Boladrol Log- Bulking the Poopster

taken from PA forum this is what he had to say about bolasterone and boladrol


bolasterone appears like it is a very strong steroid. And given the fact that it probably aromatizes to a strong estrogen it likely it give significant water retention.

superdrol (which is what mdrol is right?) is also a very strong steroid but it does not aromatize so it is drier.

two other differences. superdrol is active form and the IBE stuff is precursor. Also superdrol is recommended at around 20-40 mg a day while bolasterone (so you say ) is 2-6mg

my guess is that at equal milligram amounts this IBE stuff MIGHT be stronger than superdrol. But I am guessing based on what I read on paper and until someone tries this stuff its still not for certain
 
Interesting....

Id have to say though I wouldn't even try attempting an sd dose on this given the gains are so consistent to begin with and some sides are already being felt at 4mg as well....

I would def agree mg:mg boladrol is stronger....
 
very interesting what i just found out bolasterone lets call it the sister..lol instead of being 7alpha it is the 7beta which is being looked at for breast cancer
Calusterone
17ß-Hydroxy-7ß,17-dimethylandrost-4-en-3-one
This is identical to the fore mentioned steroid bolasterone, the only difference is the methyl-group in the 7th position is pointing ‘up’ instead of ‘down’ like in bolasterone. This slight change (don’t ask me why) actually makes calusterone useful in the treatment of advanced breast cancer.
 
hmmm maybe it changes the estrogen it aromatizes into to an estrogen that merely blocks the receptor yet does not activate it.....

Makes me wonder if this also changes its anabolic effects from the 7a version given it wouldn't offer the estrogenic weight and strength gains most aromatizing compounds offer, assuming the hypothesis above is correct....
 
this product is def stronger than methyldrostanolone. I dont think anyone can compare the two.

this is going to be a great compound.

hey poops, have you tried taking a dose and holding it under your tounge?

anyhow, the 7 beta isomer makes it a completely different steroid, with different effects, and much, much weaker, is the 17 methylation an alpha or beta? This is important as well. normally, beta isomer steroids, either bind very weakly, or not at all to the a.r.

what will make this compound different and unique from other compounds released, it the 7a di methylation, as well as it being a diol.

it will not need to convert to bind to the androgen receptor. It isn't going to bind as strongly as bolasterone, but I think it's enough.

I'm thinking 2-4mg is all you will need to see dramatic results in strength & size.

still havn't read the study henryv sent me, been bogged down with work & school.
 
poopypants said:
Thought I'd post a week 2 update pic before working out tonight....

I can def see an improvement all around, especially in the delts and chest, can't wait to see what end photo will look like at this rate!

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Nice work, Spencer. It's really great to have you back and working towards your goals again. You make primordial proud! :D

I'm interested to see what happens during week 3 myself. It's been fairly impressive thusfar at the 4mg dose.



-John
 
jbryand101b said:
this product is def stronger than methyldrostanolone. I dont think anyone can compare the two.

this is going to be a great compound.

hey poops, have you tried taking a dose and holding it under your tounge?

anyhow, the 7 beta isomer makes it a completely different steroid, with different effects, and much, much weaker, is the 17 methylation an alpha or beta? This is important as well. normally, beta isomer steroids, either bind very weakly, or not at all to the a.r.

what will make this compound different and unique from other compounds released, it the 7a di methylation, as well as it being a diol.

it will not need to convert to bind to the androgen receptor. It isn't going to bind as strongly as bolasterone, but I think it's enough.

I'm thinking 2-4mg is all you will need to see dramatic results in strength & size.

still havn't read the study henryv sent me, been bogged down with work & school.
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Every dose has been held for a few minutes in the buccal cavity in my mouth then swallowed....

Directly under the tounge burns like f'ing crazy cause of the solvent used...

And it's 17a methylated
 
Trauma1 said:
Nice work, Spencer. It's really great to have you back and working towards your goals again. You make primordial proud! :D

I'm interested to see what happens during week 3 myself. It's been fairly impressive thusfar at the 4mg dose.



-John
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Thanks brother. Glad to be back and I'm the one who's proud to be on board with Primordial P.!!!

Ya the 4mg dose is def been effective thus far, can't wait to see what the subsequent weeks hold myself!
 
Mr.50 said:
Hey what is the latest info on when this may be available to the public?

Mr.50
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Personally I couldn't say but I remember the original time frame was supposed to be 2-3 weeks away from the initial announcement.... Can't remember if it was ibe or geonomyx and dcp that was having capping/bottling issues...

Maybe ask the question in the initial thread our pm ibe or phf....
 
