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CLENVISCERATE the god of fat loss

MAxximal said:
so meltdown is coming buds!!!!
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Meaning Atomic Meltdown by RPN?

Thought this was more of a tanning solution....and I'm guessing we can add clen to this as well?

How about...avant napalm, add some capsaicin cream/powder or cayenne powder and then the liquid clen... :think:
 
bulldogz said:
Yeah no more eviscerate...I beleive I read one of dsade's earlier post in this thread where he stated no future eta for the raws from his supplier or something to that effect...
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There are no more raws coming. Not sure how many bottles are left to be shipped, as I haven't inventoried. Definitely under 150 for ALL customers.
 
dsade said:
There are no more raws coming. Not sure how many bottles are left to be shipped, as I haven't inventoried. Definitely under 150 for ALL customers.
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I need the inside scoop as to when it will be at the planet to pick up atleast 4-5 bottles myself...hook a brotha up! :D
 
bulldogz said:
I need the inside scoop as to when it will be at the planet to pick up atleast 4-5 bottles myself...hook a brotha up! :D
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They pulled the last stock due to a problem with the thickener. The replacements should have arrived already and be back up for sale shortly.
 
bulldogz said:
Meaning Atomic Meltdown by RPN?

Thought this was more of a tanning solution....and I'm guessing we can add clen to this as well?

How about...avant napalm, add some capsaicin cream/powder or cayenne powder and then the liquid clen... :think:
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yeas man
 
when i apply my clenviscerate in the afternoon it doesn't burn nearly as much as when I apply it in the morning right after my shower .. it heats up pretty effin hot when i start to workout and sweat, but doesn't give me that initial heat and burn as it does after my shower .. is this still giving me the same effects.. still allowing the clen to pass transdermally??

If not, should I always apply this after a shower.. bascially take a shower in the afternoon just to apply the clenviscerate?? haha doesn't sound practical but i down to do it if necessary...

thanks
 
How does Animal Cuts compare to the systemic fat loss products already listed (DCP, Leviathon, etc) in conjunction with clenviscerate?
 
Whats something good to drop from 265 to 235 by may 28th? lookin for something with minimal liver damage, this clen seems pretty hurtful and toxic
 
creates408 said:
Whats something good to drop from 265 to 235 by may 28th? lookin for something with minimal liver damage, this clen seems pretty hurtful and toxic
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OEP, DCP, Alpha Burn, Recreate. These seem to be some of the best. I would say DCP, OEP and either Recreate or Alpha Burn all stacked together.
 
creates408 said:
Whats something good to drop from 265 to 235 by may 28th? lookin for something with minimal liver damage, this clen seems pretty hurtful and toxic
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Diet and exercise bro. Diet is > 60% of the battle. If you don't have that in check first, nothing will consistently keep weight off.

Water weight will come off easy, but each lb of fat requires a caloric deficit of 3500 calories. Most shoot for 500 cal deficit a day to lose a lb of fat a week through combination of cardio and less food.

To quote Mad TV, Eat Less, Move More...
 
creates408 said:
Whats something good to drop from 265 to 235 by may 28th? lookin for something with minimal liver damage, this clen seems pretty hurtful and toxic
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Try ECA. This is more helpful for when you are at a lower BF% and are trying to get your abs to show. 2 months on ECA will do wonders for you.
 
CJSalcedo said:
Try ECA. This is more helpful for when you are at a lower BF% and are trying to get your abs to show. 2 months on ECA will do wonders for you.
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2 months on ECA will also burn out his receptors. IF you do run it for 2 months....you need to taper up and off of it.
 
creates408 said:
Whats something good to drop from 265 to 235 by may 28th? lookin for something with minimal liver damage, this clen seems pretty hurtful and toxic
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clen has pretty minimal liver damage. Its the shakes and jitters and cramps that suck.

I've actually been experimenting some with low dose t3 taken with high iodine supplementation (12.5mg/day) through Iodoral. Its amazing how much difference it makes at least feel wise in the effectiveness of the t3.
 
TheDarkHalf said:
2 months on ECA will also burn out his receptors. IF you do run it for 2 months....you need to taper up and off of it.
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The ECA Stack NOT burn receptors like Clen do both works in different pathways maybe with the time has adrenal fatigue due the caffeine abuse not more.
 
MAxximal said:
The ECA Stack NOT burn receptors like Clen do both works in different pathways maybe with the time has adrenal fatigue due the caffeine abuse not more.
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That's incorrect. Ephedrine works on the same beta-2 receptors that Clen works on. This is widely known.
 
Eph works on the the all beta receptors via CNS but not "melt" the receptors

Ephedrine is called a non-specific adrenergic agonist because through the release of NA, it has an effect on more than one class of adrenergic receptor. NA can bind with alpha and beta receptors alike. This produces a generalized effect because alpha receptors, particularly alpha-2 receptors, decrease lipolysis and beta receptors increase lipolysis. The overall lipolytic effect of ephedrine is determined by the ratio of alpha and beta receptors on each particular adipocyte.
Another disadvantage is potency. Non-specific agonists have a far weaker effect on beta-receptors than specific beta agonists such as epinephrine, Albuterol or Clenbuterol
 
Rodja said:
True. It doesn't tax them to the same extent as clen, but it still affects them.
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Yep!

