Chocolatemilk hangs low with hCG; and builds high with SD/Epi (Pic Log)

yes actually he can. thats one of the things that animals do when theyre marking. trying to give off their scent of masulinity, showing theyre alpha. When my dog cowers for any reason i completely ignore it cuz its an unwanted trait. so anything that goes unacknowledged doesnt get repeated as often

agreed. im pretty sure my pit takes an interest cause he's debating a 12wk test / dbol cycle. he's got his diet in check so i've left up to him, whatever he decides.
 
yes actually he can. thats one of the things that animals do when theyre marking. trying to give off their scent of masulinity, showing theyre alpha. When my dog cowers for any reason i completely ignore it cuz its an unwanted trait. so anything that goes unacknowledged doesnt get repeated as often

i got him when he was 4-5 months old. his sister was adopted earlier. he was kept from all the other dogs because they thought he had parvo and distemper. they gave him to me for free because all the medical treatment he'd need. but he pulled through and he's healthy and f ucking huge. he's skiddish when new ppl approach him though....i think it just goes back to how he was treated by the original owners and the seclusion at the humane society. smartest dog ive ever known though.

sorry for the hijack Chocolate!!
 
agreed. im pretty sure my pit takes an interest cause he's debating a 12wk test / dbol cycle. he's got his diet in check so i've left up to him, whatever he decides.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. pits dont need juice, they have the genetics to be muscle freaks already
 
agreed. im pretty sure my pit takes an interest cause he's debating a 12wk test / dbol cycle. he's got his diet in check so i've left up to him, whatever he decides.

:stooges::stooges:
 
That's sick haha.. They probably could smell the test for sure and the super physiological amount tripps them out. I don't have a dog personally but my girlfriend does and I see that dog everyday, hope he doesn't trip out or anything. I would think only test would do that not SD or any of the other DS.
 
well my log is very diverse... its like a self-help log haha.

LOOOOOL that's funny

i got him when he was 4-5 months old. his sister was adopted earlier. he was kept from all the other dogs because they thought he had parvo and distemper. they gave him to me for free because all the medical treatment he'd need. but he pulled through and he's healthy and f ucking huge. he's skiddish when new ppl approach him though....i think it just goes back to how he was treated by the original owners and the seclusion at the humane society. smartest dog ive ever known though.

sorry for the hijack Chocolate!!

Np I enjoy the convo... my buddy brought back a german shepherd from the humane society and it was unusually small, but fully grown. For 3 months the dog would only move in circles like it was in an invisible cage still. After that it is scared sh*tless of people and just looks like a sad dog. This dog is straight up depressed. SHe just hides behind a chair all day rarely comes out. We've just accepted that as her character now but man when you abuse dogs they get fu**ed up mentally straight up
 
man this thread blew up with talk about dogs! I got a great mix, pitbull/rottweiler, he's such a sweety. Looks like a pit but with the colors of a rottweiler and a massive freaking head. And u guys are right those dogs have such freaky genetics, he eats a ton of food but stays lean and muscular, got veins down his legs haha... i've heard stories of putting your dog on deca and always wondered about trying this on him :P
 
why didnt you link me bro, im subbed!

Haven't officially started yet! welcome to the show gamer

man this thread blew up with talk about dogs! I got a great mix, pitbull/rottweiler, he's such a sweety. Looks like a pit but with the colors of a rottweiler and a massive freaking head. And u guys are right those dogs have such freaky genetics, he eats a ton of food but stays lean and muscular, got veins down his legs haha... i've heard stories of putting your dog on deca and always wondered about trying this on him :P

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ive seen that dog before. its actually not from aas lol its a genetic disorder i feel bad for that dog its limbs are gonna be f**ked
 
Chocolatemilk, how big is your safe? I need to do the same.

And speaking of dogs I have a 6 month old chocolate lab. He is 92lbs right now, pretty lean and vascular. The vets say he's going to be a huge dog, his paws are pretty damn big too. About the size of a computer mouse.
 
