It amazes me what the 2 of you refer to as FUN!!! LOL
HAHA.... no more so than some of the things you do. LOL
A somewhat distorted sense of it I agree... :fest30:It amazes me what the 2 of you refer to as FUN!!! LOL
To go along with one of DWs quotes: True pain is an acquired taste... that we just so happen to think is fun! :smirk:A somewhat distorted sense of it I agree... :fest30:
I love that quote.To go along with one of DWs quotes: True pain is an acquired taste... that we just so happen to think is fun! :smirk:
Thanks, Pain.. you just learn to love it...I love that quote.![]()
Would have to say that I do enjoy it.. I love it!! The feeling of the conquest, the oportunity to use you mind to go where you never thought you could. Lets not forget about the endorphin rush. I fear it yes, but the opportunity to conquer that fear is exhilerating... There are times when my body doesn't respond the way I want it to and at those times I would say I am not having any fun. Most of my workouts are pretty damn good though. Bad workouts are few...I know that heavy weights and stressing the muscle to sometimes the extreme maximum are what it takes to grow, however I would not say I enjoy it, just something a person must go though if they want to look a certain way.
Posing for sure hardens you up a bit and helps with conditioning.
Yah now I will try and optimize it a bit. I would have been very happy with that run though if it were my contest prep.I am happy that skiploading worked for you DW. Sounds like after one or two more runs you should have it down and be able to come into your contest dry and rock solid.
I don't see why you couldn't try it if you are on a cut... I actually am seriously thinking about doing it this weekend starting Saturday night. I would like to see what it would do for me as I finish my Pink Magic.so can I do that diet WITHOUT a contest... and every weekend??? I think that's what you said right????
Well I guess you could but I don't know why one would put himself through that unless for a reason like contest or maybe a photo shoot.so can I do that diet WITHOUT a contest... and every weekend??? I think that's what you said right????
Considering where I am at I was very pleased with what I saw this morning, I remained full and dry. I can just imagine how this will look with the body fat down another 3-4% and tighter skin...So you must really be looking sharp today. Pretty dry and still plenty full.
It will be off the hook I bet.Well I guess you could but I don't know why one would put himself through that unless for a reason like contest or maybe a photo shoot.
Considering where I am at I was very pleased with what I saw this morning, I remained full and dry. I can just imagine how this will look with the body fat down another 3-4% and tighter skin...
Hope it's a good as what I am imagining...It will be off the hook I bet.
You will not want to eat it for long that wears off fast when your stomach is screaming for mercy. Then the first 24 hours afterwards your detoxifying ... not pleasant. The thing is though, it works and it's consistent. That's the only good reason for doing it.I was just asking for approval to eat everything I always wanted to eat but never could... all I have to do is tell the wife, "hey... DW SAID I could, so its good enough for me" LOL
Well I don't know about that. I bet it squelched ANY desire to have a cheat meal for you...Hope it's a good as what I am imagining...
You will not want to eat it for long that wears off fast when your stomach is screaming for mercy. Then the first 24 hours afterwards your detoxifying ... not pleasant. The thing is though, it works and it's consistent. That's the only good reason for doing it.
Yes that desire is long gone. It has made me rethink my regular carb up day however, I have been eating too many fat's and not enough carbs. Now I am thinking Pasta some low fat ice cream for desert followed by a late envening snake of Pancakes and Maple syrup. Throw in a couple protein shakes and I should be good.Well I don't know about that. I bet it squelched ANY desire to have a cheat meal for you...
How do you think that would work for someone like me DW? That sounds tons more appealing than skiploading to me. I always have a 36 hour carb up on the weekends anyways, I like this format a lot better. Gets rid of the cravings.Yes that desire is long gone. It has made me rethink my regular carb up day however, I have been eating too many fat's and not enough carbs. Now I am thinking Pasta some low fat ice cream for desert followed by a late envening snake of Pancakes and Maple syrup. Throw in a couple protein shakes and I should be good.
Yah there is a lot of difference between a regular refeed and a load. I think it is a good idea to take 500-600 gram day once a week to load up on glycogen and keep the metabolism going. Use nutrient partitioners to get the full benefit. Pancakes and syrup aren't as bad as some things, Pasta is not that bad. This would work very well with a macro cycle.How do you think that would work for someone like me DW? That sounds tons more appealing than skiploading to me. I always have a 36 hour carb up on the weekends anyways, I like this format a lot better. Gets rid of the cravings.
Your diet should never have you starving, a little hungry is ok, or if you eat till your almost full and stop and drink some water you will find you have had enough after all. Really hungry usually means something is not right. Eat more just make sure it's clean.soooooo hungry...
:fing02:Your diet should never have you starving, a little hungry is ok, or if you eat till your almost full and stop and drink some water you will find you have had enough after all. Really hungry usually means something is not right. Eat more just make sure it's clean.
just hearing you talk about your pancakes and just puts a twinge in the stomach!!!! I'm not REALLY hungry. Cravings are there from time to time for specific things, but not hunger. :fest30:Your diet should never have you starving, a little hungry is ok, or if you eat till your almost full and stop and drink some water you will find you have had enough after all. Really hungry usually means something is not right. Eat more just make sure it's clean.
I don't get much of that but my two friends OEP and Recreate put an end to those shenanigans.This Pink Magic has me wanting to eat round the clock! Carb cravings are horrible.
