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Nutra's Phenibut

This morning I used the little white scooper inside, which I assume is 100mg. I used three scoops. I definitely felt something there. Very subtle. I've been feeling to ****ty lately, for it to be a placebo effect.

Tomorrow I'm gonna try a 1/4tsp.
 
I weighed one level scoop (packed pretty tight) and it came out to 800mg. So on average, you're looking at 750-800mg per scoop. That means you did close to 2.5 grams, lonewolf.
 
Chops89 said:
I weighed one level scoop (packed pretty tight) and it came out to 800mg. So on average, you're looking at 750-800mg per scoop. That means you did close to 2.5 grams, lonewolf.
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I'm shocked. Although that's explains why I hardly felt today dosage, which was a level 1/4tsp that I use with all my powders. Tomorrow I'm gonna go back to using thew little scooper that came with the pheni, and dose accordingly using that. I tried 3 scoops yesterday, tomorrow I'll try four or five.

I don't get that blitzed feeling some get using pheni. I used to dose it 6g four hours apart.

Yesterday I felt good...well-being was up and anxiety down. Today I feel like my typical unhappy self.
 
I think it all depends on how much you weigh. Someone over 200 lb would need more than someone who weighs 120 lb. I wish the labeling instructions were more clear -
I thought I was taking 100 mg (1 scoop) and people said it was 750 mg!! Quite a difference..........it's more subtle in effects as far as I can tell.
 
I was on my way to a funeral that morning and I had a eulogy prepared in the event that there was an “open mike.” Perhaps you’ve heard that old expression about public speaking phobias: “most people would rather be the guy in the casket than the one delivering the eulogy.” For public speaking, I generally use half a milligram of Xanax and a small dose of either propranolol or atenolol, and this invariably shuts off the fear response and allows a polished presentation. However, I was out of Xanax and didn’t want to pay my doctor for an office visit just to obtain one dose, so I decided that if the phenibut arrived on time I would just substitute that for the Xanax and hope for the best. The dosage I took was 100 milligrams of atenolol, which might have contributed to the “drunk” effect—I’m not sure. I’m actually glad now that I didn’t give the eulogy, since the phenibut hit me so hard that I was actually having trouble talking. It’s pretty strong stuff.
 
I hear ya about the public speaking. :aargh: Same here....but I don't take any beta blockers cause they slow down your heart rate and it makes me feel dumb. Phenibut works great in this regard! Calms the jitters and makes me relaxed enough to give a speech.



Booee said:
I was on my way to a funeral that morning and I had a eulogy prepared in the event that there was an “open mike.” Perhaps you’ve heard that old expression about public speaking phobias: “most people would rather be the guy in the casket than the one delivering the eulogy.” For public speaking, I generally use half a milligram of Xanax and a small dose of either propranolol or atenolol, and this invariably shuts off the fear response and allows a polished presentation. However, I was out of Xanax and didn’t want to pay my doctor for an office visit just to obtain one dose, so I decided that if the phenibut arrived on time I would just substitute that for the Xanax and hope for the best. The dosage I took was 100 milligrams of atenolol, which might have contributed to the “drunk” effect—I’m not sure. I’m actually glad now that I didn’t give the eulogy, since the phenibut hit me so hard that I was actually having trouble talking. It’s pretty strong stuff.
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Oh don't worry.....didn't effect my driving. To be honest I hardly feel it. Acute sense of aggravation and anxiety is down, but didn't feel messed up or euphoric by any means. My head is a little cloudly this morning.I don't know if because this is the third day in a row that I've taken Pheni. I plan on dosing this three days on, four days off.

So I'll try four or five scoops again Monday, and see how it goes.
 
Steveoph said:
How long have you taken off? You seem to be pretty desensitized to GABAergics.
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I haven't used Pheni in several weeks, if not a couple of months. I think since before Thanksgiving.

I think I'm desensitized to a lot of stuff. Thank goodness I'm not a hardcore drug abuser. I'd really be phucked.
 
I want to take some right now cause I'm pretty anxious, but I may be getting drug tested tonight and I'd rather not have any foreign substances in me :( .

I had some the other day, and I'd say it is a subtle feeling. It doesn't just hit you and become obvious, but a while after taking it you just feel good and upbeat. Made me a bit loopy (I think I had about 3 grams), but nothing intense. I'll probably try it again first thing in the morning tomorrow on an empty stomach.
 
