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How much do you clean DW? From hang or off the ground?

I can do around 185 for 5 which is not that good but it's my technique. I am just bad at exercises that require speed... Kris was in the high 200's ... Plus I can't clean a lot cuz my traps get way to big, makes my shoulders look too narrow as I don't have the bone structure of my son. You'll notice that his traps are big too but he has extreemly wide shoulders...
 
I can do around 185 for 5 which is not that good but it's my technique. I am just bad at exercises that require speed... Kris was in the high 200's ... Plus I can't clean a lot cuz my traps get way to big, makes my shoulders look too narrow as I don't have the bone structure of my son. You'll notice that his traps are big too but he has extreemly wide shoulders...

Ha, your traps get too big, that's a problem I wished I had!
 
I don't know if you're the same way, Sam, but I've found that my OHPs are way better if I clean the bar from the floor for my setup, rather than unracking the bar from high forks directly onto my shoulders.

I've actually never tried a clean and OHP. If I do anything after the clean it's always been a Jerk. I can give that a try, but that sounds awfully tiring! That being said, being that I'm cutting, the extra caloric expenditure wouldn't hurt.
 
AM Cardio: Treadmill; Incline 10; 1min:1min walk/run HIIT for 20 min

I can already tell my cardio-fitness is improving. I actually feel refreshed after my cardio this morning instead of like a zombie, dragging around and overwhelmed with fatigue. Also, 4lbs down, but as I mentioned before, historically, I can lose up to 7lbs in the first 10 days, primarily from a water/glycogen depletion effect from the sudden onset of cardio and dieting down. Of the 4lbs, I'm presuming .5-1lb is actual adipose. After 10 days, I'll start dropping 1-3lbs a week like everybody else.

I wanted to take a rest day from lifting and just hit cardio again tonight, but my calves are flaring from the incline HIIT. I had trouble walking into work this morning. We'll see and feel free to let me know if I'm over doing something, because I'm extremely prone to getting obsessively, excessive in certain elements when I'm truly committed to a cut and its probably my muscles that pay for it, not my fat.
 
Dried seawead??......................


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I think i just threw up in my mouth a little....
 
Dried seawead??......................


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I think i just threw up in my mouth a little....

Lol, its actually kind of tasty, just not very satiating. As a kid, they were a "treat."

Nah man, it's yummy. And really good for you! :food:

I've heard seaweed has a host of good for you stuff in it, I'm just not aware of what it is, but yes, very tasty.

Well heck, I'll have to try it then. Just doesn't sound too good. Where can I get it?

99 Ranch or some other form of an Asian market.
 
Ya it is some interesting stuff. Have u tried dried squid?


Look for it at an Asian market/store if u have one nearby.

Fan of the dried squid Asian markets are a good place to go for healthy snacks. Thanks for bringing that up, you reminded me of an acceptable snack I can go pick up.
 
My quads, hams and especially my calves are roasted. I've done double cardio everyday this week and this mornings incline HIIT about killed my legs. I'll probably have to sub out morning cardio for an AM lift and PM lift, no more cardio until my legs recover. I can tell my feet and calves are on the verge of straining, so 2 days off at the most vs a week off from muscle strains.
 
I might need to buy some of this stuff just to take a picture and show you guys, but this place I know sells "CANDIED BABY CRAB" its literally a whole baby crab, shell, legs, body, pinchers & all, but cooked whole and coated in sugar and sesame and you pop the whole thing in your whole and enjoy.
 
I get it at Kroger.

Tom, yes, I've had dried squid. The kind I had was terribly salty. Don't know if it's always like that.

you haven't had jerky until you've had sweet pork jerky, my gawd its good and my gawd its got a lot of fat for a jerky.
 
Day 5

This isn't Day 5. I thought I wrote Day 4 and I guess I wrote day 5.