So far Boladrol is more impressive than SD for me. I will be updating my log tomorrow. The last couple of days I am hitting a pound a day on the scale.
 
11/02/10 Workout Notes

Workout:

Tonight I had a really nice pump, which was surprising as well as a few other things that surprised me.... Will explain below... All in all had a great workout that could have gone longer but lil lady got out of school early...


Hammer curl- 10x40
Db curl- 10x30
Hammer curl- 10x25
Db curl- 10x20
Olympic bar curl- rev grip x10, reg grip x10, rev grip x10, reg grip x10
Iso lat pulldown machine- 10x45,10x70, 10x85! *20x45
Cable row- 10x70, 10x100, 10x100
Bent over db row- 10x35
Reverse grip curl bar- 10x30
Extended arm reg grip curls**- 10x30
OH cable curls- 10x35, 15x40


Workout Notes:

* These were done one arm then the other in slow concentrated reps while keeping tension on the "resting" side, not stretching arm out all the way out but keeping upper arm perpendicular to the floor so bi was half flexed the whole time.
Real good pump in the lats and bi's were obtained doing this!

** This is held the same way you would a reg grip curl BUT with the arms extended out in front of me so there is always tension on the bi's even when extended as well as a tension on the front delts.... Feels awesome n a great way to destroy bi's with constant pressure.


So as mentioned I was quite surprised with a few things today.... First was my apartment decided to just shut the water off without warning (even though they were working on the pipes the day before they said nothing about it being turned back off again) and so it was tough to get in the right amount of water today leading to a thirsty mouth all day and painful back pumps from waking till working out....

Then I get a liter of water and start drinking on the way to the gym in order to get hydrated but being careful to only drink a lil since I hate working out with a full belly of fluid (can make me puke if not careful)... Well step on the scale....

204.5!!!

Fully expected to be lower since I only had a fraction of my normal fluid intake for the day, also missed at least one meal... Also expected possible weekend weight to dip a bit today with less to sustain glycogen stores....

Also the pump was a surprise since the fluid was def lacking today.... Was actually HUGE in the arms today and could feel my lats blowing up too...

All these factors set me into a positive mental attitude and helped drive my workout, pushing heavier numbers basically all around on major lifts n gave me the confidence to reincorporate some more unorthodox exercises (the two described above) that really hit the muscles well, keeping constant pressure through the entire set but can completely burn me out in situations where drive isn't there.

I must say, boladrol is quickly becoming a favorite of mine :D
 
Glad its working well PP. Watching closely to see if e2 becomes an issue. Im gyno prone and have a nodule from tren that doc doesnt want to remove :(.. Pics show nice improvement 2 bro. Kill it pimp!!
 
Sorry, I forgot I wanted to directly reply to this post...

SkItZoId said:
All looks like things are going to plan mate. BMI has improved greatly in week 2!. This compound is looking like the real deal. Can't wait to see what it does over the next 3 weeks for you. Definate improvements in delts, bi's and chest. Belly looks a bit better too, the top of your abs are showing more.

Any shut down starting?? Are you doing any cardio, or are you going to reserve all for muscle mass?
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First thanks again for the compliments, its great to hear that others are seeing the improvements as well!

I think I made mention some where that although shutdown is not yet apparent, I'm certain I'm well there with how strong this compound has been in every other respect... Surprisingly no notable testicular atrophy has taken place but it only seems to really happen to me on certain compounds (epi was one but then they blew up huge in pct). So without blood right now I can't be 100% but I'm fairly confident its damn near nill.... Although the compound itself seems to boost libido for me..

Also I have been neglecting to mention cardio. Its done a minimum of 3 times a week, last was monday morning, fasted, and according to a ton of stuff I've read, as long as cardio is done correctly (in 2 diff methods actually) it won't hinder bulking at all but will definitely stave off fat gain and even build muscle.... I've been focusing on the fat loss type.

Will be moving all day tomorrow, so while I'd normally do cardio in the am and take the rest of the day off ill just be focusing on getting stuff moved and try to get as many meals in possible and staying properly hydrated as well....
 
Thanks for keeping this log solvent and interesting, good luck with this run and I think you're going to be pleased wtih some keepable gains and min sides. I hope you consider yourself fortunate, if this product does appear it may not be around long. This is PP's major competition right now, their new line will not appear until after ibe sells out on bol.JMO
 
would a test base conteract the lethargy guys? If so i may use this next year after i use my dbol up in this coming cycle
 
Great log Poops... haven't seen you in the Monsterdrol xt logs but I know you were also interested...

One of the loggers is up 6 pounds in week 1 from Monsterdrol so this one is powerful as f*** too.

