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The Future of Primordial Performance

Man this thread blew up since I had a chance to last view it, back on page 2 or 3.

Congrats to Chocolate Milk for landing the 190 spot, much to the dismay of Urbanski. I really enjoyed following your last big log, so I am sure you can do a new product justice.

To everyone else who is excited about this, I gotta say I am with you. Primordial Performance attracted me as a company for numerous reasons, from the customer service to the no-bull**** attitude. Most importantly, they attracted me with the dedication to bringing scientifically backed products to the market. Since joining them, I have learned that behind the scenes, innovation is the number one goal. I couldn't rep for any other company with the passion I rep for Primordial right now. Can't wait to see more information on this in November.

As for the internet supplement police :cop:, Its funny to see so many assumptions on so little information.
 
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Will there be any innovations outside "bodybuilding stuff" and something in terms of the "general health" category?
 
Dear Eric

Please pioneer SARMs that would be beneficial to bodybuilders and legal to buy and make them affordable. Thanks!

-TT
 
Trauma1 said:
No, we never stated what the new line up would be. Some people just assumed what would be happening...




-John
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Well isnt your DHEA new prouducts still consdiered hormonal no matter what they are esterfied in?

noot said:
What's the point of moving away from hormonal? Don't you just become like every other product on the market?
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Yup but DHEA which looks lilke is all they are coming out with new kinds of DHEA in the liqua vade.

TexasTitan said:
Dear Eric

Please pioneer SARMs that would be beneficial to bodybuilders and legal to buy and make them affordable. Thanks!

-TT
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Now that would be sick if someone could.
 
I slept through it! Gratz to the winner. I'll probably be picking some up regardless. Thoroughly impressed with PP!
 
Mitbar, I think you are confused. John (Trauma1) was saying we never said we were moving away from hormones, that is just the conclusion some people jumped to. These products are hormonal, and we never implied otherwise with their introduction.
 
mitbar said:
Well isnt your DHEA new prouducts still consdiered hormonal no matter what they are esterfied in?
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Hey Mitch,

Good to see you over here. Yes, that's what I meant by my statement above. We never specifically stated what direction we were going in. There were some that had assumed it wouldn't be anything hormonal-related in nature at all.



-John
 
Any idea how much better the andromass will be on ldl/hdl levels compared to superdrone?

There was talk about a new recover stack is that still in the works?
 
okay these products look good but my question is are these prohormones ???? because i thought you was moving away from them now ???

If these new products are so effective even this green pill is it going to require a proper PCT ie SERM .....

I find it hard to obtain a serm so was looking forward to new products from you guys which wouldent need much of a PCT or products that could warrant an OTC pct.
 
noot said:
What's the point of moving away from hormonal? Don't you just become like every other product on the market?
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Definitely NOT! Primordial stands out from other companies, not just because of our products (John mentions a few of them below)!


HereToStudy said:
Man this thread blew up since I had a chance to last view it, back on page 2 or 3.

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To everyone else who is excited about this, I gotta say I am with you. Primordial Performance attracted me as a company for numerous reasons, from the customer service to the no-bull**** attitude. Most importantly, they attracted me with the dedication to bringing scientifically backed products to the market. Since joining them, I have learned that behind the scenes, innovation is the number one goal. I couldn't rep for any other company with the passion I rep for Primordial right now. Can't wait to see more information on this in November.

As for the internet supplement police :cop:, Its funny to see so many assumptions on so little information.
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HereToStudy said:
Mitbar, I think you are confused. John (Trauma1) was saying we never said we were moving away from hormones, that is just the conclusion some people jumped to. These products are hormonal, and we never implied otherwise with their introduction.
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Trauma1 said:
...We never specifically stated what direction we were going in. There were some that had assumed it wouldn't be anything hormonal-related in nature at all.
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Gym4Life said:
okay these products look good but my question is are these prohormones ???? because i thought you was moving away from them now ??
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JoHNnyNuTZ said:
These commentsmake me LULZ!!!
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^^^Me, too Johnny, me too. Like you said earlier, "I'm just smiling and not making any assumptions with these guys." As Sean likes to say," Assumption is the mother of all fcuk ups." NEVER assume anything guys, because more often than not, your assumption is WRONG.

