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Stronger Fatburner?

JBerto

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Hi, I'll start my cutting cycle soon, and I need your help: Wich do you think is te stronger fatburner in the market?

I've found some interesting products, what do you think about these products? Do you know any other stronger than these?:


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(this is new, i haven't found it in nutra store yet)


All they looks interesting, but i'm not an expert in cutting supps, so please, help me choose!!!
 
Not experienced it yet, but Oxyelite pro is suppose to be the shiz nit... got some back ordered and hopefully coming soon...

the VPX Liquid Clenbutrx Hardcore looks pretty interesting, not seen it before..
 
zodiiac523 said:
Not experienced it yet, but Oxyelite pro is suppose to be the shiz nit... got some back ordered and hopefully coming soon...

the VPX Liquid Clenbutrx Hardcore looks pretty interesting, not seen it before..
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OxyElite profile its interesting, but it looks weaker than the other profiles.

VPX Clenbutrx and Redline Ultra Hardcore looks interesting
 
JBerto said:
OxyElite profile its interesting, but it looks weaker than the other profiles.

VPX Clengutrx and Redline Ultra Hardcore looks interesting
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I think im liking the VPX Liquid Clenbutrx Hardcore a bit more, im sure some one here has tried it before and could shed a lot more light than i could on it..

I have used VPX Meltdown in the past, no where near as potent but i remember liking the results.. Not saying get Meltdown, just saying VPX has had atleast one decent fat burner that i know of.
 
You can readily purchase ephedrine by buying Bronkaid or Primatene from CVS. However, if you'd rather not, then I think you will be alright with OxyElite Pro or Clenbutrx.
 
Clenbutrx is strong for a 3ml dose, and i felt it wasnt far from the potential of SLIM XTREME (imo). The profile is solid but still lacks feedback others have currently

EDIT:
BTW, theres other non-stim fatburners you can add to those. Generally more expensive than they are worth but you may be interested. products like DCP, (tta). Im using the SNS-TTA with CLENBUTRX since Nutra ran out of the bulk TTA. All i needed now was X-lean
 
for what its worth I'm on redline black on blue series right now the one available at nutraplanet and its appetite suppressing effects and overall energy boost are solid. However its not the Redline Ultra and if you go on vpx's website they don't even the list the one nutra has on their product catalog. I contacted nutra though and they assured me it is a legit product.
 
some might not like this comment but, educate yourself on things like clen, helios, and eca. over the years i've spent more money on OTC "fat burners" than i care to admit. and in the end proper diet and training wins everytime and for that extra little help go with the things that are proven to work and save your money.....
 
Into my fourth day of OEP and this stuff is amazing!! I tried most including ECA (several times) and so far even if only four days I'm getting better results than anything I've taken before. I have stubborn fat which I've never been able to get rid of and in the past have lost muscle trying. But this seems to be working so well. I'm not joking when I say I look slightly leaner each morning I look in the mirror!

The energy is pretty darn impressive too. Get so much more work done!
 
JBerto said:
Hi, I'll start my cutting cycle soon, and I need your help: Wich do you think is te stronger fatburner in the market?



I've found some interesting products, what do you think about these products? Do you know any other stronger than these?:


Nutrex Lipo 6 Black: Invalid Link Removed

Gaspari Mitotropin: Invalid Link Removed

VPX Liquid Clenbutrx Hardcore: Invalid Link Removed

VPX Redline Ultra Hardcore: Invalid Link Removed
(this is new, i haven't found it in nutra store yet)


All they looks interesting, but i'm not an expert in cutting supps, so please, help me choose!!!
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ECA or Clen

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/weight-loss/147712-logging-my-first.html
 
i ran 1 bottle of oep-upped cardio, with little to no intentional change to diet. dropped lifting down to once or twice a week-lost 14lbs. i was impressed with results.
 
SCIFIT TRICUTS III

If you has luck to find this product with the last ingredient above YOU WIN!
i got one bottle but seems is the new batches without this (3-5 Diiod LTyrosine)

Guggul LIpid Extract (standardized for 60mg guggulsterones) 600mg
Guarana Extract (standardized for 200mg caffeine) 400mg
Coleus Forskoholii 300mg
L-Tyrosine 200mg
7-Keto DHEA 150mg
Octopamine 150mg
Yohimbe Bark Extract 125mg (Standarized to 10% Yohimbine)
Caffeine 100mg
3-5 Diiod LTyrosine 200mcg
 
saggy321 said:
Into my fourth day of OEP and this stuff is amazing!! I tried most including ECA (several times) and so far even if only four days I'm getting better results than anything I've taken before. I have stubborn fat which I've never been able to get rid of and in the past have lost muscle trying. But this seems to be working so well. I'm not joking when I say I look slightly leaner each morning I look in the mirror!

