The New Product Release Thread

Olympus Labs Levels (This is the NEW I Am Supreme Pre-Workout)
I Am Supreme Black Magic Edition = Re1gn renamed (Same formula)

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Flavors:
Should be around 3 flavors.
 
The Solution said:
Olympus Labs Levels (This is the NEW I Am Supreme Pre-Workout)
I Am Supreme Black Magic Edition = Re1gn renamed (Same formula)

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Flavors:
Should be around 3 flavors.
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They are re-designing their labels again? This is like the 4th time isn't it?

What's everyone's take on this formula...
 
Controlled Labs White Warped

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Controlled Labs plans on releasing its latest pre-workout creation sometime within the next couple of weeks. An entire tub of White Warped will pack a total of 30 full servings. Fans and followers of the brand will also have three flavors to choose from including a Candy Sour Apple.
Hyde



This is their current Pre ---> White Flash
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Maybe they are releasing a pump pre too containing vaso6?

Seem odd that white flash is the better pre yet it’s being replaced
 
TommyTuffGuy said:
They are re-designing their labels again? This is like the 4th time isn't it?

What's everyone's take on this formula...
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Label is interesting. I was hoping to see the Eria Janeris and Agmass. I was pretty excited for this pre but with the recent news of Vaso 6 pontentially being a flop I think I will hold off for now. I like that there is no yohimbine.

Also why 5 g’s cit vs 6 g’s?
 
rowz4broz said:
Label is interesting. I was hoping to see the Eria Janeris and Agmass. I was pretty excited for this pre but with the recent news of Vaso 6 pontentially being a flop I think I will hold off for now. I like that there is no yohimbine.

Also why 5 g’s cit vs 6 g’s?
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Sns should do a third party test since they sell it.
 
Resolve10 said:
Eria J and Agmass can still be found in I Am Supreme version. It contained 5g Citrulline too and I doubt people will notice between 5 vs 6. I remember when 5g Citrulline Malate was considered a big dose.
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Ahhh okay didn’t even notice tbh. I was however under the impression that levels would be RE1GN minus the stim x
 
DEVANS89 said:
Maybe they are releasing a pump pre too containing vaso6?

Seem odd that white flash is the better pre yet it’s being replaced
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I am not a huge fan of pre's to begin with, hardly ever use them. And I can see where you are coming from. But...pre's have made kind of an evolution. When they first started out in the 2000's, they actually had ingredients to improve what you got from your workouts - i.e. actually increased muscle growth over time. But then they started getting turned into pump and stim products...and I think what we're seeing in these latest two products is another step in that direction.

I think from the performance over time standpoint, white flash looks like the better product. From the pump standpoint, a lot of people will look at the reduced citrulline, etc. and think it's a lesser product - but a few ingredients in there will unexpectedly increase the effectiveness of the agmatine/citrulline so less is needed.

Not defending or bashing anything here...just my thoughts. Not saying it is right or wrong.
 
When OL dropped Re1gn it was new there was hype and new ingredients etc

But I’m just not excited for levels
Just looks like a run of the mill formula that will get lost with all the other pre’s dropping or dropped recently
 
I think having levels and IAS is the best of both worlds, I don’t want to be using IAS everyday so this way I can keep levels for push/Pull days and IAS for legs. Also they are both all in one pre workouts imo and when you want a stim break no mercy takes care of that.
 
DEVANS89 said:
When OL dropped Re1gn it was new there was hype and new ingredients etc

But I’m just not excited for levels
Just looks like a run of the mill formula that will get lost with all the other pre’s dropping or dropped recently
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I don’t think this is a run of the mill formula at all, I can’t see anything out there right now that beats this for a non exotic stim pre. I’m not excited for cl new pre though, not sure why they have went backwards?
 
Yikes! Well I guess now I know which pre I’ll be getting next when it was between white warped and levels. Is white warped replacing white flash? Seems like a major downgrade...
 
The Solution said:
Controlled Labs White Warped

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Controlled Labs plans on releasing its latest pre-workout creation sometime within the next couple of weeks. An entire tub of White Warped will pack a total of 30 full servings. Fans and followers of the brand will also have three flavors to choose from including a Candy Sour Apple.
Hyde



This is their current Pre ---> White Flash
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Thank you for posting the labels side by side for comparison.

Looks like Warped will be less pump-focused and a much tidier energy+focus blend. 2 forms of caffeine + Hup A and more Tyrosine is going to deliver a much better zone than White Flash, which labors under a suppressive 100mg L-Theanine IMHO. It will be interesting to see how the reduced Citruline/Agmatine + Spectra & Taurine combo equates to better or worse pump promotion than Flash (which is really good already). I suspect Warped will be almost as good as Flash in pumps, but with a better energy kick & focus.

