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Zero V

Zero V

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Man can they get in your head, twist things all up, put put muck in your motor, and then crash your system :trout:
 
They contribute to both the best and worst times in my life. I learned over the years what NOT to do, and only through fukcing up gained real life knowlegde that I today appreciate. Everytime you get into a serious relationship, and it ends, you without question learn something new. Usually about yourself, or what you want, and or don't want the next time. We HAVE to fukc up to grow, there is no other way to truely make it all sink in. Sad, yes, but truth be told.
 
Exactly right Tripdog. Ive established 2 rules when it comes to relationships. 1. even if things dont work out you learn what your looking for in a relationship. 2. I will not tolerate any games. I let it be known from the very begining. If you want to bring BS into my life your gone. Im too old to be dealing with Jr High BS

I think men and woman both need to stop bashing eachother. If your constantly saying Women/Men just play games and dont know what they want, or they're all A$$holes/B!tches. Maybe you need to start dating a different type of person. If that doesnt work its time to look in the mirror

But yes Zero V. They can get into your head and get you twisted. We've all been there
 
People only get into your head if you let them. I say "people" because both sides are capable of some BS.

I do know where you're coming from though Zero V.
 
buuzer0 said:
People only get into your head if you let them. I say "people" because both sides are capable of some BS.

I do know where you're coming from though Zero V.
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If you're dealing with a good lier then it is easy to be misguided
 
Chicks are awful but they're so damn awesome.

:dunno:

Just gotta deal with it. Just be your own person. Talk to all of them. Flirt with any woman that gives you eye contact. - Dude, just have fun. The right one will find her way in at some point. I'm in the same boat.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Chicks are awful but they're so damn awesome.

:dunno:

Just gotta deal with it. Just be your own person. Talk to all of them. Flirt with any woman that gives you eye contact. - Dude, just have fun. The right one will find her way in at some point. I'm in the same boat.
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Words that I live by!

Things are so much less stressful this way. :sly:
 
sad part is women tend to control us men because we get think with the wrong head..my wife knows how to get anything out of me just by promising or hinting at things..sucks cause i fall for it every time
 
purelife1 said:
sad part is women tend to control us men because we get think with the wrong head..my wife knows how to get anything out of me just by promising or hinting at things..sucks cause i fall for it every time
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I do as well. Very sad but true
 
Women only have the upper hand if you let them. Im not saying be a d!ck by any means. But the next time a female looks at you and tells you that she wont have sex if you dont do what they want, Look her in the eye, Say OK and dont do it. The look on her face will be great. Just be prepared that she means it
 
Its not sex I focus on, havent had poon in 3 years now(for faith reasons, though honestly its getting REAL hard with my whole life being so stressful.)

Its the lies...the bullcrap they spew, the innocence they project, the wants they express only to slip that blade in.

I lost trust of women after my last ex, then finally opened up to a girl after she literally fought to get me to, we started having a blast together, then truths come out.
 
lennoxchi said:
that's not women dude, that's just a personal thing. men and women a like can be douches.
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True, but if a guy is a ****head, I can ignore him or hit him in the face...

Also I am not looking for a man to make my wife :squint: :nono:

lol.

Too many fake people out there though...men and women.

On this particular issue, 90% of women I meet/know are idiots, and fit the bill for being problematic.
 
Zero V said:
Its not sex I focus on, havent had poon in 3 years now(for faith reasons, though honestly its getting REAL hard with my whole life being so stressful.)
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sounds like your still married:439:
 
Like I said in my earlier post Zero V. Then you need to surround yourself with different men and women. And when you say "The truth comes out" Is it that they lied to you or is it you found something out about them without asking them first. Im the type of guy that wont ask about a womans past. Why? Because 1. I dont want to know and 2. It doesnt matter. I know Ive done some things in my past that I would NEVER tell without being asked so why would I judge someone else for mistakes or things in their past. What matters is if they truely care for you and you are all they want
 
bigdognhb said:
Like I said in my earlier post Zero V. Then you need to surround yourself with different men and women. And when you say "The truth comes out" Is it that they lied to you or is it you found something out about them without asking them first. Im the type of guy that wont ask about a womans past. Why? Because 1. I dont want to know and 2. It doesnt matter. I know Ive done some things in my past that I would NEVER tell without being asked so why would I judge someone else for mistakes or things in their past. What matters is if they truely care for you and you are all they want
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Totally feeling this post. But then... I don't mind guys that do judge women for their pasts... because that's just less competition for me!
 
