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THUNDERGOD'S FIRST FREAKSHOW OF 2009!! Step Inside.....D-Bol and E-Max

pistonpump said:
just a pp/sd bridge with low dose phera on the side.
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Don't you mean a pp/sd bridge with EPI on the side??!! :thinking:
Gotcha!! :mischievous: ha ha
 
funny thing is i've taken AS orals before. got my first back pump off epi. and i did superdrol, winny, var, primo, d-bol and nada.
 
DAY 8

The dosages increased as of today. Now I'm taking 50 mg. of E-Max (epithio) and 30 mg. of Dianabol per day.

Pre-workout: 30 mg. of E-Max and the whole 30 mg. of D-Bol!!!
Evening of workout days: 20 mg. of E-Max.

Non-workout days: Morning: 30 mg. of E-Max and 15 mg. of D-Bol.
Evenings of non-workout days: 20 mg. of E-Max and 15 mg. of D-Bol.
 
CYCLE DAY 8 -- Yeah!! IT'S ON NOW!!

NEWS FROM THE FRONTLINES

All rest-pauses and drop sets have a 10 second rest between them. Once again, these are NOT DC style rest-pauses.

CHEST

INCLINE BENCH PRESSES: {rest-pause} 315 X 7-1-1=9 total reps.
{drop set} 295 X 9, drop 245 X 8. Now we're doing it!!
INCLINE DB FLYES STRAIGHT INTO INCLINE DB PRESSES: {pre-exhaust set}
Incline DB Flyes: 70's X 11
Incline DB Presses: 70's X 17!!
There is NO rest at all between a pre-exhaust set. And the isolation movement done first will take your strength away from the compound movement that follows. You guys should try some of these. I can normally Incline DB Press the 100's for 22 reps!! So you see how the flyes will zap you!!
PULLOVERS: {dropset} 150 X 11, drop 120 X 10.
STANDING PEC-DECK FLYES STRAIGHT INTO FLAT MACHINE PRESSES: {pre-exhaust set} Standing Pec-Deck Flyes: 200 X 17
Flat Machine Presses: 200 X 18 . No rest at all between these 2 exercises! Brutal.

SHOULDERS

MACHINE SHOULDER PRESSES: {rest-pause} 260 X 7-2=9 total reps!
{drop set} 220 X 10, drop 180 X 9. Here comes the pain baby!!
SEATED DB SIDE LATERALS STRAIGHT INTO SEATED DB PRESSES: {pre-exhaust set} Seated DB Side Laterals: 40's X 12, 40's X 13
Seated DB Presses: 60's X 12, 60's X 14!!
I was stronger on the second set! I got into the groove I guess.
DB BENTOVER REAR LATERALS: {drop set} 60's X 10, drop 40's X 9. On fire!!
SEATED PALMS UP DB FRONT LATERALS (ala Toney Freeman) {superset} 30's X 10. Straight into STANDING ROTATING DB FRONT LATERALS: 30's X 9.

TRICEPS

STANDING PUSHDOWNS: {drop set} 210 X 10, drop 170 X 13.
LYING TRICEPS EXTENSIONS (skull-crushers) STRAIGHT INTO CLOSE-GRIP BENCH PRESSES WITH EZ BAR: {superset} Lying Extensions: 135 X 13
Close-Grip Bench Presses: 135 X 11. No rest between the 2 exercises.
SEATED BEHIND HEAD DB EXTENSIONS: 110 X 12. Felt heavy after all the other shit I just did. I frikkin love it!!
CABLE KICKBACKS: {drop set} 60 X 10, drop 40 X 11. Torched 'em!!

My gear is kicking like a 3-legged ninja now!! LOL
I felt invincible this morning. Totally superhuman. Embued with the Odin-Force and living on the lightening bolt!!

SLAY THE FEAR!!!
DESTROY ALL DOUBT!!!
 
thundergod said:
DAY 8

The dosages increased as of today. Now I'm taking 50 mg. of E-Max (epithio) and 30 mg. of Dianabol per day.

Pre-workout: 30 mg. of E-Max and the whole 30 mg. of D-Bol!!!
Evening of workout days: 20 mg. of E-Max.

Non-workout days: Morning: 30 mg. of E-Max and 15 mg. of D-Bol.
Evenings of non-workout days: 20 mg. of E-Max and 15 mg. of D-Bol.
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Wow! That sounds like some serious shiznit, my brotha! Curious to hear how you're liking that (though I've no doubt you're loving it ;))
 
thundergod said:
DAY 8

The dosages increased as of today. Now I'm taking 50 mg. of E-Max (epithio) and 30 mg. of Dianabol per day.

