Gtarzan81
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I might just be crazy enough to try it. I can then truly say "1-t tren is the nuts!":fool2:
1-T Tren (10wk) + Glycobol Log
- Thread starter Steveoph
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I might just be crazy enough to try it. I can then truly say "1-t tren is the nuts!":fool2:
DR.D
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Steveoph
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Day 13 Cardio/Off
Weight:189.5 Fasted (After Cardio)
60mins, 1249 cals, 6.01 mi.
0700: 2 Glycybol, 2 Recreate, 2g. ALCAR, EndoAmp
0730-0830 Elliptical
0900- Steelcut Oats, Berries, Whey
1200- Chicken Chili
1500 --> Still coming
Omelets, Stews and Chicken Ceasars
Comments: Oddly no hunger from the Glycobol. Didn't even feel hungry post-cardio, but that does suppress appetite. I sweated like crazy; 1-TT really upped the ante with sweat, so that 189.5 might be slightly dehydrated.
Today was the 3rd day of the SA application and I feel the libido is a bit better; tonight I'll see how I feel. Still planning on starting the hCG Sunday or Monday. Getting liver retested on Monday; I can get hormones done again since it's free in Canada, not sure what the utility of anything other than estrogen would be though.
Also I had a pretty odd&brief headache lastnight, and again a brief one this afternoon. Checking my BP since its about time anyways, probably nothing. Just need to drink more water more than anything else I think.
Weight:189.5 Fasted (After Cardio)
60mins, 1249 cals, 6.01 mi.
0700: 2 Glycybol, 2 Recreate, 2g. ALCAR, EndoAmp
0730-0830 Elliptical
0900- Steelcut Oats, Berries, Whey
1200- Chicken Chili
1500 --> Still coming
Omelets, Stews and Chicken Ceasars Comments: Oddly no hunger from the Glycobol. Didn't even feel hungry post-cardio, but that does suppress appetite. I sweated like crazy; 1-TT really upped the ante with sweat, so that 189.5 might be slightly dehydrated.
Today was the 3rd day of the SA application and I feel the libido is a bit better; tonight I'll see how I feel. Still planning on starting the hCG Sunday or Monday. Getting liver retested on Monday; I can get hormones done again since it's free in Canada, not sure what the utility of anything other than estrogen would be though.
Also I had a pretty odd&brief headache lastnight, and again a brief one this afternoon. Checking my BP since its about time anyways, probably nothing. Just need to drink more water more than anything else I think.
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
Just good absorption; works quite well IMO.
Still self-rubbing
I know that some testosterone patches did some research into this too; pretty good target. I haven't put 1-TT on the nutsac since Formestane or SA goes on the lower torso though.
Sweet innocence of the younger generation?That's the 1TT. Progestins are thermogenic. That's why guys used to use dec so much for shredding back in the day.You're too young to remember that Steve, lol.
That's the G-bol. If cutting is your main goal, maybe drop back 1 cap from what you're doing now. I'd still keep carbs high around the w/o's though.
Ya know, maybe you should add some SX in the morning, or another good stim of your choosing? It would attenuate appetite and restore energy levels, which would allow you to keep clickin' along without having to modify anything else probably.
Definitely agree the sweating is the 1-TT. No night sweats though, I just notice it while working out or I'm particularly stress and got the adrenaline going. The hunger from the Glycobol seems hit or miss on some days; today I'm not hungry at all but last time, exact same conditions, I was starving... hmmm Identical PWO meal, except this time a tad less oats, and 2x100g yogurts instead.
I might try out the SX; I have the full bottle and was curious to try it but I know how people suggest avoiding stims while on a cycle. I get 50mg/day from the Recreate, I could drop that and try a SX perhaps but it would likely make me too energized for my job which is in the lab with not too many ways to burn off energy.
Do you still notice the burning? I only noticed it that first time; every single dose after, including fasted like today has no discomfort.i love glycobol somewhere around 5-6 pills a day!!! even with lower carbs im gaining
although 9 or 10 gbols in one day is not reccommended by me or my stomach
I *might* be able to do them on Monday with the liver. Did you mean ALT/AST? I don't know how fast the cholesterol levels go bad, but that would be an interesting test . I don't like fasted bloodwork though lol.
Rubbing the SA on the nutsack after a bit of chafing from the cardio workout has led to a bit of burning on the past; not low alcohol!
It's the weekend!
Off to home; going to get in a good meal. The workout plan is Deadlifts and ?Legs? tomorrow, and then upper body on Sunday. Still not sure if I'm going to sign up to a different gym; my university gym is closed on Sundays which throws a wrench in my workout plans :frustrate
Sorry again the T-911 isn't up
I got Sam to put in a good 1st order of 12 units, they arrived on Wed, 10AM... 