Also a huge point of contention: this is FIFTY PERCENT (50%) more servings than Flash for what should be a comparable price point per tub. Controlled Labs products are designed to be modular. Green Might & Glycergrow2 would make even stronger pumps, and a few caps of Blue Sugar and some carbs pre-training could have you busting sleeves. But that’s not something every user or session demands, so why have to pay for it every time?

To me, it makes sense to have our White preWO be more essential and less frivolous, and cheaper.

White Flash, as far as I know, isn’t leaving shelves anytime soon, and even these 2 products can be stacked at appropriate doses (like all our products).
 
The Solution said:
The Stack3d Article says it is replacing white flash
The product is replacing the brand’s previous competitor in the busy pre-workout category, White Flash, which did feature a fairly potent combination of ingredients.

Are you sure? Can you Confirm This?
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It is indeed replacing it - production of White Flash is sunsetted & White Warped will become the flagship. But Flash should still be available from various retailers for the time being.
 
Hyde said:
It is indeed replacing it - production of White Flash is sunsetted & White Warped will become the flagship. But Flash should still be available from various retailers for the time being.
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Why though lol... i would take white flash over this any day of the week.
 
I like that several companies are switching to cit mal without the malate.
 
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Hyde said:
Thank you for posting the labels side by side for comparison.

Looks like Warped will be less pump-focused and a much tidier energy+focus blend. 2 forms of caffeine + Hup A and more Tyrosine is going to deliver a much better zone than White Flash, which labors under a suppressive 100mg L-Theanine IMHO. It will be interesting to see how the reduced Citruline/Agmatine + Spectra & Taurine combo equates to better or worse pump promotion than Flash (which is really good already). I suspect Warped will be almost as good as Flash in pumps, but with a better energy kick & focus.

Also a huge point of contention: this is FIFTY PERCENT (50%) more servings than Flash for what should be a comparable price point per tub. Controlled Labs products are designed to be modular. Green Might & Glycergrow2 would make even stronger pumps, and a few caps of Blue Sugar and some carbs pre-training could have you busting sleeves. But that’s not something every user or session demands, so why have to pay for it every time?

To me, it makes sense to have our White preWO be more essential and less frivolous, and cheaper.

White Flash, as far as I know, isn’t leaving shelves anytime soon, and even these 2 products can be stacked at appropriate doses (like all our products).
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I think there is a lot about White Warped people are missing. I am just trying to make the case based on what I see because it is interesting.

I think the paradigm they have gone with is that instead of focusing solely on activation of a pathway, they have also incorporated some things that inhibit the breakdown of those pathways.

So Levels incorporates a choline ingredient that hits the pathway. White Warped has a product that inhibits the breakdown of choline.

The "Spectra" blend also seems to have some ability to inhibit arginase - i.e. - inhibit the breakdown of NO inducing pathways. This will give you more bang for your buck from the citrulline and agmatine, and may also make it last longer.

Finally, your point about the 50% more servings is probably a big part of this. Good eyes. I bet the pumps from both products are probably very similar, and if you took 2 scoops of white warped it would maybe be stronger than WF....and the caffeine would send some people to the ER haha.

The new formula seems "honest" to me. Like it is avoiding a lot of flash and questionable stimulants, etc. Betaine would have been nice to keep...but maybe they are going to come out with a product to fill the Ergonine void or something?
 
bubbabignuts said:
Why though lol... i would take white flash over this any day of the week.
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Because of all the reasons listed already. You have to realize that guys like us on this board account for a very small % of the target audience.

I get to use any CL supplement I want - I can tell you right now without hesitation I will use this almost every single training session, like I do the Green products and Purple Wraath. White Flash I probably only take once a week - it just doesn’t hit hard enough due to Theanine to wake me up for heavy training at 6am on a dark cold winter morning.

White Warped is far way more like the OG White Flood.

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in for white flash closeout deals.
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Idk if they’re a board sponsor still, but Nutraplanet seriously has some sick closeouts on CL stuff that needs to move - keep an eye on those for real. Just don’t expect Cherry Limeade to hang around!
 
White flash didn’t sell well?

I never saw it on any uk supp websites
Yet some carry most of the line

Nothing


When white rapids dropped bb’s U.K. website had a bogof on it so I picked up two tubs and it was a great pre

After that the CL’s pres sort of just didn’t seem to make it to uk sites

Which is a shame as I would have liked to try WF looked like a good low stim pre for the evening sessions
 
DEVANS89 said:
White flash didn’t sell well?

