Tegs AMS's NEW 1andro & 4-ad UTT Review/Log (Unsponsored)

you may need some B-12 pre workout to get your energy levels up. 1000mcg works pretty darned well.

regardless, sounds like you still got a good workout in.
 
or play with the 4ad vs 1ad timing as the 1ad is causing the lethargy, and 4ad should help combat it.

you can try taking 25mg DHEA about 1/2 hr before the 1ad dose as well, it may help
 
TimberLakers said:
Both.
Click to expand...
Ahh ok...

MrBigPR said:
That must suck. Maybe give a run on the treadmill for 5 min, or watch a porno :dunno:?
Click to expand...
Ya it hit fast and only lasted maybe 30min? :rofl:

suncloud said:
you may need some B-12 pre workout to get your energy levels up. 1000mcg works pretty darned well.

regardless, sounds like you still got a good workout in.
Click to expand...

Thought about that in the gym today. Ill try some tomarrow for sure or a stim pill?

Ya it was a good workout at after that sleepyness went away! STOKED about the 50s for sure! I see this run going very well!

EasyEJL said:
or play with the 4ad vs 1ad timing as the 1ad is causing the lethargy, and 4ad should help combat it.

you can try taking 25mg DHEA about 1/2 hr before the 1ad dose as well, it may help
Click to expand...

Ok That is an idea as well... I will mess around with it and see what happens. I have just been using them together to make it easier, which regardless easier or not dont matter much at this point :lol:

1/2hr befor 1ad dose i can do! TY for the suggestion Easy!
 
TimberLakers said:
Hey Teg, just reviewing your setup.

Why are you taking Cycle Assist? Question being - the recommended serving is 4 caps AM, 4 caps PM on a methyl cycle. Are you just taking it for overall health?
Click to expand...

Cycle Assist can be useful on any ph cycle. While the liver toxicity risks are higher with a methyl cycle, there is alot more to Cycle Assist than just liver care.

TimberLakers said:
Cycle Assist might be overkill. You could probably just pick up some Hawthorn Berry for BP... I don't think you'll need the liver protectant and the Saw Palmetto (hair) etc...

Not that the CA is a bad thing persay. Certainly wont hurt - but I know the stuff is expensive, and would likely be better served saving for a methyl cycle.
Click to expand...

The Saw Palmetto would be more beneficial in this case for prostate support. It helping with hair loss is just a nice side.

MrBigPR said:
Why Suppress C during cycle?

It also doesn't sound like a good product. Cortisol control is something you would want systematically, not locally according to the carrier per the bottle.
Click to expand...

Suppress-C is normally saved for PCT.

The product is systemic. It is not localized and that was stated in the intro threads on it.

Not sure how you can say that it doesnt sound like a good product being that the BAET has good feedback, but poor oral bioavailability, so going the topical route makes it alot more beneficial. Hopefully that statement was made with the false assumption that it was localized.

AZMIDLYF said:
The Suppress C would be better served at the back end of PCT right?
Click to expand...

There are two schools of thought, adding in a cortisol suppression product at the beginning of PCT, or adding one in 2 weeks into PCT.

MrBigPR said:
....
Click to expand...

Teg said:
Ya thinking of using B12 in the morn/afternoon. I have the 100mcg tabs.
Click to expand...

I use the methyl B12 at 5000 mcg once to twice per day. I dont really feel regular B12 at all.

I dont like the really jacked up Stim products myself. My favorite is Focus XT by SNS now that it has been re-released. There are some good reviews here and at bb.com on it in terms of taste and effectiveness. It doesnt jack you up, but makes you just feel better in general and be more clear headed.


Good luck with the log and thanks for the invite.
 
Agree that Cycle Support is beneficial for any cycle, but you're also speaking with a vested interest. I still think its overkill when cost benefit is taken into account...

That being said, I do use the product - so I'm not being a hater by any stretch.
 
TimberLakers said:
Agree that Cycle Support is beneficial for any cycle, but you're also speaking with a vested interest. I still think its overkill when cost benefit is taken into account...

That being said, I do use the product - so I'm not being a hater by any stretch.
Click to expand...

Eh, actually speak my mind pretty much regardless of interest. I dont blame you for doubting that, but anyone familiar with my posting history can pretty much attest to it. I have even been asked repeatedly why I always recomend Liver Assist XT over Cycle Assist in PCT because it is recomending away from our own product, but truthful answer is that while Cycle Assist offers good liver protection for on cycle purposes, Liver Assist offers protection and detox properties which I feel is ideal of PCT.