I think they've just been crazy busy with all the ATW orders, I hope you gents got your protein. May 25th is Memorial Day, I haven't gotten word yet, but we did a sale last year dedlifter1
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log looks great so far steve, i sweat like a beast without supps, id probably flood the gym on this stuff.
DR.D
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It could be a sign of borderline dehydration, from excessive perspiration perhaps? Theoretically, you should be getting thirsty too. If you don't, it may indicated a blunted insulin response. I don't know, but in that case you wouldn't really get hungry either.
DR.D
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Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
And if your gym lacks air-conditioning in the free weight room, except some major sweating when it gets hotter:684:
I drink about 1.4L during my workout, and come off only about 0.5lb dehydrated, from pre 1-TT measurements. I can up the water intake, but I take in a fair amount of H2O.
Hmm might just get the liver done, and get the liver panel done in/after PCT.
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
Day 14: Legs Sat. May 9th
Weight: ? 196.5 ? Diff. scale at goodlife
Workout:
ATG Squats 175x7,4,5,5,5 Still not much improvement here, but I did get 7 reps in.
Leg Extensions & Curls 4x9
Leg Press 7x~10 V. Deep, often stopped then put in 2 more
Cardio: 20 mins Elliptical PWO (Shirt was drenched!)
Glycobol:
Took 3 PreBreakfast and felt a bit of a burning sensation for a minute. Had 128g (1 Cup.) OatBran, 1c. Blueberries and 1.5Sc WPI. Filled me up, and didn't feel particularly hungry afterwards. I was trying to assess a pump, but I find it easier to tell when the upper body is pumped than lower body. Didn't notice anything noteworthy, but as seen by the weight, the glycogen might be up.
Depending on when I work out, I will have 1c. Oatbran+ 1c. Berries Pre and/or PostWO, which will provide ~66g Copmplex Carbs, 16g Sugars from the berries. Did this pre and PostWO today; at this rate the 22.5lbs will only last 40 days
Blood Pressure: 115/74, Pulse 75
Got it read yesterday after work at 1730; I walked home, had dinner, walked over and was kind of shocked to see 114/74 , Pulse 70. I figured perhaps the cardio that morning had elevated it, so I remeasured this AM PreWO. 115/74, Pulse 75. Both times I did the test twice to confirm. This has me definitely concerned since my resting HR has gone +20 in under a week. I was expecting perhaps a bit of a BP increase. Also the headaches I'm getting might be water related, but I don't think that is the case.
I will be starting 2x400mg of Grape Seed Extract ED, and 2x2caps of Hawthorn Berry ED. Hopefully I can bring the HR and BP down. if I wasnt at the public library, I would post up some studies on the various benefits of Hawthorn Berry, but suffice to say it may help with a wide variety of cardiovascular aspects.
Also Goodlife has a one-week openhouse, so I'm trying out the new gym for the next 7 days. The 196.5 might be off; I know the scale at my gym is +5lbs, so I always subtract 5 from what it says. The bonus is they're open on Sundays, and open early so I can do fasted cardio on the weekend. Downside is its too far to workout here during my lunch break.
Libido was definitely back up with the Sustain; put on Formestane today, but will likely keep doing 3on/3off even with the hCG during my cycle to keep the libido up.
Lethargy is not really noticeable; it's a rainy day so Im' feeling a bit tired, but I'll keep an eye on it. Today took no Recreate to take some time off the small 50mg dose.
No nipple sensitivity.
Weight: ? 196.5 ? Diff. scale at goodlife
Workout:
ATG Squats 175x7,4,5,5,5 Still not much improvement here, but I did get 7 reps in.
Leg Extensions & Curls 4x9
Leg Press 7x~10 V. Deep, often stopped then put in 2 more
Cardio: 20 mins Elliptical PWO (Shirt was drenched!)
Glycobol:
Took 3 PreBreakfast and felt a bit of a burning sensation for a minute. Had 128g (1 Cup.) OatBran, 1c. Blueberries and 1.5Sc WPI. Filled me up, and didn't feel particularly hungry afterwards. I was trying to assess a pump, but I find it easier to tell when the upper body is pumped than lower body. Didn't notice anything noteworthy, but as seen by the weight, the glycogen might be up.