On that note, exciting new times ahead for certain. Jump on the swiftly moving train with Primordial and let us give you the ride of your life! :party:

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
 
Gym4Life said:
okay these products look good but my question is are these prohormones ???? because i thought you was moving away from them now ???

If these new products are so effective even this green pill is it going to require a proper PCT ie SERM .....

I find it hard to obtain a serm so was looking forward to new products from you guys which wouldent need much of a PCT or products that could warrant an OTC pct.
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1. yes
2. yes
3. I'm sure not all of their revamped products will be hormonal based, just have to wait and see.
 
Customers purchase products that work. I doubt that any thing new offered by PP has not been used by a human, and produced the desired results. True or false?
 
Really, all i can do is smile. :lol:

The same comments OVER and OVER and OVER is priceless :lol:
 
3clipseGT said:
Really, all i can do is smile. :lol:

The same comments OVER and OVER and OVER is priceless :lol:
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Well I mean it's not like there's a lot to talk about in this thread besides assumptions considering the very little info we've been given..

Wait a tic..I still haven't done this lol:
Congrats Chocolate and I think urbanski should get the second logging attempt because of his epicness.
 
Holy crap this thread blew up... interested in Andro lean and the mass builder as well. Subbed for more details in 30 days!
 
BrYmAsTeR17 said:
Well I mean it's not like there's a lot to talk about in this thread besides assumptions considering the very little info we've been given..

Wait a tic..I still haven't done this lol:
Congrats Chocolate and I think urbanski should get the second logging attempt because of his epicness.
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I just find it funny. Or the same posts about us not selling hormonals anymore, its like if you look one post up ull see another person asked, and had the question answered.

But yes, congrats CM!
 
Hmm, so you sob's got me to buy all your old hormones for cheap, just to tease me with new hormones, its like I have sops, same old ***** syndrome, but for hormonal products. Interested to see what you guys have in store for logging opportunities, I volunteer myself to be a ginny pig for the the ultra stack, that is all of them put together at double the recommended dose.
 
Trauma1 said:
No, we never stated what the new line up would be. Some people just assumed what would be happening...
-John
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Indeed, as from the opening post on the last thread...

"Yes, you read that correctly. Primordial Performance has officially discontinued ALL current pro-hormone products."

Current being the key word.
 
obviously people are going to be skeptical about these products...I am sure PP will offer logging opportunities. Its a simple as this. If they don't work they won't sell. I have used quite a bit of PP's products and I have been disapointed with none of them. Goodluck guys hope this Andro series is awesome!
 
SynergyIre said:
Indeed, as from the opening post on the last thread...

"Yes, you read that correctly. Primordial Performance has officially discontinued ALL current pro-hormone products."

Current being the key word.
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yea, thats after they state:

"Breaking News: PP has discontinued ALL pro-hormones! <-kind of implies something
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From the desk of Eric Potratz, Primordial Founder and President,

Primordial Performance has discontinued all pro-hormones. (<--again, kind of implies something, but best you read the fine print)This includes the following products –

Dermacrine Topical (excellent recomp agent)
Dermacrine Liqua-Vade (excellent oral recomp agent)
1-T Topical (liver safe mass builder)
1-T Liqua-Vade (liver safe oral mass builder)
Formestane Liqua-Vade (our strongest anti-estrogen)
Turinabol Liqua-Vade (our strongest mass builder)
AndroHard Liqua-Vade (prevents gyno and hardens muscles)
... and ALL stacks of the above products "
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then it switches it up with "key" wording, saying
"Yes, you read that correctly. Primordial Performance has officially discontinued ALL current pro-hormone products." <--in hindsight now we see the key word, current, clever marketing


then has:

"Why are we discontinuing our pro-hormones?

