TrueWe’re the “model minority.”
TrueWe’re the “model minority.”
But that’s the standard the rest of us are being held to. “Don’t say this, don’t say that, it’s all racist!” *Maybe* you’re not like that, I don’t know, but that’s what’s happening out there. So, hold yourself to the same standard....please reevaluate why you have an unwavering commitment to nitpick verbiage instead of looking at the significance of what’s actually being said. Thanks.
Exactly. It’s no one’s fault but our own where we end up. I know too many people that saw the cards they were dealt and still won the hand than to buy into the current garbage.you are forgetting one important thing...personal responsibility-that is what AA teaches.
This is a reasonable take as long as you’re willing to listen to other groups of people and potentially change your words or behavior. E.g. Asian Americans put up with the term “oriental” for way too long bc they’re a generally passive people, but now that it’s out in the open that they find this term offensive, it would be racist to know this and say, “That oriental dude needs directions” even if you don’t have malice in your heart. If you didn’t know that word is offensive, that’s where the listening and changing behavior part comes in. I don’t agree with the GotchU! cancel culture. Waiting for someone to say one thing incorrectly so you could pounce and say “canceled!” is toxic and counterproductive to the overall point of learning and understanding each other.But that’s the standard the rest of us are being held to. “Don’t say this, don’t say that, it’s all racist!” *Maybe* you’re not like that, I don’t know, but that’s what’s happening out there. So, hold yourself to the same standard.
lol...i was raised by my single parent mom...when i used to get mad at her i would say that i wished i were born to rich parents---and my mom would say life isn't fair, life is what you make of it, and then she would beat my ass...i love my mom for those ass beatings!!!Exactly. It’s no one’s fault but our own where we end up. I know too many people that saw the cards they were dealt and still won the hand than to buy into the current garbage.
I’m not saying racism isn’t a problem, of course it is. So is money laundering, drugs, medical malpractice...Speaking of that one, how many doctors kill African Americans per year? It’s probably more than 13...
But, those other issues don’t start the same fire.
I see what your saying. I want to counter with something else though that no one ever discusses, except in NA/AA and it’s along the lines of personal responsibility...but at what point am I responsible for how I feel? Thoughts influence our feelings and our feelings influence our actions. So, if I control my thoughts, I can control my feelings and so on. If someone tells me to go f—- myself in an argument, it’s my choice to get upset about it. I can choose to be offended by anything if I want to. That doesn’t make it right. Same with name calling or anything. I just learned today that to be “grandfathered in” is a racist comment. But if that feels offensive and upsets you if someone said it, that’s a choice you made to be offended. I let a couple people anger me on this board before. But you know what? I LET them. I’m responsible for how I felt in that debate/argument. But most of the time, I’m not going to give someone that much power over me and my emotions.This is a reasonable take as long as you’re willing to listen to other groups of people and potentially change your words or behavior. E.g. Asian Americans put up with the term “oriental” for way too long bc they’re a generally passive people, but now that it’s out in the open that they find this term offensive, it would be racist to know this and say, “That oriental dude needs directions” even if you don’t have malice in your heart. If you didn’t know that word is offensive, that’s where the listening and changing behavior part comes in. I don’t agree with the GotchU! cancel culture. Waiting for someone to say one thing incorrectly so you could pounce and say “canceled!” is toxic and counterproductive to the overall point of learning and understanding each other.
I know what you’re saying, but I tend to think of more systemic issues as the major focus. Words or behaviors that hurt a whole group of people. Like if Yupik and Iñupiat people of Alaska continually ask you not to call them Eskimo, it’s reasonable to stop calling them that. It’s a group of people telling you something is offensive. If Chris Cuomo tells you to stop calling him Fredo bc he has an issue with everything in life, I’d say that’s more of a judgement call — you can certainly listen to him and stop, but if you don’t, not too many people are going to get bent out of shape about that one. If all Italians ask, collectively, that you refrain from that or another word, then yeah, that’s when it becomes problematic if you’re stubborn and don’t. I just think it’s more about large-scale social issues.I see what your saying. I want to counter with something else though that no one ever discusses, except in NA/AA and it’s along the lines of personal responsibility...but at what point am I responsible for how I feel? Thoughts influence our feelings and our feelings influence our actions. So, if I control my thoughts, I can control my feelings and so on. If someone tells me to go f—- myself in an argument, it’s my choice to get upset about it. I can choose to be offended by anything if I want to. That doesn’t make it right. Same with name calling or anything. I just learned today that to be “grandfathered in” is a racist comment. But if that feels offensive and upsets you if someone said it, that’s a choice you made to be offended. I let a couple people anger me on this board before. But you know what? I LET them. I’m responsible for how I felt in that debate/argument. But most of the time, I’m not going to give someone that much power over me and my emotions.
