Boladrol(Incredible Bulk Expected)The Log

mich i apologize about the diet comment, but you should be gaining


and to correct you yes ai affect weight gain because the keep water retention down


they dont make u weaker
 
schwellington said:
mich i apologize about the diet comment, but you should be gaining


and to correct you yes ai affect weight gain because the keep water retention down


they dont make u weaker
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no prob I know you mean well.I'm aware of the interactions of the ai.I almost ran one as well while on this cycle but I wanted to keep the results as pure as I could within reason.
 
mich29 said:
no prob I know you mean well.I'm aware of the interactions of the ai.I almost ran one as well while on this cycle but I wanted to keep the results as pure as I could within reason.
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Lmfao...

And some how I've already gained 5lbs and gaining strength like crazy all the while dropping bf :rolleyes:

The AI is for my own safety and will be ran regardless of its miniscule effects on results, forget the fact that prob 90% of other members will also run a low dose ai in order to avoid the aromatization of dimethylestrodiol.

BTW we didn't come to an "agreement" on anything, in fact I believe it was nothing but disagreements.

Just lets wait and see what the end results look like for the both of us and see who's "not up to par"

I made no mention of your routine or it not being "normal", just that you refuse to even post anything about it.

And if you consider me voicing what everyone is thinking and saying behind your back in pm's cheap shots then that's your prerogative but not going to change the fact you need to rework your diet and don't belong touching any compound without the basics down pat.
 
poopypants said:
Lmfao...

And some how I've already gained 5lbs and gaining strength like crazy all the while dropping bf :rolleyes:

The AI is for my own safety and will be ran regardless of its miniscule effects on results, forget the fact that prob 90% of other members will also run a low dose ai in order to avoid the aromatization of dimethylestrodiol.

BTW we didn't come to an "agreement" on anything, in fact I believe it was nothing but disagreements.

Just lets wait and see what the end results look like for the both of us and see who's "not up to par"

I made no mention of your routine or it not being "normal", just that you refuse to even post anything about it.

And if you consider me voicing what everyone is thinking and saying behind your back in pm's cheap shots then that's your prerogative but not going to change the fact you need to rework your diet and don't belong touching any compound without the basics down pat.
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great work I'm not taking anything away from the 5lbs you have gained so far while losing bodyfat.I'm aware of why your running the Ai I would as well if I were jumping from one ph straight to another ph or running 5 methyls and shooting test e.

I guess we didn't but I do remember you requesting me to not talk to you and etc so I figured the same would be in my regard as well but guess I was wrong so here we are.

PM's were to keep this type of back and forth from clogging the thread.Ibe and phf know whats up and that they weren't fooling those that knew what has been cookin behind the oven door for awhile I take no issue with either of them as this is a busines and you gotta do whats best for you.

the fact you think you know so much about what I need to do is laughable and very hypocritical as you yourself are still getting back to where you were before your lay off and you have said this yourself in a few of your threads so your gains and etc could be questioned as well so your points are flawed by your own logic.
 
mich29 said:
the fact you think you know so much about what I need to do is laughable and very hypocritical as you yourself are still getting back to where you were before your lay off and you have said this yourself in a few of your threads so your gains and etc could be questioned as well so your points are flawed by your own logic.
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Really mich?

Oh wait, that's right, because I lost some muscle mass my brain must have got smaller too..... Uh no.

I KNOW you could learn a thing or two if you'd just listen up mich, every one in here started off in this thread constructively criticizing you, with a few exceptions... You decided you wouldn't be swayed and just know what's best regardless of any one elses expertise. Your diet consisting of sweets and pre made weight gainers n pizza parties is laughable at best and with a guy with your metabolism its passable for not pouring on fat BUT good luck building any muscle whatsoever with all those simple sugars being used first and most everything else going right down the toilet.

