Best OTC alternative to viagra
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Killerkanadia
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You shouldn't have these problems at 22. You need to go see a doc.
Otherwise, buy viagra off the internet.
Otherwise, buy viagra off the internet.
Desh
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Thanks buddy, already tried it off the internet and customs confiscated it both times. :damnit:
Killerkanadia
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That sucks man, i know there is a legit source for it out there somewhere though! Also, you might try Cialis instead 
Although is till stand by my original statement that you need to see a doc about this, you might try Perform and see how that works for you for starters.
Although is till stand by my original statement that you need to see a doc about this, you might try Perform and see how that works for you for starters.
StackedCop
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Dude go see your doc.... My buddy was having the same problem. Went to his doc and got some blood tests. Turned out his test levels were way low... ended up getting a prescribed testosterone!!
The Matrix
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You need to isolate the caus of this because it could be a sign of something more serious that can be going on. With out knowing medical history or other facts looking to treat the symptom with out identifying the cause is a time bomb waiting to go off. Do not feel embarrassed I see alot of guys on a weekly bases ranging from 15 to 80 years old that have the same condition. The first thing I do is isolate where the issue coiuld lie then run complete lab work to get proper hormonal base of thyroid, adrenals, and testosterone, estrodial, along with checking normal parameters. So get to a doctor and do not except viagra as an exceptable form of treating your condition.
The Matrix
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TRT is not always the answer but asking the proper questions to finding out reason why with proper medical testing to rule out imbalances.
John Smeton
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Desh
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thanks dude, I will try it but I don't have trouble getting it up, just can't last more than 2 minutes. :thumbsdown:
I tried to purchase perform but it wouldn't ship to Canada, it sounded like a good deal at 50% off.
Killerkanadia
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Lol, i guess no one even bothered to ask what his problem was.
PE is not a low testotsterone problem haha
PE is not a low testotsterone problem haha
SolidusSnake
Member
And viagra can help with that issue..
Sometimes all a guy needs is a random spurt of confidence.. Something viagra and a decent looking women can offer.. Then the problem fixes by itself.
EasyEJL
Never enough
thats a wee bit different then, as viagra/cialis/levitra won't help you last any longer anyhow.
As funny as it may sounds, taking a relatively high dose of antihistamines may help with that.
RenegadeRows
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The problem that Viagra addresses has nothing to do with T.
SouthernCharm
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Maybe your dopamine levels are through the roof.
southpaw23
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I like to throw on some Michael Bolton, Barbara Streisand or William Hung...light some scented candles and then it's on.
bomb402
Member
Says the guy who never had Low T and low libido. It sure as hell solved my problem. You can listen to whoever you want but I want sex everyday and my **** is always hard as a rock for as long as I want. Before with low T nothing worked.
The Matrix
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When other hormones not just Testosteorne are out of balance this can be a huge player in libido section. Alterations of brain chemistry also needs to be examined as well since every thing is interlinked.
AGELESS
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Do not over look trimix....
Definition: (TRY-mix) Referring to three drugs that are mixed for injection into the penis to produce an erection and usually refers to a mixture of papaverine, phentolamine and prostaglandin E-1. May be spelled with a hyphen.
The cost is about 150.00 for 100 shots
Each shot will last abouit 2 hrs ( Not a good idea if you are going out for dinner right after)
And trust me no pain in your tool.
Now after the shot ....its comin' UP (no mater who or what she looks like)
Definition: (TRY-mix) Referring to three drugs that are mixed for injection into the penis to produce an erection and usually refers to a mixture of papaverine, phentolamine and prostaglandin E-1. May be spelled with a hyphen.
The cost is about 150.00 for 100 shots
Each shot will last abouit 2 hrs ( Not a good idea if you are going out for dinner right after)
And trust me no pain in your tool.
Now after the shot ....its comin' UP (no mater who or what she looks like)
The Matrix
Well-known member
Thats Boston university solution to TRT LOL
The problem is that its a pure bandaid method with out finding the root cause and for a life time solution it is impratical. Is that poor man's caveject?
fanzdslpwr
Member
1,000mgs of korean red ginseng 3x daily
The Matrix
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Ageless I have been following you for years under different names, but you are a true inspiriation that age is just a number and its all a mind set that people tend to forget. You have proved TRT has its antiaging benefits and are a living legend your self..
