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The Future of Primordial Performance

I hope Primordial Performance have good legal aid.

Evidence shows that the suspense they have created has sent many forum members completely mad.
 
Its still 100x better than the one company I won't name having a beta round on a product with great results, and releasing the end product with a totally different ingredient set.

Really?
Having an imaginary product is better? Yeah, okay cool. Good luck with your daydream gainz bro..
 
Really?
Having an imaginary product is better? Yeah, okay cool. Good luck with your daydream gainz bro..

You wouldn't be in this thread if you didn't care at least a bit, so all I have to say is... chill bro :afro:
 
Its still 100x better than the one company I won't name having a beta round on a product with great results, and releasing the end product with a totally different ingredient set.

Really, because so far you haven't released anything... Everything in this thread is a joke, from missed dates to random pictures of women to excuse after excuse. What kind of "respectable company" has its own employees posting random pictures of half naked women in its own marketing thread to try and shift the attention elsewhere?

Yeah! PP for the win! :ugh2:

...and just FYI, I never had any idea who PP was before this thread came about and read from other forums about the "amazing androseries!!1!1"

Actions speak louder than words, and so far you have not delivered on anything you have claimed in this thread except excuse after excuse. In my eyes you are nothing more than "dat der cell tech that addz 20 lbs of solid muscle from their proprietary creatine formulaz."
 
You wouldn't be in this thread if you didn't care at least a bit, so all I have to say is... chill bro :afro:

Of course people care! Everyone in this thread wants this to be true, this new god-send of the designer steroids that promises things never before claimed.

But that's just it, everything is just a claim. They have missed dates, made excuses, and tried to shift attention away from the fact that this entire "andro-series" is nothing more than a joke.

Please prove me wrong and post some detailed information about the soon to be release andro-series , some logs, anything!?
 
Really, because so far you haven't released anything... Everything in this thread is a joke, from missed dates to random pictures of women to excuse after excuse. What kind of "respectable company" has its own employees posting random pictures of half naked women in its own marketing thread to try and shift the attention elsewhere?

Not that it matters in the context of this post but EasyEJL is nothing to do with Primordial Performance as far as I am aware.

Admittedly if I were a company rep I wouldn't feel it appropriate to post photos either but each to their own.

I am in for the intrigue of this product and although I am never likely to try it I must say that I would prefer to have a late product than have a product seemingly rushed out and risk lower quality/higher impurity/less effective/however you want to phrase it products.

Looking at the events of NTBM with the Monsterdrol debacle I think it is honourable that a company is prepared to deal with a lot of grief from unhappy customers to ensure their product is exactly how they described it. I am sure PP know that they have a lot of answering to do in terms of deadlines etc and still stick to their plan.

I have respect for a company who knows they are making some customers unhappy but will not sacrifice the quality of their own product to please those few. It is more honourable, in my opinion, than having a company rush something to market, knowing they are missing quality control steps to try and please everyone.

Everyone is welcome to their opinion. This will obviously annoy a lot of people. If it works out it will also please a lot of people. I am interested to see how it pans out either way. Best of luck to all.
 
Really, because so far you haven't released anything... Everything in this thread is a joke, from missed dates to random pictures of women to excuse after excuse. What kind of "respectable company" has its own employees posting random pictures of half naked women in its own marketing thread to try and shift the attention elsewhere?

Yeah! PP for the win! :ugh2:

...and just FYI, I never had any idea who PP was before this thread came about and read from other forums about the "amazing androseries!!1!1"

Actions speak louder than words, and so far you have not delivered on anything you have claimed in this thread except excuse after excuse. In my eyes you are nothing more than "dat der cell tech that addz 20 lbs of solid muscle from their proprietary creatine formulaz."

Of course people care! Everyone in this thread wants this to be true, this new god-send of the designer steroids that promises things never before claimed.

But that's just it, everything is just a claim. They have missed dates, made excuses, and tried to shift attention away from the fact that this entire "andro-series" is nothing more than a joke.

Please prove me wrong and post some detailed information about the soon to be release andro-series , some logs, anything!?

I am sorry that you have never heard of Primordial Performance until this particular thread. I'm sure if you conduct a search on this particular forum you will find that PP has been around as a favored brand, board sponsor, and innovative company for years.

This has been a season of delays and frustrations for us at Primordial Performance as well as for all of the customers anxiously awaiting the launch of this new product line. I guess you could say that we're taking the stance of quality almost to a fault. We do not want to deliver a bunk product. We want to ensure that what we are providing the community is exactly what we say it is. This has caused a bit of a bottleneck with a trickle down effect of further delays.

