ATTN: Users of PES AnaBeta and those interested in AnaBeta

[bird901]

Checked my email again still nothing.

 

[Milas]

How many times will I have to refresh my mail today?

 

[cubsfan815]

This is a nicely written email. I would have never guessed that as the main ingredient. Water chestnuts?
















Oh wait sorry wrong company.. This one is Charlie Sheen Sperm... Some Adonis mixed with tiger blood

 

[jwa254]

This is a nicely written email. I would have never guessed that as the main ingredient. Water chestnuts?
















Oh wait sorry wrong company.. This one is Charlie Sheen Sperm... Some Adonis mixed with tiger blood

but it's Water Chestnut Nitrate hahaha!

But srsly though, where's my damn email natty!?

 

[AE14]

Patience fellas.....it will be out today

 

[cubsfan815]

I need to go back and read what the average time for it to kick in was. I figure after jacking my back up I probably wont be able to lift for a week or 2 anyways

 

[AndrewNico]

this is what happens when natty gets drunk the night before he has to send out important emails

 

[uforce]

I need to go back and read what the average time for it to kick in was. I figure after jacking my back up I probably wont be able to lift for a week or 2 anyways

what does it matter, mang? just buy it and use it when you feel better.

 

[cubsfan815]

I don't wanna wait lol. I feel like kid at Christmas. I am getting married Sept 5th in Cancun. So I had all the timelines laid out, everything planned. Then I had to jack myself up. I figure I'll but it start it right away, and by time its kicking in real good I will be able to lift heavy again.

 

[AtomicFox]

Yea where is that mail?

 

[AtomicFox]

EMAIL RECEIVED Looking forward to 2. EST.

 

[flash89912]

Just another teaser, info on website at 2pm blah blah blah

 

[nattydisaster]

Half of you just got the newsletter, the other half must wait 1 hour

 

[AZMIDLYF]

Gigidy Gigidy

 

[AtomicFox]

Just another teaser, info on website at 2pm blah blah blah

2pm. So 14 hours from now? I live in europe and I really don't get your times

 

[nattydisaster]

7 minutes from now!

 

[AtomicFox]

7 minutes from now!

I sure did miss calculate that then

 

[VaughnTrue]

in for hype/formula!

 

[Cordeen]

Finally:shock:

 

[ICJLM]

Nice write-up, but what exactly is the MOA?

 

[T50]

Just read the write-up, very nice! Even more excited to get my hands on it! Look at this study for more info also, some interesting stuff.

http://www.scipharm.at/download.asp?id=346

 

[nattydisaster]

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/177661-pes-anabeta-revealed.html

 

[Milas]

Nice write-up, but what exactly is the MOA?

Looks like a phyto-anabolic, e.g. a plant extract that mimics testosterone's anabolic and sexual properties, but doesn't display the androgenic properties...

Administration of extract resulted in weight gain in treated animals. Testes and epididymal
weights were also increased significantly, while a moderate but insignificant increase in
prostate weight was also observed. The increase in body and organ weights was
comparable with testosterone (Table 1). Since androgenic effect is attributable to
testosterone levels in the blood, it is likely that the plant extracts may have a role in
testosterone secretion allowing better availability of hormone to gonads [3]. A significant
anabolic effect upon administration of extracts was observable as compared to the control
group, which was comparable to that of the administration of testosterone suggesting a
testosterone type action of the extracts. The experiment clearly suggests anabolic
steroidal effect of A. pyrethrum. The enhancement of sexual activity has been directly
correlated to the enhancement of sexual pleasure. Penile erection index is important for
evaluating the effect of administration of extract on erectile function [18]. The aqueous
extract of A. pyrethrum increased the penile erection of male rats, similar to the increase in
penile erection index observed by administration of testosterone. An increase in PEI was
observed in treated groups, indicating the involvement of nitrous oxide (NO) based
intervention [19].The effect in A. pyrethrum aqueous extract treated group (100 mg/Kg) is
much more pronounced when compared to the administration of testosterone.
Administration of extract (50 and100 mg/Kg b. w.) modified both the orientation as well as
sexual behavior, conclusively suggesting a better sexual performance after administration
of the extracts. This activity was also validated by the histopathological studies on testis
section of various groups. The results thus confirm that, the drug extracts can be useful in
enhancement of overall sexual performance of male rats. Drug also shows prolonged and
sustained effect in overall sexual performance conducted during this study. Sexual desire
may be affected directly by increasing serum testosterone level or by having testosterone
like effect. This may be due to the change in neurotransmitter level or their action in the
cell could also changed sexual behavior [7, 20]. Spermatogenesis involves a complex
interplay between the structural element of testis and the endocrine system [15].

