Training log revamp ROUND 3 lol

gphagan1 said:
I feel for you man, as an old dude I’ve been battling shoulder issues and arthritis for years, and it isn’t any fun. Hopefully they can get you fixed up.
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MrKleen73 said:
Damn Man, hope it is just something that needs a little anti-inflammatory action and not much more. My ortho gave me meloxicam last time I was all swollen up and in a lot of pain. So much stronger than Ibuprofen. It really helped in my entire body not just my shoulder too. I couldn't bend my pointing finger very well when I started it, and was able to close it completely into a fist with no pain after a day or two.
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KvanH said:
Damn, that sucks.. I'm with others hoping it's nothing too serious.
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Here's my anti Dr. Take on the situation. A few years back I found out I had a partial tear in my left rotator. First Dr. Said no more bench or overhead pressing and only do light DB exercises with 5lb dumbbells:/

Second Dr. Said keep lifting, the muscles are strong and that's what's holding it together.

After the second Said keep lifting I started training delts 3x week and they became my best body part. During that time I got my bench up to 370 and a standing ohp with 235. So that first Dr. Can suck a cock lol. Now I did use a lot of bpc on that shoulder so that probably helped.

Now this shoulder feels the same type of pain as before with my other but this one is worse. Hopefully the doc says do mobility and rehab work instead of surgery because if I don't need surgery I'm gonna hammer it with bpc and tb while doing lots of rehab and cuff exercises and basically repeat what I did with the other shoulder.

I do appreciate the saying "everything happens for a reason" if my gear had arrived on time (or at all lol) I'd be smashing the gas and ignoring this injury completely. At least now I can just keep trucking along on what I'm on and fix the problem instead of making it worse
 
Smont said:
Well the walk in was kinda pointless but I got a appointment tomorrow. The dude at the clinic thinks I have a torn cuff and that the reason I'm still mobile but in pain is because the muscles around the shoulder are strong which is already what I thought was going on. I already have a partial tear in the other shoulder. Dr. Needs to do a mri he said. X rays don't show the cuff apparently but he said I have some bone spurs
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🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ super lame bro
 
One last thing, igf shits????

Idk if I got a stomach bug or if it's the igf. 6-8× a day I've been on the toilet for like 4 days straight. Igf is the only variable unless I got a bug or something
 
MrKleen73 said:
Damn Man, hope it is just something that needs a little anti-inflammatory action and not much more. My ortho gave me meloxicam last time I was all swollen up and in a lot of pain. So much stronger than Ibuprofen. It really helped in my entire body not just my shoulder too. I couldn't bend my pointing finger very well when I started it, and was able to close it completely into a fist with no pain after a day or two.
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Never heard of it but I will look into it. I need something lol
 
If you watch vigorous Steve's video where he tore both his hamstrings you can see what he did to accelerate healing. I know gh was involved, and there wasn't bpc or tb available yet so you'll have that advantage
 
Smont said:
One last thing, igf shits????

Idk if I got a stomach bug or if it's the igf. 6-8× a day I've been on the toilet for like 4 days straight. Igf is the only variable unless I got a bug or something
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Never used it, but GH did make my poop softer considerably and makes pooping more regular/frequent.
 
Smont said:
6-8 times a day and very liquid. Sorry for the description lol. I'm going so often I'm afraid to wipe lol
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Get some Dude Wipes! Flushable wipes, keeps the burning down and keeps from getting too irritated.
They are a life saver in those times!!!! They are about twice as big as the flushable baby wipes.

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Speaking of, I think this scene from Deadpool 2 is hilarious. Nice little cameos by Matt Damon, and Allen Tudyk. I love that they try to hide them with disguises too.

 
Smont said:
Diet hasn't really changed and I been cooking my own meals so we can cross that out. Kids and my girl are eating the same stuff and there fine
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If no new bottle of supplements (like a fish oil gone rancid for example) and they’re eating from ALL of the same batches of proteins (so you know nothing went bad or got slightly undercooked), I would suspect a virus.

Focus on extra water/salt intake!

I always use the flushable wipes from Sam’s club. Let the Charmin extra strong toilet paper do the initial work, then finish smooth with a couple wipes. ‘Clean butt, happy butt!’ I always tell my toddler when I change him

You gotta keep wipes in the gym bag too!
 
Hyde said:
If no new bottle of supplements (like a fish oil gone rancid for example) and they’re eating from ALL of the same batches of proteins (so you know nothing went bad or got slightly undercooked), I would suspect a virus.

Focus on extra water/salt intake!

I always use the flushable wipes from Sam’s club. Let the Charmin extra strong toilet paper do the initial work, then finish smooth with a couple wipes. ‘Clean butt, happy butt!’ I always tell my toddler when I change him

You gotta keep wipes in the gym bag too!
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Amen! I also have some in my work bag just in case I have one of those days. I will have to look into those Sam's ones. I bet they are cheaper.
 