Because of this, something that we had originally scheduled for late 2010 has been pushed back to early 2011.

There currently are not any logs since we're still waiting on a supply of material that is tested to spec and passes. Once this happens, I can assure you that there will be multiple logs and perhaps a few logging opportunities available for the community.

I believe that what I have stated constitutes a reason for the current state of things rather than an excuse to justify an error. An error would be in delivering a product that did not stand up to the strict quality standards we try to set for ourselves as a company. We only want to deliver the best to you and everyone that has an interest in Primordial. This belief in quality is why we use branded forms of Creatine (Creapure®,) BCAAs (AjiPure®,) Phosphatidylserine (SerinAde®,) and a complete Vitamin E (Tocomin®,) just to name a few. Registered products typically ensure a greater degree in quality. More importantly they show the desire of a company to instill trust in its customers by using sometimes higher cost, name brand ingredients.

When innovation is put together with our stringent quest for the highest quality this type of situation we have here is bound to occur. Not everyone has our same desire to provide the best. I am sorry that it has been a point of contention for you toward us. My hope is that when these new materials pass inspection, when these write-ups come out, and when we are able to get some logs up and running that you will appreciate the time, effort, and care that we've put forth to deliver to you the best possible products in the supplement industry.

It's so tense in here, I should post some scantily clad woman bent over a car/bench/etc. to ease the tension. :) I'm going back to my no-drama thread.

-Always end with humor,
Steve
 
Really, because so far you haven't released anything... Everything in this thread is a joke, from missed dates to random pictures of women to excuse after excuse. What kind of "respectable company" has its own employees posting random pictures of half naked women in its own marketing thread to try and shift the attention elsewhere?

Yeah! PP for the win! :ugh2:

...and just FYI, I never had any idea who PP was before this thread came about and read from other forums about the "amazing androseries!!1!1"

Actions speak louder than words, and so far you have not delivered on anything you have claimed in this thread except excuse after excuse. In my eyes you are nothing more than "dat der cell tech that addz 20 lbs of solid muscle from their proprietary creatine formulaz."


A quick view of your post history clearly outlines your agenda. Not to mention you also go around to multiple other boards doing the same exact thing. Time to get a new hobby... :rolleyes:

I've already stated numerous times that when the product QC results test out good, we'll release the write-up information and have a timeline for product release. It's amazing when a company tries to do the right thing all the hate that ensues. We're committed to providing the best and safest products available.

You don't agree? That's just TOO bad. We're not deviating from it.

Thank you for your continued interest and bumping the thread, though! :friday:



-John
 
Really, because so far you haven't released anything... Everything in this thread is a joke, from missed dates to random pictures of women to excuse after excuse. What kind of "respectable company" has its own employees posting random pictures of half naked women in its own marketing thread to try and shift the attention elsewhere?

Yeah! PP for the win! :ugh2:

...and just FYI, I never had any idea who PP was before this thread came about and read from other forums about the "amazing androseries!!1!1"

Actions speak louder than words, and so far you have not delivered on anything you have claimed in this thread except excuse after excuse. In my eyes you are nothing more than "dat der cell tech that addz 20 lbs of solid muscle from their proprietary creatine formulaz."

Troll. :madfawk::bryce:
 
Really, because so far you haven't released anything... Everything in this thread is a joke, from missed dates to random pictures of women to excuse after excuse. What kind of "respectable company" has its own employees posting random pictures of half naked women in its own marketing thread to try and shift the attention elsewhere?

Yeah! PP for the win! :ugh2:

...and just FYI, I never had any idea who PP was before this thread came about and read from other forums about the "amazing androseries!!1!1"

Actions speak louder than words, and so far you have not delivered on anything you have claimed in this thread except excuse after excuse. In my eyes you are nothing more than "dat der cell tech that addz 20 lbs of solid muscle from their proprietary creatine formulaz."

:gay: :tool:
 
Actions speak louder than words, and so far you have not delivered on anything you have claimed in this thread except excuse after excuse. In my eyes you are nothing more than "dat der cell tech that addz 20 lbs of solid muscle from their proprietary creatine formulaz."

So wait, you came to a forum for actions and NOT words? Bro, it's all words. Some pics, a few less videos... but damn you came to the wrong place. lol
 
Really, because so far you haven't released anything... Everything in this thread is a joke, from missed dates to random pictures of women to excuse after excuse. What kind of "respectable company" has its own employees posting random pictures of half naked women in its own marketing thread to try and shift the attention elsewhere?

