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You ever noticed how a lot of these guys talk about using conservative doses even tho there on 1.5-2gm Which I still think is body builder conservative to a degree if it's just test, primo or eq or something "mild" but When one of them talks about their running 3g gear or more, No one really bats a eye or says anything about it lol
I think they have all known enough guys or seen enough claims on forums that they aren’t surprised, regardless of what they have or haven’t done before.

One of the craziest things I’ve really heard of is a couple different powerlifters who reported using 9 or 10g of testosterone weekly. That’s about double the oil volume that even guys in the 5g range are handling. It just becomes a logistical issue, 4-5cc every single day for extensive periods.
 
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I think they have all known enough guys or seen enough claims on forums that they aren’t surprised, regardless of what they have or haven’t done before.

One of the craziest things I’ve really heard of is a couple different powerlifters who reported using 9 or 10g of testosterone weekly. That’s about double the oil volume that even guys in the 5g range are handling. It just becomes a logistical issue, 4-5cc every single day for extensive periods.
Guy I know is training for strongman right now and on 3g of gear but 1800 of it is eq lol
 
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Guy I know is training for strongman right now and on 3g of gear but 1800 of it is eq lol
At this point I’ve heard it all in strength, mild to wild. And I am totally convinced it’s all based on genetics & individual needs - I see people on their TRT who added 20mg Rad outperform guys taking all kinds of stuff. I’ve seen guys who used grams go down to 1/3rd and get stronger. There are WSM guys on a couple cc of test/wk and some orals, & other guys there who take double that every single day.
 
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At this point I’ve heard it all in strength, mild to wild. And I am totally convinced it’s all based on genetics & individual needs - I see people on their TRT who added 20mg Rad outperform guys taking all kinds of stuff. I’ve seen guys who used grams go down to 1/3rd and get stronger. There are WSM guys on a couple cc of test/wk and some orals, & other guys there who take double that every single day.
I got out done in deadlift by 180lb natty twice so I believe it. 5'6 180lbs and chubby, he pulls 500×3 the day I pull it for a single lol
 
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Guy I know is training for strongman right now and on 3g of gear but 1800 of it is eq lol
Wow, I bet he has to stay on top of his blood thickening on that dose. Probably has to take a blood thinner like Heparin or at a minimum Nattokinase or baby aspirin throughout the day.
 
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Wow, I bet he has to stay on top of his blood thickening on that dose. Probably has to take a blood thinner like Heparin or at a minimum Nattokinase or baby aspirin throughout the day.
No clue, he's been doing this for about 5 years now and this is probably the most gear he's ever done but I don't believe ive ever heard him mention doing planned cycle bloodwork. I know he goes in 2x a year and gets a physical and whatever bloodwork his Dr. Tells him but I don't think he does any extra. So if his cycle don't fall in line with his 2x a year visits I doubt he knows what's going on. I been pretty lazy myself with bloodwork the past 2 years I've only gone twice I think and one was recently. But I also don't run anything crazy and I don't seem to get too many issues from gear. Not a excuse to not go, I'm just saying my risk on 300/450 test and eq or 300/300 test mast and the random oral is probably less worrisome then 3g of gear and 1.8gm of eq 😆
 
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No clue, he's been doing this for about 5 years now and this is probably the most gear he's ever done but I don't believe ive ever heard him mention doing planned cycle bloodwork. I know he goes in 2x a year and gets a physical and whatever bloodwork his Dr. Tells him but I don't think he does any extra. So if his cycle don't fall in line with his 2x a year visits I doubt he knows what's going on. I been pretty lazy myself with bloodwork the past 2 years I've only gone twice I think and one was recently. But I also don't run anything crazy and I don't seem to get too many issues from gear. Not a excuse to not go, I'm just saying my risk on 300/450 test and eq or 300/300 test mast and the random oral is probably less worrisome then 3g of gear and 1.8gm of eq 😆
Yeah, your doses are reasonable and manageable, but I couldn’t imagine what 1.8 gm of EQ would do to my blood…..one word, molasses.
 
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Yeah, your doses are reasonable and manageable, but I couldn’t imagine what 1.8 gm of EQ would do to my blood…..one word, molasses.
Like trying to power a gasoline motor on diesel, it ain't a good idea!!!
 
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Like trying to power a gasoline motor on diesel, it ain't a good idea!!!
Yeah if you have excessively thick blood to pump it’s not going to give nearly as much endurance, which is a big part of the benefit of EQ for strongman. At some point it would be better to use more test/mast than extra EQ if you need more mg but don’t need substantially more RBC. All gear will still raise it some, after all.
 
