Boladrol Log- Bulking the Poopster

UnrealMachine said:
good update poopy very detailed... i know what you mean about BP headaches and I get them from clen like that too.

The side effect profile sounds reminiscent of SD, there is lethargy, back pumps, headaches... does this compound "feel" similar to SD to you?
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Honestly I can't say at this point.....

The first reason why I have to say no, it doesn't, is cause SD makes my nips severely sore within days of dosing....

Other then that also sd gave me horrid back pumps, these have only started n not that bad do can't say they are going to be s bad as on sd..... M1t gave fairly bad back pumps as well BUT dbol didn't hurt me for jack..... So I don't think of it as an all around way to assess its positive potency, just its severity of sides....

Honestly sd kicked in fast for me but don't think it was EXACTLY the same as this in all around feeling..... but its certainly similar with the androgen aggression/irritability, seemed glycogen shuttling and quick strength/weight gains....

Lets hope its not ALL the same, would hate it if the cholesterol and liver values are getting whacked as fast. With SD, by week 4 I was just READY to come off, and all through tter first week off pct just felt like crap.... thankfully we have blood from a very reliable source coming and I have been taking supports and have a very comprehensive pct set up.... Namely toco-8 and torem (all studies on its safety profile and effectiveness show its superiority to nolva, including its ability to restore lipids AND block estrogen..... Anecdotaly, I feelt much better on it and feel the same end of week one as I do week 4 on nolva), those two alone will set my cholesterol levels right mighty fast then th daa should be able to outside that in creating some new test weigh leighton would be stimulated and upregulated by sustain alpha and endoamp....

Honestly looking forward to my pct just as much as this cycle!..... Was thinking of adding a sarm, but I don't think it would be fair in showing the maintainability of gains using a standard comprehensive pct for boladrol....
 
Sensitive nips on SD? That's really unusual, what clone did you use? I am very sensitive to estrogen and I get sensitive nips quickly whenever i'm on test but no matter how I run SD, it never messes with my nips (if anything it has the opposite effect). I am also similarly super-susceptible to prolactin-induced gyno/nip sensitivity and get nothing like this on SD.

The only times I can recall people reporting gyno on cycle with SD is when using Mdrol.
 
I only ran the og.

Both designer supplements and anabolic xtreme.

And as it may be unusual to you, its actually more common then you think and def not restricted to just one clone.... Mdrol just had a very large portion of users so a lot of feedback as well, both bad and good.

Its estrogenic effects are actually very much a mystery since sd cannot aromatize and should bit be able ti interact with the er.....

Funny thing is NO other compound cept the original poopadrol irritates my nipples and exacerbates my gyno....

M1t, dbol, anadrol, 4-ad..... Nothing else most would consider a gyno giver....

Trauma1 has suggested that possibly sd has such a high binding affinity for shbg that it can actually displace bound estrogen from the shbg causing a flood of estrogen into the body..... I wish there were clinical studies on the compound but at the same time I don't care that much as sd is so bad for you in so many ways, I much should rather have seen it disappear this lat ban instead of phera.


UnrealMachine said:
Sensitive nips on SD? That's really unusual, what clone did you use? I am very sensitive to estrogen and I get sensitive nips quickly whenever i'm on test but no matter how I run SD, it never messes with my nips (if anything it has the opposite effect). I am also similarly super-susceptible to prolactin-induced gyno/nip sensitivity and get nothing like this on SD.

The only times I can recall people reporting gyno on cycle with SD is when using Mdrol.
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That's interesting to note, I had not noticed anyone else getting the estrogen sides from SD. It baffles me but I will tuck that knowledge away, I am always amazed by the sheer range of responses people get to the same steroids.

Binding to SHBG is a possibility... I know when I ran test and then added the masteron in, I felt like I had a noticable increase in estrogen and I suddenly had to dose a lot of AI (presumably from masteron displacing test/estrogen from SHBG). But i don't get this on SD.

If it's more common than I thought then more people need to speak up on it because I actively check these forums for as much feedback on SD as i can find.

Anyway sorry about getting sidetracked there, I always ask a lot of questions when people talk about their SD experience :P.
 