Gutterpump
Banned
MT-II / PT-141 ----- I just started a trial of this.
Or there's always the oldschool ****ring lol
Or there's always the oldschool ****ring lol
Kristofer68SS
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i have lot of guys late 30's and up asking me for products to try for this ED topic.
i always tell them see their doc, or try V or C.
i would love to make some coin if there is a natty alternative that will help.
Subn
i always tell them see their doc, or try V or C.
i would love to make some coin if there is a natty alternative that will help.
Subn
FlyByNight
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Any progress?
Hey. I realize this is an old post but old posts still come up on Google searches forever so maybe my 2 cents can help someone. Did you discuss this with anyone other than here? Since you say the problem is strictly endurance I don't know that a doc is necessarily your only choice. I'll tell you though, being embarassed about talking to one you're really doing yourself a disservice. It's a job to them, they don't discuss it at dinner with their spouse. When I got a vasectomy I asked the dude if I would ejaculate any less. Because the volume of your orgasm has everything to do with how long it lasts right? (albeit measured in under a minute) Sure it was a bit awkward but I didn't know what to expect. For all I knew my orgasms would forever after be lame so this was important information for me to know before I commited to the procedure. Who else was I going to ask? Everybody is different so what people advise from personnal experience on a forum may not apply to you. One guy told me last year I would have permanent diarrhea after a gallbladder removal. That person's experience was not at all what mine has been. Talk to a professional that can give you real facts about what the average joe might expect when they operate or medicate or whatever. At 22, at least speaking for myself, I'd be looking at what I could do to have more discipline and control over the physical process.
Would having a 4 hour erection help anyway if you're premature? I think Viagra (or a sub), while maintaining your erection would do nothing for performance. Mind you this is a guess on my part. I can give you some honest opinions based on my own experience though and I hope that it helps.
-you will have more control as you age. that doesn't help now but trust me it gets better
-kegel exercises will help you gain control AND enjoy more powerfull orgasms
-you can train yourself with controlled breathing and masturbation cut short. Google it.
-this might sound lame but try to think about something else while you're in the act. because...
A lot of this might be in your mental approach. Focus more on your partner and you'll find that pleasuring them makes the whole thing more enjoyable for you. I can only comment on how this works between men and women but any guy can get it done lickety split if he's concentrating, whereas I think most women require more attention (and sometimes just can't no matter what you do). So, given that you'll manage to reach orgasm anyway focus first on hers and try to set yours aside. If you have to think about spiders or Margaret Thatcher then do it. With experience you'll find that a quickie won't come anywhere near the pleasure for both of you if you stretch it out for an hour.
Approaching this as a matter of discipline will be more work and time but well worth it. You'll feel great about satisfying your partner and have plenty of the control that you want. Set your phone to remind you to do the kegel exercises. If you keep at that you'll be a rock star in the sack after a couple months.
One last thing. At your age a quick fix of 3 beers prior would pretty much make me last until I would put my mind to finishing up because of a bit of a numbing down effect. Try between 2 and 3 and see what happens. NOT 4. Having to pee in the middle of sex ruins everything for everyone.
Good luck man. This is important for a well balanced life. You need a better solution than a pill.
Hey. I realize this is an old post but old posts still come up on Google searches forever so maybe my 2 cents can help someone. Did you discuss this with anyone other than here? Since you say the problem is strictly endurance I don't know that a doc is necessarily your only choice. I'll tell you though, being embarassed about talking to one you're really doing yourself a disservice. It's a job to them, they don't discuss it at dinner with their spouse. When I got a vasectomy I asked the dude if I would ejaculate any less. Because the volume of your orgasm has everything to do with how long it lasts right? (albeit measured in under a minute) Sure it was a bit awkward but I didn't know what to expect. For all I knew my orgasms would forever after be lame so this was important information for me to know before I commited to the procedure. Who else was I going to ask? Everybody is different so what people advise from personnal experience on a forum may not apply to you. One guy told me last year I would have permanent diarrhea after a gallbladder removal. That person's experience was not at all what mine has been. Talk to a professional that can give you real facts about what the average joe might expect when they operate or medicate or whatever. At 22, at least speaking for myself, I'd be looking at what I could do to have more discipline and control over the physical process.