Smont said:
Well the walk in was kinda pointless but I got a appointment tomorrow. The dude at the clinic thinks I have a torn cuff and that the reason I'm still mobile but in pain is because the muscles around the shoulder are strong which is already what I thought was going on. I already have a partial tear in the other shoulder. Dr. Needs to do a mri he said. X rays don't show the cuff apparently but he said I have some bone spurs
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Rub some dirt on it and stop being a sissy.
 
That explains the lack of relief! These are the only proper methods to rub dirt on your butthole, doing it with your hands simply does not have the same effect...

 
Smont said:
Ok, I rubbed some dirt on my butthole but it didn't seem to work
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The idea is to create a clog to prevent further diarrhea, so you must put dirt inside.

sad, but true...
 
I believe it was @gphagan1 who has the thread about mot-c?

Just listed to a podcast today where they were talking about how great it is but apparently you need to find 1-2mg vials because it ls only good for like 2 days after reconstituted. Basically they said they noticed if the reconstituted a 10ml bottle it was amazing on day 1 and by day 3 it wasn't even noticeable. But if they did a 1ml bottle daily it worked every day
 
Smont said:
I believe it was @gphagan1 who has the thread about mot-c?

Just listed to a podcast today where they were talking about how great it is but apparently you need to find 1-2mg vials because it ls only good for like 2 days after reconstituted. Basically they said they noticed if the reconstituted a 10ml bottle it was amazing on day 1 and by day 3 it wasn't even noticeable. But if they did a 1ml bottle daily it worked every day
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Which one was it? I just watched a grow or die podcast with Justin mihaley and he had this guy on from Marek health talking about it. I've been binge watching grow or die on cardio when you first listen Justin sounds like a complete gym douchebag but he's actually pretty knowledgeable and he has Ross Flanigan on a lot, the guy who started flavor gang and just won the Cali pro
 
Mikereyn513 said:
Which one was it? I just watched a grow or die podcast with Justin mihaley and he had this guy on from Marek health talking about it. I've been binge watching grow or die on cardio when you first listen Justin sounds like a complete gym douchebag but he's actually pretty knowledgeable and he has Ross Flanigan on a lot, the guy who started flavor gang and just won the Cali pro
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It was a vigorous Steve q and a, I don't know how old it is I gotta go find the date on it. I like the grow or die one too. The guy is a bit intense or wound up for me but he seems very knowledgeable
 
Smont said:
It was a vigorous Steve q and a, I don't know how old it is I gotta go find the date on it. I like the grow or die one too. The guy is a bit intense or wound up for me but he seems very knowledgeable
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Dude that's the first thing I thought..he was like a Ryan Ankrom on too much test and Adderall. But he grew on me because of his knowledge and he's open minded and actually willing to not only listen to but learn from his guests. I respect the hell outta that
 
Smont said:
I believe it was @gphagan1 who has the thread about mot-c?

Just listed to a podcast today where they were talking about how great it is but apparently you need to find 1-2mg vials because it ls only good for like 2 days after reconstituted. Basically they said they noticed if the reconstituted a 10ml bottle it was amazing on day 1 and by day 3 it wasn't even noticeable. But if they did a 1ml bottle daily it worked every day
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I wonder if it was because they used bac water. Theres a few peptides that ideally should be reconstituted with acetic acid (then diluted with bac when loading the syringe), or even sterile water. Ive even come across sodium chloride , I think it was.
 
Nac said:
I wonder if it was because they used bac water. Theres a few peptides that ideally should be reconstituted with acetic acid (then diluted with bac when loading the syringe), or even sterile water. Ive even come across sodium chloride , I think it was.
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As far as I'm aware, acetic acid won't make a difference, and seeing how it was vigorous Steve who goes balls deep into the most optimal way to do things I'm 99.99999% sure he would have brought up acetic acid when talking about the stuff.
 
Smont said:
As far as I'm aware, acetic acid won't make a difference, and seeing how it was vigorous Steve who goes balls deep into the most optimal way to do things I'm 99.99999% sure he would have brought up acetic acid when talking about the stuff.
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Yea sometimes Steve can be a little " too healthy/ conservative.." don't really know the word I'm looking for but I'm sure you guys get what I'm saying
 
Mikereyn513 said:
Yea sometimes Steve can be a little " too healthy/ conservative.." don't really know the word I'm looking for but I'm sure you guys get what I'm saying
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I 100% know what your getting at. But I don't see where the comment fits into the post I made about acetic acid. Or did you just quote it because it was about Steve.

I don't watch any of his videos anymore, I just wait till the podcast q and a episodes are released and listen to those.