None of my points have been contradictory in the least and fully applicable to you regardless of my own situation, but nice attempt at shifting the issue. If you've viewed any of my logs and progress pics you'd know I'm capable of great transformations and putting on mass through a dedicated routine and diet and nutrient timing (with both natty compounds and designer steroids) learned through hours of reading and years of self application of different techniques, all of with you could learn from....

.....News flash mich, I WAS a skinny kid too!

I went from this(135-140lbs @5'10.75")

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great work I'm not taking anything away from the 5lbs you have gained so far while losing bodyfat.I'm aware of why your running the Ai I would as well if I were jumping from one ph straight to another ph or running 5 methyls and shooting test e
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This comparison is absolutely absurd and it goes without saying its not even applicable to why I'm running an AI.

Do you truly understand the role of an AI and why I said I wanted to block aromitization of dimethytestosterone (bolasterone) to dimethylestrogen?

My chlorothoxy run lasted all of 2weeks and 2 days? Hardly a "cycle" at all. While it did have a fast acting effect and I made some good progress on it, this also lends one to believe it holds a very short halflife, especially given they were both unmethylated compounds they will be metabolized quickly. Since I had zero days overlapping on dosing this should mean there is little to no skewing of the effects of boladrol. If anything regarding the gains from boladrol, one may think they will be lessened since my "fresh" receptors can't be taken advantage of by boladrol....

Regardless of my situation, yours is completely different. I don't know why you completely refuse any input from others and act as if no one can tell you anything of value... I don't know why you are determined to dismiss request after request for more info, stating that no one wants to hear about that from you, just a sides report, when the general consensus requests more.

I know what I say will be completely dismissed by you, you'll side step the real issue, your lack to diet and train correctly and obvious omission of any other info because of the fact you would rather not fabricate any info or just ashamed of your inconsistent and ineffective routine that others could help critique and tailor to your needs if all you'd do is ask, or you'll try to unsuccessfully divert attention to me, someone who can definitely provide info and results through current and past logs, someone who initially wanted to do nothing but help but can't stand the sham that this log is.....

Heaven forbid I speak my mind and everyone elses without being accused of picking on you just because of your size, when the truth is, you have many more problems here then just that. I'm trying to make you realize, that if addressed, they could truly elicit great physiological changes especially in the presence of a powerful steroidal compound like boladrol....
Oh well....
 
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to poopypants again"

//CC
 
So...no update?

Look, I really don't care how mich and PP feel toward each other or their agreements/disagreements toward the compound for that matter. The sole purpose of coming to this stupid log is to see updates.

Mich - please don't do the "I'm not going to cover training, diet, etc. because it will be overlooked because of my size" thing. It's like feeling sorry for yourself. Guess what? Maybe there are more people that are your size and they were excited to read this in order to get some information more relevant to them.

This isn't meant to be a personal attack. In fact, it's anything but. You're logging a product that a lot of people are curious about - please just run this like any quality log would be: diet / training / sides (positive AND negative).
 
MidwestBeast said:
So...no update?

Look, I really don't care how mich and PP feel toward each other or their agreements/disagreements toward the compound for that matter. The sole purpose of coming to this stupid log is to see updates.

Mich - please don't do the "I'm not going to cover training, diet, etc. because it will be overlooked because of my size" thing. It's like feeling sorry for yourself. Guess what? Maybe there are more people that are your size and they were excited to read this in order to get some information more relevant to them.

This isn't meant to be a personal attack. In fact, it's anything but. You're logging a product that a lot of people are curious about - please just run this like any quality log would be: diet / training / sides (positive AND negative).
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^^^^agree^^^^

quit throwing the baby out with the bath water dude!! I want to know the good the bad and the ugly..
 
Sorry I am coming a bit late into this log, mich hopefully you can get us some more frequent updates, everyone is really wanting to see everything :D.