Monsterdrol & Balodrol are really looking like prime f***ing compounds to say the least.
 
Yeah MDXT is looking pretty BA.... Can't wait to run it and compare to Beastdrol.

Bola is looking good too.

KTS Poops!
 
i wish i could fastforward time so january would be here and i could pin my test :(
 
sorry completly off topic


lookin good pp


waht day r u on now?
 
BarbellBeast said:
Yeah MDXT is looking pretty BA.... Can't wait to run it and compare to Beastdrol.

Bola is looking good too.

KTS Poops!
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Monsterdrol is looking very solid, I'm also psyched to run that.

Poops, keep up the good work, and I hope you enjoy this. You may be one of the few who get to if it doesn't make it to market!
 
.... I dont see why it wouldnt make it to market...

sounds to me like IBE already has all the raws (with how they are handing out tester bottles there it seems they have a good amount) and that all they are doing is capping and bottling now... they said it should be out in a week....


Also, knowbull....

IBE and Boladrol have nothing to do with the release of our new line at Primordial Performance. We have always had a "by end of the year" timeline in mind with the release and a possible aggressive release date of another month... With that being said the ONLY thing thats been held up thus far is the info update to the public cause as mentioned we want to be clear about a few things and offer solid release dates with this update, it would be foolish for us to post info on a compound we are still working on finalizing ourselves. Believe me when I say there are no worries at PP about anyone stealing the thunder of our release, we definitely wouldnt hold up an entire line of breakthrough products cause of another companies product being out. Thats like asking for us to lose money and letting them take the market with zero competition.

Besides this is a huge consumers market, plenty enough to go around.
 
IBE said:
Hey PP have you noticed any fat lost so far?
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minimal, but my pictures show theres been some...

I changed my diet slightly coming on to this from fat loss to lbm gain with minimal fat gain. So far its been a success as im certain ive gained no fat but def throwin on some muscle right now.
 
chocolatemilk said:
Great log Poops... haven't seen you in the Monsterdrol xt logs but I know you were also interested...

One of the loggers is up 6 pounds in week 1 from Monsterdrol so this one is powerful as f*** too.

Monsterdrol & Balodrol are really looking like prime f***ing compounds to say the least.
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souds pretty sick!

any sides as of yet?
 
schwellington said:
sorry completly off topic


lookin good pp


waht day r u on now?
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I think its day 12... been moving house all day so im kinda discombobulated... lol

not bad really... 12 days and im already up 6lbs... prob more tomorrow when i hit the gym... although todays off day has sucked for rest and meals... speaking of which i gotta eat something....
 
Looking lean my friend, congrats on that! Great log, I enjoy reading the updates. We will have a presale for this stuff coming this Friday you won't want to miss that guys.
 
glad to see you back on the forums
 
AHAHA BB12! looks like ya already found it! was just responding to your PM friend!

Thanks for the welcome back! been on for a lil bit n was wonderin where you and few others I hadnt ran into yet had gotten off too.... macedaddy is another incognito face from the pastI havnt seen yet...
 
poopypants said:
AHAHA BB12! looks like ya already found it! was just responding to your PM friend!

Thanks for the welcome back! been on for a lil bit n was wonderin where you and few others I hadnt ran into yet had gotten off too.... macedaddy is another incognito face from the pastI havnt seen yet...
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I think he maybe off the forums....I'll hit him up and tell him to drop in...
 
Very late to this party. Had I known you were running and logging this stuff Poopster, I would have arrived earlier.
You're making quite the comeback. Muscle memory is a beautiful thing.
This Boladrol looks very interesting and promising. Pretty damn strong too if 4 to 6 mgs. is sufficient. Real Bolasterone is usually ran at 20 mgs. or slightly more.

I just read this whole thread at one sitting. I couldn't look away. ha ha My eyes were tearing up from not blinking.
So much detailed information in here and the side discussions are interesting as well.
Updates have been prompt and detailed. Great stuff.

UnrealMachine has some great posts in here too. I also am one of the guys who love SD. No bad sides ever. Strong shit too. Still have 4 bottles in stash for the future.


Now Slay All That Opposes You Poopster!!!:swordfight:

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11/05/10 Workout Notes

Workout:

Tonights workout went very well. I just moved and I live very close to my gym now so timing my meals preworkout is much easier n made for a great fuel up for the longer workout today....