I try not to let women 'rule me' mate, once they gain control of a guy then they get bored, start a bit of mind****ing and all whole house starts to crumble.

Don't try to 'get inside' their heads, don't try to understand them too much (it scares most women). Most women I've met look for a strong, confident, sociable and faithful guy who has standards and won't put them on a pedestal. It takes a long time to find the right one though mate, that meets all the right criteria.
 
I much rather have a woman that was a slut once upon a time and got it out of her system than one that decides to give it a try after were together :hump:
 
Here is some advice I have heard over and over....focus on something else and when you least expect it...bam it will happen and be the best thing ever, do I believe this line of BS I just babbled to you, perhaps not but why not try living that way....

TC
 
Zero V said:
Its not sex I focus on, havent had poon in 3 years now(for faith reasons)
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I know a gay guy like this...

Zero V said:
Its the lies...the bullcrap they spew, the innocence they project, the wants they express only to slip that blade in.
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Aren't you trying to project innocence as well?

Zero V said:
I lost trust of women after my last ex, then finally opened up to a girl after she literally fought to get me to, we started having a blast together, then truths come out.
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Maybe your "faith" is being tested? Whatever that means anyways. We live, we die... get some poon in-between.
 
FNG said:
Aren't you trying to project innocence as well?
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Not at all. I come across as a nice guy too often, but Innocent I try not to project, thats not....guy-ish? lol

I usually have unique views that are more radical, which actually for some reason attracts girls. Apparently the wrong ones though, eh.
 
Zero V said:
Not at all. I come across as a nice guy too often, but Innocent I try not to project, thats not....guy-ish? lol

I usually have unique views that are more radical, which actually for some reason attracts girls. Apparently the wrong ones though, eh.
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you've been around for a while here and I've come to know a bit about you. and there's one thing that i think i keep seeing over and over again, you keep trying to date women that are into the church. am i right? if so, knock it off. haven't you learned by now that doing the same thing over and over again doesn't work and that you'll get the same results? don't believe me? go hit the wall with you head, Monday through Friday and tell me what's different. listen bro, it's cool that you're into the church and the God thing but the women you find there aren't for you man. i can't even count how many threads over the last year I've read from you or that you commented on that proves my comments to be correct. most people that go to church and fu***ng douches anyway. the people that on Sunday morning are all nice and loving and then you see them later in the store and they're "motherf***ing" everyone in front of them for being so slow and then giving attitude to the cashier that makes like $8.00 an hour at best.

why not try and switch things up a bit and date someone that is not into the church like you?

your faith is just that, yours. be comfortable enough in your faith to not have to talk about it 24/7 to someone you're dating and you'll be fine. as long as the other person respects your views and beliefs and as long as your cool if she does not have the same ones you s/b cool with anyone. most people don't mind God loving individuals but DO NOT want religion shoved down their throat (not saying you do that). as long as you have something other than God to talk about in every other sentence you s/b fine.
 
toughchick401 said:
Here is some advice I have heard over and over....focus on something else and when you least expect it...bam it will happen and be the best thing ever, do I believe this line of BS I just babbled to you, perhaps not but why not try living that way....

TC
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I LOATHE when my friends tell me that. It just makes me think of the people who are shoved up their jobs ass and end up being alone.