Just so you guys know we had someone run some liver enzyme tests and nothing was out of range with them after 2 1/2 weeks. We did it after that amount of time purposely to see what the short term effect was. They gained a little over 6 lbs as well so that was very encouraging to see. I think people were "assuming" that it would be toxic because it has an androgenic, old-school feel to it (damn I love the old school shiz) but that is not always the case! I absolutely love the feeling of being on this stuff though, first time I didn't feel lethargic. Not to say there aren't other good things out there I just like the aggressive feeling.
 
PHFSupps said:
Sorry I am coming a bit late into this log, mich hopefully you can get us some more frequent updates, everyone is really wanting to see everything :D.

Just so you guys know we had someone run some liver enzyme tests and nothing was out of range with them after 2 1/2 weeks. We did it after that amount of time purposely to see what the short term effect was. They gained a little over 6 lbs as well so that was very encouraging to see. I think people were "assuming" that it would be toxic because it has an androgenic, old-school feel to it (damn I love the old school shiz) but that is not always the case! I absolutely love the feeling of being on this stuff though, first time I didn't feel lethargic. Not to say there aren't other good things out there I just like the aggressive feeling.
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Did you run any other bloods at the 2.5 week mark? If so how were they?
 
dont loose heart mich- i get flamed everytime i run something- why? I dont know lol but whatever, ive been working hard and i am loosing the fat i gained from my last cycle while retaining muscle mass- just dedication obviously you have some of that because u r puttting an untested prhormone in ur body- so in conclusion man i was flamed like crazy and will be again when i run my test e/dbol/winstrol cycle- but who cares- just pay attention to consturctive criticism and keep updateing


i do agree with poopy- while u prolly wont get fat from the simple sugars- they are not at all beneficial for mass building so i would cut back on those- again my personal opioin man keep on keepn on
 
I don't usually bother looking a logs. The reason being that they have too much information I just don't want to read. I don't give a s hit about your workout and how many reps you did or what you f'ing had from breakfast!.

Just tell me about the sides, blood work, and if you increased your strength or lost any fat.

If your diet changes that is obviously going to affect your gains/loses. Now if you go and change your diet dramatically while taking this new product...We are not going to be able to tell if its the diet change or the actual product that has produced the results!. This the reason for a "control group" in any type of testing.

I've seen this a million times on forums. A guy starts taking a product and he doesn't have the best diet. Well the people in the forum, or the makers of the supplement say "its your diet". Then he starts changing his diet dramatically and all of a sudden- you guessed it - RESULTS!.

Even if the subject is eating like crap, a new supplement or drug is going to produce some kind of result/change in the body. It may not work as well as in someone eating correctly, but it will still work.
 
T-Bone said:
Just tell me about the sides, blood work, and if you increased your strength or lost any fat.
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I def. agree with this. Some people don't even post these results in logs I've looked at, but they sure as hell take the time to post what they had for dinner.
 
poopypants said:
Really mich?

Oh wait, that's right, because I lost some muscle mass my brain must have got smaller too..... Uh no.

I KNOW you could learn a thing or two if you'd just listen up mich, every one in here started off in this thread constructively criticizing you, with a few exceptions... You decided you wouldn't be swayed and just know what's best regardless of any one elses expertise. Your diet consisting of sweets and pre made weight gainers n pizza parties is laughable at best and with a guy with your metabolism its passable for not pouring on fat BUT good luck building any muscle whatsoever with all those simple sugars being used first and most everything else going right down the toilet.
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your correct honest and non mean spirited advice was given and that advice was taken to heart.however yours is just complaining and crying about this log and what you don't agree with so your advice of course I'm going to take with a grain of salt because its not coming from the right place.

Second you know nothing of my diet so please don't sit here and act like you do your trying to create something that was never talked abut indepth aside from a party at work. it was just to show that right now I'm not always picky with food right now.

poopypants said:
None of my points have been contradictory in the least and fully applicable to you regardless of my own situation, but nice attempt at shifting the issue. If you've viewed any of my logs and progress pics you'd know I'm capable of great transformations and putting on mass through a dedicated routine and diet and nutrient timing (with both natty compounds and designer steroids) learned through hours of reading and years of self application of different techniques, all of with you could learn from....

