How does the PP Topical TRS stack compare to HCGenerate for PCT??

ambulldog said:
i like pp products but i also have no problem paying the money they are asking for hcgenerate. ive used it along my trt and ill tell you the stuff is awesome. alot of people have used sa and like it a lot but if you havent tried hcgenerate you shouldnt judge
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ambulldog said:
short answer is yes to an extent.,. heres a link to my log
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Appreciate the feedback ambulldog! :cheers:
 
Ps price is steep on HCGenerate as only a few are left in stock. You will still save more on this recovery stack of SERM + HCGenerate over TRS + SERM... but you will save a TON if you wait a bit longer for price to come back down to give you more Protein, more Creatine aka more muscle. Hope PCT isn't around the corner...

Sorry Bud, stupid supply and demand lol.[/QUOTE]

I know right ... I forgot to buy HCGenerate when it was on sale but wasn't too turned off at the normal price. Then I saw the price now and was like :yikes: Waiting patiently for price drop.

Hmmm ... how come my reply didn't quote chocolatemilk?
 
ambulldog said:
i like pp products but i also have no problem paying the money they are asking for hcgenerate. ive used it along my trt and ill tell you the stuff is awesome. alot of people have used sa and like it a lot but if you havent tried hcgenerate you shouldnt judge
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I didnt say hcgenerate wasnt a good product and i never said it didnt do what they claim it does. I personaly refuse to pay the price for most of there supps. Ive tried two products, 1 good, 1 where i didnt see much, which i didnt really expect to.


jbryand101b said:
JC, pm me your address, and I will send you a free bottle of HCGENERATE from my personal stash to run in your next pct so you can see the difference!
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This just tickles me.. Good luck with ur run JC it should be a great PCT.
 
Ok this is what I like to do.

I have a few TRS lying around :D

So what will be my PCT especially for my harsher cycles(which most are).

Clomid
Toco-8
Endo-Amp(or other cortisol control products when I run out since I dont have as many)
Sustain Alpha TD on the balls only
and of course HCGenerate.
 
Run the HCGen during your cycle and use the TRS in PCT. Problem and argument. Solved. :D
 
I am going to run the HCGenerate for the duration of my cycle and I am gonna get the TD version of the TRS stack and yes apply the sustain alpha to my testis..
 
we could compare anecdotal evidence all day but the bottom line is that both the TRS and HCGenerate WORK. They are expensive but they WORK.
 
Honestly id like to see a thread opened on the preference between lv and td sustain as far as comparative results.... Seems some say both are great some other prefer the td.... I'm using lv, for my pct coming up...
 
poopypants said:
Honestly id like to see a thread opened on the preference between lv and td sustain as far as comparative results.... Seems some say both are great some other prefer the td.... I'm using lv, for my pct coming up...
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this would be a great idea. my results are strictly from TD sustain, don't know how much more effective LV would be in terms of my results with topical.
 
poopypants said:
Honestly id like to see a thread opened on the preference between lv and td sustain as far as comparative results.... Seems some say both are great some other prefer the td.... I'm using lv, for my pct coming up...
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I've used both the topical Sustain Alpha and the liqua-vade Sustain Alpha. I definitely prefer the topical over the liqua-vade version for several reasons, the primary one being that the topical Sustain Alpha was far more effective than the liqua-vade sustain Alpha for me.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
 
I'm also interested to hear how this effected you in general as well rosie?

Much effects in the gym? And without bring too rude or crass, in reality did you observe an increase in "libido" as well?

Rosie Chee Scott said:
I've used both the topical Sustain Alpha and the liqua-vade Sustain Alpha. I definitely prefer the topical over the liqua-vade version for several reasons, the primary one being that the topical Sustain Alpha was far more effective than the liqua-vade sustain Alpha for me.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
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poopypants said:
I'm also interested to hear how this effected you in general as well rosie?

Much effects in the gym? And without bring too rude or crass, in reality did you observe an increase in "libido" as well?
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I logged both experiences (although I only reviewed the topical:

Sustain Alpha

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Log
The Female Terminator Chronicles (posts #856 - #923)

Final Review (also in my log)
Rosie’s Review of Sustain Alpha
(Re libido, my review does not mention it, but - as Sean can attest - it was quite high and the topical Sustain Alpha is the #2 product I have ever used re libido increase - #1 is T-911[/url] and #3 is FREE TEST).