Does Phenibut have a lasting effect? I took 1500 mgs 2 nighs in a row and I still sleep solid and the good feeling lasted for a couple od days although somewhat deminished
 
Yes...some people get accustomed to it far more quickly than others and either use it on an as-needed basis or 2-3 times per week without there being two days of use in a row.
 
custom said:
Yes...some people get accustomed to it far more quickly than others and either use it on an as-needed basis or 2-3 times per week without there being two days of use in a row.
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What I meant is, does the sort of drunk, euphoria, easy going feeling last longer than one day. It seemed to last 2-3 days after my back to back dosing of 1500 mgs.
 
luclyluciano said:
What I meant is, does the sort of drunk, euphoria, easy going feeling last longer than one day. It seemed to last 2-3 days after my back to back dosing of 1500 mgs.
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It usually lasts through the next day for me. However, this has severely diminished over time.
 
I guess it's because I am a first time user. It lasted 2-3 days which would be great so I'd only nee to use it 1-2 times per week.
 
Guys, remember...this is NOT the typical Phenibut that's out on the market! This is Invalid Link Removed that is specifically formulated for NP. Take a lower dose than what you would normally take with the other products on the market, and as Matt suggested, don't take doses for back to back days. Because of the improved potency and efficacy, Invalid Link Removed will last longer at a lower dose, therefore is MUCH more economical!
 
I can attest to this.

If you guys recall, I had tremendous results the last time I used Phenibut...I was on top of the world in more ways than one.

However, I tried it again this last weekend and I decided to up the dose from the 3g I used previously to about 6-8. Big mistake. Late that night I became extremely ill and essentially passed out about midnight and slept until about 2:30 the next day! When I woke up, I could not walk, could not talk, and could not focus my eyes. I was puking literally every 10 minutes and this went on until about 9pm that night. I narrowly escaped being drug to the ER by my wife. I have never been so sick in my entire life.

Bottom line: this stuff is strong. Super strong. Please proceed with caution! I'd estimate this is at least twice as strong as other phenibut out there based on my 2 encounters with it.

Not many times will a company encourage lower dosing of their product...it saves you money and slows repeat sales...however, we are 100% not joking when we say this stuff is much more potent that other phenibut on the market. Remember to "start low and go slow."
 
Thanks for sharing your unfortunate experience, Matt. This clearly indicates how potent this compound is and how a little bit goes a LOOOOOONG ways. If you're wanting a nice nootropic effect, take a very small dose at home to assess tolerance first, otherwise you might unintentionally experience an intoxication effect.
 
Human biochemical individuality is an amazing thing. My wife seems to be almost completely immune to the effects of phenibut. She’s in excruciating pain from a muscle spasm underneath her scapula, and I’ve already sent her to my chiropractor several times. About a week ago she said something along the lines of “I really need a muscle relaxer.” Of course, a light bulb went off in my head and I said “here—try this.” I warned her not to drive until she thoroughly assessed its effects, and I also warned her that she may not be able to stay awake. But she can take the stuff until it’s squirting out of her ears with almost no sedative effects whatsoever. It’s definitely helping with the muscle spasms, but when I asked her about any sedative effects she said there were practically none. She feels a little relaxed when she takes it, but that’s about it. Which is just amazing, because I can take a gram or two and enjoy the best sleep I’ve had in years.
 
stryder said:
Guys, remember...this is NOT the typical Phenibut that's out on the market! This is Invalid Link Removed that is specifically formulated for NP. Take a lower dose than what you would normally take with the other products on the market, and as Matt suggested, don't take doses for back to back days. Because of the improved potency and efficacy, Invalid Link Removed will last longer at a lower dose, therefore is MUCH more economical!
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Why was the old stuff from 2008 much more effective, and produced a much more fun effect than the baking soda looking version now? The old stuff was great...
 
TripDog said:
Why was the old stuff from 2008 much more effective, and produced a much more fun effect than the baking soda looking version now? The old stuff was great...
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Do not know if the 2008 was the same stuff as 2005 I ordered mine in 2005 (used it for two-three years)and one gram was plenty enough. some days I would do 500 mgs and it would work very well.

I can not even imagine three grams yet alone yet alone six to eight. One gram had me out for twelve hours easy(was 210-220 though out that time peroid)
Custom, sorry to hear that you almost died.
 