Although I will admit the best way to keep a girl off my mind is to flirt with another girl :booty:
 
Tomahawk88 said:
toughchick401 said:
Here is some advice I have heard over and over....focus on something else and when you least expect it...bam it will happen and be the best thing ever, do I believe this line of BS I just babbled to you, perhaps not but why not try living that way....

TC
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I LOATHE when my friends tell me that. It just makes me think of the people who are shoved up their jobs ass and end up being alone.

Although I will admit the best way to keep a girl off my mind is to flirt with another girl :booty:
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Yeah... I have to agree, to some extent. The key isn't "focusing on something else", it's NOT focusing completely on one girl for her attention. When you have other stuff going on in your life, it's attractive. I think meeting women (or men, if you're a lady) should be a part of your life if that's something you want. They're not going to just show up at your door, you have to go out, put yourself out there, and meet them.
 
bigdognhb said:
Like I said in my earlier post Zero V. Then you need to surround yourself with different men and women. And when you say "The truth comes out" Is it that they lied to you or is it you found something out about them without asking them first. Im the type of guy that wont ask about a womans past. Why? Because 1. I dont want to know and 2. It doesnt matter. I know Ive done some things in my past that I would NEVER tell without being asked so why would I judge someone else for mistakes or things in their past. What matters is if they truely care for you and you are all they want
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This works but I tend towant to know what I am dealing with here. I have no problem asking a lady to go WITH me to get bloodwork done. Now a days, you cannot be to safe.

That's better than waiting until "that magical moment" and asking "just what is that oozing bump near your vaginalzzz"
 
buuzer0 said:
Yeah... I have to agree, to some extent. The key isn't "focusing on something else", it's NOT focusing completely on one girl for her attention. When you have other stuff going on in your life, it's attractive. I think meeting women (or men, if you're a lady) should be a part of your life if that's something you want. They're not going to just show up at your door, you have to go out, put yourself out there, and meet them.
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I agree with you, no one will show up at your door and if they do well I would be weary, but all I am saying is focusing on your job, lifting and friends isen't a bad thing either, if it's going to happen it will :)

GOod luck to you

TC
 
Zero, there is nothing wrong with truely being a nice guy. Im the same way. If a woman is going to take advantage of that you dont need her in your life. So what if it takes longer to find that perfect someone. In the end you'll end up with a person that deserves you. Keep your head up bro.
 
I'm with Lennoxchi on this one, I too have seen these threads, I'm not saying that church girls are bad... but they're not necessarily the best, my last two GF's were pretty religious when I started dating them... I hate to say it but I kind of get in the way of them going to church cuz it gets in the way of the *****... fukced up I know, but just how it is i guess... but realize that girls that do and don't go to church FOR THE MOST PART don't want to hear about church all the time, especially those who don't go. My ex talked about it WAY too much, and tried to push it on me, not a good idea. Nobody likes that or responds well to that. JMO
 
The weird thing for me is how desensetized to relationships I have become.I was dating a girl from work a couple of months ago and it ended badly.Even though I see her on a daily basis,I feel no emotion toward the matter,good or bad.
Same thing with the girl I was dating before her.She rarely crosses my mind,and even when she does,I do not feel much emotion about it either way.
I think I have been burned to many times to ever care that deeply about someone again.
The only love I have left in my heart is reserved for my family.
 
If a woman is not a source of happiness for you, not your ally and confidant, dump her. Dump her now. Move on. Don't EVER let a woman play games with you - withholding sex? Dump her. Won't communicate or pulls that "I'm not mad" crap? Dump her.

There are too many bitches out there just like her for you to waste your time on such mediocrity. If you're looking for a mate to spend the rest of your life with, make sure she is a person in whom you delight and take pride.

Dating Bull**** is only bull**** if you let it be. And women only manipulate you if you let them.

Oppositely, there are plenty of men out there who are just as bad as the women, and unfortunately this exacerbates the problem. It's society as a whole, and exactly the reason why you should be searching for the exception, and not settling for the standard.
 