Super duper!!! Another super log...I love these. And epi...I love that.

Damn nutz didn't even see you in here my bad :box: .. welcome!

Chocolatemilk, how big is your safe? I need to do the same.

And speaking of dogs I have a 6 month old chocolate lab. He is 92lbs right now, pretty lean and vascular. The vets say he's going to be a huge dog, his paws are pretty damn big too. About the size of a computer mouse.

I honestly went to walmart to buy those colored little kid ones with the small key lol, then I thought I'm gonna use it A LOT so I invested in this one it was $30. It's actually a money box haha but I took the sh*t outta there and made it my own little safe. Fireproof too :)
 
Just for the record, I've had shoulder pains every morning for the past few months and have even posted in here about it. Only in the morning. I thought this would hurt my morning workout BUT I started preloading 10 caps of fish oil a day... difference between day and night. Shoulder is good to go for sure. I think it might have been bad inflammation.

High doses of fish oil..... cure all for be all. I've also heard high doses will thin your blood a little making it ideal for the rise in BP while on cycle. Not to mention it will help with the cholesterol problems of steroids. And keep your hair nice and healthy.

If I could only take only one support supp it would be high dosed fish oil for sure.
 
YES, got my hCG. Looks like I'll start it week one.

Nos if you could chime in on this (or anyone who knows) I got the 1/2cc pins you said you used. You also said you used 2 ml of bac water instead of the usual 5. If I mix 2 ml of bac water in 2000iu, how much do I load in the pin for 250iu?

EDIT: worked out the math lol, .25ml is what I need to draw. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 
YES, got my hCG. Looks like I'll start it week one.

Nos if you could chime in on this (or anyone who knows) I got the 1/2cc pins you said you used. You also said you used 2 ml of bac water instead of the usual 5. If I mix 2 ml of bac water in 2000iu, how much do I load in the pin for 250iu?

EDIT: worked out the math lol, .25ml is what I need to draw. Correct me if I'm wrong.

.25ml (250iu) x 8 = 2ml (2000iu)

u did the math right
 
ya bring it to the 25 marker, i got 1/2 cc slins as well but i mixed a little differently than you
 
subbed - sweet safe CM, lol. Luckily I'm living with my wife, who fully supports all my bad habits :sasmokin: So thats what the 2nd fridge in my house looks like, lol. I like the cycle you are running too. I bet you make some lean gains with it.

I might run something similar in oct/nov. After my last cycle, I been holding steady on the scales but recomping for sure since i'm losing inches around my waist and adding them to my shoulders, lats, biceps. As long as that keeps happeneing I'll rock all natural.
 
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.25ml (250iu) x 8 = 2ml (2000iu)

u did the math right

Damnnn we got an Albert Edison over here...

ya bring it to the 25 marker, i got 1/2 cc slins as well but i mixed a little differently than you

Thanks geek, got it.

Yo! Subbed!

Welcome X!

I had to read this sentence several times... I was like, "Did he just say that he bought a little colored kid?"

Subbed for the ride.

:biglaugh:

Whats up brah. Thanks for helping me put the cycle together. PS it was my INTENTION to buy those kiddy ones but I walked out with a fkn james bond a$$ safe haha.
 
subbed - sweet safe CM, lol. Luckily I'm living with my wife, who fully supports all my bad habits :sasmokin: So thats what the 2nd fridge in my house looks like, lol. I like the cycle you are running too. I bet you make some lean gains with it.

I might run something similar in oct/nov. After my last cycle, I been holding steady on the scales but recomping for sure since i'm losing inches around my waist and adding them to my shoulders, lats, biceps. As long as that keeps happeneing I'll rock all natural.

Chemmm mannnnn where have you been all my life! welcome :box: .. you're lucky your wife is understanding. I'm about be hiding my shrunken balls from my gf with the hCG hopefully ...and as far as she knows.. my amazing gains are coming from creatine haha.