MAxximal said:
Eph works on the the all beta receptors via CNS but not "melt" the receptors

Ephedrine is called a non-specific adrenergic agonist because through the release of NA, it has an effect on more than one class of adrenergic receptor. NA can bind with alpha and beta receptors alike. This produces a generalized effect because alpha receptors, particularly alpha-2 receptors, decrease lipolysis and beta receptors increase lipolysis. The overall lipolytic effect of ephedrine is determined by the ratio of alpha and beta receptors on each particular adipocyte.
Another disadvantage is potency. Non-specific agonists have a far weaker effect on beta-receptors than specific beta agonists such as epinephrine, Albuterol or Clenbuterol
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True. But it still affects them.
 
I am coming up on the end of my two weeks "on". I am using clen viscerate only for localized purposes and do not want to encorporate any kind of systemic thermo (I do use Reduce XT and ALCAR). Should I continue to use the Evis through my "off" period or just stop, saving the Evis only for when I mix it with the clen. Just run the reduce XT & ALcar as normal and then up my cardio a little bit and decrease my cals a few to compensate??? what have you guys used in the off periods?
 
acwingfoot said:
I am coming up on the end of my two weeks "on". I am using clen viscerate only for localized purposes and do not want to encorporate any kind of systemic thermo (I do use Reduce XT and ALCAR). Should I continue to use the Evis through my "off" period or just stop, saving the Evis only for when I mix it with the clen. Just run the reduce XT & ALcar as normal and then up my cardio a little bit and decrease my cals a few to compensate??? what have you guys used in the off periods?
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I'd keep using E, during your "off" period.
 
Would it be alright to use Clen + Sustain Alpha instead of Evis? Thinking of doing Clenvis on WO days and Alphaclen on cardio days so that I can keep my cardio sessions long due to no burn.
 
T50 said:
Would it be alright to use Clen + Sustain Alpha instead of Evis? Thinking of doing Clenvis on WO days and Alphaclen on cardio days so that I can keep my cardio sessions long due to no burn.
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Sustain Alpha is systemic, not local like Evis, so adding clen would give you all the good and bad effects of oral clen. If you're going to do that, it'd be easier to just drink the stuff.
 
I've read this whole thing, but have a question: What's the difference between applying clenviscerate once a day as opposed to twice? If clen itself has a half life of 36hrs, wouldn't one application of ~80mcg (for abs) plus 2-3ml of eviscerate each morning be as effective as two applications of ~40mcg and 1-1.5ml of eviscerate twice a day?
 
vadox6466 said:
I've read this whole thing, but have a question: What's the difference between applying clenviscerate once a day as opposed to twice? If clen itself has a half life of 36hrs, wouldn't one application of ~80mcg (for abs) plus 2-3ml of eviscerate each morning be as effective as two applications of ~40mcg and 1-1.5ml of eviscerate twice a day?
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it is to minimize side effects. There is more of a chance of getting systemic side effects if you dose all at once.
 
Mikey851 said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it is to minimize side effects. There is more of a chance of getting systemic side effects if you dose all at once.
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Hmm, interesting.. but at the same time, 80-100mcg of clen topically isn't that much, so I wouldn't expect to get sides anyway.

Although I do remember reading that reasoning!
 
vadox6466 said:
Hmm, interesting.. but at the same time, 80-100mcg of clen topically isn't that much, so I wouldn't expect to get sides anyway.

Although I do remember reading that reasoning!
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I've dosed higher, with minimal sides. The only "sides" I experienced was mega irritation on my skin. I developed a rash on both arms.
 
what kind of waist loss can you expect with a 500 calorie-1000 deficient compared to normal also can i run ephedrine with this?(also using ketofen)
 
vadox6466 said:
Did you notice increased effectiveness with the higher dosage?
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Minimal if any. Personally, I think I over saturated the receptors. Maybe not as effective as you would think. This time around I'm dosing just 40mcg twice daily 2on/2off.

I started using this combo again last week. I haven't used it in a few months. I'm noticing at 80mcg my skin starts to get really itchy. tiny pockets of hives. I think its more heat related. I am wondering if my skin is growing annoyed by the clen of the combo.
 
So I got my clenviscerate ingredients in the mail and on the way. I am currently taking d4 thermal shock in an attempt to catalyze fat loss. Should I stop taking these? They are yohimbe based iirc, do they work on the same receptors as an eca?

I'm going to try and keep a detailed log of my food/water ingestion, along with workouts (I do mainly cardio as a kickboxer), and measurements because I haven't seen anyone else doing it and the OP asked like last year lol
 
So you can add the clen to a bottle of atomic meltdown? Has anyone tried this, and if so how much did you add?
 
ToughX said:
Can someone exactly explain wut this is and how it works and what site is legit that has it thanks
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Whether you like it or not, actually reading this thread will answer your questions.


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scott72 said:
So you can add the clen to a bottle of atomic meltdown? Has anyone tried this, and if so how much did you add?
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i wouldnt do that -- it makes it impossible to alter the dosage. instead, get a 1ml pipette and measure out the clen each time
 
vadox6466 said:
i wouldnt do that -- it makes it impossible to alter the dosage. instead, get a 1ml pipette and measure out the clen each time
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Agreed. Atomic Meltdown is also much thicker than most of the Eviscerate batches.
 
vadox6466 said:
i wouldnt do that -- it makes it impossible to alter the dosage. instead, get a 1ml pipette and measure out the clen each time
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How much clen would one add to the meltdown? Would you add the same amount you'd take orally? Say 75-100 mcg's or so?
 
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