Pre-workout: 30 mg. of E-Max and the whole 30 mg. of D-Bol!!!
Evening of workout days: 20 mg. of E-Max.

Non-workout days: Morning: 30 mg. of E-Max and 15 mg. of D-Bol.
Evenings of non-workout days: 20 mg. of E-Max and 15 mg. of D-Bol.
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Wow! That sounds like some serious shiznit, my brotha! Curious to hear how you're liking that (though I've no doubt you're loving it)
 
:jaw:YES! NOW THAT IS A WORKOUT FIT FOR A GOD!!!

:boobies: :head: :hump: :rant2: :frustrate :firedevil:
:boobies: :head: :hump: :rant2: :frustrate :firedevil:
:boobies: :head: :hump: :rant2: :frustrate :firedevil:
 
i can't get over those tricep pushdowns - 30 pounds under your body weight! that's serious strength brotha.
 
suncloud said:
i can't get over those tricep pushdowns - 30 pounds under your body weight! that's serious strength brotha.
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They might not be the prettiest pushdowns ever. I lean into it with one leg forward. Gives me leverage. Think Branch Warren. And he uses more weight than I do!!
Do you know who the Barbarian Twins are? Peter and David Paul? I saw one standing on a 200 lb. weight stack and the other brother was doing fukkin pushdowns with him and the whole stack!!! Now that's fukkin insane!!! :fool2:
I don't see how he stayed on the ground. I saw a pic of it on youtube. If I can find it, I'll paste it and post it here.
 
thundergod said:
They might not be the prettiest pushdowns ever. I lean into it with one leg forward. Gives me leverage. Think Branch Warren. And he uses more weight than I do!!
Do you know who the Barbarian Twins are? Peter and David Paul? I saw one standing on a 200 lb. weight stack and the other brother was doing fukkin pushdowns with him and the whole stack!!! Now that's fukkin insane!!! :fool2:
I don't see how he stayed on the ground. I saw a pic of it on youtube. If I can find it, I'll paste it and post it here.
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hrm. the barbarian twins must be using the double pulley, which halves the weight used. there's no way you could stay on the ground unless you had either a weight belt fully loaded, or your toes under a 100lb dumbell.

reverse grip, i think 110 is the most i've done with actual weight (not double pulleyed), so i got me some catching up to do !
 
I know that Branch uses the whole stack of what looks like at least 200 lbs. with a plate pinned to the stack (probably 245 lbs. total). And he nails em' out for like 25 reps!!!! He's a beast!!
 
Hey suncloud....check out these 150 lb. DB curls!!!

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And check out this 500 lb. REVERSE-GRIP Bench Press!!!! WOW!!!

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Another convincing victory over the iron TG. I think the troops are motivated now big man...thanks again!!
 
Strength is off the hook TG and I love those pre-exhaust sets. Gotta try using them again, they straight blew up my chest when I was doing them, hope that they do the same for you mayne! Keep killing it!
 
thundergod said:
I know that Branch uses the whole stack of what looks like at least 200 lbs. with a plate pinned to the stack (probably 245 lbs. total). And he nails em' out for like 25 reps!!!! He's a beast!!
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that's sick! and some awesome videos! i'm going to beat my tri's senseless today :)
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Another convincing victory over the iron TG. I think the troops are motivated now big man...thanks again!!
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You troops motivate the Hel outta me!! :clap2::notworthy:
You guys just don't realize how much you inspire me to keep going heavier, stronger, and more intensely!!
 
Dammit TG it's all your fault I can get off these drop sets on the Hammer Incline last night I did 3 quad drop sets. OK OK maybe not all TG;s Fault I did take a dose of NO Shotgun and a dose of JP8 pre workout.
 
Suncloud......here's some more Barbarians' intensity to feed off of!!!
This shizz gets me all fired up!!!


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thundergod said:
I know that Branch uses the whole stack of what looks like at least 200 lbs. with a plate pinned to the stack (probably 245 lbs. total). And he nails em' out for like 25 reps!!!! He's a beast!!
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Stop being modest TG. I heard from a reliable source that you've replaced the stack in your home gym with a small automobile...I think they said it was a Fiat, but I can't remember for sure.
 
thundergod said:
Hey suncloud....check out these 150 lb. DB curls!!!

