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so i decided to try Osta Sarm

As far as muscle sparing properties go, do you think running a low dose of osta with t3 would be good? Or would I have to run it at, say, 25mg? This is in context of how you felt it spared muscle while on your otherwise natty cut.
 
Well I ran my cut very aggressively. I most certainly lost muscle. How much is hard to calculate. I will have a better idea after a week or two once my body can get back in the groove of lean-bulking and I can gauge my strength levels and compare to pre-cut strength levels. Right now, my strength levels are Meh... Monday they were very bad lol... I should improve very quickly.

I personally would not trust osta to be strong enough to go with any significant dose of T3. IDK though.

Some good news though, my gym partner has been on osta since I started doing about the same dose, and he is definitely responding better than me. Whereas I lost strength on the cut, he maintained his strength easily (and he cut on significantly less cals than me!). He is lucky, he responds well to anabolics, he even made gains on 50mg of Halodrol lol...

So i would conclude that osta is kinda "weak" for me relative to the majority of users out there, just like most steroids seem pretty weak on me, that's just how I respond.
 
I walk through walls on 30 mg of epi :crazy: I be scurred of SD.

2 more questions about dosing. Time of dosing and do you spread it out?
 
i take all my osta with my first meal of the day. 24 hour halflife so spreading the dose out is not necessary at all.
 
Unreal nice log, your opinions while cutting made me to decide to use osta on a bulk, taking it every morning with a shot of grapefruit juice, can't even taste, while kinda cant
 
UnrealMachine said:
I would either frontload it slightly harder than I did, or more likely I would preload it in anticipation of something like PCT so I would start dosing it during the last week of a cycle if I wanted it to be "kicked in" when my PCT started.

And I plan on running Osta for every future PCT I do lol! Why wouldn't you?! :)

I am back to trying to clean bulk, took me no time at all to throw on lots of water weight as I went back on creatine and got some carbs in me. I have switched to DC training. I lost a lot of strength during my cut.

I enjoyed the osta and it must have helped to some degree. But my strength really sucks right now lol. I think it'll take me a couple weeks of DC and getting some real calories back in me before it becomes decent again.
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:afro: Im sure you know this butttt Osta is purely anabolic- shouldnt affect strength only mass retention etc- in theory of course- okay im gunna shut up now because im sure you knew this-cause you the man


-schwell out:friday:
 
You don't think mass retention and strength are correlated? ;)

Anyway I will be able to gauge strength levels in the coming weeks. And I am still trying to get my friend to write a couple paragraphs that I can post about his osta experience because like I said, he responded better than me.
 
there are three that I've seen. It isn't the one that was discussed repeatedly at the beginning of this thread.
 
dlucks said:
Is your friend using the same source of osta as you?
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My friend is using the exact same stuff as me.

I am lucky tho, I got 2 lifting partners, I am thinking of putting the other guy on this stuff. He lifted a little in high school, but got fat in the last few years, and now he's been training with me and my more experienced friend since July or August or so. He's still relatively new in the gym but he's done so awesome following our training and diet, he's lost over 20 pounds while gaining muscle and can rep 185 on bench and 225 on squats... a few months ago he had a beer belly, now he's got abs and looks like a high-level athlete.
I wonder how he would respond to the SARM. I might talk to him about it soon.

Anyway, we have switched to pretty hardcore DC training (look it up if you are unfamiliar). Monday my lifting #s were terrible. Wednesday they were significantly better so I am hoping Friday shows a marked improvement as well.
With DC training I did hack squats with 2 plates per side (30 reps), preacher curls with 115 (12 reps on the first set, forget after that), reverse grip curls with 105 (like 10 reps on the first set), straight leg deadlift i didn't do rest pause style instead just worked up to 315 like usual. And for calve raises I did 315 pounds, 36 reps on the first set, forget after that. Those numbers are pretty weak for me but like I said they should be improving pretty rapidly at this point. I have been very thirsty as I reintroduce carbs and creatine into my system.
As for the ostarine, all I notice is that I feel more hard and solid than usual. I've been on for what, 4 weeks now. No sides. Love this stuff, even if it is very mild. For PCT, for bridging between cycles, for natty cutting and recomping to stay lean between cycles, for doing a controlled clean bulk even, it will have so many uses. This stuff is definitely the future.
 
