NEW Brand coming to AM. Time for some new blood.

N2ofusion said:
Then why the cult following for Excelsior and the endless tracking of batch numbers to get the perfect tub?

But in all seriousness, products like that can’t be used very often. Something like this seems like a much better choice for an every day workout. Trying to get that motivation and focus without exotic stims is always a balancing act so looking forward to trying this one
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That product is laced with amphetamines.
Sure you feel great. Because you just took an amphetamine. Not at all good for bodybuilding though.
Maybe the first few times youll traing harder. Its why they gave it to the nazis. But youll have massive vasoconstriction and eventually loss of appetite and health issues associated with amphetamine use.
 
brundel said:
That product is laced with amphetamines.
Sure you feel great. Because you just took an amphetamine. Not at all good for bodybuilding though.
Maybe the first few times youll traing harder. Its why they gave it to the nazis. But youll have massive vasoconstriction and eventually loss of appetite and health issues associated with amphetamine use.
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Has this actually ever been legitimately confirmed anywhere via lab test?

Asking because I also heard these rumors and did a 13 panel test anytime I used a tub (with every tub) and never popped positive (even on blood lab panel test too).

regardless, excited for your upcoming pre’s and fat burner!
 
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sammpedd88 said:
Any update on the pwo? We’re on edge!
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The first of the new ingredient shipped today to us. I want to wait for it.
We will be test driving it for bout a week once it arrives. Then 2 things will happen.
1. We will go to production of the pre.
2. We will begin volume sales of the new ingredient.
 
brundel said:
The first of the new ingredient shipped today to us. I want to wait for it.
We will be test driving it for bout a week once it arrives. Then 2 things will happen.
1. We will go to production of the pre.
2. We will begin volume sales of the new ingredient.
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Can’t wait man
 
Looking forward to it
 
Black friday sale
and Letrone 2 launch.
35% off and free BLR lifting straps.
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35% Off = Good Deal !
 
N2ofusion said:
How’s the new pre and new ingredient coming along?
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Ideally I would want to wait for the new ingredient to launch the pre but depending on time frame I might release without it first. It would still be exceptional.
The new ingredients initial synthesis didnt go so well. We had to work a few things out and the second batch looks much better. So we should be able to run human testing soon. Maybe a couple weeks.
In the mean time
Letrone 2 is live.
And another update is coming in a week or 2.
 
brundel said:
Ideally I would want to wait for the new ingredient to launch the pre but depending on time frame I might release without it first. It would still be exceptional.
The new ingredients initial synthesis didnt go so well. We had to work a few things out and the second batch looks much better. So we should be able to run human testing soon. Maybe a couple weeks.
In the mean time
Letrone 2 is live.
And another update is coming in a week or 2.
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I hope this turns out as awesome as it sounds !!
 
new pre workout? Cool! when is it being released?

Bought Vector and Androgin they seem to work well !!

Androgin first night on it I slept 15 hours! (first day catching up on sleep from work but still seemed better sleep the subsequent days!)

Ordered the supps from the line now, Han Swolo and Follidrone!
 
StrongNaturalSupps said:
new pre workout? Cool! when is it being released?

Bought Vector and Androgin they seem to work well !!

Androgin first night on it I slept 15 hours! (first day catching up on sleep from work but still seemed better sleep the subsequent days!)

Ordered the supps from the line now, Han Swolo and Follidrone!
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Soon.
 
StrongNaturalSupps said:
new pre workout? Cool! when is it being released?

Bought Vector and Androgin they seem to work well !!

Androgin first night on it I slept 15 hours! (first day catching up on sleep from work but still seemed better sleep the subsequent days!)

Ordered the supps from the line now, Han Swolo and Follidrone!
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Han Swolo doesn’t get enough love for how good it is! Folli is solid just like the rest.
 
Ziyo said:
I get insane pumps and sense of well-being from it but you should be well hydrated and have a nice carb meal prior imo. It’s also anabolic..
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Yah there is not much out there that can give the the pump Han swolo can. Particularly when, like you said, you are well hydrated and have some carbs on board. Godlike pumps. Its also got some other interesting properties like anabolism, antiaging, blood pressure reduction and mood.
 
brundel said:
Yah there is not much out there that can give the the pump Han swolo can. Particularly when, like you said, you are well hydrated and have some carbs on board. Godlike pumps. Its also got some other interesting properties like anabolism, antiaging, blood pressure reduction and mood.
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Sounds Awesome !!
 
Rocket3015 said:
Sounds Awesome !!
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Han Swolo is by far our most underutilized product and its in my opinion one of the best.
I think people just dont recognize the ingredients and they dont see 47 stimulants and they pass on it.
But its the only pre I use. Ever. If I need a kick I add 200mg caffeine powder. If not I dont.
The vasodilation is insane. IN fact one of the ingredients is used by DRs in other countries for vasodilation. This combo puts things like citrulline and agmatine to shame.
 
brundel said:
Han Swolo is by far our most underutilized product and its in my opinion one of the best.
I think people just dont recognize the ingredients and they dont see 47 stimulants and they pass on it.
But its the only pre I use. Ever. If I need a kick I add 200mg caffeine powder. If not I dont.
The vasodilation is insane. IN fact one of the ingredients is used by DRs in other countries for vasodilation. This combo puts things like citrulline and agmatine to shame.
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It really does. Citrulline and Agmatine dont hold a candle to it.
 