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:cCzrlN__5LIJ:www.scipharm.at/download.asp?id=346+Anacyclus+pyrethrum&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjxHu2fMzDZuq92jen9U4CJF7ZurEYV5DZMcKNRBQvn3ICd06nfR0ZWioHf2xTaW9q5R0P_tBWHu2cHyCD6Z4iQN4L7SOScwCLcuF7i4y10pXvfXnVK-sjmVY5lvIU0cKLMU8CL&sig=AHIEtbSJCwWF0eoESInrS9baN82W1umm6w

 

[nattydisaster]

You are right on the money Milas

 

[Milas]

You are right on the money Milas

 

[ICJLM]

Awesome. Can't wait to buy my bottles!

 

[warsteiner]

Are there likely to be blood pressure issues with this supp? It seems fairly similar to Natadrol and I had to stop taking that after 2 weeks as my bp was rocketing.

 

[RexGrandis]

Will consumption produce any psychological effects such as those associated with testosterone? I.e. mood swings, aggression, etc.

 

[Milas]

I don't think it's that much like Natadrol tbh. Natadrol had much greater androgenic effects, while AnaBeta is anabolic and any androgenic effects would be from increased testosterone, so it would be like a test booster in that regard. It's almost like a phyto-SARM, so side effects should be quite low. Best bet would be to look at the logs, of which I don't think anyone had bp issues.

 

[nattydisaster]

Are there likely to be blood pressure issues with this supp? It seems fairly similar to Natadrol and I had to stop taking that after 2 weeks as my bp was rocketing.

Nothing like natadrol, and none of the initial testers reported BP issues. But always good to keep an eye on it if its a common issue for you

Will consumption produce any psychological effects such as those associated with testosterone? I.e. mood swings, aggression, etc.

Ryansm said it made him be in a better mood. Mood swings and aggression are typically caused by strong androgens, or anabolics with high androgenic activity. The androgenic activity of AnaBeta is very low

 

[Zero Tolerance]

This sort of sounds like Deca.. No? Highly anabolic, low androgenic...

 

[DAdams91982]

This sort of sounds like Deca.. No? Highly anabolic, low androgenic...

Damn... you rise from the dead?

 

[IronManny]

So I've been thinking of adding AnaBeta to my current stack of Shift / Erase/ DAA. You guys think it would cause any issues?

 

[nattydisaster]

None that I could perceive, but I would be interested in how AnaBeta alone would work for you, or AnaBeta and Erase. Only problem with big stacks is you dont know if you really need everything in the stack.

I bet you would be satisfied just with AnaBeta

 

[IronManny]

None that I could perceive, but I would be interested in how AnaBeta alone would work for you, or AnaBeta and Erase. Only problem with big stacks is you dont know if you really need everything in the stack.

I bet you would be satisfied just with AnaBeta

Thanks. I was thinking the same thing. It becomes a bit difficult trying to determine what causes what taking so many supplements.

I just got my Shift & Erase in today, chances are my AnaBeta won't come in for at least another week or so. I've also been curious of trying Just AnaBeta and Erase -- Erase mostly for the anti-cortisol effects.

Maybe I'll try AnaBeta by itself after 4 weeks of Shift / Erase. I'll probably end up taking it as soon as it finds its way to my doorstep though haha.

 

[Zero Tolerance]

Heh! Not really.. I just can't really "lift" like I want to anymore. I'm turning 40 in September and age has certainly not been kind to me. I look like I'm in my early 30s - that's not the problem - but my kidneys don't seem too cool with me eating a high protein diet anymore - and/or heavy lifting. That and my PSA (prostate) score rises every time I use testosterone. It can go up to 7.8 on a fairly heavy cycle and back down to 0.65 while I'm off. Since I'm not having anybody stab at my prostate unless I have to, I'll just stay on the safe side and quit the androgens - which I need for HRT, unfortunately.

So anyway. I've been getting by with light test boosters and lots of light lifting and cardio. I'm going to try AnaBeta to see what it can do for me. If it can increase my sex drive, keep me in "anabolic mode" and be easy on my prostate, I'll make it a part of my life for good, with short breaks in between.

Damn... you rise from the dead?