People can and will manipulate people period, end of that discussion. Unless you have some type of clairvoyance then you can be lied to and made believe it. It is plain and simple. Unless you can just flat out read minds then you can be lied to and made to believe it....

Now, it is when you KNOW they are lying to you and you CHOOSE to not believe it is a lie, this is when you should slap yourself with a piece of broken glass.

Everyone gets trampled on in their voyage to a better situation. Hell, I had a girl that cheated on me and had 4 guys try to rip me apart, literally, kill me. Well, I can't say she SET ME UP because she didn't know I was coming over that night but she didn't tell me he had 3 friends waiting out back, wtf? One second I am tearing this guy limb from limb, the next second, I am face down being decimated by 4 guys. Shiat happens, move on.

The worst part wasn't even the physical beating. I could recover from that. It was the mental beating that she put me through by lying to me for 6 months about her friend, some guy from the military and a bouncer that her friend was cheating on with both guys. come to find out, in the end, it was me, her, and the other guy. I was playing the role of the military guy, the cheater guy was the bouncer and she was the friend...lol

Imagine, she asked me advice on several situations as to what she should tell her "friend". Damn, when I think back about what i told her to tell her friend, then finding out it was actually her, me, and the guy that I was giving advice about....i nearly lost it, well i did lose it. I went into an institution for 3 weeks.

That's like me coming to you zero, and giving you stories about some chick from Alaska that I am sleeping with and asking you advice about it, you giving me all types of advice on what to say and do and in the end, you find out it was your wife the whole time....
 
The right girl is probably closer than you think, you're just looking the wrong direction. I was going through some stuff years back and ended up talking to my sister's best friend. She was 7 years younger than me, with someone else, and i never looked at her as a woman-just my sisters friend. Eventually she became a good friend to me. Since she was just a friend, I told her all kinds of stuff you'd never tell a girl you wanted to date- complete honesty about other girls i was with etc. Anyway her relationship was over and about 6 months later I saw her diferently. The exact opposite of the girls i went out with. She was hot! Smart, and my best friend. 7years later and still my best friend. I enjoyed alot of women-not bragging-but i think it was good for me to find out what i didn't want in a relationship. I respect your choice of abstinance, however, IMO the mind can be clouded by our hormones. Jeremiah 17:9 (King James Version)
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
You "want" to find your match. If you keep "trying" you might end up like alot of other people--with the wrong one. I'll bet if you stop looking, the right girl will bump right into you. Just don't bend over, it might be a guy.J?K
 
omni said:
The right girl is probably closer than you think, you're just looking the wrong direction. I was going through some stuff years back and ended up talking to my sister's best friend. She was 7 years younger than me, with someone else, and i never looked at her as a woman-just my sisters friend. Eventually she became a good friend to me. Since she was just a friend, I told her all kinds of stuff you'd never tell a girl you wanted to date- complete honesty about other girls i was with etc. Anyway her relationship was over and about 6 months later I saw her diferently. The exact opposite of the girls i went out with. She was hot! Smart, and my best friend. 7years later and still my best friend. I enjoyed alot of women-not bragging-but i think it was good for me to find out what i didn't want in a relationship. I respect your choice of abstinance, however, IMO the mind can be clouded by our hormones. Jeremiah 17:9 (King James Version)
"The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
You "want" to find your match. If you keep "trying" you might end up like alot of other people--with the wrong one. I'll bet if you stop looking, the right girl will bump right into you. Just don't bend over, it might be a guy.J?K
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True on this. I cant call it abstinance since I have already had me some pink. I just refer to it as trying my best to follow my faith(which honestly, quite often all I want is a girl and about 6 weeks of none-stop catch up booty, but desist and resist...).

Thats kinda how the girl that is bothering me a bit came around, I opened up to her about stuff others do not, and will not know... and after all that is when we develop attraction, and start running together.

The big poop stain here, is that she ended up going down to TN(I am in ohio) for college. And we all know how that works out.