all the time smilin in your face when you know they want to take your place-backstabbers...WHAT THEY DO!!!!I know what you’re saying, but I tend to think of more systemic issues as the major focus. Words or behaviors that hurt a whole group of people. Like if Yupik and Iñupiat people of Alaska continually ask you not to call them Eskimo, it’s reasonable to stop calling them that. It’s a group of people telling you something is offensive. If Chris Cuomo tells you to stop calling him Fredo bc he has an issue with everything in life, I’d say that’s more of a judgement call — you can certainly listen to him and stop, but if you don’t, not too many people are going to get bent out of shape about that one. If all Italians ask, collectively, that you refrain from that or another word, then yeah, that’s when it becomes problematic if you’re stubborn and don’t. I just think it’s more about large-scale social issues.
I don’t think either of us are into squabbling about our numbers being off by 4 lives per year. I genuinely think this movement is bogus and is going to continue to hurt everyone significantly. If black Americans still feel they are being mistreated and are disadvantaged, etc, they should focus their efforts on something that might actually make a positive difference, because this movement surely won’t ever be that.If you’re going to cherrypick stats, here’s a collaborative breakdown of crowdsourced and other research. Oh yeah, and they also kindly share The Post’s data (which shies on the conservative side) that literally says 13 black men — not the 9 you mentioned.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5322455002
We can all find articles with some graph that supports whatever it is we want to tell ourselves. Look, it’s clear I’m not changing your mind that black Americans are mistreated at a higher rate than other groups in this country. You also seem impassioned about stymying any racial analysis that appears favorable for black people. It’s a weird hill to die on as a white man, but go ahead. I guess wanting to improve upon the livelihoods of a mistreated group of people means I’m part of the sheep, brainwashed, hate whites and not woke to real facts, as so I’ve been told here. To each his own.
I honestly wish I didn’t watch that video. That’s sickening.Mark my words. Scenarios like this clip from today will become increasingly commonplace thanks to the BLM movement. A movement surrounded by violent undertones will only cause more problems on multiple levels, as we have already seen. Nothing good will come of this for any race.
Hmmm. Interesting how they both want to call the cops!
Honestly, that situation is a little different to me. Just from my 3 minutes of research, I don’t see that quite the same as Timpa. While absolutely a tragedy, I don’t think the officer should be in prison for that.Also look up Justine Damond - white australian woman murdered by black Somalia cop in Minneapolis. Australians were pissed, but didn't riot.
I’m confused about why the black American mother and daughter were on board with calling the police. Given our white privileges, wouldn’t mom be afraid that a white officer would arrive and then judge her by the color of her skin rather than the situation? Haven’t they been afraid to even leave their house for countless years in fear of being a target of police period? After all, this is some of what the protestors are preaching so it must be true.I honestly wish I didn’t watch that video. That’s sickening.
The problem with that is I shouldn’t have to be liable for any damages to my vehicle. We need to be assured that they are then held responsible for for paying the bill. I wouldn’t want my car insurance rate to go up..intrerstate= yielding the RAM in ways it was never meant to be used. srs.. I will run them motha fukas right the fuk over. wont loose sleep about it either.
