Chocolatemilk hangs low with hCG; and builds high with SD/Epi (Pic Log)

Oh **** son one of my favorite subjects has just cropped up

I love weed. I smoke almost everyday, very light these days though as I dont have the $$ to smoke a lot. Last year though, had a little grow operation going on, so i was a high-roller smoking fat everyday, often twice a day. Never saw any drawbacks.

Let's face it one of the hardest problems bodybuilders face is eating enough calories, when bulking i often have a difficult time getting them down... Weed changes that completely and turns my stomach into a bottomless pit. The only problem is having the willpower to eat the RIGHT food when you get the munchies. For me that's no problem... if you are serious enough to cycle you should have the willpower to handle that.

Usually I smoke before my last meal of the day, cottage cheese with 1 scoop protein powder and a handful of peanuts. That's my daily dessert, it tastes awesome normally and when i'm high it just tastes like heaven. Then I do my high, late night posting and get to sleep... I never have problems sleeping but for anyone who does, weed helps you fall asleep too.

damage to lungs: negligible... use a bong or a vape if concerned
increased estrogen/ lower testosterone: haven't noticed this, my training has never seemed to take a hit (lol) from my use
any other drawbacks --- nope.


Let's recap, as a bodybuilder you need a lot of calories and sleep and weed helps with both those things. It also helps you relax, gets rid of stress, completely takes the edge off. Unless you're a n00b and you get high in an uncomfortable spot and get paranoid... don't be a n00b.

Realistically the only downside is controlling your munchies, it's a powerful tool so you have to wield it properly. That and the fact that it isn't really compatible with some things like going to WORK.

Anyway, I love weed. Bulking supplement of the year. Smoke up life is short.
 
CALL IT A BAD BROMANCE

uh oh chocolatemilk your log is officially homo, off topic and fukked. Get some gains going so we can get back on track!
 
UnrealMachine said:
Oh **** son one of my favorite subjects has just cropped up

I love weed. I smoke almost everyday, very light these days though as I dont have the $$ to smoke a lot. Last year though, had a little grow operation going on, so i was a high-roller smoking fat everyday, often twice a day. Never saw any drawbacks.

Let's face it one of the hardest problems bodybuilders face is eating enough calories, when bulking i often have a difficult time getting them down... Weed changes that completely and turns my stomach into a bottomless pit. The only problem is having the willpower to eat the RIGHT food when you get the munchies. For me that's no problem... if you are serious enough to cycle you should have the willpower to handle that.

Usually I smoke before my last meal of the day, cottage cheese with 1 scoop protein powder and a handful of peanuts. That's my daily dessert, it tastes awesome normally and when i'm high it just tastes like heaven. Then I do my high, late night posting and get to sleep... I never have problems sleeping but for anyone who does, weed helps you fall asleep too.

damage to lungs: negligible... use a bong or a vape if concerned
increased estrogen/ lower testosterone: haven't noticed this, my training has never seemed to take a hit (lol) from my use
any other drawbacks --- nope.


Let's recap, as a bodybuilder you need a lot of calories and sleep and weed helps with both those things. It also helps you relax, gets rid of stress, completely takes the edge off. Unless you're a n00b and you get high in an uncomfortable spot and get paranoid... don't be a n00b.

Realistically the only downside is controlling your munchies, it's a powerful tool so you have to wield it properly. That and the fact that it isn't really compatible with some things like going to WORK.

Anyway, I love weed. Bulking supplement of the year. Smoke up life is short.
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F yeah Unreal.. I'm with you 100% on this.. I love me some weed. I always like to smoke mine at nighttime too, after i've accomplished everything that needs to be done. Get high and unwind. It's great, and it helps me sleep great as well.

About that cottage cheese, protein powder, and peanuts, do you blend that up, or you just talking about mixing it all together in a bowl?
 
BarbellBeast said:
F yeah Unreal.. I'm with you 100% on this.. I love me some weed. I always like to smoke mine at nighttime too, after i've accomplished everything that needs to be done. Get high and unwind. It's great, and it helps me sleep great as well.