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Yeah if you have excessively thick blood to pump it’s not going to give nearly as much endurance, which is a big part of the benefit of EQ for strongman. At some point it would be better to use more test/mast than extra EQ if you need more mg but don’t need substantially more RBC. All gear will still raise it some, after all.
I actually asked him before if that's why he uses so much eq and he said no, the only reason he pushes it up so high is because he can't push the other things up without side effects. Now obviously he probably isint talking about internal sides but visual sides. More test gives him bad acne, more mast gives him prostate issues where he feels like he's waking up to pee all night. So he has those drugs maxed out and only raises eq from what I gather and he occasionally uses little bits of npp and tren ace.
He's a pretty big dude, not overly muscular but like 6'5 350+ he's no Thor or Brian shaw but he's a large human with or without gear
 

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Guy I know is training for strongman right now and on 3g of gear but 1800 of it is eq lol
1800 a week if it's dosed at 300 than that's a cc a day( for 6 days )which means he's going through a bottle I less than 2 weeks!
 
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I actually asked him before if that's why he uses so much eq and he said no, the only reason he pushes it up so high is because he can't push the other things up without side effects. Now obviously he probably isint talking about internal sides but visual sides. More test gives him bad acne, more mast gives him prostate issues where he feels like he's waking up to pee all night. So he has those drugs maxed out and only raises eq from what I gather and he occasionally uses little bits of npp and tren ace.
He's a pretty big dude, not overly muscular but like 6'5 350+ he's no Thor or Brian shaw but he's a large human with or without gear
He is literally the exact true use case for DHB.

Pull 6-800 EQ out and run 200 DHB. Less blood volume overdrive (read: STROKE RISK in a medley), better insulin sensitivity/metabolic health/nutrient utilization at high bodyfat, greater power output, better skill acquisition & retention periods between training an implement, similar anabolism/protein accretion.
 
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So now that I backed off the idea of a blast for a while.....

I'm still waiting on 2× test, 2x eq, 3x mast e, 1 time tren e

And I ordered from a new source some test, tren ace and mast prop.

I still have some anadrol and epistane

Lots of peptides

3 bottles of injectable yk11

And about 20 pens of long acting insulin.

Sooooo ........ Whenever it's time for my next cycle, I am way ahead of the drug order lol.

Obviously I got a while to get fixed up still
 
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Everything showed up in the mail today, from both suppliers. I think I'm gonna keep stocking up until I have like 30 bottles on hand to do whatever I want. I guess hgh should be next on the list. Looks like dad's working OT again next week 😆
 
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So you even got the stuff you had written off eh?
 
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I couldn't have that much on hand at one time. I know I'd convince myself to do something stupid
Im the worse combination of personality types. Im a hoarder, so I get anxious if I dont have 2+ years worth of gear stashed away; I have no self-control if I dont watch myself, and Ill be tempted like a kid by candy.
 
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So hopefully you have a decent source there still!

I will say, it can be tough some times sitting on a bunch of gear in the war chest. I think the thing that keeps me from starting it is that there’s just too much to use in any one cycle.
Ya, the old sources stuff is going through a micron filter when the time comes and IL probably start with just test and get my total t checked. On 150mg it should read around 900-960.

New source I've actually known about, The only reason I chose not to use him originally was because he had a limited selection, and still does. But he's got the old school basics. Like, imagine what a 90s bodybuilder would use, that's what he carries. Test, deca, eq, Mast, tren, dbol, winny
 

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With all this talk of mega dose cycles….is anyone in need of some pharma anastrozole? I have 8 bottles that are unopened. I hate for it to go to waste. I’m on TRT and it’s prescribed to me. CVS auto refills it so I just stock pile it but I have too much. None of it has expired. If anyone is interested just PM me.
 
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Im the worse combination of personality types. Im a hoarder, so I get anxious if I dont have 2+ years worth of gear stashed away; I have no self-control if I dont watch myself, and Ill be tempted like a kid by candy.
Yeah there’s enough oil to compete for over a year, probably 2 if I use the Trest & random orals/SARMs.
 

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@Smont stash all that in a lock box and forget it even exists other than the test for trt purposes. Then work as much as you can, put a wallpaper on your phone of serostim or norditropin. For the next 6 months just save and save and save. Then by the first of the year you'd have a legit pro cycle ready to go.
 
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With all this talk of mega dose cycles….is anyone in need of some pharma anastrozole? I have 8 bottles that are unopened. I hate for it to go to waste. I’m on TRT and it’s prescribed to me. CVS auto refills it so I just stock pile it but I have too much. None of it has expired. If anyone is interested just PM me.
My bad I ment to tag you here to mention this. Hit this guy up if you want a pharma ai in your stash. If I didn't get so many things to sample from Mike I'd snatch these right up
 
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@Smont stash all that in a lock box and forget it even exists other than the test for trt purposes. Then work as much as you can, put a wallpaper on your phone of serostim or norditropin. For the next 6 months just save and save and save. Then by the first of the year you'd have a legit pro cycle ready to go.
I put them in a vacuum sealed bag in my sock drawer. I can't **** with anything till my shoulders get right. If I blast IL start trying to work up to a 405 bench and destroy myself lol.