Well I am very sensitive to increased estrogen on cycle, mostly with water retention and increased bp from it. So far on Boladrol it has become unbearable, so I definitely think there is some methyl estrogen conversion going on. I started an AI last night, ERASE, and as of this morning I feel fantastic, and my bp is under control. Just thought I would throw that out there, so you guys could chew on it.
 
I would also add that ERASE was an experiment to see just how effective it was as an AI and it is working beautifully thus far.
 
off topic- but isnt SD derived from Anadrol? I know it is methylated masteron (and the compounds do way different things) but am i correct? Derived from Abombs?
 
ryansm said:
Well I am very sensitive to increased estrogen on cycle, mostly with water retention and increased bp from it. So far on Boladrol it has become unbearable, so I definitely think there is some methyl estrogen conversion going on. I started an AI last night, ERASE, and as of this morning I feel fantastic, and my bp is under control. Just thought I would throw that out there, so you guys could chew on it.
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Thanks for sharing that's interesting, glad the erase has you feeling better.

I ****ing hate estrogen >< I am so prone to nip sensitivity that I can get it from high natural test during PCT.

schwellington said:
off topic- but isnt SD derived from Anadrol? I know it is methylated masteron (and the compounds do way different things) but am i correct? Derived from Abombs?
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I have read that anadrol is an intermediate in the synthesis of superdrol but i'm not 100% sure
 
Its all good! I get the same way over compounds that I love.

I've honestly seen less and less experiences with people blaming sd, for their gyno but many don't know what gave it to them at all cause they go around stacking a retarded amount of compounds as if it will make up for their lack in diet and pushing themselves in the gym....

I'm sure if you dial back the search feature to list logs of superdrol circa '05-'06 you'll see alot of instances if gyno both on cycle with sd and a delayed flare up of gyno even after pct.... Was and is really weird.
 
ryansm said:
Well I am very sensitive to increased estrogen on cycle, mostly with water retention and increased bp from it. So far on Boladrol it has become unbearable, so I definitely think there is some methyl estrogen conversion going on. I started an AI last night, ERASE, and as of this morning I feel fantastic, and my bp is under control. Just thought I would throw that out there, so you guys could chew on it.
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Good to know.... Maybe I won't drop that 6-bromo after all....

You taking one cap of erase? 2?
 
I did a lot of research on SD back in the day and the gyno I remember from SD was always delayed gyno. Delayed gyno on SD was a HUGE problem and everyone was getting it... and apparently a lot of these guys were using AI's as their PCT. As I recall, it was recommended to run "Rebound XT" as the PCT for the cycle (just like people thought novedex XT was a full PCT) and when PCT'd with an AI, delayed gyno often resulted. Presumably this is because estrogen levels are suppressed (well endogenous test is suppressed while on cycle) and then during PCT natural test builds back up but the AI keeps estrogen levels crushed... when people got off the AI, the rapid resurgence of estrogen caused delayed gyno.

This is the reason why i don't like AI's in PCT, or at least i buy into the thinking that an AI in PCT should be tapered down slowly to prevent a rebound.
 
poopypants said:
Good to know.... Maybe I won't drop that 6-bromo after all....

You taking one cap of erase? 2?
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I took 3 last night, I wanted to get the water out quickly, I will adjust the dose from now starting at 1 cap, and going up as needed.
 
UnrealMachine said:
I did a lot of research on SD back in the day and the gyno I remember from SD was always delayed gyno. Delayed gyno on SD was a HUGE problem and everyone was getting it... and apparently a lot of these guys were using AI's as their PCT. As I recall, it was recommended to run "Rebound XT" as the PCT for the cycle (just like people thought novedex XT was a full PCT) and when PCT'd with an AI, delayed gyno often resulted. Presumably this is because estrogen levels are suppressed (well endogenous test is suppressed while on cycle) and then during PCT natural test builds back up but the AI keeps estrogen levels crushed... when people got off the AI, the rapid resurgence of estrogen caused delayed gyno.

This is the reason why i don't like AI's in PCT, or at least i buy into the thinking that an AI in PCT should be tapered down slowly to prevent a rebound.
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When I didn't know jack sh*t about designers this guy at a shop was selling me Superdrol and for PCT novadex XT... Didn't end up getting it.