.....News flash mich, I WAS a skinny kid too!


This comparison is absolutely absurd and it goes without saying its not even applicable to why I'm running an AI.

Do you truly understand the role of an AI and why I said I wanted to block aromitization of dimethytestosterone (bolasterone) to dimethylestrogen?
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your points indeed are flawed others have pointed this out as well your in no better shape than me in running boldadrol. I understand why your running it but you wouldn't have to worry about aromitization as much had you not jumped from one ph to the other.I get your idea of wanting dry nice gains but you can't deny your at a greater risk of aromitization due to having no time off going from one ph to the other.You didn't read my notes did you? Myabe your prone to aromitization and if this is the case I'm not knocking you for that but your still running an ai and it affects gains regardless.

I'm aware of your past great work putting on weight.

poopypants said:
My chlorothoxy run lasted all of 2weeks and 2 days? Hardly a "cycle" at all. While it did have a fast acting effect and I made some good progress on it, this also lends one to believe it holds a very short halflife, especially given they were both unmethylated compounds they will be metabolized quickly. Since I had zero days overlapping on dosing this should mean there is little to no skewing of the effects of boladrol. If anything regarding the gains from boladrol, one may think they will be lessened since my "fresh" receptors can't be taken advantage of by boladrol....
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read your comments in bold I don't have to say much here do I?


poopypants said:
Regardless of my situation, yours is completely different. I don't know why you completely refuse any input from others and act as if no one can tell you anything of value... I don't know why you are determined to dismiss request after request for more info, stating that no one wants to hear about that from you, just a sides report, when the general consensus requests more.

I know what I say will be completely dismissed by you, you'll side step the real issue, your lack to diet and train correctly and obvious omission of any other info because of the fact you would rather not fabricate any info or just ashamed of your inconsistent and ineffective routine that others could help critique and tailor to your needs if all you'd do is ask, or you'll try to unsuccessfully divert attention to me, someone who can definitely provide info and results through current and past logs, someone who initially wanted to do nothing but help but can't stand the sham that this log is.....
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as I've stated a few times already you can always simply avoid the log instead of using it as your soap box.

poopypants said:
Heaven forbid I speak my mind and everyone elses without being accused of picking on you just because of your size, when the truth is, you have many more problems here then just that. I'm trying to make you realize, that if addressed, they could truly elicit great physiological changes especially in the presence of a powerful steroidal compound like boladrol....
Oh well....
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the bottom line in between your rants is that you don't agree with the log and how its being run and thats fine but to sit here and continue to liter this log with your excessive rants and raves is uncalled and down right wrong anyway you look at it. Again this is why I wanted to keep this to pm's as this has no place in this log whatsoever.I honestly didn't want to reply to these types of posts but at some point you have to response to nonsense like this.
 
MidwestBeast said:
So...no update?

Look, I really don't care how mich and PP feel toward each other or their agreements/disagreements toward the compound for that matter. The sole purpose of coming to this stupid log is to see updates.

Mich - please don't do the "I'm not going to cover training, diet, etc. because it will be overlooked because of my size" thing. It's like feeling sorry for yourself. Guess what? Maybe there are more people that are your size and they were excited to read this in order to get some information more relevant to them.

This isn't meant to be a personal attack. In fact, it's anything but. You're logging a product that a lot of people are curious about - please just run this like any quality log would be: diet / training / sides (positive AND negative).
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trust I ain't throwing a pity party I'm just not wasting time on things that won't matter.people want sides and gains.

SkItZoId said:
^^^^agree^^^^

quit throwing the baby out with the bath water dude!! I want to know the good the bad and the ugly..
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the update is coming I gotta swin through the **** first thoug ;)

BrYmAsTeR17 said:
I don't care what I know, I just want to know SOMETHING! People fail at posting updates. :cussing:
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true I was looking forward to tra's updates but he had legit reasons. I haven't checked his log yet to see if he has yet but I'm sure they will be interesting updates.