About that cottage cheese, protein powder, and peanuts, do you blend that up, or you just talking about mixing it all together in a bowl?
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Probably depends on what texture you're looking for.
 
UnrealMachine said:
CALL IT A BAD BROMANCE

uh oh chocolatemilk your log is officially homo, off topic and fukked. Get some gains going so we can get back on track!
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yeah work that chest out already!!!
 
UnrealMachine said:
CALL IT A BAD BROMANCE

uh oh chocolatemilk your log is officially homo, off topic and fukked. Get some gains going so we can get back on track!
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F*** my gains right now... so about the weed lol. Seriously I brought it up and really wanted input on it so I'm glad I got these responses. I've been holding off on my stash since I started the cycle and it's been a long time since I've had beautiful vaped weed mist in my lungs (5 days to be exact).

I'm so weird with it tho. I'm not a noob by any standards. I Smoked every single day for like 2 years lol, then moved away from home and became a solo toker once in a while. I do get paranoid, I don't get hungry, and it keeps me fukkin wide awake (there is no god damn way I can sleep high if my life depended on it, thoughts are coming in way too fast). Yet I love the stuff and can't live without it.

For me it works more as a cutting agent. When I go on weed smoking binges I often get cut like a drug addict looks lol. Anyways, I guess I need more discipline with it and I should cater its use to a more of a bulking agent.
 
chocolatemilk said:
F*** my gains right now... so about the weed lol. Seriously I brought it up and really wanted input on it so I'm glad I got these responses. I've been holding off on my stash since I started the cycle and it's been a long time since I've had beautiful vaped weed mist in my lungs (5 days to be exact).

I'm so weird with it tho. I'm not a noob by any standards. I Smoked every single day for like 2 years lol, then moved away from home and became a solo toker once in a while. I do get paranoid, I don't get hungry, and it keeps me fukkin wide awake (there is no god damn way I can sleep high if my life depended on it, thoughts are coming in way too fast). Yet I love the stuff and can't live without it.

For me it works more as a cutting agent. When I go on weed smoking binges I often get cut like a drug addict looks lol. Anyways, I guess I need more discipline with it and I should cater its use to a more of a bulking agent.
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the paranoia issue, is all in ur head, i used to get it. then told myself, u wouldn't be paranoid about this or that if werent high, and learned how to enjoy being high and it's great.

same with the thoughts, i used to start thinking about **** that happened earlier that day and all these weird things, just a mind game thing. gotta be able to get past that, then you can truly enjoy the effects of weed.

and that is very stange that u don't get hungry on weed, to me, everything tastes better, just drinking some type of sugarfree koolaid or something and it tastes amazing.. lol
 
UnrealMachine said:
Oh **** son one of my favorite subjects has just cropped up

I love weed. I smoke almost everyday, very light these days though as I dont have the $$ to smoke a lot. Last year though, had a little grow operation going on, so i was a high-roller smoking fat everyday, often twice a day. Never saw any drawbacks.

Let's face it one of the hardest problems bodybuilders face is eating enough calories, when bulking i often have a difficult time getting them down... Weed changes that completely and turns my stomach into a bottomless pit. The only problem is having the willpower to eat the RIGHT food when you get the munchies. For me that's no problem... if you are serious enough to cycle you should have the willpower to handle that.

Usually I smoke before my last meal of the day, cottage cheese with 1 scoop protein powder and a handful of peanuts. That's my daily dessert, it tastes awesome normally and when i'm high it just tastes like heaven. Then I do my high, late night posting and get to sleep... I never have problems sleeping but for anyone who does, weed helps you fall asleep too.

damage to lungs: negligible... use a bong or a vape if concerned
increased estrogen/ lower testosterone: haven't noticed this, my training has never seemed to take a hit (lol) from my use
any other drawbacks --- nope.


Let's recap, as a bodybuilder you need a lot of calories and sleep and weed helps with both those things. It also helps you relax, gets rid of stress, completely takes the edge off. Unless you're a n00b and you get high in an uncomfortable spot and get paranoid... don't be a n00b.