Holy sh*t do I feel like I dodged a bullet after what you said^ lol.
 
Yes I agree that was one reason for the delayed gyno... But I also saw fellows using s serm having issues as well...

My gyno started on cycle though. Even tried using formastane on cycle with 2 bottles of E-form.... Didn't help one bit... Used 6oxo nolva pct..... still there.... Used second bottle of nolva and atd and suddenly it disappears and my strength shot through the roof like I was on cycle again, I love how atd works for me.

It started an issue though now that has been exacerbated by a cycle or two that was aborted with an incomplete pct (financial issues struck and then some, not getting into it now) and more then anything drinking and smoking pot.... Both of wich I hope to have kicked for good now as I can't seem to do either in moderation, having a very addictive personality, my only healthy addiction is working out....

Either way this had me disliking sd, but even at one time when I had got my gyno down quite a bit with epi, torem, anastrozole and a few other complete cycles with ai's and more torem pct's I attempted to give sd another chance and within days my nips became incredibly sore (was the ax version again) and I immediately stopped running it and switched to epi instead...

After finding out all the other issues that sd can cause, health wise, across the years and finding so many other compounds that give me similar or even better gains without the sides, I have lost all interest in the compound. I honestly wish it were gone so folks will focus on bringing us something innovative instead of just offering another clone....
 
ryansm said:
I took 3 last night, I wanted to get the water out quickly, I will adjust the dose from now starting at 1 cap, and going up as needed.
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Saweeet. Cool to see erase its so damn effective, cheap and dshea compliant, so its not going any where.

I will be using out in the near future and testing its capabilities at reducing gyno as it supposedly had a higher affinity for blocking est in the chest/breast area.... should definitely be effective to a degree given how well it lowers est period.
 
poopypants said:
Saweeet. Cool to see erase its so damn effective, cheap and dshea compliant, so its not going any where.

I will be using out in the near future and testing its capabilities at reducing gyno as it supposedly had a higher affinity for blocking est in the chest/breast area.... should definitely be effective to a degree given how well it lowers est period.
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Ya I'm thinking this may be the best product for an AI, if it keeps panning out. I will need to get blood work done while on it to see just how effective it is on lowering estrogen. I liked 6-bromo on cycle as well over the rc's, but I may be using erase from now on.
 
Don't wish SD gone, it's one of the only compounds I respond well to lol. I get great gains and practically 0 sides, it works like magic everytime. Only strong steroids work on me (Superdrol, Phera0. In contrast I've cycled weaker ones like Epi, Halo, prostanozol, and I don't make any gains off those.

It's weird how we all respond so differently.

I am really excited about boladrol because being a more powerful steroid I think i'll respond well to it :). As far as I can determine I am just not susceptible to some sides like lethargy.

Estrogen and gyno is what holds me back. So if boladrol really converts to methyl estrogen then that sucks, I'll surely have sensitive nips while on it.
 
ryansm said:
Ya I'm thinking this may be the best product for an AI, if it keeps panning out. I will need to get blood work done while on it to see just how effective it is on lowering estrogen. I liked 6-bromo on cycle as well over the rc's, but I may be using erase from now on.
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It wasn't for me. I tried both erase & forma stanzol as an AI on cycle(Test,SD,PP) most of you know. I ended up having to use letro, dosing every 2 to 3 days to control the estro(started getting lumps and puffy sensitvie nips).
 
Ya I think with the addition of test in any cycle you are going to need something stronger.

So far it seems to be working, I will be getting blood work eventually on a solo run of erase just to see how well it works.
 
UnrealMachine said:
I did a lot of research on SD back in the day and the gyno I remember from SD was always delayed gyno. Delayed gyno on SD was a HUGE problem and everyone was getting it... and apparently a lot of these guys were using AI's as their PCT. As I recall, it was recommended to run "Rebound XT" as the PCT for the cycle (just like people thought novedex XT was a full PCT) and when PCT'd with an AI, delayed gyno often resulted. Presumably this is because estrogen levels are suppressed (well endogenous test is suppressed while on cycle) and then during PCT natural test builds back up but the AI keeps estrogen levels crushed... when people got off the AI, the rapid resurgence of estrogen caused delayed gyno.