The energy is pretty darn impressive too. Get so much more work done!
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I'm sure OEP its a good sup, but if we looks at ingredients, how can it be better than, for example, VPX Redline Ultra Hardcore, or Gaspari Mitotropin?

OEP:
Caffeine 100 mg
Proprietary Blend 119.5 mg: **
Bauhinia Purpurea L. (Leaf and Pod) (Standardized for Bauhniastatins 1-4)
Bacopa Monniera (Leaf)
1,3-Dimethylamylamine (Geranium [Stem])
Cirsium Oligophyllum (Whole Plant Extract)
Rauwolscine (Rauvolfia Canescens L. [Leaf and Root])

VPX Redline Ultra Hardcore:
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Gaspari Mitotropin:
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Wich compound in OEP formulation make it better than the competitors?
 
I am loving OEP I can tell you from personal experience also that liquid clenbutrx works GOOD but the taste is god awful always felt like throwing up when i had to take my dose. and it's real thick liquid hard to get the taste out of your mouth and throat but it works great if you can put up with it. Lipo6 black was disappointing to me i waited a long time for it to come out and it didnt' live up to expectations I like regular lipo 6 better
 
jberto-come on man, you are no noob-you know damned good and well you can't always judge a product's effectiveness just by ingredients listed on label. many times i have been very impressed by a simple formula-and just as many times i have been let down by what looked like a spectacular product on paper.


just sayin-oep works damned good!
 
thebigt said:
jberto-come on man, you are no noob-you know damned good and well you can't always judge a product's effectiveness just by ingredients listed on label. many times i have been very impressed by a simple formula-and just as many times i have been let down by what looked like a spectacular product on paper.


just sayin-oep works damned good!
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Yeah, that's true, bro.

Anyway, you know, i'm not well versed in cutting supps (until now, i was only concerned in adding more muscle with hormonals (PH/roids)). Now i've the muscle i want, but now i must lose some fat.

I know about hormonals, but I'm starting to learn about cutting supps.
 
JBerto said:
Yeah, that's true, bro.

Anyway, you know, i'm not well versed in cutting supps (until now, i was only concerned in adding more muscle with hormonals (PH/roids)). Now i've the muscle i want, but now i must lose some fat.

I know about hormonals, but I'm starting to learn about cutting supps.
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gottcha-i know you know your stuff, i've seen your posts. oep may look simple on paper but it does work well-take it from someone who has tried a lot of fatburner/stims. if you wanted an extra kick suppress-c by cel is a very good often overlooked product.
 
Give the OEP/recreate combo a go. I've used it and plan to use it again, I don't think you'll find anything better.
 
so the final contestants on AM Fat Burn Idol are...Gaspari Mitotropin w/ additional 2 caps of TT-33 per day.
USP Labs OEP w/ Sesamin
Vapor XT by AMS
OEP, ReCreate, DCP
Ehpedrine HCl + Caffeine + RPN’s Alpha Burn
VPX Redline Ultra Hardcore
Liquid Clenbutrx

who wins?! stacks can win too.

So far it looks like OEP is the clear favorite.
 
TrynaImprove said:
so the final contestants on AM Fat Burn Idol are...Gaspari Mitotropin w/ additional 2 caps of TT-33 per day.
USP Labs OEP w/ Sesamin
Vapor XT by AMS
OEP, ReCreate, DCP
Ehpedrine HCl + Caffeine + RPN’s Alpha Burn
VPX Redline Ultra Hardcore
Liquid Clenbutrx

who wins?! stacks can win too.

So far it looks like OEP is the clear favorite.
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even though i am a axis rep-i have to say that if you wanted to combine oep with some sesamin, hemodraulix would be a great way to go-oep/hemodraulix for the win. imho hemodraulix goes great with almost everything.
 
Oxyelite pro is very weak in my experience. Ive recently lost 46 pounds and have a pretty good judge on product effectivness. its actually the one of the worst fat loss products ive ever used as it extremely increased my hunger dramatically. this is very abnormal for me and ive tried alot of products. This is my personal experience so i request the OEP lovers to please give me space thanks.

If you want something that will work very well I would get a geranium containing product that OEP has and stack TT-33 or Dicana, which OEP is supposed to stimulate thyroid. Your fat loss will be (should be) much much better than OEP. basically trying to mimick OEP but make it MUCH more effective.

this is what i would do
tt-33 2,3,3,3,3,2 then PCT get 60cap bottle of 7-keto and run 200mg daily for 3 weeks along with kelp.

stack Primaforce 1,3-Dimethylamylamine with above for some real serious weight loss. be careful and good luck.
$26 bucks for 200 servings!

200mg caffeine caps
$6 for 100 servings!!!