As for expense of Cycle Assist, it is available for 29.95, which is cheaper than most people would pay for any combination of effectively dosed ingredients that is in there. You are definately entitled to your opinion on it, but even for non methylated cycles, overall cycle protection is very important.
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
Eh, actually speak my mind pretty much regardless of interest. I dont blame you for doubting that, but anyone familiar with my posting history can pretty much attest to it. I have even been asked repeatedly why I always recomend Liver Assist XT over Cycle Assist in PCT because it is recomending away from our own product, but truthful answer is that while Cycle Assist offers good liver protection for on cycle purposes, Liver Assist offers protection and detox properties which I feel is ideal of PCT.

As for expense of Cycle Assist, it is available for 29.95, which is cheaper than most people would pay for any combination of effectively dosed ingredients that is in there. You are definately entitled to your opinion on it, but even for non methylated cycles, overall cycle protection is very important.
Click to expand...

Yes, I speak my mind as well.

I already said I dig Cycle Assist... I just finished using it...

Again, you should read what I posted previously. Teg was only going to half dose the CAssist, I recommended he either replace CA with a full dose of HB - for Blood Pressure support (which would be of the greatest concern here, in my opinion) - or actually committ to dosing Cycle Assist as per the bottles instructions (i.e. a full 8 pill dosage).
 
Teg how long do you wait to workout after you dose your andro?
 
TimberLakers said:
Nice video Teg.... Cracked me up. I actually have a "runner" at my gym... and the weird smiley dude.
Click to expand...

Ya i seen that and was like wow... I have some of those at the gym to! I see a guy there do the running man right by the treadmill, and he'll get on, then off?

One i seen not to long ago 2guy doing preacher curls on the long flat bench doing it at the same time on the same bench. It looked really gay... Ive seen them there befor doing similer things????
 
TimberLakers said:
Yes, I speak my mind as well.

I already said I dig Cycle Assist... I just finished using it...

Again, you should read what I posted previously. Teg was only going to half dose the CAssist, I recommended he either replace CA with a full dose of HB - for Blood Pressure support (which would be of the greatest concern here, in my opinion) - or actually committ to dosing Cycle Assist as per the bottles instructions (i.e. a full 8 pill dosage).
Click to expand...

I did miss the part where he said he was going to half dose it. Definately should be done at full dosage regardless.
 
Teg said:
HAHA WTF?
Invalid Link Removed
Click to expand...

HAHAHAH.

Hey I wheel in place when trying relax and keep my heart rate descent. Is that acceptable? Wheeling is like a steady bouncing from one heel to another while rotating your feel a bit. Picked it up in wrestling in HS, and its just a way to not let the body start to go down.

I so have to do the philosophical approach. I would die if someone could talk to me about socrates in the gym.
 
Ayyye.... Same Thing Today..... 1000mcgs didnt even touch me lol owell.....

Tues- Legs and Arms

Squats- These just sucked. Had that Lethargic feeling again.... But....
135x12
155x10
175x7 <---Form Sucked on the last couple =/
135x12

Leg Press- It picked up here on the 4plts x 12reps
2plts x12
4plts x12
6pltsx 8
6plts x8

Leg Curls-
70x12
80x10
90x7

Seated Calf Raises- Waited 15secs between sets
2plts x25
2plts x25
2plts x25

BB Curls-
45x12
55x10
75x3
45x12

Hammer Curl Bar- Bar weight not included
30x12
40x8
40x6

Skulls- Bar weight not included
40x12
50x10
50x10

Pushdowns-
100x12
100x12

Weight= 159.5 :)


So today was sucking at first, buuut still had lethargy till Leg Press's... But still very happy with the workout! Everything after squats felt strong and had some strong aggression goin on but a good mood feeling with it? Make sense??? Im glad to see weight going up already! I may have done a bit much today but i really started gettin in that groove!!! :lol:

Ok so that is all for today guys!
 
Killer workout bro! Have you gotten ur BP checked recently? You can try and throw in a light dose of stims and work up depending on BP and how you are feeling overall.
 
What are you doing pre w/o for a warm up Teg?
 
Zero V said:
dang man! looking nice, very nice
Click to expand...
Thanks Bro!! :)

MrBigPR said:
Killer workout bro! Have you gotten ur BP checked recently? You can try and throw in a light dose of stims and work up depending on BP and how you are feeling overall.
Click to expand...
Many Thanks Big Man! Not yet... Doing that in the morn when i go to the store. Gotta pick up some more foods!!

Overall, WONDERFUL! Even my Crohns has subsided a bit:dunno: Only thing at the moment is Lethargy.....