Depending on when I work out, I will have 1c. Oatbran+ 1c. Berries Pre and/or PostWO, which will provide ~66g Copmplex Carbs, 16g Sugars from the berries. Did this pre and PostWO today; at this rate the 22.5lbs will only last 40 days
Blood Pressure: 115/74, Pulse 75
Got it read yesterday after work at 1730; I walked home, had dinner, walked over and was kind of shocked to see 114/74 , Pulse 70. I figured perhaps the cardio that morning had elevated it, so I remeasured this AM PreWO. 115/74, Pulse 75. Both times I did the test twice to confirm. This has me definitely concerned since my resting HR has gone +20 in under a week. I was expecting perhaps a bit of a BP increase. Also the headaches I'm getting might be water related, but I don't think that is the case.
I will be starting 2x400mg of Grape Seed Extract ED, and 2x2caps of Hawthorn Berry ED. Hopefully I can bring the HR and BP down. if I wasnt at the public library, I would post up some studies on the various benefits of Hawthorn Berry, but suffice to say it may help with a wide variety of cardiovascular aspects.
Also Goodlife has a one-week openhouse, so I'm trying out the new gym for the next 7 days. The 196.5 might be off; I know the scale at my gym is +5lbs, so I always subtract 5 from what it says. The bonus is they're open on Sundays, and open early so I can do fasted cardio on the weekend. Downside is its too far to workout here during my lunch break.
Libido was definitely back up with the Sustain; put on Formestane today, but will likely keep doing 3on/3off even with the hCG during my cycle to keep the libido up.
Lethargy is not really noticeable; it's a rainy day so Im' feeling a bit tired, but I'll keep an eye on it. Today took no Recreate to take some time off the small 50mg dose.
No nipple sensitivity.
andrew732
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Day 14: Legs Sat. May 9th
Weight: ? 196.5 ? Diff. scale at goodlife
Workout:
ATG Squats 175x7,4,5,5,5 Still not much improvement here, but I did get 7 reps in.
Leg Extensions & Curls 4x9
Leg Press 7x~10 V. Deep, often stopped then put in 2 more
Cardio: 20 mins Elliptical PWO (Shirt was drenched!)
Glycobol:
Took 3 PreBreakfast and felt a bit of a burning sensation for a minute. Had 128g (1 Cup.) OatBran, 1c. Blueberries and 1.5Sc WPI. Filled me up, and didn't feel particularly hungry afterwards. I was trying to assess a pump, but I find it easier to tell when the upper body is pumped than lower body. Didn't notice anything noteworthy, but as seen by the weight, the glycogen might be up.
Depending on when I work out, I will have 1c. Oatbran+ 1c. Berries Pre and/or PostWO, which will provide ~66g Copmplex Carbs, 16g Sugars from the berries. Did this pre and PostWO today; at this rate the 22.5lbs will only last 40 days
Blood Pressure: 115/74, Pulse 75
Got it read yesterday after work at 1730; I walked home, had dinner, walked over and was kind of shocked to see 114/74 , Pulse 70. I figured perhaps the cardio that morning had elevated it, so I remeasured this AM PreWO. 115/74, Pulse 75. Both times I did the test twice to confirm. This has me definitely concerned since my resting HR has gone +20 in under a week. I was expecting perhaps a bit of a BP increase. Also the headaches I'm getting might be water related, but I don't think that is the case.
I will be starting 2x400mg of Grape Seed Extract ED, and 2x2caps of Hawthorn Berry ED. Hopefully I can bring the HR and BP down. if I wasnt at the public library, I would post up some studies on the various benefits of Hawthorn Berry, but suffice to say it may help with a wide variety of cardiovascular aspects.
Also Goodlife has a one-week openhouse, so I'm trying out the new gym for the next 7 days. The 196.5 might be off; I know the scale at my gym is +5lbs, so I always subtract 5 from what it says. The bonus is they're open on Sundays, and open early so I can do fasted cardio on the weekend. Downside is its too far to workout here during my lunch break.
Libido was definitely back up with the Sustain; put on Formestane today, but will likely keep doing 3on/3off even with the hCG during my cycle to keep the libido up.
Lethargy is not really noticeable; it's a rainy day so Im' feeling a bit tired, but I'll keep an eye on it. Today took no Recreate to take some time off the small 50mg dose.
No nipple sensitivity.
BP looks great, let us know how formestane treats you, want to use it during the summer.
dragonfly
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:wave2: there Steve, hmmmm, now you're giving me some ideas, I should either double my carbs or take only 1 Glycobol Pre-Breakfast.
That stuff makes me HUNGRY !!!!
