TrainerTone
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What’s the point ? Study’s were some on 300 mg.
I’ve double dosed vaso6 before (600mg instead of 300mg) and noticed a big time difference in vascularity, fullness and duration of pump.
What’s the point ? Study’s were some on 300 mg.
Painful pumps during training are the best. I’ve only had a handful of prepackaged supplements that ever came close to what I make for myself at home, or what something like anavar can do.
A Gram of Vaso6... should rival that stuff for pump. Do we know any other ingredients or is this our only preview for now?
We live in a world where the mind set is more is ALWAYS better.
Got a chance to talk to Doug Miller, Pat, and Shane (From Stack3d) at the Merica Labz Booth this weekend.
Core and Merica Labz has a LOT in the works starting with their SNAX line featuring their beef jerky. They also have another 4 flavors of Merica energy they want out by Q3 (Cream Soda, Cherry Cola, and 2 more), and a massive 20g scoop size amino acid product they are finalizing.
Should be a great year for the company
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Yeah, been following them for a while and it was great to meet him. Had some beef sticks at the Arnold and just ordered 3 more boxes yesterday.Invalid Link Removed
24g Pro, 9g Cho, 3g Fat for package.
In case anyone cares, this was the best beef jerky I’ve ever had in my life, and only $5. Didn’t even realize it was Branch Warren’s til I got home from the Arnold, but he made a damn fine product. Will be ordering some more.
Non-BME I Am Suprem3 will be pump-heavy on its own. That said, half-dose No Mercy + half-dose IAS (either version) will stack beautifully, for anyone who wants a ton of pump but lower stim.I’m not really into stim-free pres but no mercy looks awesome. Just add some caffeine to it and BAM. I wonder if no mercy will be made to stack with the new I Am Suprem3 or if it’ll already be a pretty complete pre
No Mercy From OL
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Pricey is an understatement! I can get 2 big tubs of pes select shipped for 1 2lb of that at the same price. Unreal.MAN ISO Pancakes & Syurp Limited Edition flavor
will be pricey to buy direct
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Pancakes ‘N Syrup ISO-Protein include one tub for $54.99, two tubs for $99.98 with a free metal shaker, and six tubs for $39.99 each plus a free shaker, funnel, and shipping.
Pricey is an understatement! I can get 2 big tubs of pes select shipped for 1 2lb of that at the same price. Unreal.
No Mercy From OL
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You answered your own question.. Buy in bulk from Primaforce, or get it from other products for example Xtend Elite has 2g of Peak02, if I combine that with no Mercy i get 4g peak02 the studied dose.
If you don't like the ingredient or product then there is plenty more for all of us to use and consume.
To each their own, nobody is forcing you to buy it. Do not write something off without giving it a fair chance
I struggle to find how an accute consumption of peak02 is beneficial.
It's supposed to be taken everyday in order to attain saturation (same as BA and creatine).
So why put it in a pump product which by definition won't be taken every day ? Same goes for Peak X from Core, similar products aiming for pump/performance which is great, but unpractical.
Unless you have bulk peak02 to keep saturation on off days, but anyway... disappointing.
So finally what do we have that is really relevant ? Citrulline, and taurine, but they are inexpensive and can easily be taken by themselves. S7 looks like a meme ingredient, not to mention that scientists are investigating the potential harmful effect of having too much antioxydant, so that may be a concern for some users already getting a good diet/supplementation. And if that wasn't enough they also put tart cherry.
That only leaves us with vaso6 and kanna ease for the price tag.
Also disapointed with the design/marketing of the product. OL should have respected the brand design (warrior inspired). Going on the flashy and colourfull route, i hope they don't become like Sparta.
I love OL products but for once their innovation does not appeal to me. I'll stay the good old way with agmatine, glycerol, vinpocetine and citrulline.
because marketing.
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This design idea looks like it's inspired by GHOST in a way. Party fukboi raver workout product.
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I struggle to find how an accute consumption of peak02 is beneficial.
It's supposed to be taken everyday in order to attain saturation (same as BA and creatine).
So why put it in a pump product which by definition won't be taken every day ? Same goes for Peak X from Core, similar products aiming for pump/performance which is great, but unpractical.
Unless you have bulk peak02 to keep saturation on off days, but anyway... disappointing.
So finally what do we have that is really relevant ? Citrulline, and taurine, but they are inexpensive and can easily be taken by themselves. S7 looks like a meme ingredient, not to mention that scientists are investigating the potential harmful effect of having too much antioxydant, so that may be a concern for some users already getting a good diet/supplementation. And if that wasn't enough they also put tart cherry.
That only leaves us with vaso6 and kanna ease for the price tag.
Also disapointed with the design/marketing of the product. OL should have respected the brand design (warrior inspired). Going on the flashy and colourfull route, i hope they don't become like Sparta.
I love OL products but for once their innovation does not appeal to me. I'll stay the good old way with agmatine, glycerol, vinpocetine and citrulline.
I struggle to find how an accute consumption of peak02 is beneficial.
It's supposed to be taken everyday in order to attain saturation (same as BA and creatine).
