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Stim free energy boost

Whacked

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Looking for a STIM FREE supplement (not food) to add to my late afternoon/early evening arsenal.
Im trying to do 2 training periods per day (morning weight evening moderate cardio) as my job is very sedentary (but mentally exhausting).

I come home from work zonked (brain dead). lol

Synephrine (not technically a stim)
B12 from Thermogum: (worried about appetite stimulation. Mine is bad enough as is)

Anything else? :(
 
nattydisaster said:

What dosage?
I like a cit mal+beta alanine mix with some Cordygen v02 + 500mg ALCAR
Bit low on ALCAR dose though. Need thoughts on correct dose
 
I used to run alcar greentea and tyrosine before my 5:00 am shifts. And it helped a lot.
 
Blue gene provides great energy without stims.

Carnitine, carao, catuaba, ginko, cissus, icariin. Its a great matrix for clean energy and hormonal optimization
 
ALCAR or Glucuronolactone.
 
ALCAR is dose dependentant (you need find the dose works on you) for me 5g is perfect
Bacopa Monnieri (standardized to 40% Bacosides) play with the dose
Rhodiola Rosea (15% Rosavins) .......... ;)
 
WOW 5 grams ALCAR?

ALCAR is dose dependentant (you need find the dose works on you) for me 5g is perfect
Bacopa Monnieri (standardized to 40% Bacosides) play with the dose
Rhodiola Rosea (15% Rosavins) .......... ;)

I forgot about Rhodiola thanks ;)
 
Cordyceps. You'll need a 7% or higher extract and finding the right dosage for how many mg of actives to take will be difficult as it is supplement that gets discussed often if at all.
 
Thanks all

PS: no one like Synephrine for a little boost?
 
Thanks all

PS: no one like Synephrine for a little boost?

I do. I love taking in about 90 mg of Syn-30 for a nice boost. I like ALCAR but never noticed an energy boost from it myself. Maybe I need to dose it higher...
 
What are you expecting? There is no non-stim that is going to make you stimulated.

If something makes you stimulated then it is a stim. know what i mean?

Things like ALCAR and adaptogens just give you a clear sense of well being and such
 
Well good point. Just wishful thinking I guess :(

LOL :p
 
Have you tried sulbutiamine?
 
Back in the day yes, it did. I dont recvall it doing much :(
Nice reminder though thank you.

I just may re-visit ;)

Have you tried sulbutiamine?
 
Back in the day yes, it did. I dont recvall it doing much :(
Nice reminder though thank you.

I just may re-visit ;)

No problem man.

I really enjoy 300-400mg.
 
How long does it last for you and what brand are you using?
 
Here is a stack:
Cordygen5
Agmantine
ALCAR
PLCAR
Taurine
L-tyrosine Or just a couple of B complex capsules?
 
ALCAR is more cumulative and mood/focus. I feel PLCAR gives best response and some LCLT for androgenic needs.

Thanks Maxx
 
I am very suprised there has not been one mention of picamilon.If you take 150-300mg of sns picamilon,you will be quite motivated and alert/focused/

doing that several days a week now along with sns Plcar and the results are very good.

I highly suggest picamilon(at that dose) for a non stim boost/pick me up.

can even throw in a cap or two of SNS glucuronolactone for added synergy.
 
ALCAR & green tea. B Vit's

Thanks gymrat827. I totally forgot about the vitamin b I always take. I put a little shot of Liquid Health Stress and Energy in my water bottle. It is a must. This is the only vitamin b I have found that you can actually feel is working. It is also a lot easier on an empty stomach. My secret mix below. Two bottles holds me for 4-5 hours of hard effort on the bike. Note vitamin B and Beta Alanine can really make you feel funny if your not moving. I find that I don't feel that itchy feeling if I'm working out.

I call it the T-train. If I'm drinking it everyone lines up behind me just to hang on.

1 scoop MST RPG
1/2 dose Liquid Health Stress and Energy
3 open caps of Carnage
3 open caps of Athlytes
1/2 bottle of Coconut water. NOT milk
1/2 iso pur protein

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coenzyme q-10
citrulline malate
Beta-alanine
creatine
Alcar
 
rhodiola might give a energy boost but it messes with too many brain chemicals and processes to say it's safe for regular use. Especially it's effects on Monoamine oxidase. I'd use this with big caution. Know what it does and make sure your not taking something that will interact with it.
 
Its a stimulant. U asked for stim free

Is it very stimulating though?

I've tried Australian version of Hydroxycut (Synephrine inplace of Ephedra) and got no stimulation at all. A few other Synephrine based products all with no stim effect.

I ordered a bottle of Methyl-Synephrine though, just out out of curiosity. Just waiting on it now.
 
Is it very stimulating though?

I've tried Australian version of Hydroxycut (Synephrine inplace of Ephedra) and got no stimulation at all. A few other Synephrine based products all with no stim effect.

I ordered a bottle of Methyl-Synephrine though, just out out of curiosity. Just waiting on it now.

That's because neither synephrine nor methylsynephrine can cause central stimulation.

Try caffeine-free focus xt for stimulant free energy
 
That's because neither synephrine nor methylsynephrine can cause central stimulation.

Try caffeine-free focus xt for stimulant free energy

I wish i could say i knew exactly what you meant by "central stimulation" but i can't!!

So if it is a stimulant where does the stimulation happen?

O.T. Really looking forward to experimenting with both the Focus XT's
 
I wish i could say i knew exactly what you meant by "central stimulation" but i can't!!So if it is a stimulant where does the stimulation happen? O.T. Really looking forward to experimenting with both the Focus XT's
It can happen pierpherally (as with synephrine; possible rise in physical energy or appetite suppression) or centrally (psychostimulation).
 
Try the 10 hour energy patches from AgeForce. I use them and get clean feeling energy all day.
 
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Has Rhodiola + Vinpocetine for that mental edge, as well as LCLT + LCF for some serious non-stim energy!
 
Stim free focus xt is a great product!
 
Hemavol + Stim Free Focus XT seems to be one of the best non-stim stacks out right now. Focus XT gives you that extra focus while Compete will give you an endurance boost.
 
Maybe some racetam forms? Neopept is the only one I have tried but it provides me a very noticeable perk in energy and focus.
 
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