After you see my results you're gonna be itchin to run a similar cycle in oct/nov :veryhappy: theres only so much you can build el natural but it's good to hear your recomp is making great progress brotha.
 
you said monday is ur first day right?

And about the high dosed fish oil- I couldnt agree more the **** is so good for our bodies
 
What clone of super are you using?

I'm running Beastdrol. I heard great things about it. I know its a bit pricey but I want everything to be top notch for this.

you said monday is ur first day right?

And about the high dosed fish oil- I couldnt agree more the **** is so good for our bodies

Tomorrow is the day ma man. I'm gonna eat anything and everything that comes my way today as a final meal before I head into war tomorrow :grumpy:

Fish oil is ridiculous. OH BTW, GET THE ONES WITH "NO FISHY AFTERTASTE" IF YOU'RE GONNA HIGH DOSE IT. I learned the hard way when I had the fkn pacific ocean swimming in my stomach.. nasty dude.

subbed bruh... Hope it treats you well!

Thanks doctor of funk :veryhappy:
 
the term is enteric coated. this means no fast rupture in your stomach, causing those oh so hated fish burps... man... youre gonna start feeling like the man in a couple of days dude, i didnt know I would start seeing a difference so fast but no im sitting here feeling my biceps and forearms pokin my chest at walmart lookin like a douche bag..... im not running hcg but we're both running sd/epi bridges.. best of luck to ya man I know you'll make the best of that drol.
 
Chemmm mannnnn where have you been all my life! welcome :box: .. you're lucky your wife is understanding. I'm about be hiding my shrunken balls from my gf with the hCG hopefully ...and as far as she knows.. my amazing gains are coming from creatine haha.

After you see my results you're gonna be itchin to run a similar cycle in oct/nov :veryhappy: theres only so much you can build el natural but it's good to hear your recomp is making great progress brotha.

you know what ive learnt in the past with chicks (im talking about real people not strippers before anyone makes the joke)... if you bring steroids like its no big deal and like it never even crossed your mind that it would be a problem then they dont seem to be as upset about it... cause chances are they are completely uneducated... just treat it like it was... i dunno... chocolate milk.

"i just finished my workout i gotta drink a chocolate milk"
or
"i just finished my workout i gotta take my superdrol"
 
you know what ive learnt in the past with chicks (im talking about real people not strippers before anyone makes the joke)... if you bring steroids like its no big deal and like it never even crossed your mind that it would be a problem then they dont seem to be as upset about it... cause chances are they are completely uneducated... just treat it like it was... i dunno... chocolate milk.

"i just finished my workout i gotta drink a chocolate milk"
or
"i just finished my workout i gotta take my superdrol"

Ummm..yeah..."I just finished my workout, I gotta drink a chocolate milk" sounds MUCH better. LOL!!!
 
Ummm..yeah..."I just finished my workout, I gotta drink a chocolate milk" sounds MUCH better. LOL!!!

LOL

you know what ive learnt in the past with chicks (im talking about real people not strippers before anyone makes the joke)... if you bring steroids like its no big deal and like it never even crossed your mind that it would be a problem then they dont seem to be as upset about it... cause chances are they are completely uneducated... just treat it like it was... i dunno... chocolate milk.

"i just finished my workout i gotta drink a chocolate milk"
or
"i just finished my workout i gotta take my superdrol"

I know exactly what you mean. The problem is she is with mainstream media when it comes to these things. Her knowledge of steroids comes from the news (god help me) and maybe one documentary (which as you guys know never present the good side of the stuff) lol.

Her mind set about steroids is just like 90% of the worlds mind set, the word steroid comes up, and they automatically think aggression, balding, acne, small balls and lots of other sh*T.

Trying to talk to these brainwashed people about the good side, or safe side of these compounds wont get you very far. It's like arguing with a wall bro.

