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ATTN: Users of PES AnaBeta and those interested in AnaBeta

I noticed very little change increasing my daily dose from 4 to 5 caps. So little in fact that I dropped the dose back down to 4 to make my stash last longer, haha
 
T50 said:
So i'm about to start a cut using LeanGains and was thinking about using AnaBeta during this time. Normally, I would not use it during a cut since it seems to cause extreme hunger but i'm thinking it may come in handy for choking down all the calories in a short period of time and may make me gain some muscle combined with the LG approach. What are your guys thoughts on this?

Also, how would you dose it? 1 Cap before Break Fast Meal and 2 Caps before Post-Workout meal?
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Bump. Anyone have input?
 
T50 said:
Bump. Anyone have input?
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I havent read much into the lean gains thing. You always want to be taking the capsule with meals.

Some people will agree 2 capsules at once is pretty intense, but some can handle it.

I would do 1 with breakfast, 1 preworkout, 1 with post workout shake, 1 with post workout meal.

It all depends on when your meals and workouts are. But the goal is to always have 1 capsule 1 hour preworkout with or without a meal, 1 capsule with your post workout shake or meal, and the other 2 capsules taken with separate meals.

Make sense?
 
Lean Gains essentially gives you about an 8 hour window to eat. The other 16 hours are fasting. Im guessing he is wondering will Anabeta be just as effective is all 4 caps are taking within an 8 hour period?

nattydisaster said:
I havent read much into the lean gains thing. You always want to be taking the capsule with meals.

Some people will agree 2 capsules at once is pretty intense, but some can handle it.

I would do 1 with breakfast, 1 preworkout, 1 with post workout shake, 1 with post workout meal.

It all depends on when your meals and workouts are. But the goal is to always have 1 capsule 1 hour preworkout with or without a meal, 1 capsule with your post workout shake or meal, and the other 2 capsules taken with separate meals.

Make sense?
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T50 said:
So i'm about to start a cut using LeanGains and was thinking about using AnaBeta during this time. Normally, I would not use it during a cut since it seems to cause extreme hunger but i'm thinking it may come in handy for choking down all the calories in a short period of time and may make me gain some muscle combined with the LG approach. What are your guys thoughts on this?

Also, how would you dose it? 1 Cap before Break Fast Meal and 2 Caps before Post-Workout meal?
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Dosing I would do 1-2 caps pre-training, 1 cap with post-training meal, and another cap (if required) with another meal.


GoHardOrGoHme said:
Lean Gains essentially gives you about an 8 hour window to eat. The other 16 hours are fasting. Im guessing he is wondering will Anabeta be just as effective is all 4 caps are taking within an 8 hour period?
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Yes, that's fine. All of my doses were taken within ~8 hours easily for the majority of the time.

~Rosie~
 
The Full AnaBeta Writeup and Manual will be first released to those who are signed up for the PES Insider. We have a special email going out next week to all Insider members. Sign up on the home page if you haven't already. PES

All PES Insider emails will be coming from our new domain. We transferred over the old list of emails, so anyone who was already on the Insider list is still on there.
 
nattydisaster said:
The Full AnaBeta Writeup and Manual will be first released to those who are signed up for the PES Insider. We have a special email going out next week to all Insider members. Sign up on the home page if you haven't already. PES

All PES Insider emails will be coming from our new domain. We transferred over the old list of emails, so anyone who was already on the Insider list is still on there.
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thinking about signing up again, just to be safe
 
nattydisaster said:
The Full AnaBeta Writeup and Manual will be first released to those who are signed up for the PES Insider. We have a special email going out next week to all Insider members. Sign up on the home page if you haven't already. PES

All PES Insider emails will be coming from our new domain. We transferred over the old list of emails, so anyone who was already on the Insider list is still on there.
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If all emails are coming from the new domain, I assume it is possible that some people might find it in their junk mail folder until they approve the new PES sender address as safe?
 
Let's place bets on how many people are going to say on here that they didn't receive the email only to find out later it was in their spam folder...
 
Ordering 2 bottles for myself and 1 for a friend. Can't wait to run it. Lean Gains + 7-KE Spray + Ana-Beta is gonna be fun. Hoping to shed a lot of fat while gaining (a little) muscle ;)

Then wayyyy ahead in like November i'm gonna test it out in PCT. Gonna be sickkkk
 
Will definitely be picking this up. Depending on how things shape up might run this when I do my first powerlifting competition. Probably stack it with some Athletix supps. Have to figure out what all I can get away with taking.
 
Can we please get an update of the sorts

"Hey Peeps! We sent an e-mail out! You may wanna check your spam folder!" so that I can check my spam folder? That would be fantastic.
 
bla55 said:
Can we please get an update of the sorts

"Hey Peeps! We sent an e-mail out! You may wanna check your spam folder!" so that I can check my spam folder? That would be fantastic.
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write up will be released approximately 24 hours prior to product release. Product should be good to go at NP on 6/21
 
antknee02 said:
man, i really hope this pans out to be something really good..i remember the whole Pink Magic thing..what a let down.
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coincidently..that was 1 year ago this month when it was released to the public! Ahhh, memmmmories....

....but worry not, the AnaBeta formula used for the logs will be the same AnaBeta formula in its released version...
 