I may or may not have had my cousin bring me a half pound of bud he needed to stash somewhere. I know a lot of ppl that smoke too so he basically said get rid of what you can and IL give you x amount lol. So if I really want to I can make some extra scratch on this too
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My 16 year old walks in as I'm putting it away and nonchalantly says mom, dad and uncle Erik are starting a drug factory lol
 

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I put them in a vacuum sealed bag in my sock drawer. I can't **** with anything till my shoulders get right. If I blast IL start trying to work up to a 405 bench and destroy myself lol.

I may or may not have had my cousin bring me a half pound of bud he needed to stash somewhere. I know a lot of ppl that smoke too so he basically said get rid of what you can and IL give you x amount lol. So if I really want to I can make some extra scratch on this too View attachment 232694

My 16 year old walks in as I'm putting it away and nonchalantly says mom, dad and uncle Erik are starting a drug factory lol
Thats hilarious about you're son. That's cool tho from the few stories you've told us about them they seem like they really gave their heads on straight. Credit to you and your wife
 
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Thats hilarious about you're son. That's cool tho from the few stories you've told us about them they seem like they really gave their heads on straight. Credit to you and your wife
Mostly credit to my girl lol. I teach them to prepare for the bad stuff In life and she takes care of everything else. My daughter is honer roll, honey society and was the junior prom queen this year. (She bribed everyone with cookies and chocolate covered pretzels to vote for her lol)

My son is actually the 14 year old. We actually got a email from the school that him in 9 other students are the top of there class and my son is 3rd I believe. We got a special ceremony for him next week.

I'm happy there doing good because I was honers till freshman year of high school and then everything went to **** for sports and girls lol
 
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That’s funny your son telling your wife that y’all are starting a drug factory……from everything you have said they do sound like good kids, and it sounds like your daughter could already be a politician.
 

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Mostly credit to my girl lol. I teach them to prepare for the bad stuff In life and she takes care of everything else. My daughter is honer roll, honey society and was the junior prom queen this year. (She bribed everyone with cookies and chocolate covered pretzels to vote for her lol)

My son is actually the 14 year old. We actually got a email from the school that him in 9 other students are the top of there class and my son is 3rd I believe. We got a special ceremony for him next week.

I'm happy there doing good because I was honers till freshman year of high school and then everything went to **** for sports and girls lol
The EXACT thing happened to me. I was the chubby kid who listened to heavy metal music. And then the summer between 8th grade and freshman year I went into the school weight room, football coach saw me ( he was a competitive powerlifter ) and then life completely changed. Girls that wouldn't look twice at me in middle school started passing me notes in high school
 
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That’s funny your son telling your wife that y’all are starting a drug factory……from everything you have said they do sound like good kids, and it sounds like your daughter could already be a politician.
I guess I'm a little too open with them in the sense I don't hide most things. But I also literally trust them that much that I could leave anything out and they know not to touch it. I want them to know as much bad stuff as good stuff so there prepared for real life situations. I had too many friends grow up sheltered from life and turn into drug attics or die because they dove in not knowing the consequences. The pot thing doesn't bother me because 3 of there 4 grandparents smoke pot, both of my siblings and 3 of my girls siblings all smoke pot. They don't really have much interest. They see everyone stoned and fat and lazy and the kids think it makes everyone too lazy. Even myself. I only use pot when I want to shut down. Sit on the couch and my day is over.
 
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Apparently my cousin made friends with someone who grows a lot of pot lol. Who remembers hiding this from everyone. Now it's legal in my state lol
my wife and I have been watching the TV show suits a lot lately and it cracks me up the way they act like pot is heroin because it's been legal here in Washington for so long I don't even think about it anymore.
 
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my wife and I have been watching the TV show suits a lot lately and it cracks me up the way they act like pot is heroin because it's been legal here in Washington for so long I don't even think about it anymore.
It's only been legal here for a year maybe but we have had the dispensaries around for years now and no1 cares. Like 2 or 3 weeks ago we had a memorial softball tournament and there were at least 3 cops playing in the tournament and people were smoking weed in the dugout lol
 
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my wife and I have been watching the TV show suits a lot lately and it cracks me up the way they act like pot is heroin because it's been legal here in Washington for so long I don't even think about it anymore.
Dude, Suits is super legit! I loved that show!!!!
 