Then situations arise, and I just kick myself for getting that close. (I am anti-social with a slight hate for mankind). My Ex screwed me fubar, and I dont trust women because of it.

She put me into about 2-3 years of psychotic episodes, the ends of which people here on AM actually kinda caught if they remember some of my "swinging mood" posts or extremely overly radical posts. Sometimes polar opposites.

Having come out of that, only suffering from a lack of ever having good credit again(I ruined myself during the mental war).

But, I would have it no other way. Looking back, I have become literally 45 times the man I was. Went from a nutless pushover, into someone in leadership roles and with a healthy mindset. Plus I learned to love lifting :439:

Point being though, is I still deal with my ex. She married another guy in the church. Which I currently wont leave, because honestly, everyone there is family to me, and some have been the very fabric that helped hold me together, and I know countless prayers have been sent for me lol.

But the side effect is, I cant trust women now. Regardless. I either adopt a "I dont care" attitude with them, because I assume it wont work out, or I literally just get really bored fast and lose interest, or in a rare case (such as this) where I let them in, just dont like it.

Essentially, relationship wise I am FUBAR. My own fault.

My ex did not make my mistakes, those are my responsibilities. But it was because of her that I lost it lol.

On that note I have lost all confidence, at the age of 23 I am going into bankruptcy thanks to a few years of screw ups. This will make college hard as hell to ever finish, and leave me financially beached for some time. Even in sports, like the softball league I played in. I went from pitcher/slam hitter/beast to lucky to get around the bases.

She on the other hand has had everything given to her, she married a guy who may have man boobs, and look like a squirrel...but he had finances and crap.

Duno, I think I prefer to screw everything up before it gets a chance to screw itself up anymore. Honestly, never expected to be the kinda guy who does that...

LOL, sorry for the dump. I dont really talk to people about crap anymore. They all have their own crap to worry about and I am usually trying to help them with that anyways.
 
Keep your head up Zero, it'll work out eventually. I know how you feel man. Little did I know myexwas still living with her ex boyfriend the first month we dated. He was her brother's best friend so whenever I saw his truck there or if I ever saw him she disguised it as him hanging out with her brother. She lived in a room seperate from the main house and he was never in her room when I was around but he was sleeping in there when I wasn't. Long story short, she was lying to both of us...a lot....she told him I was "just a friend" then he saw her texts and called me...So we both filled eachother in on what was really going on and it sucked.
I had him come over and we both waited at my house to confront her and the look on her face was priceless. Of course after that is was all crying blah blah blah...Anyways man it was one of the worst experiences ever. It screwed my next couple relationships. Finally though I learned to be happy by myself and once I started getting back to really enjoying things in life and not looking for any form of relationship, I meet an awesome girl. I've always heard it happens when you're not looking for it but never believed it. I suppose it all depends but I think I'm better off now than ever.
That came out longer than I wanted it to I just wanted to say it'll get better man and certainly start dating DIFFERENT types of girls and just learn what you want or won't deal with...In the last year and a half, I went from being sick to my stomach and depressed almost daily to being in the best frame of mind I've been in for a long time. It's just a trial and you'll come out stronger. Don't be afraid to let people in but also don't move too quickly with a girl you're interested in....
 
Sometimes you need to talk to people who you dont know....no judgement and like you said friends have there own crap to deal with.....I wish you luck :)

TC
 
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Has being a church goer helped you in anyway? you seem to have a lot of pent up anger. Ive been screwed over by girls in the past but im not the perfect boyfriend either. The worst thing you can do is carry around all this anger and bitterness towards the opposite sex. It won't get you anywhere. move on and start again. If you get screwed over again, do the same thing, start again. Its a learing experience and in my opinion I'd rather go through all these bad times whilst im in my 20's, still look fit and healthy, have a nice disposable income etc, no kids....you get what im saying. It could be much worse.