PHFSupps said:
Sorry I am coming a bit late into this log, mich hopefully you can get us some more frequent updates, everyone is really wanting to see everything :D.

Just so you guys know we had someone run some liver enzyme tests and nothing was out of range with them after 2 1/2 weeks. We did it after that amount of time purposely to see what the short term effect was. They gained a little over 6 lbs as well so that was very encouraging to see. I think people were "assuming" that it would be toxic because it has an androgenic, old-school feel to it (damn I love the old school shiz) but that is not always the case! I absolutely love the feeling of being on this stuff though, first time I didn't feel lethargic. Not to say there aren't other good things out there I just like the aggressive feeling.
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good info to know here^^^

T-Bone said:
I don't usually bother looking a logs. The reason being that they have too much information I just don't want to read. I don't give a s hit about your workout and how many reps you did or what you f'ing had from breakfast!.

Just tell me about the sides, blood work, and if you increased your strength or lost any fat.

If your diet changes that is obviously going to affect your gains/loses. Now if you go and change your diet dramatically while taking this new product...We are not going to be able to tell if its the diet change or the actual product that has produced the results!. This the reason for a "control group" in any type of testing.

I've seen this a million times on forums. A guy starts taking a product and he doesn't have the best diet. Well the people in the forum, or the makers of the supplement say "its your diet". Then he starts changing his diet dramatically and all of a sudden- you guessed it - RESULTS!.

Even if the subject is eating like crap, a new supplement or drug is going to produce some kind of result/change in the body. It may not work as well as in someone eating correctly, but it will still work.
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I agree I'd rather skip to the sexy stuff rather than have to sit through watching the clothes slowly come off at one item an hour.:)

BrYmAsTeR17 said:
I def. agree with this. Some people don't even post these results in logs I've looked at, but they sure as hell take the time to post what they had for dinner.
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I agree here
 
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Weight: Was:128lbs---Current Weight 130lbs

Side Effects: the Acne has leveled off its still present but hasn't gotten worse a little cream and time will handle this issue

Libido: as I spoke about a few days ago I had a slight drop off.Its at a 9 at the moment which I'm really liking so far no need to pop any old man pills yet.

Aggression: its at a 10.I can choose to turn the switch on or off right now and its a great feeling.I pushed through a few sets after it was clear my body had given out this was def an amazing feeling.I'll admit I'm not sure have safe it was to do so but a superman like feeling none the less.

Strength: power is up I would say out of 10 I would say its at 6.8

Focus:my focus is at a 10.I feel like a monk surrounded by ***** yet I could give a **** less and just keep getting my work done in the gym and at work bypassing the bull**** and etc that goes on around me.

Energy: 8 a little jump at times but thats it.

Swag: 10.I feel like I can do anything I set my mind to right now.

Mood:10 I feel great while on this stuff no dead feeling no huge drop after the effects are gone nothing just a smooth feeling of lets get this **** popping bitch.

Thoughts:

A few things stand out here and thats the high degree of focus I have while on this stuff.the level of swag I feel is also something to really note.On 10/27/10 I finally experienced the effects of boldadrol.( I took a few days to process this to see if it was just a good workout day or effects of boladrol .the same feelings happened again the next day so it was the real deal)I pushed through sets even after my body had shutdown pretty much.I wanted to keep knocking out sets past my normal sets so I did a few more but had to leave and get ready for work so eventually I had to pull myself away.

I also thought about doing a few more sets after work but thought better than to push my luck any further than I did eariler that day by pushing through sets and doing extra sets.When I pushed through these sets a joint of aggression hit me as my body told me to quit through my last set before I could finish it and for some reason I had a new level of drive and finished the set and wanted to do more so I did a few more sets.

