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Volcom's Sponsored, Controlled Lab's NEW, BLUE GROWTH log w/video

VolcomX311 said:
Down from 217 to 211 this morning, but I don't think I started cutting actual fat until maybe 213-214.

11 more lbs and instead of saying I've reached my goal, I'll probably say I want to get down to 195....etc.. That's usually how it works.
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I hear u about the goal changing. Right now Im saying 220 but damn Im probably pretty facking close to that now. So then when Im for sure 220 I will say 200 lol.
 
good man V!!! it takes more of a man to do what you did then to cave. Ultimate respect and ultimate reps!!!
 
Refeed Day/Cheat Day

My first refeed/cheat meal of the day was a foot long western & egg on 9grain oats from Subway, which is basically egg whites & ham. The bread itself contains about 120g of carbs. I've never really executed a refeed day before, because it aways felt like it was "breaking stride" in my cut, but I know this is the proper way to do it for bodybuilders.

Do I still split up my meals every 2.5/3 hours? Only I'm eating allowing carbs through the firewall?
 
Damn, I'm sweat'n balls after eating that sandwhich for some reason. It's like I'm on Recreate except I'm not.

I need to go back and re-read Kleen's post so I get an idea of how many carbs I have to eat today.
 
I feel effing energized after that sandwhich, man. I don't think I've felt a surge of energy from food since I started cutting.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Damn, I'm sweat'n balls after eating that sandwhich for some reason. It's like I'm on Recreate except I'm not.

I need to go back and re-read Kleen's post so I get an idea of how many carbs I have to eat today.
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On my carb ups I do 125g in 1 serving= 500 extra calories than my normal.

That sandwich sounds damn good..Im gonna cheat on Sunday morning..Wife promised me hash browns, eggs, turkey bacon, toast, coffee, might even toss some pancakes in there :D
 
Resolve said:
Dang, Flex, 125g carb up? I get 700g of GLORY!
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Glory Hallelujah!! Wow......now that's a carb re-feed!!! My stomach is protruding from merely reading of it. :laugh:
 
thundergod said:
Glory Hallelujah!! Wow......now that's a carb re-feed!!! My stomach is protruding from merely reading of it. :laugh:
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It's spread over 8hrs, but yeah, towards the end I'm pretty full.

MrBigPR said:
I never thought I'd see the day where resolve would eat that much carbs
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Well, I'm following a protocol by Shelby Starnes. It calls for large refeeds, so I'm rolling with it. :)

Tomahawk88 said:
Damn :jaw: I think my body would go into shock and I would die :laugh:
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Nah, you could handle it. Rice, chili, sweet potatoes, it's delicious.

FlexW99 said:
On my cut, yeah..125 in a single serving..700g is in 1 sitting!? ROFL..
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No, 700g total, over 4 meals. But, if I went dirty, I could probably do it in one sitting. :D
 
Resolve is a man-beast, but damn! 700g :banana:

I've probably done that many carbs on regular non-diet days. You'd be surprised how man damn carbs are in a serving of noodles.
 
VolcomX311 said:
You'd be surprised how man damn carbs are in a serving of noodles.
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Place your hands on your head and step away from the noodles.......:cop:


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Last Friday I took another stab at dead lifts. I've done rack deads in its place for awhile, because my left, erector spinae had been strained awhile, so I couldn't DL.

I successfully pulled off a back workout that started DL's, but the numbers are almost too embarassing to post, even for rehab deads.

Rehab Deads x 5 sets (225lbs through 315lbs)

HS One Arm Low Rows
135lbs x 10 reps, each arm
180lbs x 10 reps, each arm
205lbs x 8 reps, each arm
225lbs x 6 reps, each arm

French Bar Pull Overs x 5 sets

Smith, Behind The Neck Shrugs
315lbs x 5 sets

As much as I didn't really pull, having not pulled off the ground in awhile my back was sore as fak the next day. I'm still a little sore today. Felt good though. Also, my parents dropped by and gave me their old inversion table, so I'll be using that thing post DL's and squats fu sho.

I'm starting to reach the end of my BlueGrowth. At this point, I'm not getting the KO factor at night, but I'm still resting well and getting really weird dreams. I don't know whats with these GH products and weird dreams, but the rest is good and my recovery is great.
 
LOL I've noticed the strange dreams too... especially if I fall asleep with the TV on, whatever I'm watching has a strange way of creeping into my dreams. Not anything bad, kind of interesting. It beats me what causes it, perhaps the deep sleep induced (entering REM quicker?)
 