Lateral db raises- 10x15, 10x20
Front db raises- 10x20, 10x25
Arnold db press- 10x35, 10x40, 12x30, 10x30
tricep rope pull down- 10x50
Single hand tri pulldown (l/r)- 10\10x30
Reverse grip single hand pulldown (l/r)- 10\10x30
Tricep rope pulldown- 10x60
Skull crusher/military press- 10/10x42.5, 10/10x52.5, 10/10x52.5, 8/7x52.5
Standing row (bb shrug)- 10x52.5, 10x62.5, 10x62.5, 10x62.5
Cable raise super sets(right lateral/left lateral/r front/l front)- 10/10/10/10x15, 10/10/10/10x15
Hammer strength shoulder press (l/r)- 10x25/25, 10x45/45, 10x65/65


Workout Notes:

So as you can see I increased volume a lot today, was working out for a good hour 15 min when normally its about 50 min... Was really surprised with how well strength just stayed throughout the workout today and never felt drained (although do now) even up till when I left I only did so cause I had to get my lil lady.... The biggest thing that surprised me was throwin up as much weight as I did on the hammer strength tonight last thing and pushing 65 on each side like I was fresh really easy... Might not be a huge number and by no means a pr for me, but to put it into perspective this was the last exercise of the night after demolishing my shoulders and tris and not much more then a month ago I was using similar weight fresh and it took all I had to get it up.... I'm def getting back to where I was fast!

Also tonight delts were blowing up but the big thing that surprised me was how much my traps all a sudden were just standing off my shoulders with no flex.... Here's a couple after pics...

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Still weighed in at 204, didn't surprise me much though between the fact that I didn't get the typical rest day yesterday and as many meals as I was supposed to and I feel as though I look leaner today in the mirror.

No real back pumps today, had the chance to relax from moving and got in plenty of fluid and even a nap (lethargy struck for sure) also did a lil sack check and realized my nuts have actually atrophied considerably more then I initially thought..... They got pretty atrophied on epi too but blew up even bigger then before with my torem based pct and while that was a super comprehensive pct I ran then I'm very confident that the trs stack will do the job and a great way for me to test out its effectiveness.

All in all still loving boladrol n its effects but its becoming more and more apparent that if guys are plannin on jumping on this stuff, overdosing it/taking no supports/thinly planned pcts then they are going to be very sorry when they start getting slammed with side effects and don't recover fully in pct and contract gyno and lose their gains....

For the guys that are serious though and do their best at covering all their bases while running a reasonable dose, they will have a GREAT time with this compound and really enjoy what it has to offer making some great quality mass and strength gains!
 
I may have missed this...

Any noticeable back pumps, acne...the standard side effects pros or cons?
 
BB12 said:
I may have missed this...

Any noticeable back pumps, acne...the standard side effects pros or cons?
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Definite back pumps, not much else this far. Bp has been an issue for other testers and I'm sure mine is slightly elevated but I have not experienced any sides like headaches really that accompany hypertension.

Lethargy is a definite factor as well but one that doesn't bother me right now and not willing to increase bp by taking stims to combat it.
 
Nice volume increase man. I love that feeling of being as fresh 45 min in as I was when I walked in the door!
 
Had An awesome time all day trying to figure out why my car won't start.... No legs today, hopefully will get the damn thing running tomorrow and get in to the gym before it closes...

Nothing else out of the norm to note.... Just irritated as hell today and tired from lethargy.
 
poopypants said:
Lethargy is a definite factor as well but one that doesn't bother me right now and not willing to increase bp by taking stims to combat it.
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You don't necessarily have to take stims to combat lethargy. Some good ol' DHEA would help. 100 mgs. per day.
Or some injectable testosterone...........;)
 
thundergod said:
You don't necessarily have to take stims to combat lethargy. Some good ol' DHEA would help. 100 mgs. per day.
Or some injectable testosterone...........;)
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12 weeks @ 500mg with 4mg/day week 1-4 Bolasterone

Sounds like a lot of fun
 
poopypants said:
Had An awesome time all day trying to figure out why my car won't start.... No legs today, hopefully will get the damn thing running tomorrow and get in to the gym before it closes...

Nothing else out of the norm to note.... Just irritated as hell today and tired from lethargy.
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As TG mentioned, do you have any Dermacrine on hand?

I guess it could skew results, but at least the lethargy wouldn't be as prominent.
 
when is the lethargy starting in mid day or after dosing? if so maybe try spitting the dose up. is it as bad as SD?



poopypants said:
Had An awesome time all day trying to figure out why my car won't start.... No legs today, hopefully will get the damn thing running tomorrow and get in to the gym before it closes...

Nothing else out of the norm to note.... Just irritated as hell today and tired from lethargy.
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At this point it is similar to m1t, which was the worse imo in terms of lethargy. SD wasn't as bad.
 
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