Sustain Alpha Liqua-Vade

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Logs
The Female Terminator Chronicles: REVOLUTION (2010) (posts #100 - #188)

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
 
poopypants said:
Great, thanks for the links. I should get subscribed to that thread considering all you run/review and advise on....
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No worries :)

Subscribed to what thread? I posted log and review links - all of which are now closed threads.
 
JCunningham said:
The reason the transdermal is more effective is because resveratrol isnt that great taken orally, but is amazing TD.
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I wish everyone could get their has on trans acetylated res... Its plenty orally bioavailable...

Too bad even the only company that had it doesn't anymore... Would be great in liquivade
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
I've used both the topical Sustain Alpha and the /sustain-alpha-liqua-vade.html]liqua-vade Sustain Alpha. I definitely prefer the ww.primordialperformance.com/store/sustain_alpha-libido-booster.html]topicaover the .primordialperformance.com/store/sustain-alpha-liqua-vade.html]liqua-vade version for several reasons, the primary one being that the rdialperformance.com/store/sustain_alpha-libido-booster.html]topical Sustain Alph was far more effective than the primordialperformance.com/store/sustain-alpha-liqua-vade.html]liqua-vade sustain for me.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
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^^This is mostly what I've seen over multiple forums since LV was released. I've used the TD multiple times but I've not personally used the LV. Generally I recommend the TD because I can honestly say it works because I've used it. I can only say that LV doesn't work as well from the anecdotal evidence I've seen from reading about the results. That's not to say that it doesn't work just fine. Some could be a mental bias from users who are used to the TD. That said, I'll stick with what I KNOW works. TD Sustain.
 
poopypants said:
Hmmm I thought that you terminator chronicles were on going..... My bad.
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They are - just not on the forums. It's continued on my website as my "Fitness Blog - The Female Terminator Chronicles: REVOLUTION OF A WARRIOR is my Training/Supplementation Journal (the same as it was on the forums).


Rahl said:
^^This is mostly what I've seen over multiple forums since LV was released. I've used the TD multiple times but I've not personally used the LV. Generally I recommend the TD because I can honestly say it works because I've used it. I can only say that LV doesn't work as well from the anecdotal evidence I've seen from reading about the results. That's not to say that it doesn't work just fine. Some could be a mental bias from users who are used to the TD. That said, I'll stick with what I KNOW works. TD Sustain.
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Results will differ between individuals, and I know of many who prefer the liqua-vade version over the topical.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
 
JCunningham said:
The reason the transdermal is more effective is because resveratrol isnt that great taken orally, but is amazing TD.
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You are mistaken. The Res is well absorbed via the LV technology, it is not the Res that is the reason.

Eric in the past has explained the concept of aroma therapy and the use of the olfactory to stimulate a raise in LH and Test. LV does not have the essential oils that Transdermal has. One of the places you want to put it is on the upper chest in close proximity to olfactory cells.

BTW, Sustain does use Trans-Res... well known for oral supplementation.
 
Oh yeah, I get great results from LV, of course my reason is because I have a 1 year old daughter, so do not want any transfer.

BTW, Sustain LV helped me conceive my upcoming child... just sayin
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
Results will differ between individuals, and I know of many who prefer the version over the.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that. My point was simply what I personally recommend based on what has worked in the past for ME. That's really all I can do. I have no reason to try the LV and I probably won't since I know the TD works for me. If the LV works for someone else then I would imagine that's what they would feel comfortable recommending and that's great too.
 

I actually started posting that before your post went up (I am at work and was pulled away from comp for a sec), so it wasnt in regards to that post. But if you don't see evidence of used car salesmen in this thread, your eyes are closed.
 
jbryand101b said:
well, i was just informing the consumer that at need to build muscle, there are a variety of options

and you can not dislike 15% off & free shipping.

Need to build muscle for all your top notch body building foods & supplements!

guess it isn't a good idea to let consumers know they could get the trs & hcgenerate from our store.
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What did I tell you before? Do you want NTBM to be removed form AM? If you start carrying and advertising other companies products as a retailer you WILL be removed.
 
but I thought primordial performance was a sponsor?

well, okay, I can take a hint, I will not support company sponsors products any longer. I will remove myself from this hostile environment, and leave before I get jumped and murdered.

god bless you all, I love nutraplanet!
 
jbryand101b said:
but I thought primordial performance was a sponsor?

well, okay, I can take a hint, I will not support company sponsors products any longer. I will remove myself from this hostile environment, and leave before I get jumped and murdered.

god bless you all, I love nutraplanet!
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Take a hint? Obviously the rules that state "Nutraplanet is the exclusive retailer of AM" isn't clear enough for you. Why don't you go email Sam, tell him you are selling another companies products and see how he likes it then maybe the message will get through your head.