Yeah! PP for the win! :ugh2:

...and just FYI, I never had any idea who PP was before this thread came about and read from other forums about the "amazing androseries!!1!1"

Actions speak louder than words, and so far you have not delivered on anything you have claimed in this thread except excuse after excuse. In my eyes you are nothing more than "dat der cell tech that addz 20 lbs of solid muscle from their proprietary creatine formulaz."


Yes, actions do speak louder than words!!:sigh1:
 
I have respect for a company who knows they are making some customers unhappy but will not sacrifice the quality of their own product to please those few. It is more honourable, in my opinion, than having a company rush something to market, knowing they are missing quality control steps to try and please everyone.

Thank you for your support and patience. It has been an ordeal to be sure, but all ordeals come to an end, and there is a glorious finish. Believe me, whenever any of the Primordial team has any information to be shared, it will be shared.

~Rosie~
 
A quick view of your post history clearly outlines your agenda. Not to mention you also go around to multiple other boards doing the same exact thing. Time to get a new hobby... :rolleyes:

I've already stated numerous times that when the product QC results test out good, we'll release the write-up information and have a timeline for product release. It's amazing when a company tries to do the right thing all the hate that ensues. We're committed to providing the best and safest products available.

You don't agree? That's just TOO bad. We're not deviating from it.

Thank you for your continued interest and bumping the thread, though! :friday:



-John

Not to be a **** but why release a thread stating that THE ANDROSERIES IS COMING! When you didn't have info on the QC or anything else. For all you know the tests can keep coming back negatively. Then you either A. Cancel the series or B. Release a bad product.

This was no doubt a hype ploy. The thread was started on the first of OCT? Not to mention the pre sale was suppose to be (at first) before X mas and then 3 days after Xmas. Then in th New Year.

Why didn't you wait to create such a thread? It truly is 55 pages of nonsense with the exception of some "numbers" that may or not may be correct because lets face it... You have yet to actually test a product with QC results you were looking for.

/End Rant

Sorry if I hurt anyones feelings I am just stating how I feel. I loved PP but this thread is really upsetting me. :(
 
Back to the real meaning of this thread....
 

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...This was no doubt a hype ploy...

Again, there were unforeseen circumstances which led to this delay. This thread was started in October because the AndroSeries was expected to be released sometime in December...

Regardless, I can certainly empathize with you and understand your frustrations. I think everyone, including Primordial Performance, is a bit annoyed by these setbacks; however, these happenstances should help ensure maximum product efficacy and quality.

In my opinion, the PP representatives are doing an excellent job of keeping the consumer up-to-date. I feel assured that as soon as any tidbit of information is released, we (the AM community) will be amongst the first to know.
 
In my opinion, the PP representatives are doing an excellent job of keeping the consumer up-to-date. I feel assured that as soon as any tidbit of information is released, we (the AM community) will be amongst the first to know.

Of course, because letting AM know is potential money in their pocket. I have no doubt that PP will announce the release or presale of this line the second they can. That was not the point of my post. Please REREAD my post.

I am frustrated with PP for creating a thread in OCT. The only things you can sift through the 55 pages of nonsense is: Green Pill, Jamie is hot, and some numbers that maybe complete BS because QC testing didn't comeback as expected.

Why not wait to create such a thread.
 
Of course, because letting AM know is potential money in their pocket. I have no doubt that PP will announce the release or presale of this line the second they can. That was not the point of my post. Please REREAD my post.

I am frustrated with PP for creating a thread in OCT. The only things you can sift through the 55 pages of nonsense is: Green Pill, Jamie is hot, and some numbers that maybe complete BS because QC testing didn't comeback as expected.

Why not wait to create such a thread.

We're just messing around in the thread while we wait. You hate fun?:spank:
 
Not to be a **** but why release a thread stating that THE ANDROSERIES IS COMING! When you didn't have info on the QC or anything else. For all you know the tests can keep coming back negatively. Then you either A. Cancel the series or B. Release a bad product.

This was no doubt a hype ploy. The thread was started on the first of OCT? Not to mention the pre sale was suppose to be (at first) before X mas and then 3 days after Xmas. Then in th New Year.

Why didn't you wait to create such a thread? It truly is 55 pages of nonsense with the exception of some "numbers" that may or not may be correct because lets face it... You have yet to actually test a product with QC results you were looking for.