Realistically the only downside is controlling your munchies, it's a powerful tool so you have to wield it properly. That and the fact that it isn't really compatible with some things like going to WORK.

Anyway, I love weed. Bulking supplement of the year. Smoke up life is short.
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When I hypothetically smoked weed, it killed my appetite and made me wanna sleep..
 
chocolatemilk said:
F*** my gains right now... so about the weed lol. Seriously I brought it up and really wanted input on it so I'm glad I got these responses. I've been holding off on my stash since I started the cycle and it's been a long time since I've had beautiful vaped weed mist in my lungs (5 days to be exact).

I'm so weird with it tho. I'm not a noob by any standards. I Smoked every single day for like 2 years lol, then moved away from home and became a solo toker once in a while. I do get paranoid, I don't get hungry, and it keeps me fukkin wide awake (there is no god damn way I can sleep high if my life depended on it, thoughts are coming in way too fast). Yet I love the stuff and can't live without it.

For me it works more as a cutting agent. When I go on weed smoking binges I often get cut like a drug addict looks lol. Anyways, I guess I need more discipline with it and I should cater its use to a more of a bulking agent.
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gamer2be08 said:
When I hypothetically smoked weed, it killed my appetite and made me wanna sleep..
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weird guys, indicas should be heavier on the hungry/sleepy. CM's case sounds more like a powerful sativa if it prevents sleep. I don't know how it's killing your appetite though i've never even heard of that and I've talked to a lot of stoners. I also dunno where you guys live but i live in northern california and all the weed here is legit, I pack literally 1/8 of a bowl and get high off of it. Just sayin'
 
UnrealMachine said:
weird guys, indicas should be heavier on the hungry/sleepy. CM's case sounds more like a powerful sativa if it prevents sleep. I don't know how it's killing your appetite though i've never even heard of that and I've talked to a lot of stoners. I also dunno where you guys live but i live in northern california and all the weed here is legit, I pack literally 1/8 of a bowl and get high off of it. Just sayin'
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It makes me nauseous dude.. And that is what kills my appetite lol..
 
UnrealMachine said:
weird guys, indicas should be heavier on the hungry/sleepy. CM's case sounds more like a powerful sativa if it prevents sleep. I don't know how it's killing your appetite though i've never even heard of that and I've talked to a lot of stoners. I also dunno where you guys live but i live in northern california and all the weed here is legit, I pack literally 1/8 of a bowl and get high off of it. Just sayin'
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the sh*t i got right now, alls i need is one big rip, hold er in, and i'm baked outta my mind for hours. hands down the dopest dope i've ever smoked.
 
DAY 5

DAY 5

Chest, tri's, shoulders

10 mg in the morning, 10 mg in the evening

I couldn't wake up in the morning for my morning workout as I slept late last night so I just got back from the gym.

Drum roll please..............................I BENCHED 2 PLATES ON EACH SIDE MOTHA FAKKAASS!!! For 4 unassisted reps!!!! AHHHHH YEEEEEEE!!!!!!

This may not mean much to many of you. But I have never done this in my life and it has been my goal since the beginning of my life in the gym. I'm high off life right now.

Last chest day I did 205 x 5 reps failing on the 5th

Today I was doing 205 x 7 reps failing on the 7th; even got it up 8 times once

I have something to confess to you guys... This is my first legit cycle and after 5 days.. I already feel stronger, heavier, thicker, more pumped, more hyped, more mentally alert, more confident and because of this....... it is so tempting to get on cycle and get back into football.... So... unbelievably... tempting. My speed is a killer, my athleticism is amazing, but my strength and weight were never there for support... this is so unbelievably tempting for me you guys have no idea... I'm playing with fire right now.
 
chocolatemilk said:
DAY 5

Chest, tri's, shoulders

10 mg in the morning, 10 mg in the evening

I couldn't wake up in the morning for my morning workout as I slept late last night so I just got back from the gym.