Would having a 4 hour erection help anyway if you're premature? I think Viagra (or a sub), while maintaining your erection would do nothing for performance. Mind you this is a guess on my part. I can give you some honest opinions based on my own experience though and I hope that it helps.
-you will have more control as you age. that doesn't help now but trust me it gets better
-kegel exercises will help you gain control AND enjoy more powerfull orgasms
-you can train yourself with controlled breathing and masturbation cut short. Google it.
-this might sound lame but try to think about something else while you're in the act. because...
A lot of this might be in your mental approach. Focus more on your partner and you'll find that pleasuring them makes the whole thing more enjoyable for you. I can only comment on how this works between men and women but any guy can get it done lickety split if he's concentrating, whereas I think most women require more attention (and sometimes just can't no matter what you do). So, given that you'll manage to reach orgasm anyway focus first on hers and try to set yours aside. If you have to think about spiders or Margaret Thatcher then do it. With experience you'll find that a quickie won't come anywhere near the pleasure for both of you if you stretch it out for an hour.
Approaching this as a matter of discipline will be more work and time but well worth it. You'll feel great about satisfying your partner and have plenty of the control that you want. Set your phone to remind you to do the kegel exercises. If you keep at that you'll be a rock star in the sack after a couple months.
One last thing. At your age a quick fix of 3 beers prior would pretty much make me last until I would put my mind to finishing up because of a bit of a numbing down effect. Try between 2 and 3 and see what happens. NOT 4. Having to pee in the middle of sex ruins everything for everyone.
Good luck man. This is important for a well balanced life. You need a better solution than a pill.
southpaw23
Well-known member
Try Axcite Magnum or MuscleFeast's Male Advantage (closest thing to the old Aspire 36), both work well, with the advantage going to Male Advantage since it's a strong alternative to Viagra.
The Matrix
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As I have seen in clients in neurotransmitter profiles, prozac will lower dopamine significantly. By increasing dopamine levels through various suggestions this tends to offset the sexual problems associated with this drug. Many times it is possible to even get people off anti-depressant drugs because once the root cause is found then with the help of open minded medical profession we work together to getting to taper them off.
Blergs
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I agree with RED but NOT with blue.
T-911 may help from LG sciences (has yohimbine in it)
bigdavid
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I have been through this problem myself it can be embarrassing but see a doctor. The first thing he will do is test your hormones. If those are all normal it could be psychological and counseling can make that better many men see a therapist once and are good to go. If that is not good then he will have no problem giving you viagra and if you do not want to pay for the high price in the US the doctor I went to basically told me to look to other countries. He did not recommend it but said many of his patients buy meds overseas if you have an Rx for the script (in this case Viagra) I believe it is legal but do not take my word on that just how my doctor made it seem. Viagra is actually very safe and there are few side effects. A lot of time its a confidence issue and you might only need it for the first few times you are with a new girl until you become more comfortable with her.
The Matrix
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In this day and age a person has to do what a person has to do to be proactive about their health. We dr's I consult with it comes to certain medication, I notifiy them (dr's) where they can go to get proper medication for their patients at affordable prices legally. This has helped save their patients hundreds of dollars over a years time. The Dr is aware of the medications are being prescribed by him and the patient is getting them on their own. These people are properly monitored via Dr to make sure there are not unwanted side effects. Most good dr's will want the best for their patient and will help them to find cheaper and efficient ways to get proper therapy.
bighulksmash
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Woohoo !
AdelV
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What are they? Difference to V and C?
trn450
Member
That's a different issue.
Start-stop training (e.g. forcing yourself to stop before you ejaculate and then resuming to slowly desensitize yourself) is one great way to start working on that on your own.
And, believe it or not, the mainstay of medical treatment for this issue is anti-depressants of the SSRI class. Last I looked at the numbers, the mean time for people with PE was ~ 2 minutes and starting an SSRI either extended to 7 minutes or added 7 minutes. I don't recall.