This is the reason why i don't like AI's in PCT, or at least i buy into the thinking that an AI in PCT should be tapered down slowly to prevent a rebound.
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I got some nasty gyno rebounding off SD(This was nearly 5 years ago I think). I used a clone when it first came out. LOl I didn't have a computer at the time so my research was limited. I did what was advised.....They were 12mg pills... Check this out. It was a 5 week cycle like thus.

wk 1 12mg ed
wk 2 24 mg ed
wk 3 24/36mg tappering up
wk 4 36 mg ed
wk 5 24/12 tappering down

then I PCT using oxo 12 for five weeks at a usual dose(cant quite remember)

Nice.............NO!

Anyway needless to say it caused m alot of greif. To be fair my liver values wern't to bad, they were pretty normal a couple of weeks after, my bP was on the higher side of normal for a few weeks afterward. But after about 5-6 weeks of PCT I noticed a fiberous lump under my left nipple and it was very sore. SD wa the first designer I had done in a good 1.5yrs . Before that I had done 1ad and nor andro a couple of times with out any trouble.
 
Great update poops! :thumbsup:
Keep killing it!

//CC
 
HMM I may have to run this since i'm 6 weeks away from being able to do any kind of real lifting. wondering how quick this will put my muscle mass back on. Before this layoff
I was getting close to 170lbs which may not sound like alot but at my height trust me it's pretty thick in my avi i'm under 150lbs if I remember correctly. Hope this all goes well especially with the BP and the estro issues which have yet to be answered.
 
10/31/10 Halloween Observations

Lol

Yesterday was an off day as well. Nothing huge to note other then back pumps started to kick my tail after I drove around the town for an hour lookin for a cheap pumpkin spot (got 3 for .98¢ each, first place I stopped wanted 17 bucks for one!).

Finally got home had some taurine and milk (milk has plenty of potassium in it) n the pumps faded...

Also very lethargic but fought through it so I could carve pumpkins with my lil man n then we made some rice krispie treats we frosted and decorated into skulls n cats n grave stones....

All I'm all a fun day :) n a ton of simple sugars:(

Lol


Tonight hittin chest, can't wait!
 
11/01/10 Week 2 Start Progress Pic

Thought I'd post a week 2 update pic before working out tonight....

I can def see an improvement all around, especially in the delts and chest, can't wait to see what end photo will look like at this rate!

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doo doo you lookin good bro- this will shed that fat off u- i know u let loose a bit but u really dont look bad at all bro- and those arms r still massive- nice



sigh- I am loving my ghrp-6 its such a joy stabing myself with a needle 3x a day



anyways keep on keepin on- has the endo gone out? Should i look in the mail for it wens or thurs?
 
11/01/10 Workout Notes

Workout:

Tonights workout felt like it started off kinda slow, took time to feel the assistance (although I did change up the routine slightly to address some things...) but was definitely movin by midway...


Flat DB press- 10x45, 10x55, 10x70, 6x70
Dips- 10,10,10
Cable Fly(l/r)- 10x40/40, 10x50/50, 10x60/60, 7x70/70
Cable cross over press(l/r)- 10x60/60, 10x60/60, 9x60/60
Decline DB press- 10x30, 10x30(both these sets were done VERY slow), 6x30
Incline Iso press(dropset)(l/r)- 10x55/55->10x45/45->7x35/35->10x25/25 (seperate) 10x25/25
Machine fly- 70x10, 90x10, 90x10


Workout Notes:

This had me pretty friggin dead by the end of the workout... hit a stride and then ran it right into the ground with that dropset, lol.

I decided to change up my workout slightly to doing flat bench first for a couple reasons.... In the past I have always increased all around chest strength much faster doing this so hopefully I will be able to start throwing up some REALLY heavy DB's again by the end of this cycle... hoping at least 90s but may not happen... The other main reason was inspired from my pic I just posted... Ive noticed that the outer width of my pecs are growing pretty well from doing wide slow declines and inclines but the inner portion of my chest, which is typically really defined for me (see avi and post Prime pics) seems to be lacking in quick development and I'd like to have this section stand out again... so Im dedicating my first fresh lift to the flat DB press which has always brought that portion of my chest out nicely...