Drum roll please..............................I BENCHED 2 PLATES ON EACH SIDE MOTHA FAKKAASS!!! For 4 unassisted reps!!!! AHHHHH YEEEEEEE!!!!!!

This may not mean much to many of you. But I have never done this in my life and it has been my goal since the beginning of my life in the gym. I'm high off life right now.

Last chest day I did 205 x 5 reps failing on the 5th

Today I was doing 205 x 7 reps failing on the 7th; even got it up 8 times once

I have something to confess to you guys... This is my first legit cycle and after 5 days.. I already feel stronger, heavier, thicker, more pumped, more hyped, more mentally alert, more confident and because of this....... it is so tempting to get on cycle and get back into football.... So... unbelievably... tempting. My speed is a killer, my athleticism is amazing, but my strength and weight were never there for support... this is so unbelievably tempting for me you guys have no idea... I'm playing with fire right now.
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There ya go brotha!!!! Kill it sonnnnn!!!!
 
chocolatemilk said:
Man are deadlifts THAT good? lol I've been missing out huh..



That was pretty funny gamer not gonna lie



Welcome brownchoclit! I remember you recommended me the epi-strong when I was looking for epistane for this cycle. Let's see how it works..
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nice!!! man i didnt check this thread for like 4 days and its grown 3 pages...sheesh..brb...catching up on the reading!!:sombrero:
 
Welcome to the other side bro..... Nice workout! If you recover fast enough, try to squeeze in 2 chest workouts on one week and see where that strength puts you. Its gonna be hard to come off of this, I already know!!
 
Thanks guys.

SC.. I did chest monday day 1.. it was good to go friday day 5. I hit my chest the hardest ever yesterday....... and I feel like it will be good to go on monday again not even that soar.

You know what's a weird experience on SD.. If my muscles are soar in the morning, I feel them get better by the end of they day they don't hurt as much. Usually I have to go to sleep to notice them healing by morning. This is amazing.

BTW this is the song I was listening to when I benched 225 for the first time haha at the 30 second mark I went nuts and made those weights my bitchhhh

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Sick song..
 
Makes me wanna go to the gym and rip my shirt off HAHAHA...

They'd be like what is that fat ass doin?! He is most definitely on the juice! HAHA
 
chocolatemilk said:
DAY 5

Chest, tri's, shoulders

10 mg in the morning, 10 mg in the evening

I couldn't wake up in the morning for my morning workout as I slept late last night so I just got back from the gym.

Drum roll please..............................I BENCHED 2 PLATES ON EACH SIDE MOTHA FAKKAASS!!! For 4 unassisted reps!!!! AHHHHH YEEEEEEE!!!!!!

This may not mean much to many of you. But I have never done this in my life and it has been my goal since the beginning of my life in the gym. I'm high off life right now.

Last chest day I did 205 x 5 reps failing on the 5th

Today I was doing 205 x 7 reps failing on the 7th; even got it up 8 times once

I have something to confess to you guys... This is my first legit cycle and after 5 days.. I already feel stronger, heavier, thicker, more pumped, more hyped, more mentally alert, more confident and because of this....... it is so tempting to get on cycle and get back into football.... So... unbelievably... tempting. My speed is a killer, my athleticism is amazing, but my strength and weight were never there for support... this is so unbelievably tempting for me you guys have no idea... I'm playing with fire right now.
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Way to kill it, yo....reps comin' your way!
 
I haven't reported anything on this yet but I did my second hCG injection today.

The first injection I did was a couple days ago and it was the first time I had ever injected anything in me.

I'm not gonna lie, I was shaky as I held the slin in in my hand loaded with hCG with questions flooding in my mind like how hard to push it, would it hurt if the needle moved up and down, would it hurt period, how fast to push the plunger. I shanked the son of a bit** in my stomach and pushed the plunger slowly. After I took the needle out, I immediately felt that feeling you get after an adrenaline rush when you're tired, shaky, and just have to sit down.

Today's injection was so smooth and I felt like a pro in and out... and I must admit, I was looking forward to the injection all day for some strange reason. I don't know why but it is so appealing to inject myself lol. No shaky feeling at all today.