 

[uforce]

interested to see how this works out for you

 

[Zero Tolerance]

I plan on getting blood work done before and after...

 

[nattydisaster]

Nice! What panels will you be having done?

 

[uforce]

Nice! What panels will you be having done?

you're up late, natty

 

[nattydisaster]

Its a viscous circle (no dane cook reference). Joined a new gym 1 light away from my house compared to 15 minutes away, and $10/month cheaper.

But no one told me that it would be packed full of high school kids all summer until about 9pm. So I have to workout late when I am tired, so I take some jack3d or a shot of clear shot and then dont sleep lol

I should probably move to something with no geranamine...or kick the high schoolers off their machines during the day

 

[uforce]

Its a viscous circle (no dane cook reference). Joined a new gym 1 light away from my house compared to 15 minutes away, and $10/month cheaper.

But no one told me that it would be packed full of high school kids all summer until about 9pm. So I have to workout late when I am tired, so I take some jack3d or a shot of clear shot and then dont sleep lol

I should probably move to something with no geranamine...or kick the high schoolers off their machines during the day

sounds like me, bro. i actually use my high school's gym. 9pm is my start time. and, i feel you on the preworkouts. you really need them to push through, being at the end of the day, when you just want to vegetate. but, then, you can't get to sleep. really sucks. but, it's the only time i can lift, and i'll do what i have to do.

 

[Zero Tolerance]

If I were to start a gym, I'd name it "Expensive Gym". It would cost $100 per month. If it worked the way I'd like it to, I'd have less members (though more happy ones) and I'd make the same as a gym owner that charges $30 per month with too many (unhappy) members and higher maintenance costs...

I stopped working out at gyms because I was tired of having to wait for equipment only to feel rushed to get off when a line formed wherever I was training. The nicer gyms (less diseased) are mad-houses during peak hours. It's just not a good way to work out (for me). I'm sure plenty of others feel the way I do.

I used to train at Gold's Gym in Deer Park in the 90s. It was opened 24 hours a day. I went at 1am (even though I worked a full time day job) and it was only me and some old guy vacuuming the floors. That was the best. The whole gym was mine...

 

[AZMIDLYF]

This is why I set up my home gym. The hours are great and there is no wait.

 

[nattydisaster]

If I were to start a gym, I'd name it "Expensive Gym". It would cost $100 per month. If it worked the way I'd like it to, I'd have less members (though more happy ones) and I'd make the same as a gym owner that charges $30 per month with too many (unhappy) members and higher maintenance costs...

I stopped working out at gyms because I was tired of having to wait for equipment only to feel rushed to get off when a line formed wherever I was training. The nicer gyms (less diseased) are mad-houses during peak hours. It's just not a good way to work out (for me). I'm sure plenty of others feel the way I do.

I used to train at Gold's Gym in Deer Park in the 90s. It was opened 24 hours a day. I went at 1am (even though I worked a full time day job) and it was only me and some old guy vacuuming the floors. That was the best. The whole gym was mine...

Zero's gym:

 

[jtterrible]

Its a viscous circle (no dane cook reference). Joined a new gym 1 light away from my house compared to 15 minutes away, and $10/month cheaper.

But no one told me that it would be packed full of high school kids all summer until about 9pm. So I have to workout late when I am tired, so I take some jack3d or a shot of clear shot and then dont sleep lol

I should probably move to something with no geranamine...or kick the high schoolers off their machines during the day

or you could run a 52 week cycle of anabeta.. get huge and hulk speak at them.. "puny kid.. my bench.. me lift now.. RRAAAARGGGGHH!!"

 

[jcalvert86]

or you could run a 52 week cycle of anabeta.. get huge and hulk speak at them.. "puny kid.. my bench.. me lift now.. RRAAAARGGGGHH!!"

Or.. when they start social hour next to the machine, you hop right in.

I get dirty looks all the time but don't give a ****. Not there to talk for ten minutes between each set.

 

[IronManny]

I've been using creatine for a while and I've been wondering if it's still a good idea to take it while on a stack. Any suggestions?

 

[nattydisaster]

Creatine is a staple in my opinion...I take at least 2500mg every day. So yea

 

[IronManny]

I figured the added water retention might work against some of the supplements that dry/lean you out. I've been hearing mixed views in general about using creatine for body-recomp/cut so it's nice to have some input.

Appreciate it.

Creatine is a staple in my opinion...I take at least 2500mg every day. So yea