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Old Witch said:
Anybody know why agmatine is noncompliant?
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I think it’s because they consider agmatine a “novel food”. There has to be evidence of consumption prior to some date in 1997 (iirc) and if there’s not, then you need to apply for novel food approval
 
Plus didn’t someone in Germany die and they linked it with agmatine supplementation

I may be way off but I remember something like that
 
Limited Edition Myofusion Chocolate Hazelnut MyoFusion coming back

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2lb and 4lb tubs for $38.49 and $65.99 respectively.
You can get a rep's 20% off code to make it a bit better in price (DOUG20)
 
Olympus Labs said:
Agmatine in preworkouts in 2019 is like arginine in preworkouts in 2019. It also has no worldwide compliance. The ingredients you suggested in replacement of the expensive ingredients we used don't make much sense to further any points since glycerol costs next to nothing. Agmatine doesn't work..

Read the PR release we put out to understand the new direction of branding which i call the evolution of branding if anything. It still utilizes the underutilized concept of storytelling which is popular in other industries but this one. This industry is based off a 2000 model. We're here to change that and be disruptive while carrying our forte of industry first ingredients and cutting edge formulations. Our model going forward is to be user centric and we have split the products in to hardcore series (with hardcore packaging) and a more premium lifestyle series. The PR release will answer all your questions though.

Seriously don't understand why people doubt ingredients with human data and praise ingredients with no applicable data like the ingredients you suggested. Try the product and i'm sure you will be impressed. The product is loaded and more advanced / multifaceted than any other product in its category
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Agmatine has a good analgesic effect for me personally.
 
Chamaan said:
Thanks, right now I'm using blood rush by centurion labs and I'm pleased with it.
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Looks pants with that much norvaline suprised your brain not hurting cells gone. Anyway back on topic. Dont say **** about another brand if the product your using is far worse
 
Olympus Labs said:
Agmatine in preworkouts in 2019 is like arginine in preworkouts in 2019. It also has no worldwide compliance. The ingredients you suggested in replacement of the expensive ingredients we used don't make much sense to further any points since glycerol costs next to nothing. Agmatine doesn't work..

Read the PR release we put out to understand the new direction of branding which i call the evolution of branding if anything. It still utilizes the underutilized concept of storytelling which is popular in other industries but this one. This industry is based off a 2000 model. We're here to change that and be disruptive while carrying our forte of industry first ingredients and cutting edge formulations. Our model going forward is to be user centric and we have split the products in to hardcore series (with hardcore packaging) and a more premium lifestyle series. The PR release will answer all your questions though.

Seriously don't understand why people doubt ingredients with human data and praise ingredients with no applicable data like the ingredients you suggested. Try the product and i'm sure you will be impressed. The product is loaded and more advanced / multifaceted than any other product in its category
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Maybe people doubt these ingredients because nowadays studies don't mean a lot since most are biased? And because it's hard to believe that extracts of simple fruits and veggies that any serious gym goer consumes everyday in large quantities are so exceptional when they come in a powder form?

Funny having this talk while vaso6 is the reason why compound solution just got sued.

I agree that the product is more "advanced" than most and as I said I like most of your products. But being sophisticated doesn't mean it is optimal for the price tag nor that the label makes sense. Peak02 would have been a better addition to triumph or another true "every day supp".

As for agmatine I believe your reasons are more compliance/distribution related because most users notice a bigger difference in pump and well being (as seen in the previous replies on this thread) than with other "science backed" supps.

But again maybe I'm disappointed because your company usually sets the bar quite high.
 
The Solution said:
Limited Edition Myofusion Chocolate Hazelnut MyoFusion coming back

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2lb and 4lb tubs for $38.49 and $65.99 respectively.
You can get a rep's 20% off code to make it a bit better in price (DOUG20)
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Will the OG vanilla be back!? That was my all time favorite
 
00A said:
Looks pants with that much norvaline suprised your brain not hurting cells gone. Anyway back on topic. Dont say **** about another brand if the product your using is far worse
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My brain hurts more from your reasoning about critical thinking.
 
Posted this in the wrong thread yday....
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FWIW agmatine has always provided me with the best pumps of any standalone ingredient. I can get keeping it out of No Mercy for the compliance issue but to say it doesn’t work is incorrect.

Will Levels still have agmass? I’m geuinely excited for Levels or the non black magic edition of reign
 
rowz4broz said:
Posted this in the wrong thread yday....
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FWIW agmatine has always provided me with the best pumps of any standalone ingredient. I can get keeping it out of No Mercy for the compliance issue but to say it doesn’t work is incorrect.

Will Levels still have agmass? I’m geuinely excited for Levels or the non black magic edition of reign
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OL with how much they are expanding into the international market it would not make sense for them to include agmatine.
Due to how hard it is to get into customs overseas. They would have to make a second formula or reformulation of that product just for the International market.
 
The Solution said:
OL with how much they are expanding into the international market it would not make sense for them to include agmatine.
Due to how hard it is to get into customs overseas. They would have to make a second formula or reformulation of that product just for the International market.
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Yep. Some brands have had shipments stopped at the border. And online retailers in EU are getting cracked down on as well. Also probably why they’ll take melatonin out of their sleep aid

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And yet here in the U.K. you can just walk in off the street and buy sarms. Infact you could/can buy superdrol off the shelf in some shops

Yet agmatine, all hell breaks loose
 
DEVANS89 said:
And yet here in the U.K. you can just walk in off the street and buy sarms. Infact you could/can buy superdrol off the shelf in some shops

Yet agmatine, all hell breaks loose
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lol.
DEVANS89 said:
Intracell
Granite do recovery

Off the top of my head


Otherwise just buy both in bulk and add them together then you can adjust the carbs
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Thanks for the suggestions. Not a fan of the Intracell formula (esp for the cost) and Granite is alright, but looking for a bit more carbs + EAA’s.