TimberLakers said:
:wtf: Jay.... not cool bro...
Click to expand...
Wow, and to think, he was a good down to earth guy. When ya think ya know some one :28: :toofunny:

AZMIDLYF said:
What are you doing pre w/o for a warm up Teg?
Click to expand...
Depends, but typically its whatever workout im doing, just at a light warmup weight 1or2sets.... Today was 95x15... Any other suggestions?

MrBigPR said:
:wave2:

:borladuck: :dunno:My bad...
Click to expand...
:rofl: Its ok, i forgive you! But just this once! :lol:
 
If you ever have knee pain or anything, I'd suggest a brisk walk or light jog before squats... 95 might be heavy if you're hitting it cold. Sometimes my buddy and I will do a couple sets with the bar only if we know its goin down big that day.
 
TimberLakers said:
If you ever have knee pain or anything, I'd suggest a brisk walk or light jog before squats... 95 might be heavy if you're hitting it cold. Sometimes my buddy and I will do a couple sets with the bar only if we know its goin down big that day.
Click to expand...
Ok.... Noted! I do just the bar on bench for 1or2sets...
 
I always get my ABs in before my leg and back days. On chest and shoulder days I warm up with rotator exercises. By the time for weights I am sweating and fired up.
 
Yeah chest or back i hang from a bar and just hold it for a bit. then do the same in front leaning back ward forward. Also do rotator excercises with a 5 lb weight. legs i just do some yoga and breathing excercises rub my legs down. seems to help i dont know what to do about the knee problem though. Im still trying to figure it out also.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
I always get my ABs in before my leg and back days. On chest and shoulder days I warm up with rotator exercises. By the time for weights I am sweating and fired up.
Click to expand...
Well i have a core day via TLs workout Better known as the Timber Split (He paid me to say that!) :lol:

And speaking of sweating, i was sweatin today... I dont sweat, well very often anywyas, but it was right after last 2sets of sqauts it started??? Hmmm A side perhaps? Guess we'll see????


And guys i just want to let you all know that i am feeling great and wonderful. No probs at all. Keeping a close eye on everything! Doing BP tomarrow and will report back on that as well. Crohns has actually gotten better as well. Went to one of the regular support groups around here and a guy found the same study i did about Test./Viagra for it.... So who know maybe a connection??? :lol:


AMS reps or anyone??? I am thinking about dosing 1st dose 30min PRE wo dose 2nd dose that nite.... Say i dosed at 2pm lifted at 230, then took the 2nd dose at 930/10pm? Is that ok? or would it defeat the purpose?? My guess is no it wouldnt matter...... Suggestions???
 
Im late coming in your review here, but what was your body weight to start? Where is it now? Are you looking more for bulk in this cycle? i used the original ams stack, didnt do diddle for me ,but things can change. I did get lathargic tho and had to stim up to get motivated at times.
How far along are you in this cycle? sorry for all the questions at once. good luck
 
good workout yesterday...you've got some pretty good strength for your weight!
 
Your dosing sounds right on - provided you aren't messing up your sleep...

I think that I could sleep in the middle of a bomb range on 1-Andro though.
 
TimberLakers said:
Your dosing sounds right on - provided you aren't messing up your sleep...

I think that I could sleep in the middle of a bomb range on 1-Andro though.
Click to expand...

I hear you on that one TL!
 
jef2007 said:
Im late coming in your review here, but what was your body weight to start? Where is it now? Are you looking more for bulk in this cycle? i used the original ams stack, didnt do diddle for me ,but things can change. I did get lathargic tho and had to stim up to get motivated at times.
How far along are you in this cycle? sorry for all the questions at once. good luck
Click to expand...
Starting BW= 157, now = 159.5. Yes on the Bulk, but gotta get stronger befor bulk comes to, so strength is part of the game. Sat. will be 1 week in!

Glad you dropped in!

delsolrob said:
good workout yesterday...you've got some pretty good strength for your weight!
Click to expand...
Thank You, and Thank You Again Rob! Im really excited to see if i can get back my old numbers.

TimberLakers said:
Your dosing sounds right on - provided you aren't messing up your sleep...

I think that I could sleep in the middle of a bomb range on 1-Andro though.
Click to expand...
Nope sleep is great!

Hahaha

AZMIDLYF said:
I hear you on that one TL!
Click to expand...
Damn Lethary....

Its only been right around gym time tho?? :lol: DOH!
 
