Exactly. It’s no one’s fault but our own where we end up. I know too many people that saw the cards they were dealt and still won the hand than to buy into the current garbage.
I’m not saying racism isn’t a problem, of course it is. So is money laundering, drugs, medical malpractice...Speaking of that one, how many doctors kill African Americans per year? It’s probably more than 13...
But, those other issues don’t start the same fire.
Personal responsibility is lacking in society as a whole - and I think you are pointing out exactly another problem as well. Rather than treat the disease - a lack of responsible adults - we are treating the symptom - supposed racism.
Your doctor analogy is genius btw. There is some evidence that doctors don't provide the best treatment to black people - and I am sure that kills more people than police each year; why are we not defunding hospitals?
I mean, surely if the logic is sound for the police, it must still be sound for the medical community as well?
What about CHAZ - where their per capital death of black people rivals Chicago. But hey, this is all about defending the black community.
Mark my words. Scenarios like this clip from today will become increasingly commonplace thanks to the BLM movement. A movement surrounded by violent undertones will only cause more problems on multiple levels, as we have already seen. Nothing good will come of this for any race.
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Hmmm. Interesting how they both want to call the cops!
I think it is one thing to use BLM as a shield. It is another to use it as a sword. I think we all know what it appears to be in this video. Hard to say because we don't know what set off the confrontation, it sounds like the white woman bumped into the black woman maybe.
Would these women have acted like that if BLM wasn't all the rage right now? What I see is another BLM-caused black death that almost happened right there.
I don’t think either of us are into squabbling about our numbers being off by 4 lives per year. I genuinely think this movement is bogus and is going to continue to hurt everyone significantly. If black Americans still feel they are being mistreated and are disadvantaged, etc, they should focus their efforts on something that might actually make a positive difference, because this movement surely won’t ever be that.
One major step in the right direction would be to not focus on racism so much themselves. All too often, simply thinking or feeling something is true makes it turn into a reality in the mind. Especially with racism which is rather abstract and very often not so “black and white“
Playing the “black card” at the drop of a hat has to stop. When black Americans are called out for doing something wrong by all human standards, they have to own up to it and take responsibility rather than diverting. Each time we see this on a public platform, ground is lost in in terms of their integrity.
This is the point I was trying to get across before - well said. This movement, in reality, doesn't highlight the need to eliminate the police, it highlights the need to bolster it.
But I do get that a lot of black people have an above-average fear of the police. As a white male, I fear the police. As someone who is not poor, I fear them less than someone who is impoverished. If I was an impoverished person, I would have fewer defenses against mistreatment. If I was black, and had my parents scaring the sh*t out of me about the cops (even Shaq makes these statements to his kids, so I can only imagine what a poor black kid is told) - I would really fear them. And that fear would make me WAY more likely to resist arrest, or do something stupid. I mean, it's all risk/reward - and if I perceive the risk to be much greater than the alternative, I'm no dummy. If I think I'm going straight to jail, do not pass go...with free beatings from the cops who arrested me, a loss of my license and marks that prevent me from working in the future, and I will get an unfair trial where I will be found guilty because of my skin color with no chance to afford an attorney, and then I will get jail time where I may get stabbed or butt-raped....or I could run away and maybe avoid all that??
If that is my belief, how dumb do I have to be to say, "Sure, cuff me, let's roll the dice. I'm sure it will be fine."
But that all gets back to beliefs. I'm not saying those beliefs are never true. I'm just saying they are often exaggerated in the mind of the people who make those decisions. And that should be part of the focus maybe - building that trust somehow.
But while I can appreciate that side of it, I can see that BLM really is not helping the cause. MLK - he helped the cause. He truly sought equality. He truly sought to eliminate prejudice based on the color of someone's skin color. He was not against white people for being white, and didn't blame them all for the actions of some. He saw individuals. And he did it in the 19-friggin-60's. Talk about a tough line to draw in that time.
now see, if I am being honest... if I am put in the position that I feel I need to draw a firearm, and someone advances on me in a threatening posture, they (white black or brown) are likely getting shot in the face. that's why I cant be a policeman. i dont think i would have the restraint.
I am no expert, but this is basically what I've been taught. You never pull a gun unless you intend to use it. If it comes out of the holster, it's going off.
But the other side of that is, you don't draw it in a situation like this - although after seeing the longer video I can understand some things better.
That video is exactly what I'm afraid of. If I draw my pistol like ripper said it was my last option and someone's face is melting.
I'm afraid of when they block the interstate. Wtf could you do? I only carry one mag, 15 +,1
Could be worse - in MA we cannot carry mags with more than 10 rounds.
intrerstate= yielding the RAM in ways it was never meant to be used. srs.. I will run them motha fukas right the fuk over. wont loose sleep about it either.
Seriously wouldn't say something like this on the internet in this time. This situation is more and more likely to actually occur to you....and if you do it, they will have this line on the internet that may be traceable back to you to use in your prosecution.
What charges are the white couple facing? Pulling a gun too soon? I don’t know the laws around guns honestly, but if she felt threatened since they were encroaching and jumping behind her car, what did she do wrong?
Honestly, I feel like she was instigated pretty heavily - but she still fugged up. She should have never pulled her weapon. She did the right thing getting in her car and trying to leave. Her life was not in danger, she was being intimidated and all she had to do was take out her cell phone and call the police.
She got in the car and tried to leave, that was right. They continued to try to escalate the situation, and she was blocked from leaving. At that point she maybe skipped a step and should have called the cops and kept her distance before drawing her weapon. I am sure if she just pulled her cell phone and called the cops, the black women would have probably just walked off.
Having said that, if I were the judge here watching this video, I would probably mandate some firearms training, or possibly pull their license to carry. They just escalated way too quickly. I can see how it happens, it was certainly instigated, but if you can be baited that easily and can't handle someone yelling at you and blocking your car without pulling your pistol, you probably shouldn't be carrying.