What charges are the white couple facing? Pulling a gun too soon? I don’t know the laws around guns honestly, but if she felt threatened since they were encroaching and jumping behind her car, what did she do wrong?I’m confused about why the black American mother and daughter were on board with calling the police. Given our white privileges, wouldn’t mom be afraid that a white officer would arrive and then judge her by the color of her skin rather than the situation? Haven’t they been afraid to even leave their house for countless years in fear of being a target of police period? After all, this is some of what the protestors are preaching so it must be true.
Both parties acted like trash, but justice was served and the white couple are facing charges. Sounds like the officer did the right thing as they routinely do. I wonder if mom was/is a supporter of defunding the police?
Apparently it actually happened Wednesday, But the video went viral yesterday. Seems the couple was also charged with felonious assault yesterday.What charges are the white couple facing? Pulling a gun too soon? I don’t know the laws around guns honestly, but if she felt threatened since they were encroaching and jumping behind her car, what did she do wrong?
I guess you are both right, and the couple was being encroached upon in a threatening manner. I guess I was being a little too lenient in my initial interpretation in terms of the actions of the the black mom daughter.probably brandishing a firearm... but cmon.. she's pregnant and felt like she was in danger.
Personal responsibility is lacking in society as a whole - and I think you are pointing out exactly another problem as well. Rather than treat the disease - a lack of responsible adults - we are treating the symptom - supposed racism.Exactly. It’s no one’s fault but our own where we end up. I know too many people that saw the cards they were dealt and still won the hand than to buy into the current garbage.
I’m not saying racism isn’t a problem, of course it is. So is money laundering, drugs, medical malpractice...Speaking of that one, how many doctors kill African Americans per year? It’s probably more than 13...
But, those other issues don’t start the same fire.
I think it is one thing to use BLM as a shield. It is another to use it as a sword. I think we all know what it appears to be in this video. Hard to say because we don't know what set off the confrontation, it sounds like the white woman bumped into the black woman maybe.Mark my words. Scenarios like this clip from today will become increasingly commonplace thanks to the BLM movement. A movement surrounded by violent undertones will only cause more problems on multiple levels, as we have already seen. Nothing good will come of this for any race.
Hmmm. Interesting how they both want to call the cops!
This is the point I was trying to get across before - well said. This movement, in reality, doesn't highlight the need to eliminate the police, it highlights the need to bolster it.I don’t think either of us are into squabbling about our numbers being off by 4 lives per year. I genuinely think this movement is bogus and is going to continue to hurt everyone significantly. If black Americans still feel they are being mistreated and are disadvantaged, etc, they should focus their efforts on something that might actually make a positive difference, because this movement surely won’t ever be that.
One major step in the right direction would be to not focus on racism so much themselves. All too often, simply thinking or feeling something is true makes it turn into a reality in the mind. Especially with racism which is rather abstract and very often not so “black and white“
Playing the “black card” at the drop of a hat has to stop. When black Americans are called out for doing something wrong by all human standards, they have to own up to it and take responsibility rather than diverting. Each time we see this on a public platform, ground is lost in in terms of their integrity.
I am no expert, but this is basically what I've been taught. You never pull a gun unless you intend to use it. If it comes out of the holster, it's going off.now see, if I am being honest... if I am put in the position that I feel I need to draw a firearm, and someone advances on me in a threatening posture, they (white black or brown) are likely getting shot in the face. that's why I cant be a policeman. i dont think i would have the restraint.
Could be worse - in MA we cannot carry mags with more than 10 rounds.That video is exactly what I'm afraid of. If I draw my pistol like ripper said it was my last option and someone's face is melting.
I'm afraid of when they block the interstate. Wtf could you do? I only carry one mag, 15 +,1
Seriously wouldn't say something like this on the internet in this time. This situation is more and more likely to actually occur to you....and if you do it, they will have this line on the internet that may be traceable back to you to use in your prosecution.intrerstate= yielding the RAM in ways it was never meant to be used. srs.. I will run them motha fukas right the fuk over. wont loose sleep about it either.
Honestly, I feel like she was instigated pretty heavily - but she still fugged up. She should have never pulled her weapon. She did the right thing getting in her car and trying to leave. Her life was not in danger, she was being intimidated and all she had to do was take out her cell phone and call the police.What charges are the white couple facing? Pulling a gun too soon? I don’t know the laws around guns honestly, but if she felt threatened since they were encroaching and jumping behind her car, what did she do wrong?