/End Rant

Sorry if I hurt anyones feelings I am just stating how I feel. I loved PP but this thread is really upsetting me. :(


Uhm....because it IS coming?! Why wait to create a thread after it has came stating it's coming? If you follow PP AT ALL, then you'd know that the topic was originally started because of the 'uproar'(for lack of a better word) when they announced they were discontinuing the current line of PHs. Everyone thought they were going out of business. So they had a delay and didnt put out a ****ty product that didnt meet specs. Are you really that pissed about that? Is your life really that involved in this thread that it's upsetting you that much? Go outside! Go to the gym! Read something else!!

And as far as hype goes, why wouldn't they try to hype their upcoming line?! They're running a business for ****'s sake! Shold they just release it and be like "Oh, by the way.....we have these new things you guys should try. Maybe. you know....if you wanna...."

Tell you what, if it will help you out, let's do this. Don't come back to the thread, seeing as how you're getting pissed off having to sort through all the bull****. I will personally start a new thread alerting you to the fact that the Androseries has in fact arrived and you can now go buy it. You're welcome.
 
Of course, because letting AM know is potential money in their pocket. I have no doubt that PP will announce the release or presale of this line the second they can. That was not the point of my post. Please REREAD my post.

I am frustrated with PP for creating a thread in OCT. The only things you can sift through the 55 pages of nonsense is: Green Pill, Jamie is hot, and some numbers that maybe complete BS because QC testing didn't comeback as expected.

Why not wait to create such a thread.

Hmm... If PP's sole concern was making a quick buck, why didn't they just ignore previous QC results and release the AndroSeries imprudently?

You don't seem to understand that these setbacks were completely unexpected. Whether this thread was created in October '10 or January '11, the AndroSeries IS still coming.

Furthermore, posting random pictures of scantily clad women is simply an entertaining way of passing time before the next announcement is made.
 
Of course, because letting AM know is potential money in their pocket. I have no doubt that PP will announce the release or presale of this line the second they can. That was not the point of my post. Please REREAD my post.

I am frustrated with PP for creating a thread in OCT. The only things you can sift through the 55 pages of nonsense is: Green Pill, Jamie is hot, and some numbers that maybe complete BS because QC testing didn't comeback as expected.

Why not wait to create such a thread.

I believe how companies have used "hype" in the past has now tainted any and all new releases. We have stated before that we had an idea, "AndroSeries," and we wanted to make it happen. To do this we had to discontinue making our prohormone line, and sale what we had in stock to fund the AndroSeries project. So we decided to announce to AM, and other forums exactly what we had planned and what we were doing. This to me showed a lot of transparency, we are not intending to create hype. AM members have been privy to a side of the business that rarely is seen. We have shared our research that showed very promising and exciting things, as well as unfortunate pitfalls. We have hidden nothing, you have witnessed it all. We have also invested an extremely large amount of money in this project, so to say that we also are not disappointed with recent set backs couldn't be further from the truth. Nothing has changed from the last update, in which we informed everyone that we are waiting on QC results, and that it will take some time longer. Since then we have been waiting just like you guys.
 
I believe how companies have used "hype" in the past has now tainted any and all new releases. We have stated before that we had an idea, "AndroSeries," and we wanted to make it happen. To do this we had to discontinue making our prohormone line, and sale what we had in stock to fund the AndroSeries project. So we decided to announce to AM, and other forums exactly what we had planned and what we were doing. This to me showed a lot of transparency, we are not intending to create hype. AM members have been privy to a side of the business that rarely is seen. We have shared our research that showed very promising and exciting things, as well as unfortunate pitfalls. We have hidden nothing, you have witnessed it all. We have also invested an extremely large amount of money in this project, so to say that we also are not disappointed with recent set backs couldn't be further from the truth. Nothing has changed from the last update, in which we informed everyone that we are waiting on QC results, and that it will take some time longer. Since then we have been waiting just like you guys.

You are always very objective when looking at things, extremely professional.
 
A quick view of your post history clearly outlines your agenda. Not to mention you also go around to multiple other boards doing the same exact thing. Time to get a new hobby... :rolleyes:

I've already stated numerous times that when the product QC results test out good, we'll release the write-up information and have a timeline for product release. It's amazing when a company tries to do the right thing all the hate that ensues. We're committed to providing the best and safest products available.

You don't agree? That's just TOO bad. We're not deviating from it.

Thank you for your continued interest and bumping the thread, though! :friday:



-John

Didn't this just happen...clearly an agenda on his part.
 
Why didn't you guys just continue making PH's to fund the AndroSeries? Now you have stopped making them and your using the revenue from your left over inventory. Soo... What happens if all that extra revenue turns out to not be enough or it gets used up to quickly? Obviously you didn't know these setbacks were coming and that's not your fault. I'm just looking at it from a business point of view. Your PH line was so successful that it could have continued to fund the AndroSeries. Then you could quit making them once the new line was ready.