It's probably only a chemical tweak or 2 from being very powerful, too, now that the basic structure of SARMs has been characterized.

I suspect the effects will be much more noticeable on people who have never been on anabolics.
 
UnrealMachine said:
My friend is using the exact same stuff as me.

I am lucky tho, I got 2 lifting partners, I am thinking of putting the other guy on this stuff. He lifted a little in high school, but got fat in the last few years, and now he's been training with me and my more experienced friend since July or August or so. He's still relatively new in the gym but he's done so awesome following our training and diet, he's lost over 20 pounds while gaining muscle and can rep 185 on bench and 225 on squats... a few months ago he had a beer belly, now he's got abs and looks like a high-level athlete.
I wonder how he would respond to the SARM. I might talk to him about it soon.

Anyway, we have switched to pretty hardcore DC training (look it up if you are unfamiliar). Monday my lifting #s were terrible. Wednesday they were significantly better so I am hoping Friday shows a marked improvement as well.
With DC training I did hack squats with 2 plates per side (30 reps), preacher curls with 115 (12 reps on the first set, forget after that), reverse grip curls with 105 (like 10 reps on the first set), straight leg deadlift i didn't do rest pause style instead just worked up to 315 like usual. And for calve raises I did 315 pounds, 36 reps on the first set, forget after that. Those numbers are pretty weak for me but like I said they should be improving pretty rapidly at this point. I have been very thirsty as I reintroduce carbs and creatine into my system.
As for the ostarine, all I notice is that I feel more hard and solid than usual. I've been on for what, 4 weeks now. No sides. Love this stuff, even if it is very mild. For PCT, for bridging between cycles, for natty cutting and recomping to stay lean between cycles, for doing a controlled clean bulk even, it will have so many uses. This stuff is definitely the future.
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The DC is going to bulk you nicely I think, IMO that is a terrific decision to jump on that method for your bulk...and your deads, as well as if you did say free squats, i believe they say to scrap the rest pause approach for these 2 body parts for safety reasons and just throw in a widowmaker set at the end. Good luck man, 218-220 is coming up, and with your discipline,cardio and the DC, i bet you dont gain more than 1.5% bf throughout this bulk, if that.

P.S. Not to mention your strength making a storming comeback.
 
UnrealMachine said:
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Uhmm my personal comments... I like ostarine, I have better hardness than I usually would during such a strong calorie deficiency. But I attribute my results mainly to the fact that I've been busting my ass in the gym, going 2x a day, and sticking to a very strict diet.

I think i've lost a lot of thickness, compare to my avatar, but that's got a real steroid pump going in that shot, now I am just basically "natural" on my light dose of ostarine. Other supps used: creatine (no off it), NTBM whey, NTBM muscle replenisher, Need2Slin, some caffiene/1,3-dimeth for stims, 12.5mg of osta, I think that's it.

203 pounds today

Time to clean bulk some muscle back, lol... I hate weighing this little, feels like the wind is going to carry me away. 215 is a good weight.
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great job bro. Beach ready in December!!!!
 
OnTheRoadTo said:
It's probably only a chemical tweak or 2 from being very powerful, too, now that the basic structure of SARMs has been characterized.
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"AWESOME, this is SUCH great ne.............. (stops mid-sentence, reads below)

OnTheRoadTo said:
I suspect the effects will be much more noticeable on people who have never been on anabolics.
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Awe. Never mind." (kicks dirt with one foot and crams hands into pockets while lowering head and sulking away)

;)
 
Unreal, good work buddy. I remember your avatar from a couple months (maybe a year back) ago. Hope to see more good logs on this.

SIDE BAR: I've been doing dc for a while 3 day ABA,BAB (MWF style) workouts...what were your macros like on your cut P/C/F (and calories) and what will they be on lean bulk, did you carb cycle?