I still feel the dosing should be alot higher but due to the rules and me liking to be in good health I won't try uppping the dose.I can only dream of what higher dosing would bring in terms of gains and etc it would seem to be truely epic.

I also can't wait for these next 2 weeks they should prove to be fun.
 
Nice update mich, wouldn't mind seeing if you took my advice on that training routine I posted earlier ;)

//CC
 
BrYmAsTeR17 said:
I def. agree with this. Some people don't even post these results in logs I've looked at, but they sure as hell take the time to post what they had for dinner.
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That is always the battle in logging, giving enough info without getting too boring.

One of the most knowledgable guys here Snagency, got next to nobody posting in his logs or asking questions and sometimes I wonder if it was because he was so thorough and precise. Then you'd compare it to a log that was mostly boob shots, and they'd have 10x the views and posts by other people. Kinda sad.
 
EasyEJL said:
That is always the battle in logging, giving enough info without getting too boring.

One of the most knowledgable guys here Snagency, got next to nobody posting in his logs or asking questions and sometimes I wonder if it was because he was so thorough and precise. Then you'd compare it to a log that was mostly boob shots, and they'd have 10x the views and posts by other people. Kinda sad.
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^^^I concur.

And good update, mich.
 
Delta Force said:
Stop the world... here comes the 3rd update!
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LOOOL

EasyEJL said:
That is always the battle in logging, giving enough info without getting too boring.

One of the most knowledgable guys here Snagency, got next to nobody posting in his logs or asking questions and sometimes I wonder if it was because he was so thorough and precise. Then you'd compare it to a log that was mostly boob shots, and they'd have 10x the views and posts by other people. Kinda sad.
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I agree. I never understood the whole posting of boob pictures all over on logs. I don't sign in here to see some mild ass playboy type sh*t. I wanna see what steroids can do to people and their body. I also don't like steroid logs without pictures.

Also hate too much information. If I'm gonna have to read what someone was eating every single day..... oh dear lord lol.
 
chocolatemilk said:
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I agree. I never understood the whole posting of boob pictures all over on logs. I don't sign in here to see some mild ass playboy type sh*t. I wanna see what steroids can do to people and their body. I also don't like steroid logs without pictures.

Also hate too much information. If I'm gonna have to read what someone was eating every single day..... oh dear lord lol.
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I have to agree with this^^^

If I want to look at some hooters I will go to a much better site than AM for that purpose. I'm here to learn and get big and ripped. Thats it.

A log without pics is usless to me too. Kinda like if there aint no pics, it didn;t happen. Well at least to me
 
RickRock13 said:
A log without pics is usless to me too. Kinda like if there aint no pics, it didn;t happen. Well at least to me
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Pictures only prove the poster knows how to upload a pic or embed one. All information posted on an internet message board forum is always taken with a grain of salt. I really don't care to see pictures of guys with their shirts off flexing. That just doesn't appeal to me. Also I don't care about your workout and how many sets or reps you did. I care if you increased strength, but you can just tell me that without posting your entire workout. My workout is gonna be different from yours anyway. My diet will also be different. In fact, almost everything I do will be different. How I live, how I eat, and my general lifestyle are all different. So you see post all that crap about your workout and every single meal you eat means nothing. Obviously people who do things differently are going to get different results. So whats the point? Posting pictures of yourselves with your shirts off helps me about as much as a MuscleTech before and after picture!.
 
Once again I stop by before mich was finish with this update... All I saw was the image <go figure>

Good update, this is the type of information we're looking for, everyone has a different style or logs thats been covered already above but how hte compound is working for ya is what we care about... good to hear its kicked in, I thought this would kick in much sooner since it was talked about a 2 wk cycle.

Mich, can you elaborate on this? "I pushed through sets even after my body had shutdown pretty much.I" what do you mean by shutdown?