I never saw it on any uk supp websites
Yet some carry most of the line

Nothing


When white rapids dropped bb’s U.K. website had a bogof on it so I picked up two tubs and it was a great pre

After that the CL’s pres sort of just didn’t seem to make it to uk sites

Which is a shame as I would have liked to try WF looked like a good low stim pre for the evening sessions
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Apparently, although I haven’t seen the numbers.

White Flash really is perfect for what you said - and flavoring was exceptional. It is a great product, the best pre they’ve ever made I think if cost/serving isn’t a consideration. But it’s a bit niche. I am excited to see how Warped actually feels.
 
Resolve10 said:
Ya guess I’ll have to grab some before it’s gone. A bit depressing to see that direction after being excited to see it. Oh well. There’s always something else anyways haha ?*♂️
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Spectra has some interesting data in humans. Sure, it isn't a flashy pre with every exotic stim currently available, however a lot of companies rely on stims to mask an otherwise subpar product.

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DEVANS89 said:
When OL dropped Re1gn it was new there was hype and new ingredients etc

But I’m just not excited for levels
Just looks like a run of the mill formula that will get lost with all the other pre’s dropping or dropped recently
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This is a globally compliant formula that utilizes the max allowable GRAS dose of Dynamine on the market. Anything over it isn't backed by the human toxicology being published. This is the king of globally compliant scalable products and i am suprem3 is the king of the hardcore domain, wouldn't make sense to do two hardcore formulas we rather emphasized onto licensed and high quality ingredients such as Cognizin, S7, Vaso6, etc, etc. List goes on and on. Its not run of the mill at all, lol..
 
Jiigzz said:
Spectra has some interesting data in humans. Sure, it isn't a flashy pre with every exotic stim currently available, however a lot of companies rely on stims to mask an otherwise subpar product.

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Exactly, Stims are great but the bulk of the costs come from licensed and patented ingredients, and Dynamine is not cheap.
 
Olympus Labs said:
This is a globally compliant formula that utilizes the max allowable GRAS dose of Dynamine on the market. Anything over it isn't backed by the human toxicology being published. This is the king of globally compliant scalable products and i am suprem3 is the king of the hardcore domain, wouldn't make sense to do two hardcore formulas we rather emphasized onto licensed and high quality ingredients such as Cognizin, S7, Vaso6, etc, etc. List goes on and on. Its not run of the mill at all, lol..
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I think it looks great
 
Olympus Labs said:
This is a globally compliant formula that utilizes the max allowable GRAS dose of Dynamine on the market. Anything over it isn't backed by the human toxicology being published. This is the king of globally compliant scalable products and i am suprem3 is the king of the hardcore domain, wouldn't make sense to do two hardcore formulas we rather emphasized onto licensed and high quality ingredients such as Cognizin, S7, Vaso6, etc, etc. List goes on and on. Its not run of the mill at all, lol..
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I can appreciate the ingredients used and the fact you are catering for the US/UK/EU markets

It just doesn’t blow me away as Re1gn did when it dropped
 
The label on White Warped says : "preworkout energy / endurance and nitric oxide enhancer".

I think the formula gets the job done if you understand energy as focus. It's simple but reliable, and quite stackable although the high content of caffeine must be accounted. I like to see agmatine, even if a full gram would have been perfect.

But overall if it's affordable it really is a nice product and as some mentionned it's obvious that stackability is part of the plan for CL. Curious to try it with additional COP, BA or PeakO2 for further endurance, and Yohimbine for energy.

I was already a fan of CL since Green Magnitude is great, i'm pleased to see they continue to deliver on the "simple but not simplistic" route.
 
Chamaan said:
The label on White Warped says : "preworkout energy / endurance and nitric oxide enhancer".

I think the formula gets the job done if you understand energy as focus. It's simple but reliable, and quite stackable although the high content of caffeine must be accounted. I like to see agmatine, even if a full gram would have been perfect.

But overall if it's affordable it really is a nice product and as some mentionned it's obvious that stackability is part of the plan for CL. Curious to try it with additional COP, BA or PeakO2 for further endurance, and Yohimbine for energy.

I was already a fan of CL since Green Magnitude is great, i'm pleased to see they continue to deliver on the "simple but not simplistic" route.
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More info on White Warped:

Flavors:
candy apple sour
gummy worm
strawberry jelly bean

From a rep on another board:

We went with a great core formula on White Warped that will produce great effects. it also is much cheaper per serving (almost half the price than flash at $29.99 for 30 servings) and way better tasting than previous formulas.
 