I did a cut myself from 225 lost weight but i could never get the definition your getting...i looked the same just skinnier ... so frustrating...picked up some need2slin to replace the RALA supp.
 
diet changed through the 4 weeks to achieve lower cals, but between 250-300P, 110-140C, 80-100F every day, carbs eaten almost entirely pre and post workout. My morning workouts were about 90 minutes and intense so my meal 1 was my largest meal by far and had a ton of carbs in it... so think 60g carbs first meal, 30g 2nd meal, and another 30g in the rest of the meals combined
 
Nice good call on DC training. I can't wait to experiment more with it. I think my next bulk will be DC. I think the rest pause sets are the bees knees.
 
ya I'm still on this, day 32 I believe so I'm into week 5. probably will just do 6 weeks or so, maybe a 7th with a dose bump because I've got a ton of this stuff.

i agree Zama DC is a really great training method, what I like about it is that it accomplishes so much in only 3 workouts a week by utilizing such intense sets w/ the rest pauses & extreme stretching.
But the main reason I switched to DC is because it goes hand in hand with pulse cycling which I will probably do next.

People are running this as a standalone and for PCT. I'm pretty much going to use it all the time between cycles now, lol... I plan on running this into my next pulse cycle, doing that for like 8 weeks, and then going back onto Osta in PCT.
 
unreal... its been awhile buddy... glad to see your still here running this forum like an OG... took a break from this forum since about the time the ban train came thru... poor all humpthecook... miss his as$.... just wanted to say your looking fantastic man.. i give u all the credit in the world all your hard work is truly paying off, and it is truly inspiring to me, and hopefully everyone else on this forum, i hope people take note of how hard you work, and how nothing comes for free, anabolics are certainly no short cuts, especially for those of us who dont respond that well to AAS.
I was wondering man, i feel like your just about at the point in your training and AAS usage where cruising seems like a logical step for you. Have u put any thought into cruising instead of putting your endocrine system through such a hormonal yo-yo effect. Im entering my last pct for awhile, right now. Im gonna jump on the blast and cruise bandwagon after i recover from this cycle, hell im already thinking about my next run, i know im gonna jump on sooner then i should anyway! i know this isnt for everyone, but ive talked to a lot of people lately, and to take it to the next level this is a very logical step. Its certainly not for everyone, but my only concern is fertility issues. Yes this is a chance we deal with, although there are some fantastic new effective methods being used lately with hmg, hcg, clomid therapy.
Have u put any thought into taken it to the next step, im not saying you need it at all bro, you look amazing as is.. just wondering if the thought crossed your mind... i must say im very surprised to hear u mention pulsing again, i figured ud be using much more aggressive techniques at this point... so what did u have in mind for your next run/pulse?

btw..i feel we have similar thoughts on a lot of aspects most of the time and i wanted to let you know, im on board with the whole test sucks **** thing... its so god damn overrated i cant even tell you, im not sure cruising, will even allow me to keep gains from cycling, but we will see. I believe to the fullest extent now that test is completely unnecessary, it makes for a good base, and works wonders to keep sex drive up and negate some sides but nothing more, litterally nothing for strength and weight for me.... im jumping on the stacking orals bandwagon with u and jasen... and probably using some stronger injects stacked on my next run.... even debating dabbling with some gh when i get the money.... but hell im way off track now.. just wanted to tell u.. ur physique looks fantastic and get your thoughts on the blast and cruise method!... id love to discuss some other ideas i have on anabolics and such with u one day when u get a chance.. check ur PMs
~bigzach
 
Thanks for the info .. Amazing.. Very curious.. Did M1T and S1 back in the day.. Loved the gains and hated the sides, which were for me long lasting and brutal, so vowed never to do anything anabolic. I am in late 30s and got some good long lasting gains, but would love to do something mild and non harmful like this if it existed. It seems too good to be true.
 
bigzach1234 said:
unreal... its been awhile buddy... glad to see your still here running this forum like an OG... took a break from this forum since about the time the ban train came thru... poor all humpthecook... miss his as$.... just wanted to say your looking fantastic man.. i give u all the credit in the world all your hard work is truly paying off, and it is truly inspiring to me, and hopefully everyone else on this forum, i hope people take note of how hard you work, and how nothing comes for free, anabolics are certainly no short cuts, especially for those of us who dont respond that well to AAS.
I was wondering man, i feel like your just about at the point in your training and AAS usage where cruising seems like a logical step for you. Have u put any thought into cruising instead of putting your endocrine system through such a hormonal yo-yo effect. Im entering my last pct for awhile, right now. Im gonna jump on the blast and cruise bandwagon after i recover from this cycle, hell im already thinking about my next run, i know im gonna jump on sooner then i should anyway! i know this isnt for everyone, but ive talked to a lot of people lately, and to take it to the next level this is a very logical step. Its certainly not for everyone, but my only concern is fertility issues. Yes this is a chance we deal with, although there are some fantastic new effective methods being used lately with hmg, hcg, clomid therapy.
Have u put any thought into taken it to the next step, im not saying you need it at all bro, you look amazing as is.. just wondering if the thought crossed your mind... i must say im very surprised to hear u mention pulsing again, i figured ud be using much more aggressive techniques at this point... so what did u have in mind for your next run/pulse?