T50 said:
...Lean Gains + 7-KE Spray + Ana-Beta is gonna be fun. Hoping to shed a lot of fat while gaining (a little) muscle ;)
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Definitely a nice recomp stack. Just don't expect a lot of progress either way if you're looking to recomp - unless you're concentrating on fat loss, with any lean mass gains a side benefit.

~Rosie~
 
antknee02 said:
man, i really hope this pans out to be something really good..i remember the whole Pink Magic thing..what a let down.
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never used pink magic, but had some good fun in some of the threads.

natty, will there be a limit to the amount we can purchase?
 
uforce said:
never used pink magic, but had some good fun in some of the threads.

natty, will there be a limit to the amount we can purchase?
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He was asking for a 2 bottle limit per person.
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
Definitely a nice recomp stack. Just don't expect a lot of progress either way if you're looking to recomp - unless you're concentrating on fat loss, with any lean mass gains a side benefit.

~Rosie~
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Yea like you said, i'm looking purely for fat loss and if any muscle is gained that'll be a bonus. As long as I don't lose muscle i'm happy.
 
Question for Natty -- I know you've stressed running anabeta solo and that you wouldn't stack it, but what about using it on-cycle simply for the appetite stimulation? Assuming it has that pronounced effect for the user, as noted in the logs that some users didn't experience quite the hunger increase as others...
 
T50 said:
Yea like you said, i'm looking purely for fat loss and if any muscle is gained that'll be a bonus. As long as I don't lose muscle i'm happy.
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There is NO reason why you should lose muscle mass, even if you're cutting!

~Rosie~
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
There is NO reason why you should lose muscle mass, even if you're cutting!

~Rosie~
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that depends on how long and how hard you cut.

if you're cutting for a contest prep . . . you'll lose muscle.
if you're simply looking to get in the single digits or so, you shouldn't lose much (if anything)
 
AndrewNico said:
that depends on how long and how hard you cut.

if you're cutting for a contest prep . . . you'll lose muscle.
if you're simply looking to get in the single digits or so, you shouldn't lose much (if anything)
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I disagree with this - regardless of whether trying to get into "contest shape", get into single digits re body composition, or just lose a little bit more bodyfat, if your NUTRITION AND TRAINING ARE OPTIMAL FOR YOU SPECIFICALLY, then you should be able to MAINTAIN your current muscle mass. Do note that losing lean body mass does NOT mean you are losing muscle mass, since lean body mass is everything that is NOT bodyfat in your body. The only time this might become true is if one is not sensible in how they cut (i.e. not eating enough or being excessive with training for their energy intake) which occurs a lot - it does NOT have to happen though!

~Rosie~
 
In terms of contest prep'ing

If you have a professional nutrition coach, yes I agree with you

most of us do not though, in which case we WILL make mistakes and lose muscle mass one way or another. To be able to nail your body's response perfectly if you're not a pro(or have not been doing it for many years) is extremely difficult.
 
AndrewNico said:
In terms of contest prep'ing

If you have a professional nutrition coach, yes I agree with you

most of us do not though, in which case we WILL make mistakes and lose muscle mass one way or another. To be able to nail your body's response perfectly if you're not a pro(or have not been doing it for many years) is extremely difficult.
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Re competition preparation and in general, I don't have a nutrition coach - never have and probably never will.

It's not hard to research and take the time to learn more about nutrition for yourself, experiment and monitor your body's response using different nutritional methods, playing with and adjusting things until you find what works best for you. Just because you might never have been able to maintain your muscle mass when losing bodyfat does not mean that it is not possible and is always going to happen, or that everyone experiences this, experienced or not - although most people go about fat loss the WRONG way in general, which is why they have such issues.

Having a professional coach or not, your overall comments just affirm my initial response of "There is NO reason why you should lose muscle mass, even if you're cutting!"

~Rosie~
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
Re competition preparation and in general, I don't have a nutrition coach - never have and probably never will.

It's not hard to research and take the time to learn more about nutrition for yourself, experiment and monitor your body's response using different nutritional methods, playing with and adjusting things until you find what works best for you. Just because you might never have been able to maintain your muscle mass when losing bodyfat does not mean that it is not possible and is always going to happen, or that everyone experiences this, experienced or not - although most people go about fat loss the WRONG way in general, which is why they have such issues.

Having a professional coach or not, your overall comments just affirm my initial response of "There is NO reason why you should lose muscle mass, even if you're cutting!"

~Rosie~
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In theory, your statement is correct.

But you're assuming that the individual has perfected everything already(in terms of losing bf). In that case, yes they should have the knowledge necessary to spare all of their muscle mass while cutting.

Truth is, most of these guys (myself included) have been in this game for too short of a time to have properly experimented and found out the exact ways our bodies respond.

I've never had trouble with losing muscle mass before, but I've also asked a lot of questions and gained a lot of knowledge on my own(in terms of my own body), which others may not have done.


Sure you can learn about nutrition, but theory and practice can be two completely different things. People make mistakes, that's just life.
 
What route are the trucks taking, and what's their license plate number... :privateeye:
 
Just as an aside....that guy on the top of the truck is me. Gotta get my AnaBeta. :)
 
Man todays the day. And yesterday I must have pulled a muscle in my back. I felt a stabbing pain, now my back is stiff as a board. Couldn't have happened at a worst time
 
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