This discontinuation sale will allow us to raise extra funds for future innovation. The revenue generated from this sale will be directly invested into new products and technologies for the future.
Rest assured that these products are the same high quality products they always have been. We guarantee the best price and 100% SATISFACTION on all purchases. "

they never said what the future product & technologies would be.

so like basically, just tricky wording, confusin people who didn't read carefully enough, or who read it too quickly.
 
jbryand101b said:
yea, thats after they state:

"Breaking News: PP has discontinued ALL pro-hormones! <-kind of implies something
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From the desk of Eric Potratz, Primordial Founder and President,

Primordial Performance has discontinued all pro-hormones. (<--again, kind of implies something, but best you read the fine print)This includes the following products –

Dermacrine Topical (excellent recomp agent)
Dermacrine Liqua-Vade (excellent oral recomp agent)
1-T Topical (liver safe mass builder)
1-T Liqua-Vade (liver safe oral mass builder)
Formestane Liqua-Vade (our strongest anti-estrogen)
Turinabol Liqua-Vade (our strongest mass builder)
AndroHard Liqua-Vade (prevents gyno and hardens muscles)
... and ALL stacks of the above products "
------------

then it switches it up with "key" wording, saying
"Yes, you read that correctly. Primordial Performance has officially discontinued ALL current pro-hormone products." <--in hindsight now we see the key word, current, clever marketing


then has:

"Why are we discontinuing our pro-hormones?

This discontinuation sale will allow us to raise extra funds for future innovation. The revenue generated from this sale will be directly invested into new products and technologies for the future.
Rest assured that these products are the same high quality products they always have been. We guarantee the best price and 100% SATISFACTION on all purchases. "

they never said what the future product & technologies would be.

so like basically, just tricky wording, confusin people who didn't read carefully enough, or who read it too quickly.
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who cares? I guess they just ASSUMED everyone would read the whole thing.....
 
jbryand101b said:
yea, thats after they state:

"Breaking News: PP has discontinued ALL pro-hormones! <-kind of implies something
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From the desk of Eric Potratz, Primordial Founder and President,

Primordial Performance has discontinued all pro-hormones. (<--again, kind of implies something, but best you read the fine print)This includes the following products –

Dermacrine Topical (excellent recomp agent)
Dermacrine Liqua-Vade (excellent oral recomp agent)
1-T Topical (liver safe mass builder)
1-T Liqua-Vade (liver safe oral mass builder)
Formestane Liqua-Vade (our strongest anti-estrogen)
Turinabol Liqua-Vade (our strongest mass builder)
AndroHard Liqua-Vade (prevents gyno and hardens muscles)
... and ALL stacks of the above products "
------------

then it switches it up with "key" wording, saying
"Yes, you read that correctly. Primordial Performance has officially discontinued ALL current pro-hormone products." <--in hindsight now we see the key word, current, clever marketing


then has:

"Why are we discontinuing our pro-hormones?

This discontinuation sale will allow us to raise extra funds for future innovation. The revenue generated from this sale will be directly invested into new products and technologies for the future.
Rest assured that these products are the same high quality products they always have been. We guarantee the best price and 100% SATISFACTION on all purchases. "

they never said what the future product & technologies would be.

so like basically, just tricky wording, confusin people who didn't read carefully enough, or who read it too quickly.
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shouldnt there be some kind of rules for a rep coming into another companies co/pro thread and trying to ruin it?
 
jbryand101b said:
Primordial Performance has discontinued all pro-hormones. (<--again, kind of implies something, but best you read the fine print)

...

then it switches it up with "key" wording, saying
"Yes, you read that correctly. Primordial Performance has officially discontinued ALL current pro-hormone products." <--in hindsight now we see the key word, current, clever marketing

...

they never said what the future product & technologies would be.

so like basically, just tricky wording, confusin people who didn't read carefully enough, or who read it too quickly.
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You seem to be the only person that is upset regarding this announcement.