btw..i feel we have similar thoughts on a lot of aspects most of the time and i wanted to let you know, im on board with the whole test sucks **** thing... its so god damn overrated i cant even tell you, im not sure cruising, will even allow me to keep gains from cycling, but we will see. I believe to the fullest extent now that test is completely unnecessary, it makes for a good base, and works wonders to keep sex drive up and negate some sides but nothing more, litterally nothing for strength and weight for me.... im jumping on the stacking orals bandwagon with u and jasen... and probably using some stronger injects stacked on my next run.... even debating dabbling with some gh when i get the money.... but hell im way off track now.. just wanted to tell u.. ur physique looks fantastic and get your thoughts on the blast and cruise method!... id love to discuss some other ideas i have on anabolics and such with u one day when u get a chance.. check ur PMs
~bigzach
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Hey zach thanks a lot big dog, i know you have been around here long enough to see what I've been up to and i also respect what you say because you're someone here that takes bbing pretty seriously

for me getting to the next step is probably not going to happen. I'm applying to graduate schools now and so for the next 4-5 years I should be working on my doctorate, which means i won't have the time or the money to continue to bodybuild so seriously. I am not closing any doors but i don't want anything to interfere with my work when I start grad school.

But I will tell you what I think I would do IF i were to take this to the next level... First of all I'd need a lot of money because the next level requires a lot of roids and peptides and GH don't hurt either.
IDK if i would blast and cruise indefinitely so much as I would run 20 week cycles that were basically blast/cruises.
I agree on test, no strength gains, no size gains, just a crazy libido and some pimples, even on 1 gram a week, I am jealous of the people who say that they blow the **** up on test, i just don't understand it, I can pump a gram of test and go to the gym and it's hard to tell I'm on cycle in there. Test is a great bridge and a base, that's all I have been able to use it for. Normally when I cycle SD the gains mostly disappear, with test I can at least mostly maintain the gains for a month or two. Which gives you enough time for your liver to recover so you can cycle more orals.

If i wanted to take this to the next step essentially would I would do is have a 20 week base of testosterone and lay our about 3 heavy oral cycles throughout it, used in conjunction with other stronger injectables. I have tried so many oral steroids and so many of them are pure crap for me. I would pretty much stick to SD, M1T and PheraPlex because that **** actually works. So you know you could start with 4-5 weeks of M1T, then just stay on test for a few weeks, run peptides, run sarms, run whatever you can to try to keep the gains, then do like 6 weeks of high dosed phera, then another few weeks to detox your liver... Tren would be great to run between oral portions to keep the gains... Finish with SD haha...
I see injectables as a base that you use to link a lot of powerful oral cycles together.

I would be afraid of blasting and cruising for 1+ years though. It's just something I decided i didn't want to get into a while ago. It creates a monetary obligation... you NEED to keep shooting test, you need to keep buying it. I don't have much $ at all, which is part of the reason I've used so many PH's over the years, I've been scoring bottles dirt cheap and I can afford them. I don't want to get myself in a situation where I'm scraping to keep buying enough gear to sustain my physique, you know? I'm sure I would look amazing but everything has to come to an end at some point.

I am looking forward to my little pulse. It's still a fun cycle it's just cheap and simple. Low shutdown, smooth gains. I plan to do 1 more crazy heavy cycle before grad school starts in the fall but after that, IDK. Pulsing and using some sarms in-between is probably all I will do. I have tons of SD, M1T and PheraPlex. Doing oral cycles and pulses they could last years. I've got tons of ostarine. I could run Osta in every PCT and between every cycle I do. And I would only need to purchase a few PCT chems that's it. That is probably what i would do.

So you see it comes down to cost. I wish i had the time and the money to push my physique further but I am starting to actually become satisfied to a point with where I am lol... One day I should post my "before" pictures. I started out as a fatass nerd. I don't even know how I ended up looking like this. Time and effort I guess. It's not hard, you just gotta do it... man thinking about it, i've gotten such an elitist mentality, lol, i just can't stand it when I see people using the same substances as me with nothing to show for it because they're doing it half assed.