DF
 
i think he meant he had more endurance- like his muscles where failing but with the androgenic support he pushed through sets


correct me if im wrong mich
 
I didnt want to take his words out of context thats why I included the whole sentence, that said I dont want to jump to any conclusions, I've read somewhere this compound can shut you down rather quickly
 
lol im sure he is shutdown delta hes been on it for 2 weeks now right? Yeah he should be shutting down
 
Delta Force said:
Mich, can you elaborate on this? "I pushed through sets even after my body had shutdown pretty much.I" what do you mean by shutdown?

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I did my normal number of sets and pretty much burned out towards the end like normal but felt a joint of aggression and blew through the last few reps I had left .After this happened I had a second wind kinda feeling I would liken to that of a boxer who gets knocked down but after he gets up feels better than when he started.After this happened I just started doing more reps and sets till I pretty much ran out of time and had to stop and get ready for work.

schwellington said:
i think he meant he had more endurance- like his muscles where failing but with the androgenic support he pushed through sets


correct me if im wrong mich
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yes this is correct


Delta Force said:
I didnt want to take his words out of context thats why I included the whole sentence, that said I dont want to jump to any conclusions, I've read somewhere this compound can shut you down rather quickly
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in terms of shutdown I've only felt a slight drop off so far.

schwellington said:
lol im sure he is shutdown delta hes been on it for 2 weeks now right? Yeah he should be shutting down
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so far so good I have 2 more weeks to go so I'm pretty sure a full shutdown will occur at some point during the next 2 weeks.
 
It seems like this stuff is not as potently dosed as IBE claims..

M1T will probably still be the most powerfull via recommended dosage (I can't say on a mg per mg basis though), so it looks like the only thing left to do is to assess the sides and figure out what dose makes the safest gains.

I'd say some people could run this from 6-8 mg a day without sacrificing a good gain/side ratio..
 
BrYmAsTeR17 said:
It seems like this stuff is not as potently dosed as IBE claims..

M1T will probably still be the most powerfull via recommended dosage (I can't say on a mg per mg basis though), so it looks like the only thing left to do is to assess the sides and figure out what dose makes the safest gains.

I'd say some people could run this from 6-8 mg a day without sacrificing a good gain/side ratio..
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from what I can tell so far I would think to start at 10mg a day then work up the dosing (if needed) would be the best way to get this stuff working and working fast though of course this would shorten the cycle as well I would think at this point due to not knowing how hard this stuff is on a person yet so I would guess a 3 week cycle for the user who knows what to look and feel for sides wise.The real fun with this stuff is going to be when its released to the general public.I'm sure the dosing will be all over the place and the gains by some or many will be ungodly good.
 
People need to get off this mans junk..
At least he posts in his thread with some sort of info unlike a certain logger that I was interested in..
 
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here is another small update in order to help others get a feel for when some sides might hit.I am right now experiencing very small back pumps.If they become crippling I'll dose taurine but I doubt they will as in the past back pumps have never been a problem for me.
 
lol better look to have it already on hand if you dont man.... If your starting to feel em creep half way, youll likely be in pain later if you dont do some prevention n clamoring to get some...

Try to keep potassium levels high too, lots O'nanners.
 
Backpumps are a b!tch :rant:

//CC
 
mich29 said:
SMALL UPDATE!!!!

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here is another small update in order to help others get a feel for when some sides might hit.I am right now experiencing very small back pumps.If they become crippling I'll dose taurine but I doubt they will as in the past back pumps have never been a problem for me.
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Hey dude. I know alot of people dont like a blow by blow account of diet and workout, but if you wouldn't mind. Im interested in both. What do they look like? How are yougetting your calories and how are you working out? Cheers. Good updates by the way.
 