There might come a day where I will sit her down and explain this all to her. But I don't live with her now and can hide my use pretty easily so I will take this route for now. I understand what you're saying bro and might consider it someday.

ps "im talking about real people not strippers before anyone makes jokes" HAHA you had me laughing out loud on that
 
the term is enteric coated. this means no fast rupture in your stomach, causing those oh so hated fish burps... man... youre gonna start feeling like the man in a couple of days dude, i didnt know I would start seeing a difference so fast but no im sitting here feeling my biceps and forearms pokin my chest at walmart lookin like a douche bag..... im not running hcg but we're both running sd/epi bridges.. best of luck to ya man I know you'll make the best of that drol.

MANNN you're getting me hyped southern.. I cant wait for tomorrow it's like fkn christmas time for me brah! I hope I feel no sides and straight euphoria like you do bro. I was itchin to start this reading your log and how good it was treating you.
 
rent the documentary

Bigger. Stronger. Faster.

its a great documentary about steroids... and how the media has it all wrong. its not some pro-steroid meathead movie either, its legit but looks at everything unbias. it will be a tool for you.
 
Im usually more of a "I just finished my workout, time to bust a nut kinda guy"...

Something about deadlifts just make me want to have sex... Dips too
 
Holy sh*t bro I was just reading another guys log and he just said his fiancé found his AM password and found out about his use, kicked him outta the house, and his wedding is off.................. now I'm scared lol. This is a sign bro.... my log is over I'm not doing this ****


























.....NOTTTTTT (Borat)

seriously tho thats how it would go down for me too.

I've seen that documentary! you're right I forgot about that one.
 
my ex found out when she walked in the bathroom of our hotel room in mexico and i was bent over and twisted around sticking a needle in my ass haha. i had sworn to her i was hadnt been on in like a year... i hadnt come off for even a day lol... i tried to explain that all things considered, of all the things i could have been sticking in my ass, this wasnt that bad haha.
 
my ex found out when she walked in the bathroom of our hotel room in mexico and i was bent over and twisted around sticking a needle in my ass haha. i had sworn to her i was hadnt been on in like a year... i hadnt come off for even a day lol... i tried to explain that all things considered, of all the things i could have been sticking in my ass, this wasnt that bad haha.

Oh, I'm sure THAT went over well....
 
Holy sh*t bro I was just reading another guys log and he just said his fiancé found his AM password and found out about his use, kicked him outta the house, and his wedding is off.................. now I'm scared lol. This is a sign bro.... my log is over I'm not doing this ****





















.....NOTTTTTT (Borat)

seriously tho thats how it would go down for me too.

I've seen that documentary! you're right I forgot about that one.





marriage or feeling like god at the gym.... you decide ;)


oh and im glad i got you hyped man... i think that just makes this so much better. you know when youre angry about something or dead set on doin it big at the gym you hit some pretty wicked numbers?? Its like that on everything you touch..

as far as sides, i did not have any but last night i did not sleep well (dont know if it was the super) and i slept for about 5 hours (i normally sleep a solid 8) and hit my chest. weak sauce this morning and now im feeling tired lol. might take a nap after work haha
 
LOL



I know exactly what you mean. The problem is she is with mainstream media when it comes to these things. Her knowledge of steroids comes from the news (god help me) and maybe one documentary (which as you guys know never present the good side of the stuff) lol.

Her mind set about steroids is just like 90% of the worlds mind set, the word steroid comes up, and they automatically think aggression, balding, acne, small balls and lots of other sh*T.

Trying to talk to these brainwashed people about the good side, or safe side of these compounds wont get you very far. It's like arguing with a wall bro.

There might come a day where I will sit her down and explain this all to her. But I don't live with her now and can hide my use pretty easily so I will take this route for now. I understand what you're saying bro and might consider it someday.

ps "im talking about real people not strippers before anyone makes jokes" HAHA you had me laughing out loud on that

Bro, I told my GF im runnin a cycle in the fall and she was like, as long as you know what your doing its cool. lol:bigok:
 
I told my GF I was gathering info to run a cycle and she stared at me for a minute, but said, "OK...it's your body." Of course, I didn't give a FCUK what she said...I'm gonna do it anyway. She can't put me out because the lease is in both of our names. Then again, I wouldn't be too unhappy to leave anyway...I like my space.
 
