they must be on obama's payroll.still I see plenty of people buying muscle milk RTDs at the gym or dropping by the smoothie place after a workout
they must be on obama's payroll.still I see plenty of people buying muscle milk RTDs at the gym or dropping by the smoothie place after a workout
Soy juicer protein/creatine blitz from goldz... I see this all the time. It is sick...still I see plenty of people buying muscle milk RTDs at the gym or dropping by the smoothie place after a workout
The price is a bitch but thanks for making it.It will probably not make it to any distributor, the markup is just not their to give distributors the margin they need.
-Eric
I dunno, inflation is down, energy cost is down. If you didn't have a variable rate mortgage and didn't lose your job, you aren't in any different shoes today than you were 3 years ago other than maybe your 401k being worth a bit less, and your house being worth a lot less, neither of which affects daily spending.they must be on obama's payroll.
Luckily and thankfully this is where i am at.I dunno, inflation is down, energy cost is down. If you didn't have a variable rate mortgage and didn't lose your job, you aren't in any different shoes today than you were 3 years ago other than maybe your 401k being worth a bit less, and your house being worth a lot less, neither of which affects daily spending.
I dont know about where you live, but the price of food has sky rocketed around here, gas price is at $2.60. Inflation is stagnant. My electric bill went up 30% in the last 10 months.I dunno, inflation is down, energy cost is down. If you didn't have a variable rate mortgage and didn't lose your job, you aren't in any different shoes today than you were 3 years ago other than maybe your 401k being worth a bit less, and your house being worth a lot less, neither of which affects daily spending.
Got that rightpeptopro and GPLC are both not cheap.
I'm in Florida, so one of the worst hit areas at least as far as house prices, and food prices seem pretty stagnant to me, sure gas is 2.60 but it was higher thru most of 2006 (3 years ago). Not so sure on my electric bill, it may have gone up some.I dont know about where you live, but the price of food has sky rocketed around here, gas price is at $2.60. Inflation is stagnant. My electric bill went up 30% in the last 10 months.
My condo took a HIT hard... went from 105K and now it is valued at 85K.I'm in Florida, so one of the worst hit areas at least as far as house prices, and food prices seem pretty stagnant to me, sure gas is 2.60 but it was higher thru most of 2006 (3 years ago). Not so sure on my electric bill, it may have gone up some.
better be putting that $5 a day towards a college fund!!! supplements are luxury items, it's hard to justify spending over a limited amount on them. it seems my set amount keeps creeping higher and i keep getting less and less supps, a perfect example of inflation. btw we are in 3rd year of a union negotiated contract, and believe me brother 3.5% yearly increase aint keeping up- union said be happy we saved your jobs- that don't seem like an ideal economic situation to me.:cheers:Oh geez, the identical house to mine sold for $450k at its peak, and my last tax assesment was for $180k. But that doesn't really affect my day to day spending, having had child #3 sure did tho....
What are you talking about T?.. I can see why he has no problem spending $50 every 10 days... he lives in what was once a $450K house... dude has to have some money!better be putting that $5 a day towards a college fund!!! supplements are luxury items, it's hard to justify spending over a limited amount on them. it seems my set amount keeps creeping higher and i keep getting less and less supps, a perfect example of inflation. btw we are in 3rd year of a union negotiated contract, and believe me brother 3.5% yearly increase aint keeping up- union said be happy we saved your jobs- that don't seem like an ideal economic situation to me.:cheers:
yeah, it's a biitch being an hourly wage earner. i guess i see things differently, my money gets watched CLOSELY!!!What are you talking about T?.. I can see why he has no problem spending $50 every 10 days... he lives in what was once a $450K house... dude has to have some money!
Wife? We were thinking about changing what appears on the billing statement.yeah, it's a biitch being an hourly wage earner. i guess i see things differently, my money gets watched CLOSELY!!!
Hahaha... Donation for Down Syndrome Research!Wife? We were thinking about changing what appears on the billing statement.
-Eric
You got off easy. My house was worth 800k and is worth 550k max now.My condo took a HIT hard... went from 105K and now it is valued at 85K.
Are you all going by your tax documents? I go by the average of sales of places with common square footage in my area. If you go by your tax statement every year, might as well be pissing in the wind.You got off easy. My house was worth 800k and is worth 550k max now.