I also like to play music while doing it lol... anyone else do this? Gets me in the mood more.

Anyways, I'm glad I started my first injections with hCG in slin pins. It's really removed a lot of my questions and boosted my confidence in myself paving the way for future real injections.... I have to try a testosterone cycle at least once in my lifetime.
 
chocolatemilk said:
I haven't reported anything on this yet but I did my second hCG injection today.

The first injection I did was a couple days ago and it was the first time I had ever injected anything in me.

I'm not gonna lie, I was shaky as I held the slin in in my hand loaded with hCG with questions flooding in my mind like how hard to push it, would it hurt if the needle moved up and down, would it hurt period, how fast to push the plunger. I shanked the son of a bit** in my stomach and pushed the plunger slowly. After I took the needle out, I immediately felt that feeling you get after an adrenaline rush when you're tired, shaky, and just have to sit down.

Today's injection was so smooth and I felt like a pro in and out... and I must admit, I was looking forward to the injection all day for some strange reason. I don't know why but it is so appealing to inject myself lol. No shaky feeling at all today.

I also like to play music while doing it lol... anyone else do this? Gets me in the mood more.

Anyways, I'm glad I started my first injections with hCG in slin pins. It's really removed a lot of my questions and boosted my confidence in myself paving the way for future real injections.... I have to try a testosterone cycle at least once in my lifetime.
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Yeah.... first time is always the hardest. good job getting through it though. I remember shaking pretty hard my first time i had to use two hands to keep it steady and sink it into my quad.
By the end of your cycle you'll feel like John Travolta in pulp fiction it'll be so natural and easy
 
GnastyMcNasty said:
Yeah.... first time is always the hardest. good job getting through it though. I remember shaking pretty hard my first time i had to use two hands to keep it steady and sink it into my quad.
By the end of your cycle you'll feel like John Travolta in pulp fiction it'll be so natural and easy
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and then some chicks gonna snort your stash!!!!!!
 
youll be playing the role of john travolta...

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Youve never seen PULP FICTION???


you happen to be anywhere near me? so i can come slap you?! what the fukk is wrong with you chocolate milk? i just lost all my respect lol
 
I was CLEARLY joking... who hasn't seen pulp fiction... it's the movie where John Travolta falls in love with a blondie in high school and he's a stud and she's a good girl and in the end Travolta's gang races against their rival schools gang and wins... psshhhh c'mon southern what do you take me for, a chump? I've seen it a hundred times.
 
Haha good times good times HTS. PS Southern before I lose the little shred of respect I have left if; there is any, I was joking lol. I really have never seen pulp fiction but heard about how good it is.
 
DAY 6

DAY 6

Weight +2 pounds.

Guys is this little weight gain normal? I was on creatine before starting SD and stopped creatine the day I started SD to save it for PCT if I wanted to use it. Could it be that I lost a little water weight due to creatine stoppage and in actuality gained more than 2 pounds? I'm confused. I look like I've gained a good 5, am stronger and more thicker already. Can you guys chime in on this?

Leg day.

Squats warm up 135x 15

275x10
275x10
275x10

These absolutely kicked my ass and winded the crap out of me. Proceeded with rest of workout.

Legs were friggin pumped today. My quads were bulging over my knee caps.

Anyways, gonna go out for the night with the GF. Let me know what you guys think about the weight gain this is worrying me a little.
 
Chocolate makin good progress sir----mmm I just cheated.....way to early its only been a day sense my last cheat but hey ive gotten so lean on the epi/11 oxo I dont think 8 cookies and some ice cream is gunna hurt.....anyways solidfy your gains with the two plates duudddee good job brother
 
chocolatemilk said:
DAY 5

Chest, tri's, shoulders

10 mg in the morning, 10 mg in the evening

I couldn't wake up in the morning for my morning workout as I slept late last night so I just got back from the gym.

Drum roll please..............................I BENCHED 2 PLATES ON EACH SIDE MOTHA FAKKAASS!!! For 4 unassisted reps!!!! AHHHHH YEEEEEEE!!!!!!