I didn't get your PM. but message me anytime.
 
I know I'm certainly interested in what a pre-bodybuilding unreal Machine looks like. Its hard to picture you anything but the beast that you have become.

Good post man. You are inspiration to many such as myself, and everything you have accomplished is very remarkable to say the least. You always lay everything out there, with no sugar coating and keep it real. The bad, the good, and everything in between. Just pure honesty at its best. And for that bro I salute you:cheers:
 
UnrealMachine said:
diet changed through the 4 weeks to achieve lower cals, but between 250-300P, 110-140C, 80-100F every day, carbs eaten almost entirely pre and post workout. My morning workouts were about 90 minutes and intense so my meal 1 was my largest meal by far and had a ton of carbs in it... so think 60g carbs first meal, 30g 2nd meal, and another 30g in the rest of the meals combined
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thanks buddy... ill try this out...and throw in a carb up ever 3/4 days....what are your macros on lean bulk. i know you mentioned you wanted to get bigger again...if my 2 cents mean anything i think you look good at the current weight

do you do lots of cardio while on DC training?
 
Hey Unrizzzle (to use Schwells terminology),

Can you speak on the effect that the Osta SARM has had on your libido (negative, positive, or zero)?

Many Thanks
 
so- no more unreal machine? :(
 
My macros were closer to 50/30/20 p/f/c but i am increasing carbs and fat more recently, have been staying lean at 205, about to start pulsing MDXT and dropping the sarm soon

haven't noticed any interaction between ostarine and libido. That's a very good question though, I should have mentioned that sooner.
 
UnrealMachine said:
My macros were closer to 50/30/20 p/f/c but i am increasing carbs and fat more recently, have been staying lean at 205, about to start pulsing MDXT and dropping the sarm soon

haven't noticed any interaction between ostarine and libido. That's a very good question though, I should have mentioned that sooner.
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whats the monster pulse going to look like. Im startin mine soon
 
30 pre and 10 post 3x a week with DC training then work up to 30 pre 20 post then maybe 40 pre 20 post. I'm going to be dosing very high. I want to kill 2 bottles in 8 weeks. Hmm i might have to dose even higher then. I"ll make it work :)
 
UnrealMachine said:
30 pre and 10 post 3x a week with DC training then work up to 30 pre 20 post then maybe 40 pre 20 post. I'm going to be dosing very high. I want to kill 2 bottles in 8 weeks. Hmm i might have to dose even higher then. I"ll make it work :)
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Def interested in how that works out for u. Have 2 bottles also and tempted to do another pulse in the future.
 
great thread man... I am going to add this into my PCT and will let yall know what happens with me as well on a new thread... I recently decided to quit bodybuilding and aim at muscle mags such as Muscle and Fitness and REPS... for me, walking around 275-280 and force feeding all the time just was not worth it, plus I was chasing guys that are young freaks like Huh and my boy Steve Kuclo out here in Dallas, or guys that just do not care about health, jobs, life or relationships to pursue a plastic trophy and top 10 superheavy national level...staying leaner and single digit bodyfat around 250-255 is my goal, so during this caloric deficit, we shall see how ostarine helps out...
 
UnrealMachine said:
Hey zach thanks a lot big dog, i know you have been around here long enough to see what I've been up to and i also respect what you say because you're someone here that takes bbing pretty seriously

for me getting to the next step is probably not going to happen. I'm applying to graduate schools now and so for the next 4-5 years I should be working on my doctorate, which means i won't have the time or the money to continue to bodybuild so seriously. I am not closing any doors but i don't want anything to interfere with my work when I start grad school.

But I will tell you what I think I would do IF i were to take this to the next level... First of all I'd need a lot of money because the next level requires a lot of roids and peptides and GH don't hurt either.
IDK if i would blast and cruise indefinitely so much as I would run 20 week cycles that were basically blast/cruises.
I agree on test, no strength gains, no size gains, just a crazy libido and some pimples, even on 1 gram a week, I am jealous of the people who say that they blow the **** up on test, i just don't understand it, I can pump a gram of test and go to the gym and it's hard to tell I'm on cycle in there. Test is a great bridge and a base, that's all I have been able to use it for. Normally when I cycle SD the gains mostly disappear, with test I can at least mostly maintain the gains for a month or two. Which gives you enough time for your liver to recover so you can cycle more orals.