RenegadeRows said:
LOL I've noticed the strange dreams too... especially if I fall asleep with the TV on, whatever I'm watching has a strange way of creeping into my dreams. Not anything bad, kind of interesting. It beats me what causes it, perhaps the deep sleep induced (entering REM quicker?)
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More like entering The MATRIX.
 
Man Resolve has it right if you are refeeding once a week make it BIG. 600-1000g carbs in 24 hours baby! You can eat non stop if you want or give mini breaks or whatever during your reffed whatever helps you get to the majic number.

Flex you could easily bring yours up to 200 grams in 1 sitting doing it 2 times a week without negatively effecting your cut.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Man Resolve has it right if you are refeeding once a week make it BIG. 600-1000g carbs in 24 hours baby! You can eat non stop if you want or give mini breaks or whatever during your reffed whatever helps you get to the majic number.

Flex you could easily bring yours up to 200 grams in 1 sitting doing it 2 times a week without negatively effecting your cut.
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I clearly underate my last refeed then (120g from 9grain bread). Next refeed I'll up it to 240 or 360 and see how that goes. I don' think I could do 1000g psychologically. As much as my body loves to convert rice & noodles to fat, I just wouldn't be able to mentally do that on a cut.
 
Last night I hit chest and I can tell at this point, I'm just not eating enough kcals to support what I'm liftng, or at least to gain much strength. Everything felt heavy, but thats the cut I guess.

Flat Bench
225lbs x 10 reps
275lbs x 5 reps
295lbs x 5 reps
305lbs x 5 reps
305lbs x 4 reps
305lbs x 5 reps

Incline Bench
185lbs x 5 reps
205lbs x 5 reps
225lbs x 5 reps
245lbs x 5 reps
275lbs x 5 reps

Incline HS Press
270lbs x 5 reps
360lbs x 5 reps
360lbs x 5 reps
360lbs x 5 reps
360lbs x 5 reps

Machine Flat Press
225 x 5 reps x 5 sets

I did another small refeed this morning. It's been 5 days since my last refeed, so I had another 120g from a footlong 9grain oat subway. Today is going to be iffy. I didn't sleep until 2-3am and I'm already feeling zombie'esque, so we'll see if I can even lift tonight.
 
The lack of sugar in my system is starting to show itself in my power lifts. My energy was respectably high today, but I just didn't have the umph behind my explosions. However, I incorporated some shoulders and an exercise I made up or at least it was made up "to me," in that I'd never seen anyone else perform it.

Hang Snatch
95lbs x 5 reps
100lbs x 5 reps
110lbs x 5 reps
120lbs x 3 reps
125lbs x 1 rep
125lbs x 3 reps
125lbs x fail x fail..... ugh, no umph.

Hang Cleans
135lbs x 5 reps
155lbs x 5 reps
155lbs x 5 reps
155lbs x 3 reps
155lbs x fail x fail...

Military Press
[my numbers were very low, but that's because my delts & traps were already jacked]
135lbs x 10 reps
145lbs x 10 reps
155lbs x 10 reps
175lbs x 5 reps

**My Made Up Exercise**
Smith, One Arm Barbell Press
[basically, you sit parallel to the smith barbell and you set the barbell on your shoulder like you're carrying a log. Then you move over a touch away from the bar so the bar sets around the middle of your delts and your elbow is tucked way low beneath your ribs, that's the starting position and you've got a major ROM in this position and you'd be surprised how little weight it takes to make this challenging]
65lbs x 10 reps, each arm
75lbs x 10 reps, each arm
85lbs x 10 reps, each arm
95lbs x 8 reps, each arm

Machine, Behind The Neck Shoulder Press
150lbs x 10 reps
180lbs x 10 reps
195lbs x 8 reps
205lbs x 6 reps

Great workout today. The best I've felt in awhile, short of the lack of explosiveness. It felt great to combine my O-lifts with a bodybuilding delt routine.
 
One-Arm Smith Presses.....hmmm.