Also - just to add - as Ricky10 said - if they really weren't just being jerks and thought there was racism involved - why would you be on board with calling the cops? Further, why would you stand there in front of a white person with a gun and act all big and bad and tough if it was OK for white people to shoot you with impunity?
Again, if I truly believed that white people were able to get away with, literally, murdering me - I will run from the cops, run from white people with guns, and do everything I can to stay away from that sh*t.
The pregnant woman, however, is lucky that neither of the black women were armed as well - or at least had restraint. Of course, they probably were not armed, because a big unspoken truth about the anti-2A movement is that we don't want black people having guns. Liberals are all about helping black people, but don't want to allow them to be able to defend themselves against all the crime they face.
But just as the black women did not expect the white woman to pull a gun, the white woman could have been equally as surprised if a gun was drawn on her in retaliation - and the white woman would have been to blame for the escalation to that level.
The fact she did not pull and shoot just proves the white woman was not in fear for her life.
It's hard to say without knowing everything that was going on. But keep your guns in your holsters unless you need to kill someone.
This is called brandishing a firearm. YOU CANT DO THIS WITHOUT BEING IN EMENENT DANGER>. not sure i would say they were in that kind of danger but a woman whos pregnant will go to great lengths to protect her unborn child out of instinct.They had the gun in the car, so she likely utilized it more-so as a scare tactic of self defense rather than intentions to fire shots. I do agree that she probably went there too quickly nonetheless.
Gotcha!This is called brandishing a firearm. YOU CANT DO THIS WITHOUT BEING IN EMENENT DANGER>. not sure i would say they were in that kind of danger but a woman whos pregnant will go to great lengths to protect her unborn child out of instinct.
i would give her the benifit of doubt in this case, the second they started to stop them and beat on the car i feel like she was justified.
somehow i get the feeling this whole thing is more about payback than equality.Gotcha!
On another note, the white woman is being called a “Karen” which is a relatively new term to me. Apparently it refers to a white woman who feels or is exhibiting perceived entitlement. Sounds quite racist and sexist to me. Why is it OK for this term to be thrown around while on the other hand, we feel it is necessary to rebrand Aunt Jemima? Such a double standard..
which sux cause im irish.. we had nothing to do with it.somehow i get the feeling this whole thing is more about payback than equality.
Haha..just sit yer cracker a$$ down and take yer lickens!
lol...it's about political affiliation, even black conservatives are under attack.which sux cause im irish.. we had nothing to do with it.
but...but...but-it's conservatives who are violent!!!Haha..
Yeah, I guess I should get used to it! I already feel as though I can’t exercise my own freedom of speech by putting ”All Lives Matter” and “I Support Law Enforcement, Not Criminals” signs on my front lawn.
I looked and they are readily available for purchase on the internet. I so want to do it but I am afraid of being a target...
Afraid to leave my own house
Oh yes, how silly of me to have forgotten! I must be having an off day..but...but...but-it's conservatives who are violent!!!
even the shirts mark dice sells are on notice.. he says you might should not wear them in public right now.. how foOKin sad that [we] collectively let this happen.Haha..
Yeah, I guess I should get used to it! I already feel as though I can’t exercise my own freedom of speech by putting ”All Lives Matter” and “I Support Law Enforcement, Not Criminals” signs on my front lawn.
I looked and they are readily available for purchase on the internet. I so want to do it but I am afraid of being a target...
Afraid to leave my own house
Latest breaking news is that Biden doesn’t actually exist, and is merely a hologram produced by the democrats.biden pretty much said if you are black and aren't a democrat you aint black...to me this sounds really racist coming from a white guy.
I had to look those up, I definitely like them!even the shirts mark dice sells are on notice.. he says you might should not wear them in public right now.. how foOKin sad that [we] collectively let this happen.
i think they have mob alerts on their cell phones...someone sees something that goes against the liberal agenda, takes a pic and the mob is on the way. and these people call conservatives fascists!!!even the shirts mark dice sells are on notice.. he says you might should not wear them in public right now.. how foOKin sad that [we] collectively let this happen.