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Was curious, do you notice anything from EndoAmp ? I was interested in it awhile ago, a bit pricey but hey...got to invest in your health
strategicmove
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Hawthorne Berry should help. Cocoa polyphenols found in dark chocolate (from Theobroma cacao L.) are also known to support optimal blood pressure (systolic and diastolic), enhance insulin sensitivity, improve HDL status, and support enhanced endothelial and cardiovascular functions, not to mention the significant antioxidant support they impart. All you need is to take a dose of 130mg of appropriately extracted cocoa polyphenols two to three times daily.
As for Grape Seed Extract, I personally find 800mg (95% OPC?) quite a huge dose. I would not go beyond 2 x 200mg (95% OPC) daily, as it is debatable if the benefits of GSE supplementation are linear beyond 200mg - 400mg (95% OPC) daily.
strategicmove
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dedlifter1
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good post buddy.
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
I usually do 2x100mg; since the GSE is so cheap at NP I figured it was so cheap why not. It's still at clearance pricing despite the fact we have been restocking it, but I'm not going to be the one to remind Sam to up the price on you guys
Good article; all I've got is some unrefined cocoa powder; I put 1-2 Tbsp in a PWO Oatbran + Choc Whey mix, might look into getting some standardized cocoa polyphenols but not sure yet.
Yup; useful question for those following the thread that are interested and 1-TT and might be concerned about the Prl sides.vitex controls prolactin gyno. not off topic
Never too late :cheers:
Trauma1
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Steve - You need to be taking in a fair share of osmotically active electrolytes (mainly sodium/potassium/magnesium) during your workout as well. This is why i recommend something along the line of gatorade. Your water intake is fairly sufficient, but these contributory factors here can greatly influence the desired end result of a euvolemic homeostasis.
The potential to lose a good amount of sodium though insensible fluid loss (sweating) can have more of an impact on some people than others.
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If you're losing a good amount of sodium this will increase your insensible fluid loss, as well as impair your intravascualr/intracellular fluid shifts. Dehydration secondary to this type of loss is typically slow in onset, but can begin to potentiate issues if not cumulatively replaced.
Just like D said, progestin-based compounds will drastically increase thermogenesis which will amplify this factor.
A good read, here:
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Trauma1
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I agree, J. I would correlate total daily I+O (input and output) here as well (although that's being pretty technical.) The color of the first urine of the day is a fairly good indicator of current overall hydration status.
Thirst is typically the first compensatory mechanism to kick into effect when hypovolemia is sensed, but it can be blunted under some circumstances. Fluid shifts, electrolyte factors, renal/adrenal/pituitary interventions (aldosterone/ADH) can also kick into effect to compensate here.
Vital signs can often tell a lot as well. Orthostatic vital signs being of particular use and fairly diagnostic in the absence of a basic metabolic panel to evaluate for dehydration, electrolyte imbalance, or renal insufficiency. A resting heart rate over 100 bpm with no concurrent reason for beta-1/2 adrenergic stimulation is concerning as well.
Some other physical signs while at rest such as warm and dry skin, dry mucous membranes (lips/mouth), decreased lacrimal tear production, alterations in blood pressure/heart rate, and concentrated urine may be evinced.
Trauma1
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Steveoph;1960972 [B said:
Steve - I'm really not sure why you're so concerned with vital signs that are WELL within normal limits? Keep in mind that there are many factors over the course of the day that can influence fluctuations; these include hormonal, physical, and hemodynamic components.
Cardiovascular conditioning does have some influence on your basal resting heart rate, but so does hormonal factors, fluid dynamic factors, hemodynamic factors, exercise factors, exogenous stimulants, and the list goes on.
You're just fine, buddy.
dedlifter1
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where's today's workout?
yes, where?:dunno:
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
where's today's workout?