Heya Trip. Not guaranteed ,but many believe there was a change in the manufacturing technique of the phenibut sometime in '09. Due to there being only ~2 sources from China, this problem cropped up with at all phenibut vendors. It's possible the change was going from a pure mixture to a racemic one.
 
shinobidoode said:
Wished I could have tried the old stuff...
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Just get the new NP phenibut. I've used both the old old...and the newest batch. The results were the same. Now the stuff in between was absolute garbage. I'd taken up to 10g with no effect. The new stuff and the really old stuff...1-2g is plenty.
 
Steveoph said:
Heya Trip. Not guaranteed ,but many believe there was a change in the manufacturing technique of the phenibut sometime in '09. Due to there being only ~2 sources from China, this problem cropped up with at all phenibut vendors. It's possible the change was going from a pure mixture to a racemic one.
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I highly doubt this was a racemic mix...as double dosing should yield the same results. This was not the case however.
 
I took 400 mg about an hour and 1/2 ago, just finished my second drink and feel like I have had 6 drinks. Very nice, relaxed feeling. I gotta say, this stuff is very good. 500 mg of the old Neurobalance from IBE never affected me like this. Gotta be careful I don't start 'drunk-dialing' lol...
 
No I weighed it. I took another 300 mg a little later. I woke up and felt kinda buzzed, and still feel pretty good. The effects do linger for a good day or so, and this version does seem stronger to me than past experiments. I can't imagine the mega dosing that some of you guys do.

Also, you know that feeling you get after you eat a whole bag of movie theater popcorn covered in butter? The gut rot, uggh-in- the-stomach kind of feeling? Phenibut, and gaba too, seem to always do this to me...
 
My buddy just got some in from the planet and I gave it a whirl. I didn't feel anything from it and I was a bit disappointed considering I've heard good things and had never tried it before.
 
The range of responses to phenibut that I’ve seen are remarkable. Some people can take 3 grams and feel nothing, and some people are turned into plants by half a gram.
 
Booee said:
The range of responses to phenibut that I’ve seen are remarkable. Some people can take 3 grams and feel nothing, and some people are turned into plants by half a gram.
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I agree completely. I've noticed that I can handle anywhere from 1-2 grams and feel great. Though, on the other hand, I'll give my old lady about 500 mg and it knocks her right out.
 
Anyone that has the new super stuff what is the size of a standard dose, and what is the size of the scoop included.

Thanks.
 
Yes, it does wonders when you're stressed out or feeling overwhelmed with things going on in your life. I take 1/2 the scoop enclosed and feel more calm, confident, and just really...really good :rambo:
 
Chops89 said:
Time for me to take a few weeks off. Took 4 grams yesterday and felt very little.
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Me too. I’m on my fourth bottle. Shoulda just ordered the 500 gram size to begin with. Probably will next time. I know I shouldn’t be using it every day, but I’m just unwilling to give up my newfound ability to sleep through the night. However, if you’re only using it for sleep (which is what I’m doing), I think I’ve found a way to keep dose escalation from occurring. I’ve been using it in conjunction with doxylamine (Unisom), and the two seem to be synergestic with each other. Right now I’m experimenting with phenibut doses in the 1 – 3 gram range, taken with either 25 or 50 milligrams of doxylamine. The interesting thing is that the lower doses seem to work just as well as the higher ones, and the effect doesn’t seem to be wearing off. I’ve been doing this for about 6 weeks now, and there doesn’t appear to be any diminishment of its effects, and I’m not escalating dosages. If you’re going to try this, read the labels carefully and make sure that you’re buying doxylamine and NOT diphenhydramine—OTC sleep aids can be either chemical, and the Unisom brand markets both. Costco has the best price; you can buy it for less than ten cents a tablet in a two-bottle value pack.
 
My 50 grm tub had no scoop.

For those looking for sleep it also works synergistically with good ol' melatonin. Best sleep of my life when I took 250 mg of pheni(yes that's all) and 1 mg of melatonin. Throwing in a little theanine put me out for nine hours solid.
 
Booee said:
It’s just a standard quarter teaspoon—approximately 750 milligrams. I actually just throw them away, as the handle is too short to make the scoop useful.
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Oh I was not complaining, I would probably use a spoon and weigh it out anyways.
 
Just got my order of Super Phenibut after reading about alot of peoples positive results with it. I've never ever tried it before. Tried dosing about 1/4 tsp split in half 2 hours apart. Maybe I just didn't take enough, but with my first time doing it I didn't want to risk taking too much. I didn't feel any effect from it whatsoever. Maybe I'll try a larger dose if I try it again
 
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