^ great post FP as always.
Good to see you by the way.
Good to see you by the way.
OMG 288mg is very high dosethis is correct. the pills had 288mg of DMAA each, and people took 2.
Great info!A few reasons, some with lots of supporting evidence, others from just my personal observations & intuition.
The obvious and widely-supported reason they ban what works is because large pharma corporations can't make money on it when its on the open market and as you'd expect, they lobby congress and pay the FDA/DEA (probably through shell companies & kick-backs). Examples?
That Red Yeast Rice extract was a good one that turns out had the active ingredient lovastatin and monocolin K found naturally in the supp - compounds that were marketed as a drug Mevacor. Mevacor cried to the feds that such a natural product existed as a $10 supplement rather than the absurd amount they charged as a result of cornering the market through what we call "prescriptions". So now, those supplement companies that sell RYR are supposed to remove the active ingredients before distribution of the product. Not all of them do, of course, but the legal noise certainly made everyone think it was being adequately regulated.
Another one in the works is Kratom. About a month or so after Smith Kline finished up with a super-concentrated extract of the active alkaloids in Kratom, the DEA goes to squealing about its dangers.... Right....
Then they make up a bunch of false claims to validate their position to ban it and so it goes.
As for synthetic masculine sex hormones - isn't it obvious why the government (and media) wants to rid these from our access? Given the war on manhood (and boyhood) and given that test and its derivatives cause positive benefits to our dopamine/serotonin output which leads to and encourages (in many) critical thinking, spatial thinking, memory function, reduction in depression & anxiety, & an increase in confidence.
Tell me, do you think the elite class wants the average joe to:
1) become stronger
2) become smarter
3) become more visually appealing
???? That's why such great things are "off limits" to society, lol, because over time, steroids address each of the things that the elite believe separates them from the rest. Smart, good-looking & influential (or powerful). Think about it.
Yeah, same here!I stocked up just in case, however my hopes are that since this whole issue was brought up from a ridiculous cause, it will hopefully be very quickly resolved
Not really sure what you are getting at with this statement "It's known that it is not good", care to site some sources?Since this was posted so long ago... It's known that it is not good and I woudn't take it long term, whatsoever
It will likely be back before too long. They have been reformulating all of their prior DMAA fat burners with DMHA. Quite a few are already out, so the rest should not be too far behind.I'm about halfway through my last bottle of Lipodrene Elite and REALLY said it's no longer offered. I love how I feel when taking that. It's a clean and subtle energy, nothing that makes me wired (I hate feeling wired).
What are some good options to replace LE with?
I like dmha, so this is a good thing, imo!!!It will likely be back before too long. They have been reformulating all of their prior DMAA fat burners with DMHA. Quite a few are already out, so the rest should not be too far behind.
In the meantime, it’s unfortunate that Myokem Pyroxamine is not currently available, as I know that you don’t like stim bombs.I'm about halfway through my last bottle of Lipodrene Elite and REALLY said it's no longer offered. I love how I feel when taking that. It's a clean and subtle energy, nothing that makes me wired (I hate feeling wired).
What are some good options to replace LE with?
Completely agree..I like dmha, so this is a good thing, imo!!!
Yeah, sureI like dmha, so this is a good thing, imo!!!
Hydroxy Elite with DMHA is going over EXTREMELY well with fans right now, definitely give it a goPeople seem to be getting good effects from some of the newer formulas of products that are using DMHA in place of traditional DMAA... might have to check some of the new stuff out myself as it has me pretty curious
thats what i've been hearing! any good preworkout formulas using DMHA that youve come across so far?Hydroxy Elite with DMHA is going over EXTREMELY well with fans right now, definitely give it a go
Hydroxy Elite with DMHA is going over EXTREMELY well with fans right now, definitely give it a go
None off the top of my head, but if/when they pop up I will post some in here!thats what i've been hearing! any good preworkout formulas using DMHA that youve come across so far?
I'm not seeing Hydroxy Elite with DMHA on the Hi-Tech site. Just Hydroxy Elite. And when I look at the ingredients, I don't see DMHA.
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2-Aminoisoheptane HClI'm still not seeing DMHA. Is it known by another name? Or am I just being blind?