AM Cardio: Treadmill; Incline 10; 1min:1min walk/run HIIT for 20 min

PM Cardio: 30 min Stairclimber

No cardio tomorrow, I don't think, but double workout, AM Chest and PM Back is the plan, which means I'll be starving the next day!
 
Man, that sounds tasty - I've tried a fair bit of Asian fair, but never that.

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It's really, really good. Sweet pork jerky; very sweet & savory, not at all lean like western jerky's though, but the bite is much softer and much more moist.
 
Sweet pork jerky sounds yummy......:yumyum:
 
THE TRULY PRECIOUS ORE


Gold is for the mistress-Silver for the maid.
Copper for the craftsman cunning at his trade.
"Good!", said the Baron, sitting in his hall,
But Iron-COLD IRON-is master of them all."
 
THE TRULY PRECIOUS ORE


Gold is for the mistress-Silver for the maid.
Copper for the craftsman cunning at his trade.
"Good!", said the Baron, sitting in his hall,
But Iron-COLD IRON-is master of them all."


Great Quote:goodpost:
 
Day 5

AM Cardio: Treadmill, incline 10, 1min:1min walk/run HIIT for 20 min.

I tried to get ambitious and lift right after this to try and get an AM and PM lift in, but my sugars were zapped and when I had trouble hitting just 6 reps of my warm up weight on incline bench, I knew it was best to get some food in me and lift later tonight with the boys. PM Back scheduled, cardio is TBD.
 
i'm going have to check this stuff out

You really, really should. It's a moist jerky as you can see with the oil seeping from it. All flavor, but plenty O'fat as you would expect from something all flavor (and sugar coated; swine and sweeteners go well together).

Sweet pork jerky sounds yummy......:yumyum:

yes, sir. Put that on the bucket list of things to try.

THE TRULY PRECIOUS ORE


Gold is for the mistress-Silver for the maid.
Copper for the craftsman cunning at his trade.
"Good!", said the Baron, sitting in his hall,
But Iron-COLD IRON-is master of them all."

Great Quote:goodpost:

Yeah, its hard to pull off poetic and hard at the sametime, I like it.
 
Volcom u r going to make me have to go eat Korean soon lol or atleast go to the Korean store and just browse thinking about how tasty it is.
 
Volcom u r going to make me have to go eat Korean soon lol or atleast go to the Korean store and just browse thinking about how tasty it is.

Korean BBQ is one of my all time favorites. Thai food is up there, too. I like Japanese Sushi, but I'm more about savory, meaty meals, like Korean BBQ.... ugh.....[eats more dried seaweed]
 
AM Cardio: Treadmill, incline 10, 1min:1min walk/run HIIT for 20 min.

I tried to get ambitious and lift right after this to try and get an AM and PM lift in, but my sugars were zapped and when I had trouble hitting just 6 reps of my warm up weight on incline bench, I knew it was best to get some food in me and lift later tonight with the boys. PM Back scheduled, cardio is TBD.

If you want a morning and evening training session while doing the HIIT in morning also do the weights first and follow up with HIIT.

Also unless conditioning is your main goal make sure not to go overboard on hit especially in the beginning. It is a great tool later on to remove stubborn fat. No need to start with the big guns when moderate intensity interval training, or low intensity SS cardio would do the trick without inducing any catabolism. However a caveat to this is that I firmly believe that HIIT with BCAA's if intensity is actually high enough to truly qualify as HIIT is going to also be an anabolic event due to the intensity of the contractions and explosiveness. Trust me a sprint is an anabolic event... treat it as such by supplying the aminos and you will have bigger more separated legs in the end.
 
I need to send you some Chamorro recipes. I make a beef and coconut as well as beef and cabbage dish that is wicked. Loaded protein with low fat and low carb. I haven't ever tried Korean meals, would like too though.
 
If you want a morning and evening training session while doing the HIIT in morning also do the weights first and follow up with HIIT.