By the way, it's the podcast from the 13th that he brings up mot-c
 
Smont said:
I 100% know what your getting at. But I don't see where the comment fits into the post I made about acetic acid. Or did you just quote it because it was about Steve.

I don't watch any of his videos anymore, I just wait till the podcast q and a episodes are released and listen to those.

By the way, it's the podcast from the 13th that he brings up mot-c
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Yea kinda just a rant about Steve. I mean the guy us awesome but it's getting to the point where he sounds like he looks down on someone who uses ugl and not pharma. Im with you tho I just watch the weekly q and a now. He was on big Paul's weekly episode last week. Have you seen what chase irons is running right now?
 
Smont said:
I 100% know what your getting at. But I don't see where the comment fits into the post I made about acetic acid. Or did you just quote it because it was about Steve.

I don't watch any of his videos anymore, I just wait till the podcast q and a episodes are released and listen to those.

By the way, it's the podcast from the 13th that he brings up mot-c
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I’ll have to look up that podcast and check it out. After all I’ve seen with that peptide, it just doesn’t seem to be worth the money for the doses I’m seeing suggested. I would just rather pick up more HGH, at least I know what to expect and know the results, but I’m always interested in new peptides to learn about.
 
gphagan1 said:
I’ll have to look up that podcast and check it out. After all I’ve seen with that peptide, it just doesn’t seem to be worth the money for the doses I’m seeing suggested. I would just rather pick up more HGH, at least I know what to expect and know the results, but I’m always interested in new peptides to learn about.
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What's the price on this stuff, I don't see it for sale anywhere I'd normally look
 
On a side note I didn't pin anything or train for a few days and started back yesterday. I'm no pinning eq any more and dropping test to 300 for the time being because this cycle has been a 100% waste for me. No new progress has been made, I'm kinda morphing back into a look I previously had but I can't see a single reason to be on cycle while training half ass and not hungry enough. I'm gonna keep dieting and training around injuries and at least look beach ready around 200lbs for summer. Im pretty close to beach ready now and probably 10lbs away from where I think is acceptable. So looks like I got 4.5 weeks of dieting and shoulder rehab. If the shoulders get worse "I'm not doing surgery unless it's 190% necessary" but if the shoulder get worse and I can't train upper body for a while I'm seriously just saying **** it and I'm spending my summer working and enjoying my free time and the gym will be my last priority. I'm 100% comfortable with how I look. If I can't maintain through the summer on a beefed up trt dose then I've done everything wrong for the past 4
 
Smont said:
What's the price on this stuff, I don't see it for sale anywhere I'd normally look
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I found it for $90 for 10 mg, not at AA, but the dosing protocols were all over the place. One was for 5mg every 5 days for health benefits all the way up to 10mg on Mon, Wed, and Friday for bodybuilding and training. So a cost of anywhere from $270 a month all the way up to $1080 a month. That’s why I said I would rather just purchase HGH.
 
Mikereyn513 said:
Yea kinda just a rant about Steve. I mean the guy us awesome but it's getting to the point where he sounds like he looks down on someone who uses ugl and not pharma. Im with you tho I just watch the weekly q and a now. He was on big Paul's weekly episode last week. Have you seen what chase irons is running right now?
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It’s probably easier for him to say that when he’s committed himself to minimal doses and probably has higher than average income while living in a particularly cheap cost of living location. But for younger people trying to grow into new sizes, the cost of pharm gear for those doses is just not nearly as appealing.

And to be realistic for a moment, someone 25 can tolerate a lot more beating from anabolics. They can get away with a lot more aggressive compound & dose exposure, so they often do. Especially when their risk tolerance is way higher than someone who has had their serious time & is now married with a successful business planning a family.

Yeah Chase said he’s up to 3g test & 1g mast But so far so good he said, as far as how he’s feeling. Hopefully for him bloodwork doesn’t show a bad turn.
 
Hyde said:
It’s probably easier for him to say that when he’s committed himself to minimal doses and probably has higher than average income while living in a particularly cheap cost of living location. But for younger people trying to grow into new sizes, the cost of pharm gear for those doses is just not nearly as appealing.

And to be realistic for a moment, someone 25 can tolerate a lot more beating from anabolics. They can get away with a lot more aggressive compound & dose exposure, so they often do. Especially when their risk tolerance is way higher than someone who has had their serious time & is now married with a successful business planning a family.

Yeah Chase said he’s up to 3g test & 1g mast But so far so good he said, as far as how he’s feeling. Hopefully for him bloodwork doesn’t show a bad turn.
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You ever noticed how a lot of these guys talk about using conservative doses even tho there on 1.5-2gm Which I still think is body builder conservative to a degree if it's just test, primo or eq or something "mild" but When one of them talks about their running 3g gear or more, No one really bats a eye or says anything about it lol
 
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