SouthernCharm
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Say you're diabetic and pinning your tummy makes you nervous
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SouthernCharm
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or it could always be inj. b12 you know? little boost of energy before your workout lol..
or you could load it, take it in with you, do your thing, right before you start lifting weight go to a stall, pin, wrap the slin pin with a bit of toilet paper and discard it on your way out.
I honestly don't give a f**k. I live right by my gym so it's not an issue to pin like 10 minutes pre workout on my way out the door, but if I lived further I'd take it with me. I'd do something like the stall thing just because youre right people are gonna look at you funny but for the most part most people in there are minding their own doing their own ****, and if ur discreet about discarding what you use then no one will ever know.
one thing you could do is take a cold pack inside a lunch box, with your vial in it, draw in the car, and pin the the locker room. that way it stays cold.
or you could load it, take it in with you, do your thing, right before you start lifting weight go to a stall, pin, wrap the slin pin with a bit of toilet paper and discard it on your way out.
I honestly don't give a f**k. I live right by my gym so it's not an issue to pin like 10 minutes pre workout on my way out the door, but if I lived further I'd take it with me. I'd do something like the stall thing just because youre right people are gonna look at you funny but for the most part most people in there are minding their own doing their own ****, and if ur discreet about discarding what you use then no one will ever know.
one thing you could do is take a cold pack inside a lunch box, with your vial in it, draw in the car, and pin the the locker room. that way it stays cold.
oufinny
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Since I am using AA as my dilution source it shouldn't be an issue in regards to temperature as long as it does not get too hot, right? I need to look into what the amount of AA I need to put in will be, I am thinking doing something like 200mcg 2xday to start, go up if needed. If I go up much higher even 3 5mL vials will go fast and that is not the goal. Ideally I want to run this complete while on the good stuff as my body will be prime to burn fat already. I can surely load the syringes up and then bring them with, that is the easiest way to go then hit myself in the bathroom at the gym or in the car. No one will see.
RickRock13
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No more messing around, the DMZ has began. Going to take 30 mg today and for the next 3 weeks. Unless there is a need to, I will not go up to 45 mg. Man I am excited and the fact it is still carb up day add to the excitement.
Lets get this show on the road!!
Let the gains begin! DMZ should be fun
SouthernCharm
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chhhhyyeeeahhhhh
RickRock13
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And so the real fun begins...:afro:
oufinny
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Must be why I woke up and decided to go shoot my rifle this morning... it felt VERY ALPHA! I am already hungry so 30 mg off the bat has me rocking!
Getting my diet together now, going to do the "bulking" version of the UD2.0 but I am going to run it at about 20% under maintenance then do the standard carb up on Th/Fr. Workouts will be the outlined depletion style from it and I will do all it says for each day. I am no expert so I am going trust in this.
Time to do some calculations on calories based on a 200 pound person and get all my meals planned out. 5 pounds of ground beef are getting ready to be cooked today as well.
DreamWeaver
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I still have 2 weeks before I start my madness.... yah it will get much craziier..
oufinny
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This is the first day of UD2.0 and I weighed in at 204 this AM. Keep in mind I threw down about 1000 grams of carbs this weekend and am a little spilled over so I am in reality about 201. I look pretty huge in the mirror, now we shall see how this depletion workout goes today, it will most likely be a brutal battle of wits. I am going to do exactly as is lined out in the UD2.0 book, basically a full body routine that you do twice through. I am going to keep rest periods to 1 minute and weight are going to be about 60% of 1 RM to allow for 12-15 reps. I am not going to lie, I am seriously worried this will be the equalizer as I have not been doing higher rep work for at least 6 weeks. At least they have puke buckets in the dungeon I train in!!!
Just checked, my AA is going to be in today so I might be able to get in my LR3 today with my post workout meal... we shall see. If not my GH frag will be here as well and I can get that ready. I am going to dose that first thing in the AM and before bed, 250 mcg each to start.
Just checked, my AA is going to be in today so I might be able to get in my LR3 today with my post workout meal... we shall see. If not my GH frag will be here as well and I can get that ready. I am going to dose that first thing in the AM and before bed, 250 mcg each to start.
oufinny
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So no sides to speak of from the DMZ yet though the lack of caffeine is giving me a lingering headache. To combat this I am sipping on some coffee and it is helping. I highly doubt this is BP related as I get a tingling feeling in my head when it spikes and that is not present now. Drinking a Tom of water and muscles are feeling more dense, could be the extra carve as well. 2.5 hours until the workout from hell...
