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I posted my day 1 ,d 2 experienxe on anpther thrad

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alwaysgaining said:
hey Dr. D would u speculate that this product would have similar side effect of Anabolic pump, like the runs, blotchy vision, light headedness, puking, cold sweats, ect



wodnt the insulin negate the GH release?
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Not sure, I still haven't tried AP! I was told by one rep who was beta testing that he experience some stomach upset after taking a quadruple dose with a big meal just prior to bed. He was not sure of it was the high dose or other factors though, as it was not typical for him to eat so much at that time of night.

Personally, I notice a 'buzz' feeling about 50-75% of the time when I take it after a work-out. It's not a light-headedness, more of a body sensation of strong peace and muscular relaxation. It's a pleasurable sensation. I feel at peace, like all the vitamins and stims I took before the w/o have worn off right on time and I could just drift off to sleep with a big smile on my face. It sounds cheezy, but I don't know how else to explain it! (lol) I lift at night, so this is of great benefit to me, because I can otherwise stay hyped for many hours past the w/o and that can often cause insomnia. It have not had this effect during the day, or when takes pre-w/o. It has only occurred at night post-w/o.

Insulin won't negate GH release, it can support it actually. Usually when blood sugar is low, GH secretion is inversely high. Now GH itself can oppose the glucose uptake effect of insulin, but when you're fasting it doesn't matter anyway since there's no glucose to take up! GH and insulin are very complimentary and synergistic in there actions on muscular uptake of amino acids though, so with a protein or BCAA shake before bed you can have excellent 'fasting' results.
 
JBerto said:
So the best way to take Glycobol would be:

2 caps with your big meal, 2 caps after workout, and 2 caps before bed with empty stomach, isn't it?
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That's generally how I do it. If you have a big carb meal before your w/o, 1 cap can be good then too for some serious pumps.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Doesn't Berberine block Glut4 uptake into fat cells...
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Yes! It downregulates the gene expression involved in lipogenesis, and upregulates those involved with energy expenditure in adipose, so lipid accumulation is blunted or reversed. ;)
 
Steveoph said:
Here you go, Invalid Link Removed .
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Thanks, Steveo! Those are some solid ingredients. But now I forgot what the question was. :o (I'm thinking of formulating a cognitive enhancer as my next project, lol.) I thought Neo was a creatine product?
 
DR.D said:
Thanks, Steveo! Those are some solid ingredients. But now I forgot what the question was. :o (I'm thinking of formulating a cognitive enhancer as my next project, lol.) I thought Neo was a creatine product?
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Its a bit of both, a creatine product and nutrient partitioner. I don't remember the original question on it either tho :D get to work on the cognitive enhancer
 
From the glycobol. It was nice. Slightly akward because I didn't expect it. It happened right after the chinese buffet meal I had where I took glycobol

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They should have the Glycobol tomorrow so I would say they would ship the next business day.
 
DR.D said:
Gimme a link or the label, I'm not sure about RC or it's ingredients.
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ops sorry D, HERE GOES:
Glucovar/Adenylate Cyclase Sensitization Complex (Proprietary Blend):

Banaba Extract (Lagerstroemia Speciosa 1% Corosolic Acid)*, Gymnema Sylvestra (75% Extract), D-Pinitol*, Bioperine (95%-98% Piperine)* Registered Trademark of Sabinsa Corp. and holds patent #5, 536, 506).
 
crazyfool405 said:
The euphoric feeling I got was amazing

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See, I get it too, but I was trying not to say that! I was trying to avoid 'hype' words, and use a milder term than euphoria, but I suspect I know exactly what you're talking about. It's a very pleasant sensation, physically relaxed but still energetic with exceptional mood effects. It happens at least half the time I use it. A calm mellow feeling, and literally find myself smiling sometimes about 45min after my w/o.
 
nunes said:
ops sorry D, HERE GOES:
Glucovar/Adenylate Cyclase Sensitization Complex (Proprietary Blend):

Banaba Extract (Lagerstroemia Speciosa 1% Corosolic Acid)*, Gymnema Sylvestra (75% Extract), D-Pinitol*, Bioperine (95%-98% Piperine)* Registered Trademark of Sabinsa Corp. and holds patent #5, 536, 506).
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Thanks, nunes. You know, I tried Neovar when it first came out and didn't remember it having all that cool stuff in it! I thought it was just 2-3 ingredients, mostly creatine.

The Lagerstroemia is a good ingredient if you dose it high enough, the Gymnema is good stuff but don't dose it too high (same limitations and considerations as berberine), the dextropinitol is kind of hit or miss (it doesn't hurt anything to be in the formula though), and I'm not opposed to the piperine as long as the dose is on the low side of convention. This product looks like it was going for a similar effect as Glycobol, so be advised that there could be synergism if you mix the two, which might benefit to reduce the doses of both accordingly (or alternate doses).
 
DR.D said:
Thanks, nunes. You know, I tried Neovar when it first came out and didn't remember it having all that cool stuff in it! I thought it was just 2-3 ingredients, mostly creatine.