Most people are thrilled that Primordial is staying in the PH game. I for one am looking forward to November 1st when more information is made available.
 
jbryand101b said:
yea, thats after they state:

"Breaking News: PP has discontinued ALL pro-hormones! <-kind of implies something
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From the desk of Eric Potratz, Primordial Founder and President,

Primordial Performance has discontinued all pro-hormones. (<--again, kind of implies something, but best you read the fine print)This includes the following products –

Dermacrine Topical (excellent recomp agent)
Dermacrine Liqua-Vade (excellent oral recomp agent)
1-T Topical (liver safe mass builder)
1-T Liqua-Vade (liver safe oral mass builder)
Formestane Liqua-Vade (our strongest anti-estrogen)
Turinabol Liqua-Vade (our strongest mass builder)
AndroHard Liqua-Vade (prevents gyno and hardens muscles)
... and ALL stacks of the above products "
------------

then it switches it up with "key" wording, saying
"Yes, you read that correctly. Primordial Performance has officially discontinued ALL current pro-hormone products." <--in hindsight now we see the key word, current, clever marketing


then has:

"Why are we discontinuing our pro-hormones?

This discontinuation sale will allow us to raise extra funds for future innovation. The revenue generated from this sale will be directly invested into new products and technologies for the future.
Rest assured that these products are the same high quality products they always have been. We guarantee the best price and 100% SATISFACTION on all purchases. "

they never said what the future product & technologies would be.

so like basically, just tricky wording, confusin people who didn't read carefully enough, or who read it too quickly.
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:soapbox:
 
Jbry, if you are going to continually criticize every part of this thread, be a man and throw your damn company affiliation in your signature, so at least members see where this is coming from. If it continues, ill email Nathan about this, since he stated this bull**** would not happen.
 
jbryand101b said:
john, really, I dont have to have the ntbm rep in my signature. everyone already knows I am a rep for them.

edit* im gonna play nice and just leave it at, we'll see.

I hope to try the product soon john.
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jbryand101b said:
my affiliation with need to build muscle has nothing to do with my opinion of another companies product.

I get paid to be a rep. I also buy my own supplements. I have a tub of anadraulic state gt, vpx no synthesize, vitamin shoppe whey tech, vpx red line, primordial performance dream tea, ultimate nutrtion muscle juice.

I am also a consumer, and speak honestly about a product. if it sucks, I dont buy it, if I like it, i do.

I was commenting in this thread as a consumer, and on my opinion on the product. had nothing to do with need to build muscle. we dont even sell pro hormones.
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WIULifter said:
shouldnt there be some kind of rules for a rep coming into another companies co/pro thread and trying to ruin it?
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It's called a neg train. It's fun for everyone...well except one.
 
I think everyone was under the impression that Primordial Performance was done with hormonals. Seeing this thread makes me glad I didnt go into a frenzy like others to stock up insane amounts of hormonals. Now I have money to buy the new stuff depending on how the feedback is.
 
HereToStudy said:
Jbry, if you are going to continually criticize every part of this thread, be a man and throw your damn company affiliation in your signature, so at least members see where this is coming from. If it continues, ill email Nathan about this, since he stated this bull**** would not happen.
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Again, I reiterate, isn't it AM policy for all rep affiliates to have the sponsorship posted in their sigs. I have no dog in this fight, but it's really bad form coming from the mr.supp/ntbm camp when a rep behaves like this.
Tomahawk88 said:
I think everyone was under the impression that Primordial Performance was done with hormonals. Seeing this thread makes me glad I didnt go into a frenzy like others to stock up insane amounts of hormonals. Now I have money to buy the new stuff depending on how the feedback is.
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40% off is still 40% off. your not going to hear me complain about that. :)
 
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