Sorry guys; no internet after 5pm , and I left work early at 3:30 since I got in at 7:30 (Couldn't sleep, anxious about Friday). Got lots of updates coming
Re: Water Intake: Looking back at my 1st post, I forgot to mention Poseidon. During my cardio, I fill up 2 blender bottles to the brim (2x700mL). Each has 1 Scoop Poseidon, Tbsp of Leucine, Bulk BCAA's and some Xtend. During my workouts I will add 2 Scoops of Poseidon and BCAAs or EAAs + Leucine. If I do a non-workout day, I will usually have 2 Sc. of Poseidon upon waking (and a very nice flush lol) For urine colouration, it is generally clear (Unless I've taken Now ADAM in which case its yellow for a bit)
Sunday, Monday and Tuesday thus far are en route
learn
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Sorry guys; no internet after 5pm , and I left work early at 3:30 since I got in at 7:30 (Couldn't sleep, anxious about Friday). Got lots of updates coming
Re: Water Intake: Looking back at my 1st post, I forgot to mention Poseidon. During my cardio, I fill up 2 blender bottles to the brim (2x700mL). Each has 1 Scoop Poseidon, Tbsp of Leucine, Bulk BCAA's and some Xtend. During my workouts I will add 2 Scoops of Poseidon and BCAAs or EAAs + Leucine. If I do a non-workout day, I will usually have 2 Sc. of Poseidon upon waking (and a very nice flush lol)
Sunday, Monday and Tuesday thus far are en route
man I would be freaking with no internet :nervous:
dedlifter1
Well-known member
Sorry guys; no internet after 5pm , and I left work early at 3:30 since I got in at 7:30 (Couldn't sleep, anxious about Friday). Got lots of updates coming
Re: Water Intake: Looking back at my 1st post, I forgot to mention Poseidon. During my cardio, I fill up 2 blender bottles to the brim (2x700mL). Each has 1 Scoop Poseidon, Tbsp of Leucine, Bulk BCAA's and some Xtend. During my workouts I will add 2 Scoops of Poseidon and BCAAs or EAAs + Leucine. If I do a non-workout day, I will usually have 2 Sc. of Poseidon upon waking (and a very nice flush lol)
Sunday, Monday and Tuesday thus far are en route
sounds great, waitin for updates...
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
Getting rolling on it; I've been working all day. Just finished moving samples/defrosting a freezer. Finished my PreWO meal (3 cups of beans... stand clear
) Will have some IntraAid for some sugars closer to my workout. Anywho, back to the summary
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
Sunday Day 15: Cardi & Back
Weight: 193.5 Fasted
Cardio:60 mins fasted, 1307 cals! PR
- I switched between my normal resistance 16 and 17, and managed to get over 50 cals in
Workout:
Deadlifts 275; 5x5
Incl Bench: 135; 7x10
My lunch never seemed to digest; I was forcing myself to eat PWO to the point where it hurt. The beef stew at noon just never seemed to go anywhere Stomach felt slightly bloated on the deadlifts; haven't done these in a while so didn't know what to expect. DOMS was pretty strong in the back, and in the lats. Will probably try 5x8 in a few days. Very impressed with the cardio. Put some Sustain Alpha on, and was hoping to check the FSH/LH levels tomorrow but I forgot when listing off what I wanted tested :embarrassed:
Monday: Day 16
Weight: 198.5
Cardio: None
Workout: Chest/Back (Tried PM 1600 workout)
Pulldown (Narrow Metal Handle): 5x7 @ 165 Slow
Mach Bench 3x8
2a) Mach. Rows 90s/side : Felt Light
2b) BW Dips: 4x9 Now that I'm near 200, it's alot harder than at 160-170 lol
DB Bench 75s 2x7 Couldn't find a bench, shortage
Chest Fly 4x10
Rear Fly 4x8
Mach Pulldowns (Prone Grip) 3x10
A very intense, fast paced workout. That took about 40 minutes before I had to call it quits since the stomach pains were so intense (see below)
Glycobol: Took 3 at 1430, at 1445 I had 1c. Oats, 1c. Berries + Whey for about 80g Carbs and 45g Protein. Hit the gym with IntraAid for more carbs just incase, however after about 30 minutes I was VERY hungry. Got home and I couldn't stop eating. Had my massive PWO Oatbran, then had 1c. of berries, 4 yogurts, probably 2 cups milk. Felt like a bottomless pit. Weight is definitely up, and my arms were VERY pumped to the point it was awkward trying to to the fly machine since my forearms weren't bending right lol.
Side Effects:
Libido is up after 5 days of SA, however it definitely took a nose dive there in retrospect. Going to take a few days off and get my formestane levels up as today was Day 1 of hCG (300 IU's E3D). No hair loss; noticing some mild nipple sensitivity after doing my cardio, but not at any other times. So that is from the rubbing against the shirt. No Lethargy to note, other than the usual one caused by dull work!
Blood Pressure:135/81
To those of you that asked why I was worried; the headaches had me a bit concerned (Only last 2 days, and may have been dehydration or sleep related, gone now thankfully!) however I am seeing a steady progression upwards and I want to make sure it stops.
Body Changes:
I am noticing an increase in fat unfortunately. I guess my cals are higher than req'd; I think I'm still going to keep them pretty high and focus on using 3-4 fasted cardio/week to keep the fat gain down. I think I'm getting into the groove of cardio before more, and evening workouts. Muscle gain is hard to gauge; strength hasn't really taken off as much as I was expecting, but I'm only starting week 3. I ripped a nice dress shirt the other day, and almost couldn't fit into it this morning so there is some definite growth going on in the back. I think I'll take pictures at the end of week 3, and put them up for comparison. I might go use a friend's BIA to get a very roughly estimate of my bf which is higher than I can ever remember it being. There's going to be a long cut coming up!