Dont be so hard on yourself and dont be so hard on woman. Saying you can't trust them ever again etc, no offense, but it seems like you have a bit of growning up to do. Do you not have female friends, a mother, a sister, do you not trust them??

Good luck mate. I hope you find happiness. Your off to college soon, don't miss what could potentially be the best years of your life.
 
Australian made said:
Has being a church goer helped you in anyway? you seem to have a lot of pent up anger. Ive been screwed over by girls in the past but im not the perfect boyfriend either. The worst thing you can do is carry around all this anger and bitterness towards the opposite sex. It won't get you anywhere. move on and start again. If you get screwed over again, do the same thing, start again. Its a learing experience and in my opinion I'd rather go through all these bad times whilst im in my 20's, still look fit and healthy, have a nice disposable income etc, no kids....you get what im saying. It could be much worse.

Dont be so hard on yourself and dont be so hard on woman. Saying you can't trust them ever again etc, no offense, but it seems like you have a bit of growning up to do. Do you not have female friends, a mother, a sister, do you not trust them??

Good luck mate. I hope you find happiness. Your off to college soon, don't miss what could potentially be the best years of your life.
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Being in church does help, in fact its probably the only reason I tempered my anger and learned to mostly let it go. Yet church itself has raised some battles, and created a good bit of the pain in my life(though the growth from it is far greater than I would have accomplished otherwise).

As for college..Been in college for 4 years of things getting worse(still no degree), I have zero disposable income(very negative actually lol), and things all around look mostly bad. But it will get better.

With the girl thing, I do have alot of female friends...which is why I really dont trust them. As friends yes, but nothing more... far too much deception. Out of 20 girls, none really shine. I dont ask for perfection, I am far from that myself. Just truth, and honesty...which sees rare.

Not sure why I feel women will always lie. Or as my ex did "Omitting facts" just right to make it technically the truth but still a complete lie...

Guess I just keep picking the wrong ones is all. lol. Thanks for post.

making alot of life changes soon, it may change everything up.,..
 
These last two posts are very good, but you guys are young and it shows (dont be offended everyones young once). Let a guy whos been around a while chime in.

First, dont ignore the obvious. I read a study a while back in Muscular Development that said that if a woman had a tattoo she had a 80% chance of having had at least 4 different partners within the past year. If she smoked, the same. If she smoked and had a tattoo it was like 10 partners or something. Dont make generalizations, not all girls with tattoos (especially nowadays) or that smoke are players, but the point is if the girls your into have tats, smoke, etc. chances are she might be deceitful, etc. Another big one, I think, is if a girl goes to the bar regularly, she has a night that she always goes to some bar, shes a slut. Goood girls dont usually go regularly to bars in this country. England different as the pub is a family hang out mostly. Girls you meet at the gym, the library, etc. are a much better option.

The young seem to be very idealistic and unfortunately thats not based in reality. When I was a boy I was dreaming of my princess and fell hard for every pretty girl that took an interest. I got burnt plenty. My father used to always say "it gets better when your in your 30's" which I never believed. But, like a lot of things my father said, he was right. When your in your 30's your in your prime as a male, and your options as far as women go expand from young to OLD. LOL.

Now before you bash me for what Ive wrote heres some background. Im 37, never married, close once, and have dated a variety of women from 18-46. Lots were very fun but couldnt be trusted, some were clompletely mental. Others were great. There are all types out there. And you will find the sooner you stop feeling sorry for yourself, the faster you will forget her and some new better one comes along. TRUST ME ON THAT. It always happens that way. Just when you think your soul mate got away, that youll never find one like her, in walks another that blows your mind again.

Women are great, I love em, they have a caring, gentleness about them thats just comforting to be around, converse with, etc. I prefer their company every time. But, like men, nobodys perfect, and some things that look great on the outside, arent so hot on the inside. The sooner you forgive your enemies, the sooner all those negative emotions/feelings just vanish. And in walks another girl you cant live without. Peace.
 
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