Those are the comps in my area, and I just had an appraisal done too.Are you all going by your tax documents? I go by the average of sales of places with common square footage in my area. If you go by your tax statement every year, might as well be pissing in the wind.
Well then that blows. I assume you bought your house at the very peak of what we all knew was a bubble?Those are the comps in my area, and I just had an appraisal done too.
Actually I bought it in 2000 for 350k. Im still ahead of the game at least.Well then that blows. I assume you bought your house at the very peak of what we all knew was a bubble?
OH NICE.Actually I bought it in 2000 for 350k. Im still ahead of the game at least.
That doesn't contain GPLC or PeptoPro, so....I really like the profile on this just not the price :/ Don't see how it would be too much more benificial then accelerade.
Really??the only decent thing in those products is the whey protein isolate.36 grams of sugar per bottle and artificial food coloring..There is nothing in those products that helps improve nitric oxide retention..and the gel is even worse with high fructose corn syrup in it. Accelerade looks like it is your basic gatorade with protein in it..I really like the profile on this just not the price :/ Don't see how it would be too much more benificial then accelerade.
hahahaHahaha... Donation for Down Syndrome Research!
Not even in the same league. :wtf1:I really like the profile on this just not the price :/ Don't see how it would be too much more benificial then accelerade.
That doesn't contain GPLC or PeptoPro, so....
Really??the only decent thing in those products is the whey protein isolate.36 grams of sugar per bottle and artificial food coloring..There is nothing in those products that helps improve nitric oxide retention..and the gel is even worse with high fructose corn syrup in it. Accelerade looks like it is your basic gatorade with protein in it..
Not even in the same league. :wtf1:
As I have said before to each his own, personally I feel WMZ is the biggest wasted in the industry, and crushes my stomach. GPLC rocks, I eat carbs all day, so I do need any carb sources in my pwo, I would have prefer to see creatine mono/beta-alanine/peptopro/Grapeseed ectract/GPLC, and I would have looked it twice. Coming from personal experience, nothing out there compares to GPLC, however I would rather buy it in bulk and it with a cheaper stim based pwo to save money and to use post workout as well, hope I was able to relay some insight from an athlete's perspective.:cheers:Like a few people mentioned earlier, it doesn't matter how you pitch it.. the price is still steep. Your gonna need your sugars during workouts if your working out for extended periods of times. Nitric oxide products can be benificial but they also have tolerance issues. A BIG downside. Waxy maize is the only real product i've found to give you sustained pumps every time without tolerance. Gatorade has been used by athletes for years. Yes there's sponsorship behind it and yes research has shown there could be better intra workout supplements but what I was saying was "much more beneficial". You can argue the artificial flavoring and colors. I don't like that junk either. I'm not trying to down sale the product. Like I said. I like the profile. The only problem was the price. lol.
really no one has any comments on this one???:twak:So ive been thinking and im going to go on my rant.....
so we all know there are "me too" companies that have similar but slightly different products as the other me too's out there, which target the younger kids who like the "formulas" and "all in ones" and that is perfect, they are usually economical and taste good,
on the other hand you have companies that target the "experienced" or"hardcore" lifter. This is the case with Primordial Performance, tey are targeting the more experienced lifter that is part the "formulas" they know what works and they want it(think BCAA CREATINE) Now pre max is slightly expenive but for the experienced lifters that have taken all the **** that doesnt work and they want an effective product and are willing to pay for it.
I dont feel that PP targeted the 18yr old beginner lifter with Pre Max, i feel the targeted the bodybuilder who has a full time job and appreciates quality.
Just my $.02
Too much truthiness. Hoping to see a discount code maybe for first time buyers. :cheers:really no one has any comments on this one???:twak:
The only thing thats gonna get massive is your credit card bill.Pre Max to the max. I am ordering and stuff the price tag...i wanna get massive.
Too much truthiness. Hoping to see a discount code maybe for first time buyers. :cheers:
Is it ever?its a sad sad day when truthfulness is not respected by the masses:sorry:
Thank you for that superior analytical scientific assessment, professor. Maybe your next conquest should be to reinvent scientific theory as a whole? :fing02::borladuck:"Since Ive been using PreMax before workouts, Ive been finding myself very hungry after my workout meal... like right after the meal.. this would be a good sign that protein synthesis is increased and muscle is being built.
-Eric"
This is probably the most unscientific assumption I have ever heard.
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