RickRock13
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oufinny
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I am drinking water like a crazy mofo trust me. Tried out the research on the rat today, all is well. GH is on board, going to bring some with me to the workout tomorrow, and dose it before bed as well. I need some more AA, I thought I got two bottles of 30mL, instead it was 3mL, damn site had it mislabled.
oufinny
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I just want to start with 6:20 in the AM injections aren't fun... but alas they will get easier each time I am sure. And I want to finish with this, Lyle McDonald, you sir are a jacka**! My legs are TRASHED! I will say that in the mirror this morning my chest is looking rather full and the fat I hold there and on my upper lats is definitely dropping quickly, must be the T3 
. This morning I felt surprisingly refreshed less the DOMS, the GH definitely led to some DEEP sleep.
Even though I tried the IGF last night, it is getting side lined for a few weeks, will start it when I begin the bridge to Epi in week 3. That way it will carry over into PCT and help with maintaining gains. Also, I will focus most of the dosing on my higher carb days and shoot for 4 times per weeks as I hear 3-4 is all you need with the LR3 version, twice per day injections.
. This morning I felt surprisingly refreshed less the DOMS, the GH definitely led to some DEEP sleep. Even though I tried the IGF last night, it is getting side lined for a few weeks, will start it when I begin the bridge to Epi in week 3. That way it will carry over into PCT and help with maintaining gains. Also, I will focus most of the dosing on my higher carb days and shoot for 4 times per weeks as I hear 3-4 is all you need with the LR3 version, twice per day injections.
VolcomX311
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I just want to start with 6:20 in the AM injections aren't fun... but alas they will get easier each time I am sure. And I want to finish with this, Lyle McDonald, you sir are a jacka**! My legs are TRASHED! I will say that in the mirror this morning my chest is looking rather full and the fat I hold there and on my upper lats is definitely dropping quickly, must be the T3
Even though I tried the IGF last night, it is getting side lined for a few weeks, will start it when I begin the bridge to Epi in week 3. That way it will carry over into PCT and help with maintaining gains. Also, I will focus most of the dosing on my higher carb days and shoot for 4 times per weeks as I hear 3-4 is all you need with the LR3 version, twice per day injections.
Your supplements make me feel like an amateur.
oufinny
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Much obliged, it took a lot of time and money to get this run together and trust me, I am an amateur playing in the big leagues. :afro:
SouthernCharm
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i can tell you your headaches ARE probably blood pressure related. water, fish oil and some hawthorn or grape seed. Caffeine or any other stimulant will only make this worse. jmo
sucks about the amount of AA you got. f**king bastards lol
sucks about the amount of AA you got. f**king bastards lol
DreamWeaver
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I should have mentiioned that cuz when I went to the site it said 3 and I thought is that enough ? diddn't mention it .. should have... i gut 2 5ml so I have just enough for 2 ml AA for 1 mg of DES the bottles are all 2 ml bottles so that is good. Are you going to dilute it further or just AA....?
SouthernCharm
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hell you can find it for like 1/2, 1/3 or even 1/4 of the price depending where you look
DreamWeaver
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Actually des was cheaper at 49.99 and witht he bogo it was a hek of a deal...
oufinny
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Maybe they are but when you go from about 500-600 mgs of caffeine to none, that plays a big role. I may have 1 cup throughout the day now and it is keeping them at bay, today it diminished a lot and is not that pronounced. I am taking my CS2.0 and 1300 extra mg of hawthorne on top of that. ~15 fish oil a day should be enough don't you think
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oufinny
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I hear you can but that is just more to inject and the more that goes in, the less comfortable it will be... AA is 99.4% water, how much more diluted does it need to get? I am not subscribing to this extra dilution argument.
DreamWeaver
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Good cuz I wasn't very keen on it either...
oufinny
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Mental note to all, don't inject GH into front of shoulder where all the tendons are... it hurts! Aim for the delt genious! :aargh: Yeah that was fun at 6:20 this morning, not going to make that mistake again.
Yesterday's workout was rough but I think for day 2 of depletion work, I crushed it. I actually am thinking about going up in weight already, thank you DMZ! I also looked pretty shredded yesterday mid workout when I had a pump, they last about 5 minutes on low carbs no matter what I do.
Ok, as for the BP issue that continues. I got some grape seed and am taking 2 AM, 2 early PM, 2 before bed and doing the same with the Hawthorne. So far that is not making much of a dent in it though I feel a little better this morning, any suggestions? I need to check it I know so I can see how high it is but either way, I need to get it back down to a normal range and fast.
DreamWeaver
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Yah I would avoid the front delt anyway as mine are overdeveloped due to front delting it on bench for so many years...