SkItZoId said:
Hey dude. I know alot of people dont like a blow by blow account of diet and workout, but if you wouldn't mind. Im interested in both. What do they look like? How are yougetting your calories and how are you working out? Cheers. Good updates by the way.
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I try to keep it simple.hamburger,steak,chicken,potatoes,fruit,alot of lactaid milk,weight gainer drinks 3 times a day.alot of water. a gllon a drink,a few cheat meals during the week and a few cheat meals during the weekends.oats,eggs,workouts are about 45 to 60 mins long focus on upper body and abs one day and legs calves ,thighs the second day then make sure to hit these areas twice a week so 4 on 3 off.
 
you have a fast metabolism right mitch :( I couldnt cheat several times a week I would get fattttttt I did cheat on this last cycle way to much- this next 24 weeker- gunna be 1 cheat meal a week and its gunna be controlled too


anywho whats ur weight gain bro? Sides?
 
schwellington said:
you have a fast metabolism right mitch :( I couldnt cheat several times a week I would get fattttttt I did cheat on this last cycle way to much- this next 24 weeker- gunna be 1 cheat meal a week and its gunna be controlled too


anywho whats ur weight gain bro? Sides?
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i'll drop updates later on today don't wanna give it away too soon ;)
 
The Update

UPDATE!!!
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Weight: Was:128lbs---Current Weight 130lbs

Side Effects: acne is somewhat worse had a few more pimples

Libido: no change from the last update not 100% but no drop off

Aggression: I would say its at a 9 as I get slighly overly annoyed by stupid stuff I would normally not get as annoyed by so aggression is def up.

Strength: power is up I would say out of 10 I would say 6.7

Focus:is at a perfect 10 def amped when it comes to getting stuff done.

Energy: 8 I feel jump more jumpy for a bit after dosing but thats about it.

Swag: is at 8.5 def feel more ****y and sure of myself than I normally already do so this is a nice feeling to have.

Mood:10,still feeling good overall while on this stuff def like this feeling of well being.

Thoughts:
I notice I don't have the dirty feeling like I would get from other ph/ds products.I am still waiting for that feeling where you feel like u could rip a phone book in half but overall I am enjoying this cycle alot.No change in recovery time just my normal time,strength has gone up at a steady rate nothing crazy but def a change.My drive to push through the pain is still there but while i might do a few extra sets I'm listening to my body and won't push it again like

I did before as injury I know isn't fall behind if I tried to do it again.I do feel alot bigger with only a medium amount of fat gain so far.Blood pressure issues have only reared up if I miss my water intake other than that I have no issues really to note of.I think as long as support supps are used,water intake is kept very high and you know your body this supplement shouldn't cause many issues.
 
mich29 said:
UPDATE!!!
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Weight: Was:128lbs---Current Weight 130lbs

Side Effects: acne is somewhat worse had a few more pimples

Libido: no change from the last update not 100% but no drop off

Aggression: I would say its at a 9 as I get slighly overly annoyed by stupid stuff I would normally not get as annoyed by so aggression is def up.

Strength: power is up I would say out of 10 I would say 6.7

Focus:is at a perfect 10 def amped when it comes to getting stuff done.

Energy: 8 I feel jump more jumpy for a bit after dosing but thats about it.

Swag: is at 8.5 def feel more ****y and sure of myself than I normally already do so this is a nice feeling to have.

Mood:10,still feeling good overall while on this stuff def like this feeling of well being.

Thoughts:
I notice I don't have the dirty feeling like I would get from other ph/ds products.I am still waiting for that feeling where you feel like u could rip a phone book in half but overall I am enjoying this cycle alot.No change in recovery time just my normal time,strength has gone up at a steady rate nothing crazy but def a change.My drive to push through the pain is still there but while i might do a few extra sets I'm listening to my body and won't push it again like

I did before as injury I know isn't fall behind if I tried to do it again.I do feel alot bigger with only a medium amount of fat gain so far.Blood pressure issues have only reared up if I miss my water intake other than that I have no issues really to note of.I think as long as support supps are used,water intake is kept very high and you know your body this supplement shouldn't cause many issues.
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I have to say im shocked you have only put on 2 pounds at this stage.
 
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