Weight: 193.5 Fasted
Cardio:60 mins fasted, 1307 cals! PR
- I switched between my normal resistance 16 and 17, and managed to get over 50 cals in
Workout:
Deadlifts 275; 5x5
Incl Bench: 135; 7x10
My lunch never seemed to digest; I was forcing myself to eat PWO to the point where it hurt. The beef stew at noon just never seemed to go anywhere
Stomach felt slightly bloated on the deadlifts; haven't done these in a while so didn't know what to expect. DOMS was pretty strong in the back, and in the lats. Will probably try 5x8 in a few days. Very impressed with the cardio. Put some Sustain Alpha on, and was hoping to check the FSH/LH levels tomorrow but I forgot when listing off what I wanted tested :embarrassed:Monday: Day 16
Weight: 198.5
Cardio: None
Workout: Chest/Back (Tried PM 1600 workout)
Pulldown (Narrow Metal Handle): 5x7 @ 165 Slow
Mach Bench 3x8
2a) Mach. Rows 90s/side : Felt Light
2b) BW Dips: 4x9 Now that I'm near 200, it's alot harder than at 160-170 lol
DB Bench 75s 2x7 Couldn't find a bench, shortage
Chest Fly 4x10
Rear Fly 4x8
Mach Pulldowns (Prone Grip) 3x10
A very intense, fast paced workout. That took about 40 minutes before I had to call it quits since the stomach pains were so intense (see below)
Glycobol: Took 3 at 1430, at 1445 I had 1c. Oats, 1c. Berries + Whey for about 80g Carbs and 45g Protein. Hit the gym with IntraAid for more carbs just incase, however after about 30 minutes I was VERY hungry. Got home and I couldn't stop eating. Had my massive PWO Oatbran, then had 1c. of berries, 4 yogurts, probably 2 cups milk. Felt like a bottomless pit. Weight is definitely up, and my arms were VERY pumped to the point it was awkward trying to to the fly machine since my forearms weren't bending right lol.
Side Effects:
Libido is up after 5 days of SA, however it definitely took a nose dive there in retrospect. Going to take a few days off and get my formestane levels up as today was Day 1 of hCG (300 IU's E3D). No hair loss; noticing some mild nipple sensitivity after doing my cardio, but not at any other times. So that is from the rubbing against the shirt. No Lethargy to note, other than the usual one caused by dull work!
Blood Pressure:135/81
To those of you that asked why I was worried; the headaches had me a bit concerned (Only last 2 days, and may have been dehydration or sleep related, gone now thankfully!) however I am seeing a steady progression upwards and I want to make sure it stops.
Body Changes:
I am noticing an increase in fat unfortunately. I guess my cals are higher than req'd; I think I'm still going to keep them pretty high and focus on using 3-4 fasted cardio/week to keep the fat gain down. I think I'm getting into the groove of cardio before more, and evening workouts. Muscle gain is hard to gauge; strength hasn't really taken off as much as I was expecting, but I'm only starting week 3. I ripped a nice dress shirt the other day, and almost couldn't fit into it this morning so there is some definite growth going on in the back. I think I'll take pictures at the end of week 3, and put them up for comparison. I might go use a friend's BIA to get a very roughly estimate of my bf which is higher than I can ever remember it being. There's going to be a long cut coming up!
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
My case is a bit interesting; I think I may have been Mg/Zn deficient from all the sports/training I did in HS/Uni, and after long ZMA and recently Poseidon I think I finally got that turned around as I can finally remember my dreams pretty often now. But as for the product, I think it is a great idea to get your electrolytes in, especially when you sweat during cardio. The niacin is great to help with cholesterol; the Vit C during workouts might not be the best choice if you follow the ACES protocol by Dr. Houser. I think it's a good idea to take 2 scoops if you're sweating alot to ensure optimal electrolytes, and I'm glad I picked up 4lbs which should last me another 2-3 months.