The Lagerstroemia is a good ingredient if you dose it high enough, the Gymnema is good stuff but don't dose it too high (same limitations and considerations as berberine), the dextropinitol is kind of hit or miss (it doesn't hurt anything to be in the formula though), and I'm not opposed to the piperine as long as the dose is on the low side of convention. This product looks like it was going for a similar effect as Glycobol, so be advised that there could be synergism if you mix the two, which might benefit to reduce the doses of both accordingly (or alternate doses).
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I asked cause I tried neovar and it works, if I don't take it with carbs I really stay with my head spinning, I wanted to know if its safe to stack them but you already answered, thanks
 
DR.D said:
See, I get it too, but I was trying not to say that! I was trying to avoid 'hype' words, and use a milder term than euphoria, but I suspect I know exactly what you're talking about. It's a very pleasant sensation, physically relaxed but still energetic with exceptional mood effects. It happens at least half the time I use it. A calm mellow feeling, and literally find myself smiling sometimes about 45min after my w/o.
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Yea it was quite remarkable I was on the way home and I was as brad nowell would say comfortably numb I was happy had energy and ooooo the pumps. And I usually don't get pumps unless I'm in the gym. Even the NO products don't give me that pump

Just an overall great experience. And while on anabolics the positive effects of the phelledron on cholesterol is great!

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crazyfool405 said:
Yea it was quite remarkable I was on the way home and I was as brad nowell would say comfortably numb I was happy had energy and ooooo the pumps. And I usually don't get pumps unless I'm in the gym. Even the NO products don't give me that pump

Just an overall great experience. And while on anabolics the positive effects of the phelledron on cholesterol is great!

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Oh man, not just the phelledron. The whole formula is health promoting, especially the BMOV. The drop in triglycerides and cholesterol is really amazing with vanadyl compounds.
 
DR.D said:
Oh man, not just the phelledron. The whole formula is health promoting, especially the BMOV. The drop in triglycerides and cholesterol is really amazing with vanadyl compounds.
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Oh yea I agree 100 %. Just my fingers started to hurt from typing all that from my blackberry haha. I also the the antioxident capabilities of the na r ala. Really just top notch formula!

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crazyfool405 said:
Oh yea I agree 100 %. Just my fingers started to hurt from typing all that from my blackberry haha. I also the the antioxident capabilities of the na r ala. Really just top notch formula!

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The ALA's are great anti-oxidant; my other 2 favs are Green Tea and Grape Seed Extract in my book :) We've had the 50g GSE containers for $6.50 for months (I think we're trying to clear them out, got 250g , enough to last ages lol).

They help negate all the stresses we put on our bodies through our intense training.
 
in an idea that nutrition is the most important thing, followed by vitamins, some say creatine, etc...where would ya'll rate this on the supplement scale of importance and effectiveness? would it be looked at as a staple supplement like fish oil...?
 
strategicmove said:
From what?
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Strategic the euphoria is just amaziong after an 1hour of ingestion of glycobol. SLEPT LIKE A BABY AND FELT SO REFRESHED, had a sick workout today by the way, thank God for Dr.D and his development product, awesome job; may God continue to provide you with knowledge in wisdom in making products. Nothin but Love bro.
 
natty texan said:
in an idea that nutrition is the most important thing, followed by vitamins, some say creatine, etc...where would ya'll rate this on the supplement scale of importance and effectiveness? would it be looked at as a staple supplement like fish oil...?
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I'm going to say top 5. Insulin resistance high triglyxerides are ruining the general public as well as cholesterol causing so much harm. All this with a lot of peoples sedentary lifestyle exacerbates these conditions. Obviously u can't just use glycobol and all these problems disappear but it can help greatly to anyone who needs it and can help stop the onset of certain nutritional based side effects when used correctly

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Definetly a staple when on and off cycle as well. And to those gh users who may experience insulin resistamce from its use I believe this can help greatly as well

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crazyfool405 said:
I'm going to say top 5. Insulin resistance high triglyxerides are ruining the general public as well as cholesterol causing so much harm. All this with a lot of peoples sedentary lifestyle exacerbates these conditions. Obviously u can't just use glycobol and all these problems disappear but it can help greatly to anyone who needs it and can help stop the onset of certain nutritional based side effects when used correctly

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thanks for the reply man.
 
So can i ask you.. When is this supp comin out and what is the name of this supp?! I been monitoring this post for a while now and with all the other ish in my life, i can't wait anymore. i'm gettin into much better shape please. tell me! lol
 
TrynaImprove said:
So can i ask you.. When is this supp comin out and what is the name of this supp?! I been monitoring this post for a while now and with all the other ish in my life, i can't wait anymore. i'm gettin into much better shape please. tell me! lol
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I think you can get it at NP right now if I remember correctly...????:speechless:
 
SO IS THERE any logs on this product looks real good im thinking about grabbing 2 bottles some creatine and some greentea and im good and set
 
so I'm going to get some to take with my PCT to try to keep the gains coming I work out at 6:00pm so what will be the best times to take it get the most mas out of it?
 
Got mine this morning, this is how i plan on dosing:
2 in the morning with breakfast, 1 with carbs before workout, 2 postworkout.
how does that sound? Also, how does Stoked work? I got two weeks worth for free, might as well run it.
 
has anyone started this yet? im eager to here how its working for some of you. anyone gonna start a log or anything?
 
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