2 RPN Alpha-Burns a day to also mimick what OEP has to offer.
$15 for 100 servings!!!!

ive stacked thyrotabs/thyrocuts with LG speed V2 (which has geranium) and caffeine for the best cutting experience ive had since the original Xenadrine days. ill be doing something like the above some time soon.
 
thebigt said:
even though i am a axis rep-i have to say that if you wanted to combine oep with some sesamin, hemodraulix would be a great way to go-oep/hemodraulix for the win. imho hemodraulix goes great with almost everything.
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One of the BEST FAT ASSASINS for me was the old Adipo-X by Axis Labs a SOLID PRODUCT
and the other was Fast Action Pharma Liquabolix both are very similar but the last has 3,5 Diiodo L-Tyrosine ohhh yeahhh

i don`t know why has been discontinued but this has my eternal vote
 
Ax1.....I guess it just goes to show how the same supp can effect people differently. My own experience of OEP has been great, especially the apetite supression. I can go as low as 800 kcals and still not feel hungry. I took two tabs today and it was too much from me.....and I'm veteran when it comes to far burners.

I agree about combining with TT-33, but why would you stack 3 or 4 seperate ingredients to replicate one supplement.
 
saggy321 said:
Ax1.....I guess it just goes to show how the same supp can effect people differently. My own experience of OEP has been great, especially the apetite supression. I can go as low as 800 kcals and still not feel hungry. I took two tabs today and it was too much from me.....and I'm veteran when it comes to far burners.

I agree about combining with TT-33, but why would you stack 3 or 4 seperate ingredients to replicate one supplement.
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i know i know this was going to happen, i did request "space" lol, i state "my experience" i can only judge by what works for me and i have to be honest.

i would stack the 4 separate ingredients basically because its a good value and ULTRA powerful and effective especially compared to OEP, again its my opinion. not interested in getting into a debate let the viewers decide on to agree with me or not. i know popping these 4 will work better than anything i know right now, except personally ill add a fifth and add SNS RK500 to the program for $20 more bucks.
 
Some more questions:

1.- What do you think about this stack: TT-33 + Lean Xtreme + ClearShot concentrate?
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2.- Dicana and TT33 has the same effects?

3.- Would be interesting (to promote the fatloss and thermogenic effects) to take an N.O. supp along with the fatloss supp, or would it be a waste?
 
JBerto said:
Some more questions:

1.- What do you think about this stack: TT-33 + Lean Xtreme + ClearShot concentrate?
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2.- Dicana and TT33 has the same effects?

3.- Would be interesting (to promote the fatloss and thermogenic effects) to take an N.O. supp along with the fatloss supp, or would it be a waste?
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i dont understand why they sell tt-33 and lean xtreme as a stack, when it really should be sold as a thyroid pro-hormone (not sure if this is proper terminology) and PCT combo. Lean Xtreme has 7-OH in it which is another form of 7-keto which may be beneficial to take AFTER tt-33. the question is if it has the same normalizing effect of 7-keto dhea had to offer at the 200mg dosage (got this 7-keto info from Dr. Dinoii)

ive never tried clearshot, but it will cost you more money in the long run you only get 24 servings for $25 and each 2 capful serving has 125 mg of caffeine when i prefer 200 personally.

i dont do N.O. supplements, they never work well on me and it may be because im on a year round strict low carb diet.

Beta-Alanine is good during a cut, will help your performance improve and help preserve muscle mass. i usually start with about 4 grams a day and work my way up to 12 grams a day. SNS Beta-A 501 is a nice capped deal. Ive done nutra bulk brand and it made me feel nauseated and the tingles werent as intense as the SNS version which made me "think" the quality of the SNS version is superior to the nutra brand (which i tried about a year ago)

if you chose clear shot, just keep in mind the cost, i would easily rather pick up the primafors 1,3 and a bottle of plain 200mg caffeine caps and stack alpha burn and tt-33 to it for an extreme cut. just keep in mind that 200mg of 7-keto dhea is a proven method for thyroid PCT, and using 7-OH, well we dont know how much is being used in lean xtreme and i cant comment on its PCT effectivness. you can find 7-keto 100mg at 60 caps for about $18 you can PM me for the source.
 