This may not mean much to many of you. But I have never done this in my life and it has been my goal since the beginning of my life in the gym. I'm high off life right now.

Last chest day I did 205 x 5 reps failing on the 5th

Today I was doing 205 x 7 reps failing on the 7th; even got it up 8 times once

I have something to confess to you guys... This is my first legit cycle and after 5 days.. I already feel stronger, heavier, thicker, more pumped, more hyped, more mentally alert, more confident and because of this....... it is so tempting to get on cycle and get back into football.... So... unbelievably... tempting. My speed is a killer, my athleticism is amazing, but my strength and weight were never there for support... this is so unbelievably tempting for me you guys have no idea... I'm playing with fire right now.
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i told you'd bench 245 by the end of this. good for you bro.

you arent playing with fire tho. you are in the fire, smoldering, but you happen to have a fire fetish like the rest of us. welcome to hell sir... the darkside.
 
ah the power of the darkside

CM don't worry about the weightgain when you can SEE what's going on. Maybe it's having a drying effect on you especially w/ getting off creatine. If you think you're looking lean and can afford a minor calorie bump that's always an option... and for right now just make sure you're drinking plenty of water because superdrol needs TONS of it.

as for benching 245... no, no... you'll be repping it, easy, haha.
 
schwellington said:
Chocolate makin good progress sir----mmm I just cheated.....way to early its only been a day sense my last cheat but hey ive gotten so lean on the epi/11 oxo I dont think 8 cookies and some ice cream is gunna hurt.....anyways solidfy your gains with the two plates duudddee good job brother
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Same bro I went to get my usual oven roasted chicken breast at subway and walked out with a damn philly steak extra cheese, mayo, oil, wtfff lol

HumpTheCook said:
i told you'd bench 245 by the end of this. good for you bro.

you arent playing with fire tho. you are in the fire, smoldering, but you happen to have a fire fetish like the rest of us. welcome to hell sir... the darkside.
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Maaa mannnnn you're back from the grave haven't seen you in here for a while. Thanks dude. I'm likin this dark side humpy not gonna lie one bit.

UnrealMachine said:
ah the power of the darkside

CM don't worry about the weightgain when you can SEE what's going on. Maybe it's having a drying effect on you especially w/ getting off creatine. If you think you're looking lean and can afford a minor calorie bump that's always an option... and for right now just make sure you're drinking plenty of water because superdrol needs TONS of it.

as for benching 245... no, no... you'll be repping it, easy, haha.
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Haha you guys get me so hyped to smash weights it's not even funny.

Unreal would you call me crazy if I did this... did one more week with the same diet and everything and see the weight gain by the end of the week (maybe this week was slow because of the creatine dilemma). If I'm still not satisfied, would it be ok to run SD for a full 4 weeks and go for a hefty clean bulk the last two weeks. I figure I'll use epi to shred the fat I gain after with mad cardio and a clean diet.

I'm looking real good as far as looks and strength... so I don't know what's up with a 2 pound increase. Let me know what you think if I did that. Cuz I really wanna see the scale go up too.






As for right now, gettin a late night vape goin. Got some nice healthy anabolic munchies next to me. TV goin. Gonna sleep like a baby tonight. After I burn out a bit lol.
 
chocolatemilk said:
Haha good times good times HTS. PS Southern before I lose the little shred of respect I have left if; there is any, I was joking lol. I really have never seen pulp fiction but heard about how good it is.
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You need to see pulp fiction.. Are you livinig in a rock bro?!
 
gamer2be08 said:
You need to see pulp fiction.. Are you livinig in a rock bro?!
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Great movie. It was cool until Ving Rhames got butt-fcked. That bothered me, LOL.
 
Aright Ariighhtt already I'll watch the god damn movie lol.