^^ My girlfriend knows im pretty smart, so she trusts my judgement to the T.. I told her about all the sides and how you can counteract them. I told her the media doesnt know crap.. ETC
 
Bro, I told my GF im runnin a cycle in the fall and she was like, as long as you know what your doing its cool. lol:bigok:

hell yeah! thats how mine is. she says as long as im safe lol.. she gets my bottles of supps out in the morning, if im running behind she gets my doses ready, etc. She loves the look on my face when im hitting some heavy sh1t and loves the looks i get at the gym. she wants to be happy and safe, but knows i wanna kill it at the gym and that makes her happy too.

i think if your woman can't support you in your educated decision, then either its time to sit down and explain it thoroughly what it is you're doing, or tell her she can deal with it and let whatever happens happen. In the end, everyone is responsible for their own bodies it's one thing to be concerned but I'll be damned if I let someone run me LMAO
 
now with that said go kill it chocolate milk!!! what body part are you starting with today?
 
my ex found out when she walked in the bathroom of our hotel room in mexico and i was bent over and twisted around sticking a needle in my ass haha. i had sworn to her i was hadnt been on in like a year... i hadnt come off for even a day lol... i tried to explain that all things considered, of all the things i could have been sticking in my ass, this wasnt that bad haha.

LOOOL you fkn kill me bro

Bro, I told my GF im runnin a cycle in the fall and she was like, as long as you know what your doing its cool. lol:bigok:

You're lucky man. I wish my gf was as easy going.

I told my GF I was gathering info to run a cycle and she stared at me for a minute, but said, "OK...it's your body." Of course, I didn't give a FCUK what she said...I'm gonna do it anyway. She can't put me out because the lease is in both of our names. Then again, I wouldn't be too unhappy to leave anyway...I like my space.

Haha I like your attitude. I actually care about this one to let her go tho so I would care if she left not gonna lie.

think if your woman can't support you in your educated decision, then either its time to sit down and explain it thoroughly what it is you're doing, or tell her she can deal with it and let whatever happens happen. In the end, everyone is responsible for their own bodies it's one thing to be concerned but I'll be damned if I let someone run me LMAO

I know what you're saying. I wouldn't let her run me. If I had to choose between her or roids, I would choose her. Some may see that as me giving her control over my body but in reality it's just ME choosing her over roids.

now with that said go kill it chocolate milk!!! what body part are you starting with today?

I did chest this morning. Tri's and shoulders later this evening. I will give a full days update everyday after the evening workout so it's all together.

Woah man this completely slipped passed me. Subb'd and back reading to catch up.

Haha welcome HTS. You'll find the discussion in here similar to what we were talking about. Glad to have you along!
 
Figure Ill add in to the conversation on significant others, since I was talking about it with Chocolate in PM.

My girlfriend knows everything and is perfectly fine with it as long as I assure her I am being safe. (Even though she is one of those people that thinks that steroids will turn you into Jay Cutler - so I get the "I dont want you to be that big" comments often). She knows I am currently planning out my introductory cycle: Turinabol-LV/AndroHard, and when I received my Clenbuterol, she asked me what it was, and I explained.

rent the documentary

Bigger. Stronger. Faster.

its a great documentary about steroids... and how the media has it all wrong. its not some pro-steroid meathead movie either, its legit but looks at everything unbias. it will be a tool for you.

Listen to this man. I have seen this probably 3 times. It is a great documentary (I am a doc-buff). Completely unbiased and gives a fair look at both sides of steroids. I even convinced my girlfriend she has to give it a watch, and she is actually looking forward to it, in her own words.
 
my ex found out when she walked in the bathroom of our hotel room in mexico and i was bent over and twisted around sticking a needle in my ass haha. i had sworn to her i was hadnt been on in like a year... i hadnt come off for even a day lol... i tried to explain that all things considered, of all the things i could have been sticking in my ass, this wasnt that bad haha.