MrKleen73
Legend
Also remember the biggest importance with blood pressure is the difference between the bottom and top number. If not over 70 points difference even with being high you are not at any increased danger for stroking or anything. It is the massive fluctuations that blow out the weak spots in the arteries and veins.
I bet you are going to explode man.
I bet you are going to explode man.
oufinny
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I am going to check it today, we have a cuff in the office I can use to see where I am at. I do feel a little better today than yesterday, maybe the increased hawthorne and grape seed are starting to work. THe risk of stroke/heart attack is not my concern, it is just midly uncomfortable all day long, it gets old fast. Anyways, I am eating my lunch now and staring at a mound of mixed vegetables and a salad... makes the two 90/10 burgers look so sad and small. CANNOT WAIT until Thursday night, I am going to chow the f down! I am going to pick up some sugar cereal for Friday breakfast as well... mouth is salivating just thinking about it. The rest of the day will be rough though I am sure. Lots of protein powder and probably only 2-3 solid protein feedings for simplicity sake.
oufinny
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Starting weight = 200. Day 5 after 2 depletion workouts and TONS of water = 203.5. Can you say blow up a little louder please
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Starting weight = 200. Day 5 after 2 depletion workouts and TONS of water = 203.5. Can you say blow up a little louder please
I'm here, Fin! Sorry I'm late to the party! I'd love to run some of those peptides, but alas, I'm still on IGF-1 (and I must say, I have no complaints). I need to get with some of you guys; the site I buy my IGF from comes ready-to-go in AA. I don't know SQUAT about mixing them in BW; and that's what not only scares me, but keeps me from purchasing them; I don't want to mess it up. Also, a friend of mine wants to give me a box of pins (short needles, only .5 inch). I guess I'd better take those!
Kleen, where the hell ya been?
oufinny
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I don't buy mine pre-mixed and if you do, there is no reason to further dilute a solution that is already 99.4% water, 0.6% AA as yours are. Some may argue otherwise but what are you going to get from further dilution except more fluid to inject. I frankly like that I do 5iu of GH frag for my full dose, it is quick, very little pain (outside of the morning screw up) and leaves no skin mark where I injected. If you want to know where I got mine, a legit place no doubt, PM me (Kleen, DW and I are all going to the same place). Thanks for stopping by! I used .5" pins and they work just fine.
oufinny
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I have a bruise to prove it too... the last two GH frag injects have been fine though and apparently it is working, I am looking WAY leaner in the midsection. I am starting to see the tops of my abs and if this continues I could see a 4 or 6 pack in my future by the end of the run.
Hit up some cardio this morning and had a pre workout of GH frag... just not the same as a scoop of Jack3d (my preferred pre cardio drink). I did about 27 minutes on the treadmill, speed 3 with incline 6. I was sweating pretty good and actually was surprisingly awake with no stimulation. Today is the last low carb day for the next three and I am so ready to eat carbs, I am weak, flat, tired and have a HARD workout to do tonight as well. At least I get 30 grams of carbs pre-workout so I am looking forward to some nice pumps then the carb fest is on.
Here is my plan for the carb load:
Post workout - 200 grams carbs / 50 whey isolate
2 hours later - 3 cups whole wheat pasta with low fat sauce, 8 ounces of chili
Pre-bed - Protein shake, 1 banana, 2 bagels
First thing AM - 3 heeping cups of Frosted Mini Wheats
and skim milk, 6 egg whitesThe rest of the meals I am have planned but I really don't feel like typing them out. It will be about 1400-1550 grams of carbs, depends on how much I can stuff in. I will also be throwing in some Sierra Mist (no caffeine) with every other meal as it is an easy source of quick carbs. Last meal of the day on Friday will be around 8 or 9. I will taper the carbs down some on the last few meals and I will be using Recompadrol throughout the day, probably take 6 or so (one per meal or I will be crapping myself in my chair). Most of my protein on Friday will be powder sources (whey isolate) but I have three whole food feedings in there as well.
So I am back on clenviscerate today but will be off of it again until Saturday as Lyle states it is not good on refeed days. If I do 2 on/2 off it seems to work better for me, less burning from the clen as my mixture is a bit strong.
Oh, and thought you might want to know this... weight is 205!
DreamWeaver
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I have a bruise to prove it too... the last two GH frag injects have been fine though and apparently it is working, I am looking WAY leaner in the midsection. I am starting to see the tops of my abs and if this continues I could see a 4 or 6 pack in my future by the end of the run.