Volcom......always the exercise innovator. You come up with more unheard of lifts than I do. And that says a lot. :laugh2:
 
VolcomX311 said:
I clearly underate my last refeed then (120g from 9grain bread). Next refeed I'll up it to 240 or 360 and see how that goes. I don' think I could do 1000g psychologically. As much as my body loves to convert rice & noodles to fat, I just wouldn't be able to mentally do that on a cut.
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Volcom - You, Kleen and I are the same when it comes to carbs. I have learned though that you cannot fear the starch on the refeeds. I used to diet really hard for 5 days then do a 2 day refeed with around 400 grams per day then back to under 100 per day. This worked to get me down to as low as 180 at one point. Granted, it is hard to shove that many carbs in but it is necessary or your metabolism will die out on you and fat loss stalls. Read the Ultimate Diet 2.0 book if you can find a copy online, it will explain the philosophy behind refeeds.
 
oufinny said:
Volcom - You, Kleen and I are the same when it comes to carbs. I have learned though that you cannot fear the starch on the refeeds. I used to diet really hard for 5 days then do a 2 day refeed with around 400 grams per day then back to under 100 per day. This worked to get me down to as low as 180 at one point. Granted, it is hard to shove that many carbs in but it is necessary or your metabolism will die out on you and fat loss stalls. Read the Ultimate Diet 2.0 book if you can find a copy online, it will explain the philosophy behind refeeds.
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Leptin, baby. It's all about the leptin. :147:
 
thundergod said:
One-Arm Smith Presses.....hmmm.

Volcom......always the exercise innovator. You come up with more unheard of lifts than I do. And that says a lot. :laugh2:
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lol, I'll have to throw it into Mullet's, The Canadian Bodybuilder's Encyclopedia. Except I'm not Canadian.

Tomahawk88 said:
Ya I want to see a video of this made up exercise man.
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I could do that, but due to its difficulty, the two dimes on each side isn't the most beastly of sights.

Resolve said:
The one arm smith press - it sounds like a javelin press in the smith machine, but I think we should call it a Sammy Press.
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You know what, I'll give that "javelin press" a look-see on youtube. That would certainly describe the starting position.

There ya go, except I do these on the Smith to minimize body language and on the Smith I can go deeper without balance being an issue & the ROM gets huge, although you get way, WAY more core stimulation doing it free weight, so much for my pending patent...





oufinny said:
Volcom - You, Kleen and I are the same when it comes to carbs. I have learned though that you cannot fear the starch on the refeeds. I used to diet really hard for 5 days then do a 2 day refeed with around 400 grams per day then back to under 100 per day. This worked to get me down to as low as 180 at one point. Granted, it is hard to shove that many carbs in but it is necessary or your metabolism will die out on you and fat loss stalls. Read the Ultimate Diet 2.0 book if you can find a copy online, it will explain the philosophy behind refeeds.
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Alright, thanks for the advice. 2 day refeed huh, wow. In the last 18 days, I've had 2 refeeds with only 120g from oats bread and I'm certainly doing well under a 100 a day. I actuallly dont' eat any breads, rice or pastas, but I do get my carbs primarily from vegetables and the occassional fruit. Maybe this saturday I'll try 400g to start and see how my body reacts over the next couple of days. I appreciate the tips. I have already noticed a stall in my weight loss progression and I'm sure you've uncovered the prime culprit. That's probably been my pitfall in the past, I've done 12-14 week cuts with zero refeeds in the past.

Army Guy said:
man I need to try that 1 arm press. That sounds nuts!!!
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I'd try it on the Smith first. For athletic purposes, I'd go free weight cause the core, stabilization, balance benefits, even some body language in this movement has some power benefits, but on the smith, you don't need to worry about anything but pressing. However, if you're like TG and works out in a personal dungeon, then free weight certainly has its pro's over a stationary lift.
 
Army Guy said:
man I need to try that 1 arm press. That sounds nuts!!!
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Have you ever done 1 arm DB presses before? I love those. Seated or standing. Prefer the standing version. :mischievous:
 
VolcomX311 said:
You know what, I'll give that "javelin press" a look-see on youtube. That would certainly describe the starting position.

There ya go, so much for my pending patent... .
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Oh well. As King Solomon said, "There is no new thing under the sun."

It was still new for you. That's all that matters. Well done Sam. :clap2:
 
MrKleen73 said:
Flex you could easily bring yours up to 200 grams in 1 sitting doing it 2 times a week without negatively effecting your cut.
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Hmm exactly my quota too. I carb up 2x per week. Im not gonna lie, I could use more. Folks are saying im skinny...I dont like that...!
 
BlueGROWTH Review

First off, I want to thank Controlled Labs and Renegade for giving me the opportunity to log their product.