Either way i'm set because i'm just buying up PP's old stuff .
 
Why didn't you guys just continue making PH's to fund the AndroSeries? Now you have stopped making them and your using the revenue from your left over inventory. Soo... What happens if all that extra revenue turns out to not be enough or it gets used up to quickly? Obviously you didn't know these setbacks were coming and that's not your fault. I'm just looking at it from a business point of view. Your PH line was so successful that it could have continued to fund the AndroSeries. Then you could quit making them once the new line was ready.

Either way i'm set because i'm just buying up PP's old stuff .

Trust me when I say that EVERYthing was and has been taken into consideration for the AndroSeries Project.

~Rosie~
 
Do we really need to do this once a week?

Twistid - I am not going into it again with you. Been there, done that.

Weakest Link - Information was released because at the time of our PH sale the outcry was that we were some how plotting against our consumers and a million conspiracy theories appeared about how we were taking the money and running, etc... It was pathetic. So we released this to show you what we have in R&D. Damned if you do Damned if you dont. If we didnt release it, we would have been attacked, we did release now we are being attacked. Same with the androseries. We could release the untested raws, but recent events show us what happens in that case, instead we will wait for proper product. Damned if you do damned if you dont. If we released it, and it tested incorrectly, we would have been attacked. We didn't release it and now we are being attacked.

Man I need another cup of coffee when this is the first issue on a Saturday, when it has been done again and again and again.
 
Man I need another cup of coffee when this is the first issue on a Saturday, when it has been done again and again and again.

LOL....it's a 55 page thread and 52+ pages are trolls, whiners, flamers, and conspiracy theorists. They should do what I am about to do, unsubscribe from the thread.

This is not a shot at PP, but I am just tired of getting new post notices every day that actually turn out to be moron alerts. I'll just patiently watch the PP home page and wait for the Andro Series and probably run it in the summer.

Good luck PP reps. I hope these negative people get a new hobby and leave you alone. :beerchug:
 
Why didn't you guys just continue making PH's to fund the AndroSeries? Now you have stopped making them and your using the revenue from your left over inventory. Soo... What happens if all that extra revenue turns out to not be enough or it gets used up to quickly? Obviously you didn't know these setbacks were coming and that's not your fault. I'm just looking at it from a business point of view. Your PH line was so successful that it could have continued to fund the AndroSeries. Then you could quit making them once the new line was ready.

Either way i'm set because i'm just buying up PP's old stuff .

I will add with what Rosie said we are getting away from non DSHEA compliant products, we do not want the FDA on our back. The supplement industry is going to have to start complying in order to survive.
 
LOL....it's a 55 page thread and 52+ pages are trolls, whiners, flamers, and conspiracy theorists. They should do what I am about to do, unsubscribe from the thread.

This is not a shot at PP, but I am just tired of getting new post notices every day that actually turn out to be moron alerts. I'll just patiently watch the PP home page and wait for the Andro Series and probably run it in the summer.

Good luck PP reps. I hope these negative people get a new hobby and leave you alone. :beerchug:

That is fine, bud. When there is more information and the release is on the horizon, believe me, you WILL know about it, and you can come back and join in again (or just observe from a distance) again then if you like :

~Rosie~
 
I love to come in this thread... Go PP get keep your grind going.for all the crazy SOB just chill PP is hard @ work!!

Purpose, proper prior planning, passion, patience, persistence and perseverance prevent piss poor performance.
 
I was planning on taking andromass for the new year, but now I am not sure if I will take it now, or take something else for now and take the andromass later. But this has given me some time to really get my diet and training in order, so for me the delay has been a positive.
 
I was planning on taking andromass for the new year, but now I am not sure if I will take it now, or take something else for now and take the andromass later. But this has given me some time to really get my diet and training in order, so for me the delay has been a positive.

Better to have your NUTRITION AND TRAINING in order before anything else, anyways - those two factors are the BASE of EVERYthing!
 
Will I turn into Jax if I take the Androseries?

Do you have the genetics, years of training experience, eat enough to feed an army, and have the patience to keep plugging away at it for many more years to come? :mischievous:
 
Do you have the genetics, years of training experience, eat enough to feed an army, and have the patience to keep plugging away at it for many more years to come? :mischievous:

No, no, no, NO!

Will I turn into Jax if I take the Androseries?

Do you have metal arms? If yes, then maybe.

If no, then no.

...I know I'm not the only person that plays Mortal Kombat.

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