Yeah, bulk is usually the way to go. Was just curious if some combo product came out that I may have missed
 
DEVANS89 said:
And yet here in the U.K. you can just walk in off the street and buy sarms. Infact you could/can buy superdrol off the shelf in some shops

Yet agmatine, all hell breaks loose
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See also: nootropics. As you say, you can legally buy SARMS & PH’s but even something like noopept is now a prescribed drug under the psychoactive substances act, LOL
 
Gaspari Proven Egg Review
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Resolve10 said:
Outbreak Antidote is 24g carbs (just dextrose though) + 12g EAA + Actigin. A little expensive though so I haven’t purchased. I pretty much just buy EAAs and carbs separate I’ve yet to find a combo product that fits my personal qualifications.
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Looks like it’s just 6g dextrose + 6g EAA’s from the labels I saw
 
Nice review. Always like seeing reviews on Gaspari products. They’ve been in the game for awhile and I was a rich gaspari fan so good to see reviews on their products.
 
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The Solution said:
Limited Edition Myofusion Chocolate Hazelnut MyoFusion coming back

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2lb and 4lb tubs for $38.49 and $65.99 respectively.
You can get a rep's 20% off code to make it a bit better in price (DOUG20)
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Love this one! Way better than our regular Chocolate MyoFusion IMO.
 
aaronuconn said:
Yep. Some brands have had shipments stopped at the border. And online retailers in EU are getting cracked down on as well. Also probably why they’ll take melatonin out of their sleep aid

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Melatonin is still authorised in EU and heavily sold in all kinds of products. It is a question of dosage. You are not allowed to recommend 3mg per serving.
 
mbonheur said:
Melatonin is still authorised in EU and heavily sold in all kinds of products. It is a question of dosage. You are not allowed to recommend 3mg per serving.
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It’s regulation varies from country to country inside the EU. It’s prescription only in the U.K. for example
 
faipdeooiad said:
It’s regulation varies from country to country inside the EU. It’s prescription only in the U.K. for example
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Okay, that makes sense. I asked a pharmacist one time while living in Europe and they said it was prescription only. Clearly that was just the country, not the entire EU then
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Peak02 has positive data when dosed at 1g per day for 28 days, given it does appear to have a “build up” effect in the body - people generally train 4-6 times per week and over the course of 28 days you are in fact consuming an efficacious amount of the ingredient.

S7 will publish their data on the ingredient shortly until then, I am unable to make further comment - but once its out you will understand why it is effective , despite the low dose.

The price tag is not crazy to get all these trademarked ingredients, at effective dosages as well as big doses of citrulline and taurine in an amazing tasting drink.

But at the end of the day - each to their own.
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Fairly reasonable response, and I understand that different people will like different formulas too - so just because this lacks something doesn't make it good or bad. I don't like taking Yohimbine all that much but some people love it in a pre. I'd be miserable with a big enough dose.

Olympus Labs said:
Agmatine in preworkouts in 2019 is like arginine in preworkouts in 2019. It also has no worldwide compliance. The ingredients you suggested in replacement of the expensive ingredients we used don't make much sense to further any points since glycerol costs next to nothing. Agmatine doesn't work..

Read the PR release we put out to understand the new direction of branding which i call the evolution of branding if anything. It still utilizes the underutilized concept of storytelling which is popular in other industries but this one. This industry is based off a 2000 model. We're here to change that and be disruptive while carrying our forte of industry first ingredients and cutting edge formulations. Our model going forward is to be user centric and we have split the products in to hardcore series (with hardcore packaging) and a more premium lifestyle series. The PR release will answer all your questions though.

Seriously don't understand why people doubt ingredients with human data and praise ingredients with no applicable data like the ingredients you suggested. Try the product and i'm sure you will be impressed. The product is loaded and more advanced / multifaceted than any other product in its category
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Are you making the case that agmatine lacks scientific support but curcumin does have the scientific support for inclusion in a preworkout?

I think it's hard to claim agmatine doesn't have benefits or work and comparing it to arginine and acting like it is outdated is disingenuous at best.

You didn't include agmatine. That's fine. Some people may not like it or get little from it. It may not be compliant everywhere. There are a dozen better reasons you could have used to make your argument probably. I mean, it's easy to get and cheap enough that anyone could add it in if they like it. And we get that sales and profit are a factor.

And while human data on agmatine could be better, the number of studies on the ingredient otherwise is pretty overwhelming. To just ignore all of that and real life experience because of a lower than desired number of human trials is pretty foolish.

I'd love to see the data you have on human trials with S7, PeakO2, etc. - sincerely. It'll be an interesting conversation and I may learn a lot.
 
I happen to know the patent holder/creator for vaso6 I will reach out for a statement ... fwiw he is a genuinely good dude and without having any facts what so ever I would say it’s legit based on what I know about him personally.... that being said, the almighty dollar can make people do some wild stuff, and thermo life has been known to be an industry bully ... I’ll see what I can find out on/off the record and share accordingly.
 
Protein Ridges by Optimum

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15g of protein. The rest of the numbers for the Sour Cream flavor are 15g of carbohydrates with 2g of that sugar, 5g of fat, and a calorie count of 170.

The Gold Standard brand is launching the snack in five tasty sounding flavors with Salt & Vinegar, BBQ, Honey Siracha, Sour Cream, and Cheese.
 
I will volunteer to taste test the Honey Siracha !! (They all sound good)
 
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