I'd like to approach my review with a slightly different approach then traditional reviews. I don't feel as comfortable giving a point system review because I haven't experienced enough GH products to have any kind of depth of comparison. Furthermore, I switched from a dirty bulk to an uber carb-nazi clean cut and the physiological and endocrinlogical differences in such a switch would have a significant effect on such things as growth, strength, weight and ant-DOMS effects, therefore, I have chosen to focus on an element that ought not have any strong variance due to dietary factors.

I'll focus primarily on rest and recovery theories so my experience may or may not be something so exclusive to my personal phase of bodybuilding.

Firstly, the most notable and unavoidably apparent effects I experienced from BlueGROWTH are lucid, vivid, numerous in variety and perhaps less relevant, extremely weird, weird dreams. How could I relate this to bodybuilding? One of the most over-looked and underrated aspects of bodybuilding, particularly to either green or stubbornly young hearted lifters such as myself, is the emphasis on the importance of the rest & recovery phase.

Initially, I thought because my dreams were so lucid, in so many varying narrations and my recollection of them so vivid the next day, that what I was improving or more clearly put, spending more time in was REM sleep. That was the understanding I went with in my search for answers.

Sleep proceeds in cycles of REM and NREM, the order normally being N1 → N2 → N3 → N2 → REM.

* Stage 1: Polysomnography (sleep readings) shows a reduction in activity between wakefulness and stage 1 sleep. The eyes are closed during Stage 1 sleep. One can be awakened without difficulty, however, if aroused from this stage of sleep, a person may feel as if he or she has not slept. Stage 1 may last for five to 10 minutes. Many may notice the feeling of falling during this stage of sleep, which may cause a sudden muscle contraction (called hypnic myoclonia).

* Stage 2: This is a period of light sleep during which polysomnographic readings show intermittent peaks and valleys, or positive and negative waves. These waves indicate spontaneous periods of muscle tone mixed with periods of muscle relaxation. The heart rate slows and the body temperature decreases. At this point, the body prepares to enter deep sleep.

* Stages 3 and 4: These are deep sleep stages, with stage 4 being more intense than Stage 3. These stages are known as slow-wave, or delta, sleep. If aroused from sleep during these stages, a person may feel disoriented for a few minutes.

During the deep stages of NREM sleep [N2- early N3], the body repairs and regenerates tissues, builds bone and muscle, and appears to strengthen the immune system. As you get older, you sleep more lightly and get less deep sleep. Aging is also associated with shorter time spans of sleep, although studies show the amount of sleep needed doesn't appear to diminish with age. Invalid Link Removed
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Therefore, there is a greater amount of deep sleep (stage N2- early N3), while the proportion of REM sleep increases later in the night and just before natural awakening. Prior to my personal research, I thought REM was the peak point of restful sleep and also the peak point of GH release, on the contrary, sleep is deepest at N3 or the NREM stages in general and GH release is actually most prevalent during NREM sleep stages.

A brief outlay of a normal sleep process usually involves REM and Non REM (NREM) sleep. REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep is the part when active dreaming occurs, and little HGH is produced during this phase.

Non REM sleep is a much deeper phase of sleep than REM sleep, and during this phase, the pituitary produces high levels of HGH. The pattern of HGH release closely follows the brain wave patterns, with a large burst shortly after falling asleep, and continuing thereafter according to sleep wave patterns.Invalid Link Removed
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My personal conclusion from my own understanding, is that sleep not only occurs in cycles from N1 through REM and can relapse back to N2 back through REM many times a night, but for a natural insomniac as myself, who wakes up to use the restroom 3-4 times a night on average, my cycles may start all over from N1. So how does this relate to dream lucidity and the fact that theoretically, too much REM sleep can actually leave you sluggish in the morning, as it can be a sign of inadequate NREM sleep, yet I wake up feeling completely refreshed?

My first theory was that I concluded that what BlueGROWTH was doing was helping me complete a full rest cycle MANY times a night, as my cycle resets many times due to my getting up many times a night. What about people who sleep through the entire night? I would conclude under certain presumptions, that some people may or may not complete sleep cycles from N1-REM or if they do and are not recalling dreams, that they are waking up from an NREM stage or an inadequate REM stage.

Now to be a bit exclusive in my experience. I traditionally never seem to dream most likely due to simple lack of recollection, which isn't uncommon, but on BlueGROWTH, perhaps I am experiencing a full cycle in so many completed stages, that I simply have more dreams to recall from, therefore, I feel they are more lucid due to my quality of recollection; Not that I recall every single dream, but that because I experience more stages of NREM through REM, I simply have more stories to choose from.