Boy if i’ve ever seen a non-compliant label lmfao.. doesnt even have caffeine listed as an ingredientI’m a repp for CATEGORY5 , so check out our pre-workout with the 2-Amino-5-methylheptane version of DMHA (the naturally sourced and more potent form) called HURRICANE (THECATEGORY5.com) . Recommend taking some caffeine with it to help act on the teacrine. I take 3 capsules of their riptide which is 300mg of caffeine total and two scoops and it’s awesome. Works great on its own too.View attachment 162642
Boy if i’ve ever seen a non-compliant label lmfao.. doesnt even have caffeine listed as an ingredient
Yea because there’s no caffeine in it. Like I said, I took another product that contained the caffeine. The label is 100% compliant, if you see something that you feel needs to be questioned feel free to contact me.Boy if i’ve ever seen a non-compliant label lmfao.. doesnt even have caffeine listed as an ingredient
why bother doing that when there are already preworkouts that include both DMHA and caffeine?Yea because there’s no caffeine in it. Like I said, I took another product that contained the caffeine. The label is 100% compliant, if you see something that you feel needs to be questioned feel free to contact me.
Yes, we’re including an updated version that will include a more diverse profile, but this version was aimed at users looking for something to take in conjunction with a pre-workout or Intra - workout to enhance the effects of their caffeinated pres. A lot of users drink coffee pre-workout with their breakfast before a morning workout so they wanted something they could take with their coffee , which this enhances the effects of that caffeine without a riskier- high dose. Definitely appreciate the advice thoughwhy bother doing that when there are already preworkouts that include both DMHA and caffeine?
thats probably an extra step a lot of users wont be willing to take
ahh ok i can see where its application can come in handy in a scenario like thatYes, we’re including an updated version that will include a more diverse profile, but this version was aimed at users looking for something to take in conjunction with a pre-workout or Intra - workout to enhance the effects of their caffeinated pres. A lot of users drink coffee pre-workout with their breakfast before a morning workout so they wanted something they could take with their coffee , which this enhances the effects of that caffeine without a riskier- high dose. Definitely appreciate the advice though
i hate and never by products that contain caffeine. Its cheap nasty and masks the ineffectiveness and or underdose of the other stims.why bother doing that when there are already preworkouts that include both DMHA and caffeine?
thats probably an extra step a lot of users wont be willing to take
caffeine is a well known performance enhancer.i hate and never by products that contain caffeine. Its cheap nasty and masks the ineffectiveness and or underdose of the other stims.
I’m about to take a stim right now! I just need to decide which ones and how many..caffeine is a well known performance enhancer.
What are your options these days?I’m about to take a stim right now! I just need to decide which ones and how many..
I have painting to do!
It's also well know that some don't tolerate it well. I can take lots of other things combined without caffeine and have no adverse effects. Add caffeine and sides. Too much caffeine solo...sides. Thanks but no thanks.caffeine is a well known performance enhancer.
lol...the same could be said for most everything, but the VAST majority do tolerate it well.It's also well know that some don't tolerate it well.
its understood.lol...the same could be said for most everything, but the VAST majority do tolerate it well.
hell, caffeine is in almost everything these days!!!
Yup, one of the most proven, and it actually has a very good safety profile and other benefits.caffeine is a well known performance enhancer.
This. Some people are allergic to peanuts, does that mean they're bad?lol...the same could be said for most everything, but the VAST majority do tolerate it well.
hell, caffeine is in almost everything these days!!!
Perhaps because the way you worded your post made it sound like you were bashing caffeine and saying it's junk? Just because it's not for you doesn't mean it's not effective or good for most people.its understood.
So what does that have to do with me and my intolerance and desire to avoid it?
Read what I said! Perhaps its you and your interpretation.Perhaps because the way you worded your post made it sound like you were bashing caffeine and saying it's junk? Just because it's not for you doesn't mean it's not effective or good for most people.
Cheap - yes, very inexpensive.i hate and never by products that contain caffeine. Its cheap nasty and masks the ineffectiveness and or underdose of the other stims.
But caffeine is a more effective ergogenic aid than pretty much any other legal stimulant...Read what I said! Perhaps its you and your interpretation.
Cheap - yes, very inexpensive.
Nasty - yeah, products containing 400-500mg of caffeine per serving is nasty on top of cheap.
Excessive amonts of caffeine can MASK innefectiveness of other stimulants contained.
No where did I say what you are suggesting.
And literally the ying to the yang of every other stimulant found in stim supplements.caffeine is a well known performance enhancer.