Also unless conditioning is your main goal make sure not to go overboard on hit especially in the beginning. It is a great tool later on to remove stubborn fat. No need to start with the big guns when moderate intensity interval training, or low intensity SS cardio would do the trick without inducing any catabolism. However a caveat to this is that I firmly believe that HIIT with BCAA's if intensity is actually high enough to truly qualify as HIIT is going to also be an anabolic event due to the intensity of the contractions and explosiveness. Trust me a sprint is an anabolic event... treat it as such by supplying the aminos and you will have bigger more separated legs in the end.

My HIIT is only true HIIT when I do it on the field. The Treadmill HIIT gets my HR in the right pace, but I can't full on sprint on a treadmill, so I put it on incline 10 so I can run at a slower pace, but get the same HR exertion.

I agree that true sprinting is anabolic. Post sprinting bouts, your muscle become insulin sensitive just as it would post a lifting session.

I'll be backing off from the cardio a bit. I more so do this upfront cardio blast to establish some discipline and to mentally establish myself as both feet into a cut. It's a laying foundation of a mindset thing. I agree cardio can become detrimental to muscle if overdone and I'll be pulling back a bit once I feel I've established some solid discipline. Also, losing the initial water and glycogen stores quickly is a good jump off motivator. It's all a mindset thing for me in the beginning.

I'll tell you what though, I'm hungry as hell these days!
 
I need to send you some Chamorro recipes. I make a beef and coconut as well as beef and cabbage dish that is wicked. Loaded protein with low fat and low carb. I haven't ever tried Korean meals, would like too though.

Korean BBQ is outrageous and I love cooking with cabbage, i may need that recipe when I start to cut out more carbs.
 
I bet you are. Yeah even that 10 MPH is anaerobic burning carbs up like nobodies business. YOu will still get the insulin sensitivity effect from that type of training. Not as much damage to repair but workload wise enough to cause the Glut4 uptake reaction in the muscle.
 
I bet you are. Yeah even that 10 MPH is anaerobic burning carbs up like nobodies business. YOu will still get the insulin sensitivity effect from that type of training. Not as much damage to repair but workload wise enough to cause the Glut4 uptake reaction in the muscle.

After true HIIT on the field, I like to get protein in my system quickly, just as I do post lift.
 
I am not completely sold on HITT I like it more but I am still ify about how muscle sparing it is. It's definitely less boring. What I might do is keep my core cardio longer sessions to moderate and use HITT for very short 20 minute periods with BCAA's
 
I am not completely sold on HITT I like it more but I am still ify about how muscle sparing it is. It's definitely less boring. What I might do is keep my core cardio longer sessions to moderate and use HITT for very short 20 minute periods with BCAA's

Just to play devil’s advocate and not because I’ve drank the HIIT Kool-Aid, so I won’t regurgitate any Wikipedia HIIT defenses, but try and express my own stance on the muscle sparing of HIIT vs traditional cardio from my own understanding of physiology. Much of what I say you’ll already know, so it’ll be easy to follow.

Our body’s number priority in any kind of stressor we undergo is to be proficient at such stressor, because efficacy ultimately leads to self preservation. The body perceives stress as something that must be overcome. For example, the biological purpose your chest grows in response to a heavy bench press is to preserve the heart & lungs. Cause and purpose are different, motor unit recruitment, muscle hypertrophy, sarcolemic hypertrophy are causes, but the purpose of this biological function is to guard the thoracic region from being crushed in by the perceived stress of a heavy bench press. The purpose of muscle growth is to protect the body in some fashion, whether it be joints or organs, it’s a self preservation issue and therefore, proficiency at responding to stressors.

In traditional cardio, or jogging, the way the body becomes proficient at handling the stress of jogging ie.. Protecting the joints of the lower extremities, relieving the efforts of the Heart & Lungs to compensate for the energy, oxygen, nutrient demands of such stress, is to relinquish weight. Muscle is the heaviest weights we carry around, so although jogging burns fat for fuel, our bodies also enjoy relieving the luggage that outweighs fat, which is muscle.