dedlifter1
Well-known member
Sunday Day 15: Cardi & Back
Weight: 193.5 Fasted
Cardio:60 mins fasted, 1307 cals! PR
- I switched between my normal resistance 16 and 17, and managed to get over 50 cals in
Workout:
Deadlifts 275; 5x5
Incl Bench: 135; 7x10
My lunch never seemed to digest; I was forcing myself to eat PWO to the point where it hurt. The beef stew at noon just never seemed to go anywhere
Monday: Day 16
Weight: 198.5
Cardio: None
Workout: Chest/Back (Tried PM 1600 workout)
Pulldown (Narrow Metal Handle): 5x7 @ 165 Slow
Mach Bench 3x8
2a) Mach. Rows 90s/side : Felt Light
2b) BW Dips: 4x9 Now that I'm near 200, it's alot harder than at 160-170 lol
DB Bench 75s 2x7 Couldn't find a bench, shortage
Chest Fly 4x10
Rear Fly 4x8
Mach Pulldowns (Prone Grip) 3x10
A very intense, fast paced workout. That took about 40 minutes before I had to call it quits since the stomach pains were so intense (see below)
Glycobol: Took 3 at 1430, at 1445 I had 1c. Oats, 1c. Berries + Whey for about 80g Carbs and 45g Protein. Hit the gym with IntraAid for more carbs just incase, however after about 30 minutes I was VERY hungry. Got home and I couldn't stop eating. Had my massive PWO Oatbran, then had 1c. of berries, 4 yogurts, probably 2 cups milk. Felt like a bottomless pit. Weight is definitely up, and my arms were VERY pumped to the point it was awkward trying to to the fly machine since my forearms weren't bending right lol.
Side Effects:
Libido is up after 5 days of SA, however it definitely took a nose dive there in retrospect. Going to take a few days off and get my formestane levels up as today was Day 1 of hCG (300 IU's E3D). No hair loss; noticing some mild nipple sensitivity after doing my cardio, but not at any other times. So that is from the rubbing against the shirt. No Lethargy to note, other than the usual one caused by dull work!
Blood Pressure:135/81
To those of you that asked why I was worried; the headaches had me a bit concerned (Only last 2 days, and may have been dehydration or sleep related, gone now thankfully!) however I am seeing a steady progression upwards and I want to make sure it stops.
Body Changes:
I am noticing an increase in fat unfortunately. I guess my cals are higher than req'd; I think I'm still going to keep them pretty high and focus on using 3-4 fasted cardio/week to keep the fat gain down. I think I'm getting into the groove of cardio before more, and evening workouts. Muscle gain is hard to gauge; strength hasn't really taken off as much as I was expecting, but I'm only starting week 3. I ripped a nice dress shirt the other day, and almost couldn't fit into it this morning so there is some definite growth going on in the back. I think I'll take pictures at the end of week 3, and put them up for comparison. I might go use a friend's BIA to get a very roughly estimate of my bf which is higher than I can ever remember it being. There's going to be a long cut coming up!
Nice update, i hate it when i get the No digested lunch workout, its the pits for sure. 198 after one day! you must have been soaking wet,lol.
Steveoph
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hCG dose is at night pre-bed on the 11th, weight was taken preWO
Actually I think the gains have been pretty dry, especially since I'm on the formestane. I'll find out my E2 levels tomorrow, along with the liver values (And Testosterone + Free Testosterone out of curiosity)
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DR.D
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A couple of NOW Super Enzyme caps (or any good proteolytic formula) can help digest a big meal faster, when you're running out of time and need to work out sooner. 500mg of vitamin C with it also, but don't decrees pH much lower than that.
dedlifter1
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hCG dose is at night pre-bed on the 11th, weight was taken preWO
All the cool kids run formestane.
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LoL nice one Fin
Steve, have you been under control with you ATW protein intake lately ?? :lol:
dragonfly
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Sunday Day 15: Cardi & Back
Weight: 193.5 Fasted
Cardio:60 mins fasted, 1307 cals! PR
- I switched between my normal resistance 16 and 17, and managed to get over 50 cals in
Workout:
Deadlifts 275; 5x5
Incl Bench: 135; 7x10
My lunch never seemed to digest; I was forcing myself to eat PWO to the point where it hurt. The beef stew at noon just never seemed to go anywhere
Monday: Day 16
Weight: 198.5
Cardio: None
Workout: Chest/Back (Tried PM 1600 workout)
Pulldown (Narrow Metal Handle): 5x7 @ 165 Slow
Mach Bench 3x8
2a) Mach. Rows 90s/side : Felt Light
2b) BW Dips: 4x9 Now that I'm near 200, it's alot harder than at 160-170 lol
DB Bench 75s 2x7 Couldn't find a bench, shortage
Chest Fly 4x10
Rear Fly 4x8
Mach Pulldowns (Prone Grip) 3x10
A very intense, fast paced workout. That took about 40 minutes before I had to call it quits since the stomach pains were so intense (see below)
Glycobol: Took 3 at 1430, at 1445 I had 1c. Oats, 1c. Berries + Whey for about 80g Carbs and 45g Protein. Hit the gym with IntraAid for more carbs just incase, however after about 30 minutes I was VERY hungry. Got home and I couldn't stop eating. Had my massive PWO Oatbran, then had 1c. of berries, 4 yogurts, probably 2 cups milk. Felt like a bottomless pit. Weight is definitely up, and my arms were VERY pumped to the point it was awkward trying to to the fly machine since my forearms weren't bending right lol.