brundel said:
No I can absolutely promise you you wont be disappointed.
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I don’t doubt it whatsoever. Everything I have used from y’all I have been pleased with. Just haven’t bought pump products in awhile because I always get good pumps anytime I work out. But lately I’ve been adding some extra hypertrophy, gpp, and and especially super high rep days to get blood flow for healing purposes so the more I think about it the more getting even better pumps and blood flow is something I don’t want to overlook
 
CATdiesel76 said:
I don’t doubt it whatsoever. Everything I have used from y’all I have been pleased with. Just haven’t bought pump products in awhile because I always get good pumps anytime I work out. But lately I’ve been adding some extra hypertrophy, gpp, and and especially super high rep days to get blood flow for healing purposes so the more I think about it the more getting even better pumps and blood flow is something I don’t want to overlook
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Yah blood flow is incredibly important during training. This is why all these super high stim pres are garbage. People just dont know any better. They feel high and think that means its working. Yah...working to constrict your blood vessels. that 4g citrulline isnt gonna do ish againts 700mg stims.
 
brundel said:
Yah blood flow is incredibly important during training. This is why all these super high stim pres are garbage. People just dont know any better. They feel high and think that means its working. Yah...working to constrict your blood vessels. that 4g citrulline isnt gonna do ish againts 700mg stims.
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Exactly . If I stim I low dose but I like My vector as my preworkout .
 
I can't even spell Tic Toc I do eat a good many Tic Tacks
 
Yah Im trying to talk myself into doing videos for our tiktok.
Was thinking about interesting ways to get some good info out there. COuld do all kinds of interesting things.
Im just not a person who uses it at ALL. So I gotta convince myself.
 
I’ve debated trying social media. I’m fairly muscular, I could probably do decently as far as fitness people go. I’ve just never been big on literally any of them. Not a fan.
 
Maybe we should try this.
For anyone using the platform, what kind of content would you want to see from us?
I realize most of us are old school forum users and not tiktok people.
 
brundel said:
Maybe we should try this.
For anyone using the platform, what kind of content would you want to see from us?
I realize most of us are old school forum users and not tiktok people.
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You really have to use short form, attention grabbing things. Save some of the more detailed sciency things until you have more of a following. Other than that showing a lot of physique shots and what not that are visually stimulating. In other words you gotta bro out a bit, or find a way to be opinionated on something without offending all of the easily triggered people on there. Impressive before and afters are always going to be a big hit.
 
MrKleen73 said:
You really have to use short form, attention grabbing things. Save some of the more detailed sciency things until you have more of a following. Other than that showing a lot of physique shots and what not that are visually stimulating. In other words you gotta bro out a bit, or find a way to be opinionated on something without offending all of the easily triggered people on there. Impressive before and afters are always going to be a big hit.
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The first 10 seconds are more important than the next 10’000 !
 
I was excited back on November 23 of 2021… when this thread was started…

Not trying to be rude or a downer but damn. Been legitimately over a year now. A little early to start hype. For the record I love BLR products and continue to use them but even before this hype was started, another thread was started back around 2018/17 (can’t exactly remember) about a new BLR pre workout and after a lot of hype and repeated posts, it never came to fruition. Hope I’m wrong about it this time.
 
brundel said:
The first of the new ingredient shipped today to us. I want to wait for it.
We will be test driving it for bout a week once it arrives. Then 2 things will happen.
1. We will go to production of the pre.
2. We will begin volume sales of the new ingredient.
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Any updates?
 
Sculptor said:
I was excited back on November 23 of 2021… when this thread was started…

Not trying to be rude or a downer but damn. Been legitimately over a year now. A little early to start hype. For the record I love BLR products and continue to use them but even before this hype was started, another thread was started back around 2018/17 (can’t exactly remember) about a new BLR pre workout and after a lot of hype and repeated posts, it never came to fruition. Hope I’m wrong about it this time.
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I hear you on this. Trust me I do. And yah I get excited earlier than I should because we really do put things though alot of testing and if it doesnt work as well as we expect I can it instead of selling it to you. I promise you...nobody else does this.
And, sometimes things change. Stim#1 for example. It is really strong and people in general are stupid. Some jackass will go and take 10 doses and die and Ill get sued.
Stim #2 we didnt see any real stimulation at expected doses but its a beta agonist so it may not act as a CNS stim. For example clen and albuterol. Somewhat stimulating but not like ephedrine or amphetamine etc.
We maybe also didnt go high enough on the doses. We went to 500% of animal doses. Could also be a bioavailability think.
Im willing to reopen testing.

The pre is ready. I was hoping to add our new ingredient but The first batch was gross and didnt react properly. So we have been working on it. The most recent batch has some strange anomaly. Some compound in the mix that we cant identify. And I cant with good conscious give it to people not knowing what the byproduct is or if its toxic etc. So till we iron that out we are in limbo.

Most likely Ill launch the pre in the next month or so without it as itll still be amazing without. And we can add down the line.

Finally we are testing a new fat burner.
Non stimulating. We should be ready to run human testing in a month or so.

Its true things change and I do frequently get ahead of myself but things will come when they are right. Or not at all.
Im not gonna put out a **** pre cause that 9000000000000000000 other companies have already just to take your money. Thats not why I do this.
 
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