All that being said, this pertains primarily to physically jogging on the street or field where joints are stressed. Static cardio on a stairclimber, much, much less catabolic, or a spin bike, something less impacting on joints, therefore, less stress, therefore, less of a reason to relinquish heavy baggage for proficiency and self preservation.

HIIT are only a few seconds burst and the duration is generally much shorter, so heavy baggage is less of a factor. Now, THAT being said, I can’t quantify X amount of traditional cardio = to X amount of HIIT in terms of physical stress. I’m not really trying to sell you on the idea, as much as sharing where I can see how this muscle sparring business can be reasoned.
 
Just to play devil’s advocate and not because I’ve drank the HIIT Kool-Aid, so I won’t regurgitate any Wikipedia HIIT defenses, but try and express my own stance on the muscle sparing of HIIT vs traditional cardio from my own understanding of physiology. Much of what I say you’ll already know, so it’ll be easy to follow.

Our body’s number priority in any kind of stressor we undergo is to be proficient at such stressor, because efficacy ultimately leads to self preservation. The body perceives stress as something that must be overcome. For example, the biological purpose your chest grows in response to a heavy bench press is to preserve the heart & lungs. Cause and purpose are different, motor unit recruitment, muscle hypertrophy, sarcolemic hypertrophy are causes, but the purpose of this biological function is to guard the thoracic region from being crushed in by the perceived stress of a heavy bench press. The purpose of muscle growth is to protect the body in some fashion, whether it be joints or organs, it’s a self preservation issue and therefore, proficiency at responding to stressors.

In traditional cardio, or jogging, the way the body becomes proficient at handling the stress of jogging ie.. Protecting the joints of the lower extremities, relieving the efforts of the Heart & Lungs to compensate for the energy, oxygen, nutrient demands of such stress, is to relinquish weight. Muscle is the heaviest weights we carry around, so although jogging burns fat for fuel, our bodies also enjoy relieving the luggage that outweighs fat, which is muscle.

All that being said, this pertains primarily to physically jogging on the street or field where joints are stressed. Static cardio on a stairclimber, much, much less catabolic, or a spin bike, something less impacting on joints, therefore, less stress, therefore, less of a reason to relinquish heavy baggage for proficiency and self preservation.

HIIT are only a few seconds burst and the duration is generally much shorter, so heavy baggage is less of a factor. Now, THAT being said, I can’t quantify X amount of traditional cardio = to X amount of HIIT in terms of physical stress. I’m not really trying to sell you on the idea, as much as sharing where I can see how this muscle sparring business can be reasoned.

I know jogging is a bad idea for us and muscle sparing but there is no stress when on an eliptical on the joints. I just suspect HITT as part of my problem last year. I may have used too long of sessions. The only time there is stress on the joints on eliptical though is when doing HITT moderate does not cause much stress. I still think you have to used a bit of both but the ratio and duration I will play with.
 
I just revisted some old school bodybuilders and I felt the need to bring Tom Platz's wheels in this bish. For the most part, today's pro bodybuilders kill Golden Years bodybuilders in terms of size in just about every department and in an era where giant wheels weren't as priority ie... Arnold Swartzenegger, there was Tom Platz. As accustomed as I am to seeing the Ronnie Coleman's, Branch Warren's and Jay Cutler's cartoon sized bodyparts, Tom's legs still blow me out the water like a lay person looking at FLEX magazine for the first time; just mountains and mountains of quad muscle I don't think exist on other people's legs.

 
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It's really, really good. Sweet pork jerky; very sweet & savory, not at all lean like western jerky's though, but the bite is much softer and much more moist.

Looks like ribs from a chinese joint cept healthier for some reason...

Damn I shouldve buffeted a chinese joint before dieting..ARRGHGH
 
Great video. Them legs on Tom Platz are out of this world. That sh*t is unreal:shocked:
 
Looks like ribs from a chinese joint cept healthier for some reason...

