The case for DMAA - thoughts?

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Just for public info, because DMAA is not scheduled, yet, you can buy bulk powder pretty cheap if you do an online search. Then you can add it to whatever pre you want.
I couldn't find any bulk suppliers do you know any?
 
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I couldn't find any bulk suppliers do you know any?
Can't give site info, but my recommendation is using the search engine duckduckgo rather than Google, and you will easily find what you want :)
 
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Can't give site info, but my recommendation is using the search engine duckduckgo rather than Google, and you will easily find what you want :)
 
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Anti hero labs Venom
Atlas Labs phenta inferno
I'm sure there are others but both of these are good to go for me.
Thanks for talking about Venom. Never heard of it. Just ordered. Like that it is mild on caff.
 

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I couldn't find any bulk suppliers do you know any?
Can't give site info, but my recommendation is using the search engine duckduckgo rather than Google, and you will easily find what you want :)
Looks like a handful of suppliers but I've never heard of most of them.

https://www.aasraw.com/products/dmaa/

https://nootropicsource.com/shop/powders/other-powders/dmaa-powder/

https://www.elvbio.com/product/buy-dmaa-liquid-solution/

https://sarmspharm.com/product/dmaa-13-dmaa/

https://mmg-labs.com/products/dmaa-powder-1-3-dimethylamylamine-hcl

https://delta-nutrition.eu/product/amp-citrate/
 
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You gotta go by site reviews, and if they offer COA and 3rd party testing, probably G2G.
 
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Anyone tried Savage AF?
 

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I didn't try yet. I do agree that the formula is terrible.
 
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No but that’s a terrible formula outside of the DMAA. You should look into Irate by Juggernaut Nutrition if youre really wanting DMAA.
I will vouch for Irate. I like it better than Phenta Inferno and Venom. They’re perfectly fine for the price I get them at but all Irate flavors literally taste like fountain drinks and are the nicest feeling too it seems for me.
 
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I will vouch for Irate. I like it better than Phenta Inferno and Venom. They’re perfectly fine for the price I get them at but all Irate flavors literally taste like fountain drinks and are the nicest feeling too it seems for me.
So irate is the way to go.
 
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Is DMAA even safe? Ive got several OG mesomorphs laying around
 

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Is DMAA even safe? Ive got several OG mesomorphs laying around
If you can tolerate transient increases in heart rate and blood pressure, yeah pretty safe. You could probably make a killing selling those though, if you wanted.
 

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If you like high stim PWOs you should check out Submission science Rocky 1,3 that s**t hit way harder than irate. Been a DMAA junkie for 10 years or so I've tried a truckload of weak stim PWOs over the years. It contains yohimbe though so might be a turnoff for some ppl.
 

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Spoke to the vp at Hi-Tech they are going to fight tooth to nail and keeping DMAA available as a sup. Let's wish them luck in court.
 
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Spoke to the vp at Hi-Tech they are going to fight tooth to nail and keeping DMAA available as a sup. Let's wish them luck in court.
Maybe this will spark some studies to be done on DMAA.
 

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Not sure if I can post a link to the priceplow article but they released something yesterday regarding DMAA. Here is the headline.....

Government Ordered to Return Five Truckloads of DMAA to Hi-Tech Pharma
 
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Spoke to the vp at Hi-Tech they are going to fight tooth to nail and keeping DMAA available as a sup. Let's wish them luck in court.
they had a pretty major court win yesterday. FDA has to return all seized DMAA products for the time being which HTP values at ~$19m
 

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Here's the court paper!

https://blog.priceplow.com/wp-content/uploads/hi-tech-order-to-return-dmaa-20190503.pdf

They still can't sell it which is atrocious but a win still. The FDA's actions were clearly illegal and the first judge obviously being bankrolled and/or brainwashed by FDA agents. I'm glad some justice prevailed.
That document is great.

“Given the long, complicated relationship between the FDA and Defendants, I know better than to speculate about anyone’s motives.”
 