And this is the reason that this thread is becoming my favorite so far this year!
 
Figure Ill add in to the conversation on significant others, since I was talking about it with Chocolate in PM.

My girlfriend knows everything and is perfectly fine with it as long as I assure her I am being safe. (Even though she is one of those people that thinks that steroids will turn you into Jay Cutler - so I get the "I dont want you to be that big" comments often). She knows I am currently planning out my introductory cycle: Turinabol-LV/AndroHard, and when I received my Clenbuterol, she asked me what it was, and I explained.



Listen to this man. I have seen this probably 3 times. It is a great documentary (I am a doc-buff). Completely unbiased and gives a fair look at both sides of steroids. I even convinced my girlfriend she has to give it a watch, and she is actually looking forward to it, in her own words.

My girls view on the whole subject is that everything that's contreversial is always (or usually) portrayed in it's extremes.. And so that leaves a lot of room for research and knowledge of what's what.
 
DAY 1

Day 1:

Took 10 mg in the morning and 10 mg in the evening.

Not much to report on the SD as it's only day 1 but I will say this about my workout...

Morning workout:
I thought waking up early and going to the gym would be something I'd need to get used to but man I had a great workout in the morning. Great energy, great stamina, great strength. It feels really good to do workouts in the morning for some reason. Maybe it's just day 1 and I'm hyped about the cycle, but I absolutely loved getting up early and working out in the morning. Did chest today.

Evening workout:
I went back in the evening to do tri's and shoulders and I'll tell you guys this, for the first few sets my tri's and shoulders felt like they had already been worked out lol. But once the blood started flowing they felt good to go. Nothing interesting today. Pumps were better than normal.

Also, I have to say this, I'm looking over some guys logs in here at AM and some of these guys are my weight and these guys are throwing around 300 pounds and up in their bench press. On top of that people are saying "nice numbers brooo" like that is normal or something. Please correct me if I'm wrong but that is freakishly strong. I questioned someone today about their 315 pound bench press and they are 180 pounds and asked for a video because I'm not a sheep that just follows. I don't want any sheep in my log either. I don't want any BS. Give me straight up criticism if you have you have something to say and be critical... We will see if I will get my video from this guy.

I'm just telling you guys this because I want you to know first off, my numbers are not too great and I'm not scared to be truthful about the numbers I put up. If you ever doubt me I have no problem proving my numbers as they are truthful. I look stronger than I really am and strength displays is not my highlight.

Everything in this log that I will say is 100% truth. So if you want an honest review of this cycle if you are contemplating running it... look no further.
 
BRO!!!

First of all chill out. Everyone trains with different intensity, using different programs and different folks are after different goals. Im breaking 300 ON CYCLE and im a big boy! In no way do I think that I am weak, but I am not "as strong" as I look. I guess you could say im relatively weak for my size. I have trouble getting past 300 on squats and deads, i have trouble CURLING more than 80 lbs on a straight bar. I ran this cycle to bring certain body parts "up to speed" with others, to help my compound lifts and increase over all strength, so that in the future, more intensity is possible..

Don't be afraid to put up numbers man this place is all about progress. We're not a bunch of losers behind a screen that are gonna be like "you cant bench 300?! youre not alpha brah!" this isnt the misc...lol

I was talking to gym addict and he can bench 400 at a buck sixty five.. or was it 80? im not sure without looking at his numbers anyway... I dont think ill ever get to that weight, but then again im not a power lifter. Different goals. different programs. different routines.. Everyone has their weak points and everyone has those days theyre just not feeling it. You wont have too many days like that on SD i promise ;)
 
bro we are bodybuilders. its all about what the mirror says. ya look good, feel good, thats what matters. dont worry bout the haters. just work your game my man.
 
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