Damn I shouldve buffeted a chinese joint before dieting..ARRGHGH

Damn it Flex now I want to go to my FAVORITE Chinese take out place. Have some amazing boneless spare ribs. Hell I still might go Im not "cutting" really.
 
Damn it Flex now I want to go to my FAVORITE Chinese take out place. Have some amazing boneless spare ribs. Hell I still might go Im not "cutting" really.

Have a few slabs of ribs for me...damn...I know in the end its gonna pay off but right now, im strugglin...cmon WILLPOWER..kick in ...@#$@#$
 
Have a few slabs of ribs for me...damn...I know in the end its gonna pay off but right now, im strugglin...cmon WILLPOWER..kick in ...@#$@#$

They r covered in some sweet sauce and I just top them over rice and mix it all together with some duck sauce :mischievous:

U can do man just dont bad food.
 
Damn it Flex now I want to go to my FAVORITE Chinese take out place. Have some amazing boneless spare ribs. Hell I still might go Im not "cutting" really.

The real good eats is when you go to the O.G. restaurants that have a whole pig sliced in half and completely deep fried. That ish ain't healthy, but my gawd is there a lot of flavor in deep fried pork skin, lol.

Have a few slabs of ribs for me...damn...I know in the end its gonna pay off but right now, im strugglin...cmon WILLPOWER..kick in ...@#$@#$

Eat around the fat, bro, eat around the fat.... j/k, don't risk it, hang in there.

They r covered in some sweet sauce and I just top them over rice and mix it all together with some duck sauce :mischievous:

U can do man just dont bad food.

Duck sauce is bomb..... duck is bomb in general, its just so damn greasy, which is probably why it tastes so good.
 
Day 5

AM Cardio: Treadmill, incline 10, 1min:1min walk/run HIIT for 20 min.


PM Workout: Big Back Baby!!!

Well all my workout partners, 3 of them if you can believe it bailed. One had sick kids to watch, one is with a wedding photographer with the fiance and the other was stuck in training at the police academy in L.A., so it was solo, but a great solo workout. Solo has its advantages, and that's the pace at which I workout, the shortened rest is a form of increased intensity, so I'll be expecting some well earned DOMs tomorrow.

Barbell Rows (I haven't been "physically able" to do these in 5+ years)
135lbs x 20 reps
225lbs x 12 reps
245lbs x 10 reps
265lbs x 8 reps
295lbs x 6 reps
295lbs x 6 reps

Hammer Under Grip, One Arm High Rows
90lbs x 12 reps, each arm
100lbs x 10 reps, each arm
120lbs x 8 reps, each arm
130lbs x 6 reps, each arm
140lbs x 6 reps, each arm

One Arm Db Rows
110lbs Db's x 10 reps, each arm
125lbs Db's x 10 reps, each arm
125lbs Db's x 8 reps, each arm

Behind The Neck, Hammer Pull Downs
180lbs x 10 reps
220lbs x 10 reps
240lbs x 8 reps
260lbs x 8 reps
280lbs x 6 reps

One Arm, Hammer Pull Downs
90lbs x 10 reps, each arm
100lbs x 8 reps each arm
110lbs x 8 reps, each arm
120lbs x 6 reps, each arm

Rear Delt/Row Machine (just a touch up on the posterior delts)
150lbs x 10, x 10, x 8 x 6 reps

I resisted the urge for a second cardio session as per Kleen's and TG's advice.
 
Hell ya Tom... Place I goto has bomb spare ribs too!

I actually prefer Western Style BBQ Pork ribs over Asian spare ribs. Primarily, I'm a steak man, but I do love me some poke ribs, dry, wet, South Carolina sauce, North Carolina sauce, its all good to me.
 
I just noticed, but you've got a great chest BarbellBeast. You've got nice separation and striation running across, good stuff, bro.
 
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