Mannnn I woke up today, both my shoulders are destroyed. My shoulder joints are in pain and my knees yesterday felt so brittle squatting. I don't think the fish oil is helping too much except by relieving inflammation. What do you guys recommend my joints are already starting to feel it I HAVE to take today off because of this maybe just get in cardio today.
 
bout those joints

im doing animal flex (msm, chondroiton, hylauronic acid, glucosamine, flax seel, bromelain)

super cissus rx

10g fish oil
 
chocolatemilk said:
Aright Ariighhtt already I'll watch the god damn movie lol.

Mannnn I woke up today, both my shoulders are destroyed. My shoulder joints are in pain and my knees yesterday felt so brittle squatting. I don't think the fish oil is helping too much except by relieving inflammation. What do you guys recommend my joints are already starting to feel it I HAVE to take today off because of this maybe just get in cardio today.
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Pulp Fiction=Greatest Movie of All Time!

And for the joints I recommend cissus(bulk if you can cap your own) at about 3g a day, MSM at 4g a day, & if you can afford it Hydrolyzed Collagen. But the first 2 should do the trick, I have bad joint problems and these help tremendously.
 
Will they work right away if I buy them or some preloading needed? I might do the animal felx, super cissus, and hydrolyzed collagen but would they work right away? The pains a killer.
 
With my experience the MSM and cissus take about 4 days to kick in, but the collagen I will start to feel it the next day if I dose it 3 or 4g the first day. If you're really desperate, I've heard of ppl drinking super concentrated black cherry juice/extract to reduce inflammation and pain but it won't build up the tissue to make them stronger the way that MSM and cissus will.
 
Hey CM, thanks for the PM. I cannot respond back as your inbox is full! BTW good luck with your cycle. I will be soon on SD. This is what I am thinking to follow as recommend by "needtogetass" in a sister forum:

weeks
1-6 1 cap beastdrol twice a day
1-6 forged liver support 1-2 caps ed
2-4 hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 cap pm
6-10 unleashed and post cycle 3 caps of each ed
6-10 sustain alpha 5 pumps every morning.

Do u see anything which should or shoudn't be there?
 
funkd0c said:
With my experience the MSM and cissus take about 4 days to kick in, but the collagen I will start to feel it the next day if I dose it 3 or 4g the first day. If you're really desperate, I've heard of ppl drinking super concentrated black cherry juice/extract to reduce inflammation and pain but it won't build up the tissue to make them stronger the way that MSM and cissus will.
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Thanks doc. Just got some MSM and glucosamine chondroitin (sh*ts pricey)... Gonna start dosing it right away. Hopefully this helps if not I will get the cissus and collagen too. I'm finishing this cycle no matter what it takes.

sameerkhan51 said:
Hey CM, thanks for the PM. I cannot respond back as your inbox is full! BTW good luck with your cycle. I will be soon on SD. This is what I am thinking to follow as recommend by "needtogetass" in a sister forum:

weeks
1-6 1 cap beastdrol twice a day
1-6 forged liver support 1-2 caps ed
2-4 hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 cap pm
6-10 unleashed and post cycle 3 caps of each ed
6-10 sustain alpha 5 pumps every morning.

Do u see anything which should or shoudn't be there?
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Np. Well if I'm reading this right, 6 weeks of SD at 20 mg a day is not recommended by anyone on here. And SD is serious stuff you need a SERM for PCT.

Do
1-4 1 cap beastdrol twice a day
1-4 fordged liver 1-2 caps ed
4-8 Nolva 20/20/20/10
4-8 post cycle
7-12 unleashed
7-12 sustain alpha

I don't know your experience with PH/DS, or your diet and stats but it might be hard to keep SD gains running SD solo. Also if it's your first time you should try 10 mg for th first week or jump on a milder PH/DS but it's your choice in the end.

Read Unreals guide to superdrol about this it's in the anabolics section right here. It will answer many questions for you. That's where I started.
 
good advice CM, you're a quick learner... its what i like about you ha

sameerkhan
six wks of SD is a bad idea. six wks at the same dose is a worse idea. six wks at the same dose with no SERM is just straight f ucking retarded. if you took even one minute to read anything on this here site about superdrol you would know better.
 
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