Hit up some cardio this morning and had a pre workout of GH frag... just not the same as a scoop of Jack3d (my preferred pre cardio drink). I did about 27 minutes on the treadmill, speed 3 with incline 6. I was sweating pretty good and actually was surprisingly awake with no stimulation. Today is the last low carb day for the next three and I am so ready to eat carbs, I am weak, flat, tired and have a HARD workout to do tonight as well. At least I get 30 grams of carbs pre-workout so I am looking forward to some nice pumps then the carb fest is on.
Here is my plan for the carb load:
Post workout - 200 grams carbs / 50 whey isolate
2 hours later - 3 cups whole wheat pasta with low fat sauce, 8 ounces of chili
Pre-bed - Protein shake, 1 banana, 2 bagels
First thing AM - 3 heeping cups of Frosted Mini Wheats
The rest of the meals I am have planned but I really don't feel like typing them out. It will be about 1400-1550 grams of carbs, depends on how much I can stuff in. I will also be throwing in some Sierra Mist (no caffeine) with every other meal as it is an easy source of quick carbs. Last meal of the day on Friday will be around 8 or 9. I will taper the carbs down some on the last few meals and I will be using Recompadrol throughout the day, probably take 6 or so (one per meal or I will be crapping myself in my chair). Most of my protein on Friday will be powder sources (whey isolate) but I have three whole food feedings in there as well.
So I am back on clenviscerate today but will be off of it again until Saturday as Lyle states it is not good on refeed days. If I do 2 on/2 off it seems to work better for me, less burning from the clen as my mixture is a bit strong.
Oh, and thought you might want to know this... weight is 205!
Will be much higher when you get those carbs in you....:mischievous:
VolcomX311
Legend
I have a bruise to prove it too... the last two GH frag injects have been fine though and apparently it is working, I am looking WAY leaner in the midsection. I am starting to see the tops of my abs and if this continues I could see a 4 or 6 pack in my future by the end of the run.
Hit up some cardio this morning and had a pre workout of GH frag... just not the same as a scoop of Jack3d (my preferred pre cardio drink). I did about 27 minutes on the treadmill, speed 3 with incline 6. I was sweating pretty good and actually was surprisingly awake with no stimulation. Today is the last low carb day for the next three and I am so ready to eat carbs, I am weak, flat, tired and have a HARD workout to do tonight as well. At least I get 30 grams of carbs pre-workout so I am looking forward to some nice pumps then the carb fest is on.
Here is my plan for the carb load:
Post workout - 200 grams carbs / 50 whey isolate
2 hours later - 3 cups whole wheat pasta with low fat sauce, 8 ounces of chili
Pre-bed - Protein shake, 1 banana, 2 bagels
First thing AM - 3 heeping cups of Frosted Mini Wheats
The rest of the meals I am have planned but I really don't feel like typing them out. It will be about 1400-1550 grams of carbs, depends on how much I can stuff in. I will also be throwing in some Sierra Mist (no caffeine) with every other meal as it is an easy source of quick carbs. Last meal of the day on Friday will be around 8 or 9. I will taper the carbs down some on the last few meals and I will be using Recompadrol throughout the day, probably take 6 or so (one per meal or I will be crapping myself in my chair). Most of my protein on Friday will be powder sources (whey isolate) but I have three whole food feedings in there as well.
So I am back on clenviscerate today but will be off of it again until Saturday as Lyle states it is not good on refeed days. If I do 2 on/2 off it seems to work better for me, less burning from the clen as my mixture is a bit strong.
Oh, and thought you might want to know this... weight is 205!
Are you cutting, bulking or recomping? Is that 205 a weight gain or loss? Either way, great job Finny!! Keep kick'n ass.
oufinny
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It will amount to a recomp with bulk like gains. I am cutting a lot of fat for sure and adding mass thanks to the anabolics and peptides, it falls under that new category of a bulking recomp. :friday: I am up 5 pounds from Saturday when I started and am way depleted on carbs so 205 is a legit weight for me in regards to real mass not water weight.
fade202003
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Nice work man! Sorry about the learning experience. I am jotting that one down for sure!
VolcomX311
Legend
Tha'ts pretty facking sweet. I like your new category, bulking recomp. You the mayne.
oufinny
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That is why the Ultimate Diet 2.0 is so ultimate, it allows you to cut a ton of fat and add mass. It is all about partitioning, managing leptin levels and glycogen depletion and supersaturation. Long story short, it's a beotch but allows you to do some pretty impressive things if you get it right and with DS/AAS in the mix, it really shines.
VolcomX311
Legend
Bulking while losing fat, whilst not cutting, while eating for gain, but not gaining fat with the muscle, while more then replacing bad weight with good weight, but gaining a hyper-amount of good weight..... black & white if you ask me.
VolcomX311
Legend
That or what I said, either or.