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yeah the pot thing is interesting. it doesn't interest me, although I do tend to like the smell. But I can't stand smoking anything anyways, I don't like the feel in my throat. even cigars make me feel like puking these days and I used to always have one on the golf course in the winter. only "real" negative I see locally with legalization is a LOT more kids are smoking now and it does seem like the potency is much stronger than when we were kids.

Dude, Suits is super legit! I loved that show!!!!
ha same, we have been binging it often hitting 2 episodes at a time lol
 
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That’s funny your son telling your wife that y’all are starting a drug factory……from everything you have said they do sound like good kids, and it sounds like your daughter could already be a politician.
I just noticed the last part of your post. I told her, you wanna run for class president or prom queen ect then you need to act like people running for office. You need to make you voice heard and give people reasons to pick you. So she went with the old bribery tactics lol
 
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I just noticed the last part of your post. I told her, you wanna run for class president or prom queen ect then you need to act like people running for office. You need to make you voice heard and give people reasons to pick you. So she went with the old bribery tactics lol
She’s a natural. Lol
 
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I just noticed the last part of your post. I told her, you wanna run for class president or prom queen ect then you need to act like people running for office. You need to make you voice heard and give people reasons to pick you. So she went with the old bribery tactics lol
A little dig on dad's wallet and she can become a world leader.

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I may have asked @Hyde this a while back and forgot but does anyone have a alternative site like AA where I can grab injectable d3 and carnatine?
 

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I may have asked @Hyde this a while back and forgot but does anyone have a alternative site like AA where I can grab injectable d3 and carnatine?
The only place I know of is AA
 
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The only place I know of is AA
I'm not purchasing from them. I've had bottles show up not sealed, you literally just screw off the cap and it's open. I had someone send me pictures of **** floating in one of there injectables and there trest ace was was underdosed.

I'd rather buy stuff brewed in a toilet lol. There's probably a 100 sites like them if we look hard enough, I'm just trying to find which ones are most popular so I can take a shot with them.
 
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Do you have a particular reason for wanting injectable D-vit? 100 ug of oral per day (oil capsules) has worked fine for me, verified via blood test. For what it's worth.
 
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Do you have a particular reason for wanting injectable D-vit? 100 ug of oral per day (oil capsules) has worked fine for me, verified via blood test. For what it's worth.
Ive been using oral d3 as a staple supplement for 15+ years,I use to take 5,000 -10,000 a day and as high as 30,000, but usually 5,000 and haven't for a while simplybecausei just haven't bought more. My uncle been talking about how great he feels on his D3 injection the Dr.gave 50,000iu I believe and now he does 25,000 iu every Sunday. Yesterday I took 25,000 iu and I feel like a million bucks. And if you look around you can did lots of info on why d3 injection is better. Oral works completely fine, but the way I feel after a 25,000iu injection is not comparable to any dose
 
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I woke up today feeling less stress and no anxiety. Energized and just all around good. Maybe so.e of it is a coincidences but I've never been one to feel a placebo effect. I'm usually the guy who feels nothing
 
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Shoulders still feel like dogs shyit tho. Wrists and hands have been stiff and sore too but I've actually been doing some training to specifically strengthen the wrists and hands so that could just be like a newb soreness type response
 
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Ive been using oral d3 as a staple supplement for 15+ years,I use to take 5,000 -10,000 a day and as high as 30,000, but usually 5,000 and haven't for a while simplybecausei just haven't bought more. My uncle been talking about how great he feels on his D3 injection the Dr.gave 50,000iu I believe and now he does 25,000 iu every Sunday. Yesterday I took 25,000 iu and I feel like a million bucks. And if you look around you can did lots of info on why d3 injection is better. Oral works completely fine, but the way I feel after a 25,000iu injection is not comparable to any dose
I know injections for D3 are better in many cases. But I have thought, that if your D vit levels are good with exposure to sun, or by oral administration or both, then you'd be gtg. Your findings are interesting. Could it just be the big dose all coming at once? Have you checked your levels on oral D3? Maybe it doesn't work well for you orally, like it doesn't for some. And maybe it's the same for your uncle. Not important though, just interesting..
 
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I know injections for D3 are better in many cases. But I have thought, that if your D vit levels are good with exposure to sun, or by oral administration or both, then you'd be gtg. Your findings are interesting. Could it just be the big dose all coming at once? Have you checked your levels on oral D3? Maybe it doesn't work well for you orally, like it doesn't for some. And maybe it's the same for your uncle. Not important though, just interesting..
I haven't looked at d3 levels recently but they were always good. And I supplement it, and I work outside 3/4 of the year so I'm sure I get plenty of sunlight too. But it's not just the bolus dose. If it was then 30,000iu orally would do the same and it dosent
 

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