OK, so it is not just me, I've been on Glycobol for little over a week and I've been slamming down carbs like there's no tomorrow
No fat gain so far which is totally surprising, but I'm feeling bigger in other ways
dragonfly
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nice deads steve
AGREE. What is your PR Steve ?
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
I have the SuperEnzymes in my NP cart; going to make an order. I checked yesterday and we still aren't sure if/what we're doing for Memorial day. Sam is out of town till Thursday.
Picked up a fair bit; after the Invalid Link Removed I'm going to pick up 20g of Formestane.
Well I'm only on Week 3, however I think 1-T Tren is very powerful on its own and doesn't need to be run with the H-Drol. I'm not sure how high this will push my BP on its own, but I think it should be enough for a good cycle on its own. Perhaps I'll have a better answer in a few weeks time after some more experience with 1-TT.
Graciasnice deads steve
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I'm sure I'll run Formex as part of a natural stack sometime soon.LoL nice one Fin
Steve, have you been under control with you ATW protein intake lately ?? :lol:
As for the protein.. funny you should ask
I cracked and opened the bag Monday. In 2 days, maybe 0.75-1lb. However last night I gave it to a housemate, and told him to hide the bag in his room. So tempation is removed . Self-control would be such a simpler solution!Yup, it's odd that it is hit or miss for me though. The 1st time 3 caps didn't feel any different, than the other day I couldn't stop eating! Today is a no-carb day, but I'll try 3 caps tomorrow and see how it goes.OK, so it is not just me, I've been on Glycobol for little over a week and I've been slamming down carbs like there's no tomorrow
Well back in Nov when on Prime I did I think about 4x8 of 315s, but that was off pins about 6 inches off the ground. After cutting around Christmas, then 2 months off because of the broken finger, I decided to go off the ground again. Also I should mention that I do my deadlifts slow; usually about 3/0/3 so I don't have to go too heavy since I know some dentists that work with my dad that wore down their vertebrae in their weight-lifting days, and now have to wear lifting belts 24/7 and have lumbar pain. TUT is ~35-40s this way, and is enough to give me plenty of soreness. Like I said, I will try for 5x8 of deads, and if I manage that, will up the weight. I'd love to get back to 3plates with good form from the ground!
Liftergym33
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Steve ~ awesome job man, your cardio/cals blow my mind, and with what your burning and your saying your gaining fat is crazy... I dont think it would hurt to lower your cals maybe IMO, either way your doing great:thumbsup:
Edit: ~ But then again your the only person i know to drink 5lbs of protein in 5 days! haha
Edit: ~ But then again your the only person i know to drink 5lbs of protein in 5 days! haha
Steveoph
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
Mini Update:
Went out to watch Game 7/friends 22nd. Ended up going for an hour walk after to help a friend sort things out; just finished prepping omelets, oatmeal and preWO meal for tomorrow. Doing fasted cardio from 730-830, Legs workouts 1730-1830. Going to sleep, wont get my full 8.5 hours; got 10 last night and needed it.
Yesterday Bi's Tri's and Traps went well, but brief. No DOMS
Today felt tired, so I gave my body a rest (minus the 60min walk). No carb save from eggs and spinach, so the fasted cardio will be a real trial tomorrow AM. BP is back down, 119/67 :thumbsup: Full update at work tomorrow. :cheers:
Went out to watch Game 7/friends 22nd. Ended up going for an hour walk after to help a friend sort things out; just finished prepping omelets, oatmeal and preWO meal for tomorrow. Doing fasted cardio from 730-830, Legs workouts 1730-1830. Going to sleep, wont get my full 8.5 hours; got 10 last night and needed it.
Yesterday Bi's Tri's and Traps went well, but brief. No DOMS
Today felt tired, so I gave my body a rest (minus the 60min walk). No carb save from eggs and spinach, so the fasted cardio will be a real trial tomorrow AM. BP is back down, 119/67 :thumbsup: Full update at work tomorrow. :cheers:
dragonfly
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Same here, slow and from the ground or else it ain't worth it :thumbsup:
Ego can sometimes be a major impediment to one's bodybuilding progress...