Keep it going TEG.... Im following this Log religiously as Im running this exact cycle ina couple weeks... Keep working hard Bro
 
Teg said:
Crohns has actually gotten better as well. Went to one of the regular support groups around here and a guy found the same study i did about Test./Viagra for it.... So who know maybe a connection??? :lol:


AMS reps or anyone??? I am thinking about dosing 1st dose 30min PRE wo dose 2nd dose that nite.... Say i dosed at 2pm lifted at 230, then took the 2nd dose at 930/10pm? Is that ok? or would it defeat the purpose?? My guess is no it wouldnt matter...... Suggestions???
Click to expand...

i always take a dose of anything 30min pre workout.

i'm actually not terribly surprised that anabolics are helping your Crohns - anabolics helped me with a GI issue as well, though that's maybe not the greatest reason for taking an anabolic, consider it a welcome side effect :)
 
Teg said:
AMS reps or anyone??? I am thinking about dosing 1st dose 30min PRE wo dose 2nd dose that nite.... Say i dosed at 2pm lifted at 230, then took the 2nd dose at 930/10pm? Is that ok? or would it defeat the purpose?? My guess is no it wouldnt matter...... Suggestions???
Click to expand...

Damn 7 pages deep and I just show up. :( Only a week into cycle though! :nervous:

Anyways like TL mentioned just be careful on dosing too close to bed as it may stimulate your CNS and make it harder to fall asleep. Outside of that dosing at the same time of day is important so just try to stick too whatever you decide.
 
He has every piece of the puzzle...now it's just a matter of the time to put it together.
 
ECUKingbuddy said:
Keep it going TEG.... Im following this Log religiously as Im running this exact cycle ina couple weeks... Keep working hard Bro
Click to expand...
Trying brotha.... Running into lil snags here and there with things, but im ironing them out.... Just making sure i lift right, and eat! ;)

suncloud said:
i always take a dose of anything 30min pre workout.

i'm actually not terribly surprised that anabolics are helping your Crohns - anabolics helped me with a GI issue as well, though that's maybe not the greatest reason for taking an anabolic, consider it a welcome side effect :)
Click to expand...
I tryed dosing 30pre, worked like a champ! TY Bro!

Ya! Its quite nice, but of course not the greatest reason, but is a VERY welcome bonus! Tho believe me or not, i had some constipation yesterday! I havnt had that in like, well since i was a wee lil lad! :lol: But then again, im putting away, the food like theres no tomarrow! If i keep eattin like this ill have to start taking Miralax :rofl:
Royd The Noyd said:
Damn 7 pages deep and I just show up. :( Only a week into cycle though! :nervous:

Anyways like TL mentioned just be careful on dosing too close to bed as it may stimulate your CNS and make it harder to fall asleep. Outside of that dosing at the same time of day is important so just try to stick too whatever you decide.
Click to expand...
Hey Roy!!! Im glad you came by!!! WooHoo!!! Glad to have the AMS reps coming in ;)

I tryed it at the same time the last 2days and the 2nd is around bed time and no probs, sooo its working! Strength is up along with WEIGHT :)

jef2007 said:
wow you just started then ,2lbs is good start.
Click to expand...

Yup, make it more now! 160.5 as of today! Im LEANING OUT TOO!!!!


GMG760 said:
Teg's the man.
Click to expand...
:notworthy:

AZMIDLYF said:
He has every piece of the puzzle...now it's just a matter of the time to put it together.
Click to expand...
Yes! Thanks to yall for the support and advice! I can honestly say that you guys have made me a much better/stronger lifter! :notworthy:

TimberLakers said:
2 pounds... to his peen.
Click to expand...
:toofunny:
 
Wow what a day! Nailed it! STRONG DAY!

Wen- Shoulders/Traps

DB Press-
35x12
40x12
45x10
50x7 PR

Side Laterals-
10x12
15x10
20x8
10x12

DB Front Raises-
15x12
20x10
25x5

Upright BB Rows-
45x12
65x8
75x6

HS Shrungs-
2plts x15
2plts x15
3plts x12
3plts x12

DB Shrugs- Waited 30sec between set
35x25
35x25

Weight = 160

Sooooo yesterday, day wasnt the best "FEELING" day. That being i was constipated :lol: Make fun if you want, but i havnt had that feeling since i was a kid! Guess im eatting just a bit much rofl Sooo i didnt eat AS MUCH but still got down some good cals/protein! Felt Soild tho through workout and had no lethargy during! Dosed 30min pre and felt a lil tired about 2hrs after but nothing bad. Then one of my friends wanted to take me out to eat. Sooo she let me choose and i picked outback! Sooooo ya, the steak was what i was about there ;)

Sides- Lethargy and a Good Mood/Feeling!

Note- I noticed 4-ad is THICKER then 1andro!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top