Theory number two. REM being the final stage of sleep and the stage traditionally closest to pre-awakening, the dream lucidity could be that my NREM stages were slept through with such quality, that during the phase of the most increased brain activity, my brain activity is enhanced in that REM stage, due to the quality of sleep in my NREM stages.

Conclusion, GH release is enhanced in either scenario I proposed. Either BlueGROWTH promotes many cycles of N2-REM or the quality in NREM stages are improved and are the peak times of GH release.

Thank you again Controlled Labs and I hope I have given a satisfactory log and a fair, objective review.

Of course there's always Arnold's personal preference in inducing quality NREM sleep.

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VolcomX311 said:
First off, I want to thank Controlled Labs and Renegade for giving me the opportunity to log their product.

I'd like to approach my review with a slightly different approach then traditional reviews. I don't feel as comfortable giving a point system review because I haven't experienced enough GH products to have any kind of depth of comparison. Furthermore, I switched from a dirty bulk to an uber carb-nazi clean cut and the physiological and endocrinlogical differences in such a switch would have a significant effect on such things as growth, strength, weight and ant-DOMS effects, therefore, I have chosen to focus on an element that ought not have any strong variance due to dietary factors.

I'll focus primarily on rest and recovery theories so my experience may or may not be something so exclusive to my personal phase of bodybuilding.

Firstly, the most notable and unavoidably apparent effects I experienced from BlueGROWTH are lucid, vivid, numerous in variety and perhaps less relevant, extremely weird, weird dreams. How could I relate this to bodybuilding? One of the most over-looked and underrated aspects of bodybuilding, particularly to either green or stubbornly young hearted lifters such as myself, is the emphasis on the importance of the rest & recovery phase.

Initially, I thought because my dreams were so lucid, in so many varying narrations and my recollection of them so vivid the next day, that what I was improving or more clearly put, spending more time in was REM sleep. That was the understanding I went with in my search for answers.

Sleep proceeds in cycles of REM and NREM, the order normally being N1 → N2 → N3 → N2 → REM.



Therefore, there is a greater amount of deep sleep (stage N2- early N3), while the proportion of REM sleep increases later in the night and just before natural awakening. Prior to my personal research, I thought REM was the peak point of restful sleep and also the peak point of GH release, on the contrary, sleep is deepest at N3 or the NREM stages in general and GH release is actually most prevalent during NREM sleep stages.



My personal conclusion from my own understanding, is that sleep not only occurs in cycles from N1 through REM and can relapse back to N2 back through REM many times a night, but for a natural insomniac as myself, who wakes up to use the restroom 3-4 times a night on average, my cycles may start all over from N1. So how does this relate to dream lucidity and the fact that theoretically, too much REM sleep can actually leave you sluggish in the morning, as it can be a sign of inadequate NREM sleep, yet I wake up feeling completely refreshed?

My first theory was that I concluded that what BlueGROWTH was doing was helping me complete a full rest cycle MANY times a night, as my cycle resets many times due to my getting up many times a night. What about people who sleep through the entire night? I would conclude under certain presumptions, that some people may or may not complete sleep cycles from N1-REM or if they do and are not recalling dreams, that they are waking up from an NREM stage or an inadequate REM stage.

Now to be a bit exclusive in my experience. I traditionally never seem to dream most likely due to simple lack of recollection, which isn't uncommon, but on BlueGROWTH, perhaps I am experiencing a full cycle in so many completed stages, that I simply have more dreams to recall from, therefore, I feel they are more lucid due to my quality of recollection; Not that I recall every single dream, but that because I experience more stages of NREM through REM, I simply have more stories to choose from.

Theory number two. REM being the final stage of sleep and the stage traditionally closest to pre-awakening, the dream lucidity could be that my NREM stages were slept through with such quality, that during the phase of the most increased brain activity, my brain activity is enhanced in that REM stage, due to the quality of sleep in my NREM stages.

Conclusion, GH release is enhanced in either scenario I proposed. Either BlueGROWTH promotes many cycles of N2-REM or the quality in NREM stages are improved and are the peak times of GH release.

Thank you again Controlled Labs and I hope I have given a satisfactory log and a fair, objective review.

Of course there's always Arnold's personal preference in inducing quality NREM sleep.

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Very nice review Sam. I like the stage breakdown you give. Makes ignorant fellaz like myself learn a few things :D
 
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