Ghost Whey Cinnamon Cereal Milk:
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Resolve10 said:
Just got in the Dragonfruit Candy, like it quite a bit! It’s been my go to for during training for a bit lately, pretty loaded product.
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It’s very refreshing but I actually like the other 2 flavors I have even more than the dragonfruit candy.
 
The Solution said:
Ghost Whey Cinnamon Cereal Milk:
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Can’t listen to the video yet, but have you tried Rule 1 toasted cinnamon? Curious how this compares
 
The Solution said:
More info on White Warped:

Flavors:
candy apple sour
gummy worm
strawberry jelly bean

From a rep on another board:

We went with a great core formula on White Warped that will produce great effects. it also is much cheaper per serving (almost half the price than flash at $29.99 for 30 servings) and way better tasting than previous formulas.
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Wow, are they putting this out because they had to pull VASO6 from White Flash?

On the other forums even the reps are like "Get White Flash before it's gone"....which is the best preworkout in years CL has had.
 
aaronuconn said:
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I know I can Google anything, I just like to hear from other people they may have something specific to say that an article may not have, or they may say something that is in the middle of an article, that I don't want to sift through.
 
The Solution said:
Posted this yesterday
^^^^ Outside of the forum bro's the mass market just did not buy it. Synapsin also wrote that on the other board

Here is his quote:
"I understand your concerns guys but it really just didn't sell outside of the forum group. "
"Unfortunately White Flash did not sell well at all, so we stuck with the core concepts of white flash + added a new ingredient to replace vaso6 for NO effects."
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That sucks, everyone I know NOT on the forums I put over to (and gave samples) and they all bought/loved it.

EDIT: I also think CL is doing themselves a disservice because casuals not familiar with their re-named scheme often can't figure out what to buy. There's so many White "Preworkouts" out there, some old stock, renamed, etc etc.
 
The Solution said:
If that is the case .. Cellucor and C4 would not market or sell any better, but guess what it is their flagship product.
People want an affordable pre-workout and something that tastes good. About 95% of the people in the industry don't care about ingredient profiles. Sad, but that is the truth. You have to remember us forum members or people who research ingredient profiles, clinical doses, and want something that is fully transparent are the minority.
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I agree with you here. Somehow multiple supplement stores stay open here in Canada selling garbage Preworkouts with jacked up prices as well as crazy prices on all other supplements as well.

So many people think a preworkout is so hardcore just because they feel beta alanine working lol. The general public have no idea.
 
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Oconns28 said:
I agree with you here. Somehow multiple supplement stores stay open here in Canada selling garbage Preworkouts with jacked up prices as well as crazy prices on all other supplements as well.

So many people think a preworkout is so hardcore just because they feel beta alanine working lol. The general public have no idea.
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Hey guys ... wanted to let you all know Gaspari just dropped a new flavor of Proven Egg today ... Salted Caramel. Available on Gaspari's direct site.

I'm hoping to get a few tubs to send out to some people to try.







-Spaz
 
Big_Spaz said:
Hey guys ... wanted to let you all know Gaspari just dropped a new flavor of Proven Egg today ... Salted Caramel.

I'm hoping to get a few tubs to send out to some people to try.


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OH MY! I already want to try the chocolate to see what the Egg protein is about but this, THIS, I MUST HAVE! My wife jokes how my "ears perk up" when I hear or see some new food item on a commercial (my love of food and especially new food items is well known) and this got the same reaction pretty much.
 
I'm definitely with you man, absolutely! Send me over your information just so I have it when I get some tubs to send out. Thanks brother!





-Spaz
 
The Solution said:
Ghost teasing Pancake Batter Vegan Protein

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Hmm, sounds interestig and I know I read their Vegan protein is better than most options but still hesitant to try their Vegan offerings after my 1 sample tub of Mixed Berry Select Vegan I was sent several years ago. That was just rough to use. Grainy, gritty and just hard to consume. Plant protein is not for me.

The cinnamon milk flavor though will be bought as have enjoyed every other flavor of Ghost's regular whey a lot.
Also, man I have to wonder what your supplement stash looks like. Your reviews and in the mail posts are always stacks upon stacks of stuff.

Big_Spaz said:
I'm definitely with you man, absolutely! Send me over your information just so I have it when I get some tubs to send out. Thanks brother!


-Spaz
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Thanks sent over my info.
 
Big_Spaz said:
Hey guys ... wanted to let you all know Gaspari just dropped a new flavor of Proven Egg today ... Salted Caramel. Available on Gaspari's direct site.

I'm hoping to get a few tubs to send out to some people to try.







-Spaz
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This sounds GREAT !!!!
 
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