Yeah, I hate to break it to here...people are just rude, not racist. I get hit with carts once in a while...somewhat rarely because I go through crowded stores with an intensity that makes most people get out of my way if they see me coming. My girlfriend though...she constantly gets run over in stores. It happens to everyone, because rude and stupid people are everywhere. I am all for fighting rudeness and stupidity. Why don't we march on that?Apparently the altercation was a result of the white woman bumping into the black daughter with her cart as she was leaving the store, claiming she was “invading her personal space.” Possibly this could be due to COVID social distancing reasons?
If that was the case, I can understand that to some level. I was in Kohl's the other night (with my mask), and adhering to the 6ft rule- with the 6ft markers on the floor etc. Meanwhile, a mom with 3 kids comes up behind me and while she had a mask on, her kids did not. Her kids proceeded to repeatedly get all up in my personal space while touching everything in sight. I realize 3 young kids are difficult to control in a line, but she could have at least tried to make them step back and/or apologize to me. Nope!
I didn’t say anything because I like to avoid drama and altercations.
Anyway, I do think the relentless tormenting of the black mom and daughter ultimately just pushed the white woman over the edge. They had the gun in the car, so she likely utilized it more-so as a scare tactic of self defense rather than intentions to fire shots. I do agree that she probably went there too quickly nonetheless.
Lol, too funny. Unfortunately for the woman he sexually molested, I think they are pretty sure he is more than a hologram.Latest breaking news is that Biden doesn’t actually exist, and is merely a hologram produced by the democrats.
While it’s notably historical that we have our first ever hologram as a presidential candidate, it also explains his/its inability to effectively process information and articulate it to the public.
Spectacular. However in a very serious question...can we gain back the peace without a war? I figure if these groups are STILL sticking to their "talking points" then they will never back down....and they seem become more violent in a large tantrum to get their way. This is years in the making.Tremendous speech by Trump at Mt Rushmore. Addressing the core values of our nation and the recent disgraceful movements that have derailed us. He signed an executive order that calls for maximum prosecution for anyone who incites violence, illegal activity, defaces federal monuments, memorials, statues etc. This is our first step in gaining back the peace we all deserve. Just in time for the holiday weekend!
I mean, I’d think convincing people to actually wear masks is the fist step to ensuring a return to normalcy, but what do I know. F**k, they didn’t even social distance or wear masks at the speech:Tremendous speech by Trump at Mt Rushmore. Addressing the core values of our nation and the recent disgraceful movements that have derailed us. He signed an executive order that calls for maximum prosecution for anyone who incites violence, illegal activity, defaces federal monuments, memorials, statues etc. This is our first step in gaining back the peace we all deserve. Just in time for the holiday weekend!
Well, despite him hating every minute of what has been happened for months, I think we can all agree that Trump has been rather diplomatic with his response thus far. It’s definitely a sensitive scenario for him to intervene when racial agendas are in the mix, but obviously we have far exceeded a breaking point.Spectacular. However in a very serious question...can we gain back the peace without a war? I figure if these groups are STILL sticking to their "talking points" then they will never back down....and they seem become more violent in a large tantrum to get their way. This is years in the making.
Sure as hell hope we can
Well, I will embrace one step in the right direction at this point. If we can at least downgrade one national crisis, maybe we can get ourselves back to making our best efforts to handle our health crisis. Masks would have been ideal for sure, but I will take what I can get.I mean, I’d think convincing people to actually wear masks is the fist step to ensuring a return to normalcy, but what do I know. F**k, they didn’t even social distance or wear masks at the speech:
Trump Uses Mount Rushmore Speech to Deliver Divisive Culture War Message (Published 2020)
Down in the polls and failing to control a raging pandemic, the president cast himself as waging battle against a “new far-left fascism” that imperils American values and seeks to erase history.www.nytimes.com
Some damn “patriots” who “love their country,” but can’t be a$$ed to wear a mask or social distance to save lives of their fellow countrymen and help get the country back to normal faster.