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Here's the court paper!

https://blog.priceplow.com/wp-content/uploads/hi-tech-order-to-return-dmaa-20190503.pdf

They still can't sell it which is atrocious but a win still. The FDA's actions were clearly illegal and the first judge obviously being bankrolled and/or brainwashed by FDA agents. I'm glad some justice prevailed.
I can understand that decision. Once the 11th circuit rules it'll give everyone a strong footing to move forward. Hopefully the ruling is returned soon
 
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Wow. This is, could be, good news.
 
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Wow. This is, could be, good news.
it won't impact the 11th circuits decision. This has nothing to do with DMAA's legality as a supplement, and everything to do with how the FDA conducts their business/operations in regards to seizures.
 

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it won't impact the 11th circuits decision. This has nothing to do with DMAA's legality as a supplement, and everything to do with how the FDA conducts their business/operations in regards to seizures.
Back in the day they raided health stores for selling melatonin and dhea with marshals with guns drawn. Seems like they like acting like terrorists.
 
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it won't impact the 11th circuits decision. This has nothing to do with DMAA's legality as a supplement, and everything to do with how the FDA conducts their business/operations in regards to seizures.
Presently it isn't illegal, and they are attempting to get the FDA to admit that DMAA is compliant. The ruling looks like it could be a stepping stone, not the end all be all.
 
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Presently it isn't illegal, and they are attempting to get the FDA to admit that DMAA is compliant. The ruling looks like it could be a stepping stone, not the end all be all.
I disagree. They have no correlation whatsoever.

This ruling is ONLY about the fact that the FDA is not allowed to seize stuff like this and just hold it indefinitely. This has absolutely nothing to do with DMAAs DSHEA compliance.
 

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I disagree. They have no correlation whatsoever.

This ruling is ONLY about the fact that the FDA is not allowed to seize stuff like this and just hold it indefinitely. This has absolutely nothing to do with DMAAs DSHEA compliance.
Ephedrine all over again.
 
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Ephedrine all over again.
Yes and no. The FDA went through the appropriate channels to have ephedrine banned, while for DMAA they have not. That has been one of HTP's main arguments since the start...if you want to ban it, do so appropriately. If not, leave us alone
 

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Yes and no. The FDA went through the appropriate channels to have ephedrine banned, while for DMAA they have not. That has been one of HTP's main arguments since the start...if you want to ban it, do so appropriately. If not, leave us alone
In terms of the FDA trying to take out anything that actually works off the market.
 
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I disagree. They have no correlation whatsoever.

This ruling is ONLY about the fact that the FDA is not allowed to seize stuff like this and just hold it indefinitely. This has absolutely nothing to do with DMAAs DSHEA compliance.
So this may actually cause the FDA to focus on getting DMAA banned through proper channels?
 
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So this may actually cause the FDA to focus on getting DMAA banned through proper channels?
No, I don't think this will impact literally anything. The FDA has to give the stuff back, but nothing changes in the dietary supplement world.

NOTHING changes until the 11th circuit makes its decision. Then there will be an appeal from either side. Once that happens, it will force either the FDA or HTP to try new channels.
 
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No, I don't think this will impact literally anything. The FDA has to give the stuff back, but nothing changes in the dietary supplement world.

NOTHING changes until the 11th circuit makes its decision. Then there will be an appeal from either side. Once that happens, it will force either the FDA or HTP to try new channels.
Thanks for clarifying!
 

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No, I don't think this will impact literally anything. The FDA has to give the stuff back, but nothing changes in the dietary supplement world.

NOTHING changes until the 11th circuit makes its decision. Then there will be an appeal from either side. Once that happens, it will force either the FDA or HTP to try new channels.
Thanks for the details. I was searching...
 
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Found a box in the basement with random supplements in it, assuming from when I moved years ago...found a unopened bottle of SNS Adrena-G! Can't wait to test its potency after all these years.
 

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Found a box in the basement with random supplements in it, assuming from when I moved years ago...found a unopened bottle of SNS Adrena-G! Can't wait to test its potency after all these years.
Waiting for the update, brah
 

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