J 2.- Dicana and TT33 has the same effects? [/QUOTE said:
missed # 2 here

tt-33 (if a legit product like proven it was) is more powerful than Dicana. ive done Dicana twice, and i love it. ive done thyrocuts/thyrotabs and i really really loved it and worked much better. Dicana is the equivelant of Thyrotabs, so taking tt-33 is like taking Dicana and thyrocuts all in 1 and its alot cheaper. Thermolife makes some very high quality stuff though, if you want to go milder stick with Dicana its a good formula. i usually do 6 weeks at a bottle and a half, and ill buy 1 more bottle down the road for another 6 week cycle.
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i saw this the other day on another forum, the user was paranoid, but i got in fact very excited to try out tt-33 (although ive done the same ingrediants). i did warn him to be sure to get his PCT in line.

oh i would always start at 2 with tt-33 and go up to 3 MAX and back down to 2 the final week before going into pct.

darkstar765 said:
I probably only took a weeks worth of TT-33 at 3 caps a day and recently had a blood test that checks everything. Everything was in check except for my T3. It was up at 481 when the normal range is 80-220. My T4 was fine. Would TT-33 jack up my T3 that fast??? B/c I am reading some of the sides of a high thyroid and I fall into the category on some of them. Now my doctor now wants to put me on some thyroid medication. I just need to know if TT-33 would increase my T-3 levels that quick or that significant or if I might actually have an overactive thyroid. Please help?!
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here is another post on the same thread

str1ation said:
Eat like **** my entire TT-33 bottle... definitely leaned out though haha.

Next time I try TT/Adopxil I will be following a strict pre-contest diet.
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ax1 said:
i saw this the other day on another forum, the user was paranoid, but i got in fact very excited to try out tt-33 (although ive done the same ingrediants). i did warn him to be sure to get his PCT in line.

oh i would always start at 2 with tt-33 and go up to 3 MAX and back down to 2 the final week before going into pct.

So how long would you run t-33 for say something like this...2/2/3/2 then pct of 7keto for 3 weeks at 200mg ed.
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am i wrong in thinking lipo 6 black is tt-33 but with extra goodies?

Lipo 6 black
Fat Oxidation Dual-Stimulator:
33 Diiodo-L-thyronine
35 Diiodo-L-thyronine 150mcg
 
ax1 said:
i saw this the other day on another forum, the user was paranoid, but i got in fact very excited to try out tt-33 (although ive done the same ingrediants). i did warn him to be sure to get his PCT in line.

oh i would always start at 2 with tt-33 and go up to 3 MAX and back down to 2 the final week before going into pct.



here is another post on the same thread
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jherman08 said:
am i wrong in thinking lipo 6 black is tt-33 but with extra goodies?

Lipo 6 black
Fat Oxidation Dual-Stimulator:
33 Diiodo-L-thyronine
35 Diiodo-L-thyronine 150mcg
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no i think you are right,i saw this as well the other day,i was going to buy some but it has yombine in it and i can't take it at all.
 
saggy321 said:
Into my fourth day of OEP and this stuff is amazing!! I tried most including ECA (several times) and so far even if only four days I'm getting better results than anything I've taken before. I have stubborn fat which I've never been able to get rid of and in the past have lost muscle trying. But this seems to be working so well. I'm not joking when I say I look slightly leaner each morning I look in the mirror!

The energy is pretty darn impressive too. Get so much more work done!
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I share your enthusiasm, i'm in the same position, as are a few others on the forum and a couple of us are logging are results here....

anabolicminds.com/forum/usp-labs/147569-usp-labs-oxyelite.html (sorry can't post a link as i'm a newbie with a low post count at the moment...)

Why not add your views and log to the thread?
 
johnnyjuice said:
ax1 said:
i saw this the other day on another forum, the user was paranoid, but i got in fact very excited to try out tt-33 (although ive done the same ingrediants). i did warn him to be sure to get his PCT in line.

oh i would always start at 2 with tt-33 and go up to 3 MAX and back down to 2 the final week before going into pct.

So how long would you run t-33 for say something like this...2/2/3/2 then pct of 7keto for 3 weeks at 200mg ed.
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i would do 2/3/3/3/2 for 5 weeks then pct. just my opinion and my experience
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jherman08 said:
am i wrong in thinking lipo 6 black is tt-33 but with extra goodies?

Lipo 6 black
Fat Oxidation Dual-Stimulator:
33 Diiodo-L-thyronine
35 Diiodo-L-thyronine 150mcg
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havent heard good feedback on that, and we dont know how much of each ingrediant is included which is a negative.

tt-33 allows for flexibility and create your own formula options, plus i like to work my way up to 3 doses a day, lipo 6 black is really a twice daily product. you can add 1 serving of tt-33 to it but again we dont know how much is in this prop blend. so far i havent seen good feedback on it yet, i had a bottle and decided to sell it on ebay.

iforce posted legit results from an independent lab which is a good thing.
 
JBerto said:
OxyElite profile its interesting, but it looks weaker than the other profiles.

VPX Clenbutrx and Redline Ultra Hardcore looks interesting
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As a user of OxyElite Pro, I can attest it is not your mothers fat burner and very potent. Stop looking at the stimulant content and focus on ingredient synergy and you will come back to OEP every time. I have easily lost 5+ pounds of fat with a sound diet in the last 15 days. It is pretty ridiculous and I dare you to take 2 at one and tell me it is not potent. :smite:
 
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