So why put it in a pump product which by definition won't be taken every day ? Same goes for Peak X from Core, similar products aiming for pump/performance which is great, but unpractical.
Unless you have bulk peak02 to keep saturation on off days, but anyway... disappointing.
So finally what do we have that is really relevant ? Citrulline, and taurine, but they are inexpensive and can easily be taken by themselves. S7 looks like a meme ingredient, not to mention that scientists are investigating the potential harmful effect of having too much antioxydant, so that may be a concern for some users already getting a good diet/supplementation. And if that wasn't enough they also put tart cherry.
That only leaves us with vaso6 and kanna ease for the price tag.
Also disapointed with the design/marketing of the product. OL should have respected the brand design (warrior inspired). Going on the flashy and colourfull route, i hope they don't become like Sparta.
I love OL products but for once their innovation does not appeal to me. I'll stay the good old way with agmatine, glycerol, vinpocetine and citrulline.
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24g Pro, 9g Cho, 3g Fat for package.
In case anyone cares, this was the best beef jerky I’ve ever had in my life, and only $5. Didn’t even realize it was Branch Warren’s til I got home from the Arnold, but he made a damn fine product. Will be ordering some more.
Peak02 has positive data when dosed at 1g per day for 28 days, given it does appear to have a “build up” effect in the body - people generally train 4-6 times per week and over the course of 28 days you are in fact consuming an efficacious amount of the ingredient.
S7 will publish their data on the ingredient shortly until then, I am unable to make further comment - but once its out you will understand why it is effective , despite the low dose.
The price tag is not crazy to get all these trademarked ingredients, at effective dosages as well as big doses of citrulline and taurine in an amazing tasting drink.
But at the end of the day - each to their own.
Within a couple weeks, Controlled Labs will be dropping a brand new preworkout - White Warped!
White Flash, between the tremendous pumps and flavoring, was our finest pre to date - I’ve been told this will be even more righteous.
Profile unreleased yet, but look for opportunities and specifics in the Company Promo soon. I believe there will be 3 different flavors offered.
Please Cherry Limeade.
I’m really nervous this isn’t going to be better than White Flash.
But I should trust Synapsin
Please Cherry Limeade.
Cherry limeade pre from CL and TAKE. MY. MONEY.
Peak02 has positive data when dosed at 1g per day for 28 days, given it does appear to have a “build up” effect in the body - people generally train 4-6 times per week and over the course of 28 days you are in fact consuming an efficacious amount of the ingredient.
S7 will publish their data on the ingredient shortly until then, I am unable to make further comment - but once its out you will understand why it is effective , despite the low dose.
The price tag is not crazy to get all these trademarked ingredients, at effective dosages as well as big doses of citrulline and taurine in an amazing tasting drink.
But at the end of the day - each to their own.
Within a couple weeks, Controlled Labs will be dropping a brand new preworkout - White Warped!
White Flash, between the tremendous pumps and flavoring, was our finest pre to date - I’ve been told this will be even more righteous.
Profile unreleased yet, but look for opportunities and specifics in the Company Promo soon. I believe there will be 3 different flavors offered.
I struggle to find how an accute consumption of peak02 is beneficial.
It's supposed to be taken everyday in order to attain saturation (same as BA and creatine).
So why put it in a pump product which by definition won't be taken every day ? Same goes for Peak X from Core, similar products aiming for pump/performance which is great, but unpractical.
Unless you have bulk peak02 to keep saturation on off days, but anyway... disappointing.
So finally what do we have that is really relevant ? Citrulline, and taurine, but they are inexpensive and can easily be taken by themselves. S7 looks like a meme ingredient, not to mention that scientists are investigating the potential harmful effect of having too much antioxydant, so that may be a concern for some users already getting a good diet/supplementation. And if that wasn't enough they also put tart cherry.
That only leaves us with vaso6 and kanna ease for the price tag.
Also disapointed with the design/marketing of the product. OL should have respected the brand design (warrior inspired). Going on the flashy and colourfull route, i hope they don't become like Sparta.
I love OL products but for once their innovation does not appeal to me. I'll stay the good old way with agmatine, glycerol, vinpocetine and citrulline.
Agmatine in preworkouts in 2019 is like arginine in preworkouts in 2019. It also has no worldwide compliance. The ingredients you suggested in replacement of the expensive ingredients we used don't make much sense to further any points since glycerol costs next to nothing. Agmatine doesn't work..
Will it be removed from the next revamp of Reign/IAS? Also, do you buy any of the reported nootropic benefits? People are all over reddit using it to potentiate other compounds
Thanks for this post. This is very interesting to me and I look forward to diving into these effects.
Olympus Labs, I am curious what led to the conclusion Agmatine does not work. Is there some new research? Not arguing with you but seems like an odd statement considering it is in one of your current formulas. While I’ve never used it on its own to truly test, I have enjoyed many products that include it.
Not intending to speak for the company, but it lacks the human data that ingredients like Citrulline have.
Also, given Agmatine’s non-compliance in Europe (maybe just UK, but I think Europe as well), it potentially limits OL from an international distribution perspective
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