I will switch back over to incline again once the main mass of my pecs have been recovered to focus on developing the upper section of my pecs to where they were post prime again as well. That run is when I really started focusing on upper chest and did a good job bringing it out.... but that was only after my chest was pretty well built other places...

been contemplating changing my routine to fit chest in twice a week buuuut I'm really iffy about that and worried bout possible over training for such a direct group.....

OHOHOHOHOH.... nearly forgot....weigh in....

204.5!!!

This was a surprise to me honestly as I didnt even get in a lot of heavy foods today (prob also why workout started out slow then fizzled after short take off) but I def think it shows in the pic.... shoulda done leg shots too, but measurements will just have to do, cause Im sure a lot of trade off has been done there too. Not WAAAAY bigger but WAAAY more defined for sure and way harder, friggin feels like rocks right now!

Really gettin more and more excited as this goes along as to how far I'll be able to get by the end of this and just hope that at least if weight is lost in PCT that none is quality mass, I can care less if I drop even 5lbs, as long as its water....

We will just have to see though, I have a feeling with my PCT that it wont be much lost at all;)
 
Your arms are looking huge in that pic bro :bigeyes:
Nice gains :thumbsup:

//CC
 
Thanks brothers!!!

my arms grow faster then anything else on my body.... theyve also been 18 inches before so they have plenty of muscle fibers there just waiting to be regrown.... at times they were way too big for the rest of my body and I was always playing catch up with them... for a while I wouldnt even do a direct bi exercise cause I was worried about them getting too big, remember it was while I logging something too i believe, lol.
 
poopypants said:
Thanks brothers!!!

my arms grow faster then anything else on my body.... theyve also been 18 inches before so they have plenty of muscle fibers there just waiting to be regrown.... at times they were way too big for the rest of my body and I was always playing catch up with them... for a while I wouldnt even do a direct bi exercise cause I was worried about them getting too big, remember it was while I logging something too i believe, lol.
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I wish I had that same problem lol.:) My biceps are the slowest growing muscles on my body :(

//CC
 
All looks like things are going to plan mate. BMI has improved greatly in week 2!. This compound is looking like the real deal. Can't wait to see what it does over the next 3 weeks for you. Definate improvements in delts, bi's and chest. Belly looks a bit better too, the top of your abs are showing more.

Any shut down starting?? Are you doing any cardio, or are you going to reserve all for muscle mass?
 
ConcreteConny said:
I wish I had that same problem lol.:) My biceps are the slowest growing muscles on my body :(

//CC
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Ahh everyone is so different isn't it. For me my Bi's and traps have always grown with ease. I hardly have to work out my traps they just grow with vertually every workout I do. My arms have always looked big, because I have long bellys on the bicept. They are only just 16" at the moment, but I get told they look more becuse of the long belly on them. I lag in the chest. It takes alot of work for me to keep it up to scratch, especially in the pec minor region. Even when im benching heavy...But at the moment all is ok. Im up to 187lbs and my bench is through the roof. Im trying for over 190lbs, but trying to not go over 12%...un-assisted for now.
 
so poopy is this stuff good? if i where to run a test base do u think it would combat the lethargy?
 
I'm flexing a little to get my traps up and flexing my bi's but they aren't even at 90° so the peak isn't popping as much as it can....

woke up with back pumps this morning....
 
I dunno....

Can't really say I "feel" shutdown but I'm certain I am right now...

Something this strong is going to come with significant shutdown... m1t literally shuts you down in days
 
Whatever small level you experience should be worth it in terms of what you keep in muscular gains. Hopefully, you can imagine your discovery that you are, in fact, growing muscle by the millisecond, muscle that should be retained. Thats what people are lookin for. Hopefully, bol does that, with min. sides. Poop, did you get my pm?
 
Yes I did, waiting on a few things first, have a couple people I am waiting for responses from regarding the stipulations I listed... Logging, pictures etc I listed need to be sent to me, ask the details were in three previous post... I want to get it to a dedicated logger that will be able to accurately display the results...
 
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