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Damn, I know these guys are strong and hek I can't do that with 150 lbs dumbells but that is such sloppy form. I find that with a lot of these guys. All I can think of is damn the drugs must be good for a guy to be able to train that bad and make good gains. Don't mind me being natural all these years (except for some minor experimentation) has made it necessary for me to be very technical so I may be overly critical in that department. Maybe just maybe that's why I am able to get so huge just using herbs though lol
 
Not impressed with the technique at all....but that is still 150 LBs in each hand there!!
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Not impressed with the technique at all....but that is still 150 LBs in each hand there!!
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I don't like seeing someone do swing curls; there is no form.
Concept of Inertia said:
Newton's first law of motion states that "An object at rest tends to stay at rest and an object in motion tends to stay in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force." Objects tend to "keep on doing what they're doing." In fact, it is the natural tendency of objects to resist changes in their state of motion. This tendency to resist changes in their state of motion is described as inertia.
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Everyone has the right to do as they wish, though. That's the beauty of living in a Free Country.

TG - Keep annihilating the steel, my friend!
 
Iron Lungz said:
I don't like seeing someone do swing curls; there is no form.

Everyone has the right to do as they wish, though. That's the beauty of living in a Free Country.

TG - Keep annihilating the steel, my friend!
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Ah, good ol physics. Yea, the swinging curls are wack... probably didn't get much out of doing those other than some busted elbow joints. But whatever, it's one thing to pick up 300 lbs, its a whole 'nother thing to curl it, good form or not. They were obviously on a talk show too, so max weight = most recognition. 99% of people couldn't tell a bad curl from a good one.
 
GMG760 said:
Ah, good ol physics. Yea, the swinging curls are wack... probably didn't get much out of doing those other than some busted elbow joints. But whatever, it's one thing to pick up 300 lbs, its a whole 'nother thing to curl it, good form or not. They were obviously on a talk show too, so max weight = most recognition. 99% of people couldn't tell a bad curl from a good one.
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I feel like I could probably get a few reps like that with 80's... Not that I'm going to try...

What a waste of time.
 
GMG760 said:
Ah, good ol physics. Yea, the swinging curls are wack... probably didn't get much out of doing those other than some busted elbow joints. But whatever, it's one thing to pick up 300 lbs, its a whole 'nother thing to curl it, good form or not. They were obviously on a talk show too, so max weight = most recognition. 99% of people couldn't tell a bad curl from a good one.
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i just stayed in a wrecked old joint w/ 25lb bells and guess what? i managed a good workout by maintaining slow reps and squeezing at both the contraction and release. It's not about weight, we make it that. I can bench 375. Great. Good for me. Can I do it in perfect form? No. Should I? F**k yeah. Too often we let our egos get in the way. I love saying I can rep 375. But that's not the best I can do for myself. I'd be better concentrating on 280.
 
GMG760 said:
Ah, good ol physics. Yea, the swinging curls are wack... probably didn't get much out of doing those other than some busted elbow joints. But whatever, it's one thing to pick up 300 lbs, its a whole 'nother thing to curl it, good form or not. They were obviously on a talk show too, so max weight = most recognition. 99% of people couldn't tell a bad curl from a good one.
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yeah, im sure that stat is a lil over estimated, just a lil.
 
GMG760 said:
Ah, good ol physics. Yea, the swinging curls are wack... probably didn't get much out of doing those other than some busted elbow joints. But whatever, it's one thing to pick up 300 lbs, its a whole 'nother thing to curl it, good form or not. They were obviously on a talk show too, so max weight = most recognition. 99% of people couldn't tell a bad curl from a good one.
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99% of today's pros workout with terrible form (maybe exagerating on the % there). Any bb video will prove that. For some people it works. Arnie loved his cheat curls and his arms were huge.
 
cheating still works, not that i do that but i know you can use it as an actual way to build muscle. You can still work the muscle suffieciently with cheating movements as long as the muscle is stimulated.
 
I guess I cheat by using the Odin-Force instead of just my mortal strength sometimes!!! :box:
 
I have some wicked-ass DOMS in my triceps from yesterday's session already!!

Oh shit they're gonna be hurting by tomorrow!!! :yell: :aargh4:
 
Concerning cheating... that may work for some when they are taking enhancement products. I does not work well for natural athletes. I see it every day, guys I have watched for months making little to no progress. With correct form and a few little extra tricks I can use reasonably light weight and make very big gains. The bottom like is that it's all about strain. The purpose is to work the muscle as hard as you can. You can do that using good technique and slightly lighter weight.