"Hey Sam, I am selling PP's products now and going to undercut you on the board you pay for exclusive rights...just thought you would love that..k bye"


Yeah, that will work.... :rolleyes:
 
HereToStudy said:
I actually started posting that before your post went up (I am at work and was pulled away from comp for a sec), so it wasnt in regards to that post. But if you don't see evidence of used car salesmen in this thread, your eyes are closed.
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Hate to break this to you, but a lot of people said the same about the company you rep for.

It is what it is and there is a reason the company promo section exists. If it gets out of hand in this section I will remove it.
 
Dwight Schrute said:
Hate to break this to you, but a lot of people said the same about the company you rep for.

It is what it is and there is a reason the company promo section exists. If it gets out of hand in this section I will remove it.
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I am sure to a degree this is said about most companies. Im not going to drag a dead horse through this thread, but if you would like I am more than willing to discuss concerns/etc. in a PM, I am also very open to criticism of myself, or anything out of line you feel my company may be doing.
 
Its all in good fun, the best information possible always comes out in heated debates.

A couple dedicated and passionate reps "pimping products" aren't always JUST that.... I for one have always been an advocate for "over doing" a pct.... No point in doing all that hard work and just letting it fade away because of inadequate diet, routine or supplementation.

With that being said this thread does seem over done with the head to head competition, guess that's what you get when ya start a thread asking which is better, lol.
 
JCunningham said:
Wow, anabolic minds is like war between primordial and needtobuildmuscle...
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No, it really isn't. We have never had an issue with any company on this board; nor would we. We're here to promote our products in accordance with the board rules as a sponsor, as well as assist the community here with any questions that they may have about our product line; or anything in general really.

I think one important factor that many people can overlook is that we're really all here helping each other out in the end with our own knowledge and experiences. This online community here is the best around; that's a direct result of the fantastic admin, mods, sponsors, and community members we have here.



-John
 
It's also worth mentioning that PP and N2BM share a lot of the same users. I for one happily use products from both. Just depends on the situation.
 
HereToStudy said:
I am sure to a degree this is said about most companies. Im not going to drag a dead horse through this thread, but if you would like I am more than willing to discuss concerns/etc. in a PM, I am also very open to criticism of myself, or anything out of line you feel my company may be doing.
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Doesn't matter to me. As long as you abide by the rules which you do, I don't care how you promote your product. Thats your choice, not mine. I let the free market decide...if you market ineffectively, you wouldn't be around...you are around and have done well therefore you are doing something right. Those who do not, don't last..that simple.
 
poopypants said:
Its all in good fun, the best information possible always comes out in heated debates.

A couple dedicated and passionate reps "pimping products" aren't always JUST that.... I for one have always been an advocate for "over doing" a pct.... No point in doing all that hard work and just letting it fade away because of inadequate diet, routine or supplementation.

With that being said this thread does seem over done with the head to head competition, guess that's what you get when ya start a thread asking which is better, lol.
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^^^^This sums it up.

Me & Poops like to go at it from time to time... no hard feelings... all in good entertaining fun.

But some people call it "cancer among the boards" or "product pimping makes me sick to my stomach" LMAO. Reeeeeeelax. Breathe. It's not the end of the world.

Sometimes we are :cussing: other times we are :240: but it's all in good fun :icon_lol:
 
chocolatemilk said:
^^^^This sums it up.

Me & Poops like to go at it from time to time... no hard feelings... all in good entertaining fun.

But some people call it "cancer among the boards" or "product pimping makes me sick to my stomach" LMAO. Reeeeeeelax. Breathe. It's not the end of the world.

Sometimes we are :cussing: other times we are :240: but it's all in good fun :icon_lol:
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CM I have never had a problem with you, but if you would like to discuss this, feel free to PM me. My comment to an extent still is valid, this isnt elite, although some people don't realize that.
 
HereToStudy said:
CM I have never had a problem with you, but if you would like to discuss this, feel free to PM me. My comment to an extent still is valid, this isnt elite, although some people don't realize that.
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And I don't have a problem with you my ganja smoking brotha :439:

PM will be sent.
 
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