If i wanted to take this to the next step essentially would I would do is have a 20 week base of testosterone and lay our about 3 heavy oral cycles throughout it, used in conjunction with other stronger injectables. I have tried so many oral steroids and so many of them are pure crap for me. I would pretty much stick to SD, M1T and PheraPlex because that **** actually works. So you know you could start with 4-5 weeks of M1T, then just stay on test for a few weeks, run peptides, run sarms, run whatever you can to try to keep the gains, then do like 6 weeks of high dosed phera, then another few weeks to detox your liver... Tren would be great to run between oral portions to keep the gains... Finish with SD haha...
I see injectables as a base that you use to link a lot of powerful oral cycles together.

I would be afraid of blasting and cruising for 1+ years though. It's just something I decided i didn't want to get into a while ago. It creates a monetary obligation... you NEED to keep shooting test, you need to keep buying it. I don't have much $ at all, which is part of the reason I've used so many PH's over the years, I've been scoring bottles dirt cheap and I can afford them. I don't want to get myself in a situation where I'm scraping to keep buying enough gear to sustain my physique, you know? I'm sure I would look amazing but everything has to come to an end at some point.

I am looking forward to my little pulse. It's still a fun cycle it's just cheap and simple. Low shutdown, smooth gains. I plan to do 1 more crazy heavy cycle before grad school starts in the fall but after that, IDK. Pulsing and using some sarms in-between is probably all I will do. I have tons of SD, M1T and PheraPlex. Doing oral cycles and pulses they could last years. I've got tons of ostarine. I could run Osta in every PCT and between every cycle I do. And I would only need to purchase a few PCT chems that's it. That is probably what i would do.

So you see it comes down to cost. I wish i had the time and the money to push my physique further but I am starting to actually become satisfied to a point with where I am lol... One day I should post my "before" pictures. I started out as a fatass nerd. I don't even know how I ended up looking like this. Time and effort I guess. It's not hard, you just gotta do it... man thinking about it, i've gotten such an elitist mentality, lol, i just can't stand it when I see people using the same substances as me with nothing to show for it because they're doing it half assed.

I didn't get your PM. but message me anytime.
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you have the right idea bro, bodybuilding can consume almost every part of your life, not to mention if your job is in the industry as well like mine is... at your height, you would need to be about 250+ minimum on stage to be competitive at high levels, just not worth it bud, you got a great look, make solid gains yr to yr, keep your health and get in some mags!
 
unreal, you look fantastic bro, Ive ben dyin to try osta and would really appreciate it if you told me what legit site you got yours from.
 
no sourcing dude!

but thanks for bumping this thread, I need to update because I've finally come off Ostarine. I'm on the 7th week somewhere. I started bulking again and it didn't do much for me. Wasn't gaining strength or size in any way that seemed unnatural. I'm still just recovering my strength that I lost during the cut.

But i've stayed lean and still look good IMO. So it probably helped with something. Ostarine is definitely mild but I really enjoy it. I just like having that extra pump and hardness. Probably because I'm addicted to that feeling ;)

Anyway I'm coming off the Ostarine because I've started my Monsterdrol XT pulse. Last Friday I dosed 40mg, and then Monday and Wednesday of this week I dosed 50mg. After 3 days I believe that I am feeling increased muscular hardness and i'm getting acne out of nowhere...
Definite signs of anabolic activity.
 
Sounds like mdxt is treating you about the same way it treated me. If you want half a bottle to extend out your pulse lemme know. I'm somewhat tempted to try mdxt again but I am definitely too fat to even consider bulking any time in the near future.
 
Dc88888 said:
unreal, you look fantastic bro, Ive ben dyin to try osta and would really appreciate it if you told me what legit site you got yours from.
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WAL MART
 
is there any way u can just pm? i really don wanna get ripped off n waste 300 bucks on nothing. would b a huge help.
 
2k1s said:
you should have asked in a pm. It should be less than 100 for a bottle btw.



I get my **** from costco :lol:
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oh you got 6 bottles for 500 at costco huh? you think sams pricing is comprable?? :haha:
 
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