EDIT: just read your reply via rep. Listen, the deal with chuck was that I was simply saying that his claims of it being sufficient for post cycle therapy is false. I spoke up for the fate of whatever noobs read that and then think it would be ok. Its bad enough people already don't follow proper protocol, i've been there and done that, and its something I regret. So we don't need a company rep saying that. The way that some of these products are marketed make them appear to be miracle drugs and safe to use for PCT alone. I am now a firm believer in, if you're going to cycle, cycle properly. I will be a man and apologize for being harsh towards you, I shouldn't take my personal sh*t that I am going through out on here. We are all entitled to our opinions, yes, but there is a place and a time for our opinions. My place and time unfolded earlier in the week and I called chuck out on it, and I got much support in doing so. The time and place for your opinion of all of us did not come yet, and it was unnecessary to say what you did. If you think we're being immature and disrespectful to ourselves and others, read over your statements. You lash out on not only me but everyone else involved in having fun on this thread and others.