Another thing about bad form is...because you don't work the muscle as much, real strength gain is harder to achieve. I can be training someone as a novice and in no time they are matching the lifts of the cheaters but using correct form not tell me who is stronger. I have nothing against people who use steroids, it's there choice and I mind my own business. One thing I don't like is that so many of them can't train and they still make gains which can be misleading for some. That's why it's important to establish yourself naturally first. The better you are naturally the better you will be period.
 
pistonpump said:
cheating still works, not that i do that but i know you can use it as an actual way to build muscle. You can still work the muscle suffieciently with cheating movements as long as the muscle is stimulated.
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The only time I've found it beneficial is when you're nearing the end of the set, and you have no other option for your last couple of reps...When you start out a set with a huge swinging motion, I don't think that's good at all. I do most everything with a very slow and controlled movement.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Concerning cheating... that may work for some when they are taking enhancement products. I does not work well for natural athletes. I see it every day, guys I have watched for months making little to no progress. With correct form and a few little extra tricks I can use reasonably light weight and make very big gains. The bottom like is that it's all about strain. The purpose is to work the muscle as hard as you can. You can do that using good technique and slightly lighter weight.

Another thing about bad form is...because you don't work the muscle as much, real strength gain is harder to achieve. I can be training someone as a novice and in no time they are matching the lifts of the cheaters but using correct form not tell me who is stronger. I have nothing against people who use steroids, it's there choice and I mind my own business. One thing I don't like is that so many of them can't train and they still make gains which can be misleading for some. That's why it's important to establish yourself naturally first. The better you are naturally the better you will be period.
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good post but i have to somewhat disagree. Im not a fan of cheaters but i dont think those statements are entirely true. Ok working the muscle is basically getting contraction from it, so say someone uses good form with light to moderate weight and full range of motion, he gets contraction full range and controlled. Now lets take someone who cheats heavy weight, if done to some degree of nonretardedness he could acheive a contraction greater than the other guy by getting a intense contraction albiet for just a second of the lift. I would have to agree that good form is better for growth but also in the long run where cheating can cause injury.

Also with the strength, in the end the guy who is using controlled movement has more 'complete' strength but a cheater can sometimes lift more than the other guy just because he has his cheat technique down. The weight is still going up so technically he is still lifting it. Idk did that make sense?

use good form guys :thumbsup:
 
Irish Cannon said:
The only time I've found it beneficial is when you're nearing the end of the set, and you have no other option for your last couple of reps...When you start out a set with a huge swinging motion, I don't think that's good at all. I do most everything with a very slow and controlled movement.
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good point, i do the same with the last few reps at times but not all the time, kinda depends on the excercise being performed. Im not saying cheating is good im just saying its not useless. It does however make me go :261: and start :frustrate: i want to :slap:
 
CARDIO UPDATE

MORNING HIIT CARDIO: 25 minutes on the ol' exer-cycle.
20 intervals of 30/30 seconds rotating high intensity with moderate intensity.

Feeling great this morning my loyal subscribers!! Energy is way up there. Stamina is very nice for an old guy!
Had a decent sweat going even though I do keep if kinda frigid in my home. It suits my Nordic blood.

You know, "I come from the land of the ice and snow.
And the midnight sun where the hotsprings flow!"

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pistonpump said:
good post but i have to somewhat disagree. Im not a fan of cheaters but i dont think those statements are entirely true. Ok working the muscle is basically getting contraction from it, so say someone uses good form with light to moderate weight and full range of motion, he gets contraction full range and controlled. Now lets take someone who cheats heavy weight, if done to some degree of nonretardedness he could acheive a contraction greater than the other guy by getting a intense contraction albiet for just a second of the lift. I would have to agree that good form is better for growth but also in the long run where cheating can cause injury.

Also with the strength, in the end the guy who is using controlled movement has more 'complete' strength but a cheater can sometimes lift more than the other guy just because he has his cheat technique down. The weight is still going up so technically he is still lifting it. Idk did that make sense?


use good form guys :thumbsup:
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Yes true but I am not necessarily talking about low to moderate weight, but as much weight as good form will allow, that in turn will help you build more strength and continue to increase the load. In the long run this has a much more beneficial for naturals. Now I am not saying that when we move up in weight that we don't cheat a little to get that last rep or 2, everybody does it.
 
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