Have you given any though to making this a weekly thing to really nail it down to a science? Like have the weekend carb up, be your carb up? I am contemplating it or maybe every other week once I get below 7%.Yes that desire is long gone. It has made me rethink my regular carb up day however, I have been eating too many fat's and not enough carbs. Now I am thinking Pasta some low fat ice cream for desert followed by a late envening snake of Pancakes and Maple syrup. Throw in a couple protein shakes and I should be good.
yah when your watching a commercial or someone brings up the subject for somethng your craving then I get antsy too.just hearing you talk about your pancakes and just puts a twinge in the stomach!!!! I'm not REALLY hungry. Cravings are there from time to time for specific things, but not hunger. :fest30:
Yah I have been fortunate that has not happened to me...This Pink Magic has me wanting to eat round the clock! Carb cravings are horrible.
Yah OEP is why I have not had cravings I guess, takes the edge off my hunger too.I don't get much of that but my two friends OEP and Recreate put an end to those shenanigans.
I just feel it's to obtrusive to overall fat loss at this time. I mean yah it might be ok I am not willing to take the chance I need to cycle my macros and this interferes with my schedule too much. I am too close for that kind of experiment right now. This is my comprimise, do it every 2 weeks and the off week I will carb up 600-700 grams and still be able to do my low carb days. The lower carb ups will contain the same types of foods.Have you given any though to making this a weekly thing to really nail it down to a science? Like have the weekend carb up, be your carb up? I am contemplating it or maybe every other week once I get below 7%.
Just be prepared to use more if needed. You can simply extend it but this leaves less time for flushing but that is an easy adjustment as well. I actually will use 28-30 hours to load as long as I leave myself a full 3 days to flush I should be fine.Very nice plan DW, I love that you are leaving me a roadmap to follow, I am already assuming I will only need the 1500 grams max being a little smaller and just as efficient. Being that my show is on a Saturday when I start these practice runs I think I will do the carb up on a Monday or Tuesday. Get myself used to the timing it will take to peak on Saturday for sure.
Yeah that makes sense.Just be prepared to use more if needed. You can simply extend it but this leaves less time for flushing but that is an easy adjustment as well. I actually will use 28-30 hours to load as long as I leave myself a full 3 days to flush I should be fine.
Thanks, yah Kleen and I have been mulling over this loading process. I took the plunge as I'm up first. When Finny linked me and I read it, I had a real epiphany. Both Kleen and I had commented before on how carbed up we were after the show when we pigged out. Then I read this and nothing ever made more sense.nice contest prep information in this thread
Yah I would have to say that is true. I had hoped to be more ahead of the game but based on my lean body mass number I just went under 7% which is a little better than I thought. Caveat yesterday was a low carb day so my weight may be skewed a bit. I look so much leaner and tight still though.sounds like u are right on target!
That actually may be the case, I registered for grandmasters, cuz well that's my age group, I run the risk of not having much in the way of competition but I guess it's better than showing up and being overmatched you just never know what you'll run into. If they want me to switch categories I wll...way to hammer it DW... love the rows bro!!! you are going to walk away with this!!
Great work bro.Last nights workout was stellar. Good power finished all my reps. Considering I have just lost 25 lbs and I am killing the same weights I did last time I did this routine this is pretty remarkable don't you think ?
I haven't missed a beat, the swole kept me strong now this one is doing that as well. I have just strung together the best 3 runs of my life starting last fall.
Front squats 270 X 5 X 2 second set was better
Icline db press db's touching 80's X 5 X 2 yah I am down from 90 but this is a harder exercise I am most pleased with the 80's and this is easier on my shoulder so I can get a better chest workout.
Lat pulldown 170 X 5 X 2 these were easier than the 165 I did last time especially the ......second set
Bent over rows 180 X 5 X 2 crushed
Push press hammered 145 X 5 X 2 not problems easier than the 140 on tuesday.
Decline tri ext 125 X 5 X 2 first one was a bit rough but he second one was much better. See a theme building here?
O bar curl 140 X 5 X 2 good power less trouble than 135 was
Calf raise 160 X 5 X 2
I was concerned I was not going to progress on some of the lifts but that certainly was not case, not only did I progress but I got stronger on every lift for more weight.
Guess this shyte is kickin in!!
Official weigh in .. I was back down to 208 but this is a lot more full looking 208 than before, I look leaner and tighter too. I am a little less inflated than the previous day as it was a low carb day but nowhere near as deflated as I was last week. So even after eating all that crap I lost significant body fat.
Welcome Yah there's plenty of life left in this one never too late...Late to the party but subbed nonetheless!
Exactly what I experienced about fat gain, I lost fat and quite a bit... it's surreal.DW, I know I have found some other stuff on SL but I think one of his big things he mentions is that in that short period the body doesn't realize it has an excess so it doesn't store as fat add on top of that you taking Glycobol and AP with the berberine turning off your fat stores you have effectively skyrocketed your metabolism while basically being impossible for you to gain fat in that short period.
I really like your mini carb up even that isn't so mini though. Will you be trying not to drink many fluids to see if you can hold the dryness?
Just parallel for me, any lower and I'd have to use knee wraps. I no longer go past parallel on any squat, but I go very wide toes pointed outwards so my quads engage much earlier in the lift. Call it an old mans trick :smirk:Strong front squats Doug. are you going to parallel or past parallel on them?
It's actually almost impossible to go below parallel with that stance.I am doing the same wide stance with my bad knee. I find it puts much less pressure on the joint and on the quad where I want it