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PES Norcodrene ??

I thought Cherry Limeade was next, then Citrus Splash. Did they change it again?

I can hold off if its splash. Honestly I think CL Amino IV is the best tasting supplement I've ever had. PES absolutely nailed that flavor.
 
I can hold off if its splash. Honestly I think CL Amino IV is the best tasting supplement I've ever had. PES absolutely nailed that flavor.

I still give the award to RL Alphamine, CL AminoIV is my #2
 
With an ingredient 20x as potent as caffeine (I realize this is in terms of mechanisms other than as a stimulant) but just to be safe I will ask,

Is this stackable with other stimulants?

Ie. if it is good pre-workout I would take it along with 1 scoop of a pre-workout (200mg caffeine)
Unless this would be ill-advised

Bumping this
 
Rasberry lemonade sucks! Fruit punch flavor blows it out of the water!

Uh oh we can't let this battle happen here, it tends to be many pages long and violent. Alphamine has a very loyal and dedicated following lol
 
I can hold off if its splash. Honestly I think CL Amino IV is the best tasting supplement I've ever had. PES absolutely nailed that flavor.

No question...although there is another BCAA supplement that is not too far behind it..but I won't name it.. :-)
 
Question I've always had on amentoflavone, is this an ingredient that needs to be taken over a period of time for it to be effective or does the effects work dose to dose?
 
Bumping this

20x potent. Depends on sensitivity. Generally with stimulants heres how it goes.

If you're fine with 200 mg...stick with 200 mg. Double that and you run into side effects. 100 mg more may mean slightly increased bp and more energy. 600 mg more may mean vomiting. Depends on the person.

Generally stimulant abuse is the only cause of long term damage. The short liver enzyme spike ,increased kidney activity and being nauseous or sick will fade apon the duration of the stim.

Try it. Everyone is different.
 
With an ingredient 20x as potent as caffeine (I realize this is in terms of mechanisms other than as a stimulant) but just to be safe I will ask,

Is this stackable with other stimulants?

Ie. if it is good pre-workout I would take it along with 1 scoop of a pre-workout (200mg caffeine)
Unless this would be ill-advised

I believe it will be recommended to forgo combining this with any other stim products at the same time. It'd probably be better off to just combine with a non-stim or with any bulk ingredients you'd like to add. The ingredients in this should lend themselves to positive benefits pre-workout though. :)
 
I would like to have it now please.

So would I. :D

I promise it is REAL close. Not much wait...luckily that leak of info wasn't super early or it'd be hard to wait for it. :(
 
But u've had it since August
of 2012 slowpoke Haha ;) Invalid Link Removed

You don't know the half of it...but damn, where are you guys seeing this? Our baby is being released too early!
 
20x potent. Depends on sensitivity. Generally with stimulants heres how it goes.

If you're fine with 200 mg...stick with 200 mg. Double that and you run into side effects. 100 mg more may mean slightly increased bp and more energy. 600 mg more may mean vomiting. Depends on the person.

Generally stimulant abuse is the only cause of long term damage. The short liver enzyme spike ,increased kidney activity and being nauseous or sick will fade apon the duration of the stim.

Try it. Everyone is different.

I believe it will be recommended to forgo combining this with any other stim products at the same time. It'd probably be better off to just combine with a non-stim or with any bulk ingredients you'd like to add. The ingredients in this should lend themselves to positive benefits pre-workout though. :)

I'm pretty stim tolerant. But I was planning on using a very caffeine heavy fat burner AND condense for the C in my upcoming YC run. I was going to forgo the YC and use norcodrene. I will probably just slot the norco in another time solo to see how it goes. Ill definitely pick it up on the insider tho, well, bc the one time I didnt do an Insider deal, I got very sad :(
 
As an added and not yet mentioned bonus, this can replace your preworkout.

Cirisum japonicum = NO booster. Amentoflavone = strength enhancer. Energy and focus are out of this world with the product. ANd yohimbe increases fat loss while training. Can't ask for much else in a preworkout.

For more on amentoflavone prior to the writeup, Neuron wrote an exceptionally accurate article on the ingredient: Invalid Link Removed

So is this going to be the product that replaces enhanced, or is there a different product being released as a pre?

I'm a big fan of amentoflavone.
 
So is this going to be the product that replaces enhanced, or is there a different product being released as a pre?

I'm a big fan of amentoflavone.

Same, and more specifically uncut. Only pre ive noticed a tangible effect on strength with
 
Rasberry lemonade sucks! Fruit punch flavor blows it out of the water!

LOL. Um No

This...

RL > FP by a mile.

So is this going to be the product that replaces enhanced, or is there a different product being released as a pre?

I'm a big fan of amentoflavone.

I hope this is not replacing enhanced... Enhanced was MUCH Stronger than this looks
i dont think PES would want a Thermo as a replacement for a pre-workout. could be wrong.
 
So would I. :D I promise it is REAL close. Not much wait...luckily that leak of info wasn't super early or it'd be hard to wait for it. :(

Sneaky mutant ninja turtles.
 
Looks like I will be trying this out solo a few workouts, then adding it to high volume.

In all honesty with my stim tolerance I give it a week before I stack it with a stimmed pre anyways lol

You can quote this if my heart explodes and lawsuits occur ;)
 
I like it. I'm going to do: AT2 Norcodren Erase Pro Forskolin ArA And if I'm feeling nutty, ABE also. I'll probably bridge the ABE and ArA though.

Why no Alphamine? Just curious to your reasoning as I thought it was a superior product to Alpha t2.
 
Why no Alphamine? Just curious to your reasoning as I thought it was a superior product to Alpha t2.

Recommended not to run another stim product with Norcodrene. I mean I could use both, but would have to split the doses and wouldn't get the full dose of either Norcodrene or Alphamine as I would be using both but splitting the doses. So AT2 fits in with Norcodrene better IMO.

But I am contemplating using Alphamine along side it even though I would not get the full 3 doses.
 
We tend to have a lot of the same questions don't we? Feel like it's a daily occurrence to bump a post lol

I really can't recommend anything besides sticking to the labeled directions

Question I've always had on amentoflavone, is this an ingredient that needs to be taken over a period of time for it to be effective or does the effects work dose to dose?

Both, depending on the effect

So is this going to be the product that replaces enhanced, or is there a different product being released as a pre?

I'm a big fan of amentoflavone.

This will not replace enhanced. It's kinda in a category of its own. Thermogenic, GDA, well-being, etc

Im trying to figure out why the insider email hasnt been sent out yet.

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Looks like my 3rd stack of the year will be:
The new ABE
The new EP
And Norcodren

I've now planned my training and supplements for the first 32 weeks of the year
 
I really can't recommend anything besides sticking to the labeled directions

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Fair enough,

If you were to rate the stimulant effect compared to Alphamine? Or to a typical 200mg caffeine dose?

Harder hitting/longer lasting?
 
I think I'm still going to take alphamine with norcodrene.. full doses.. whats the worst that could happen?
:)
Kinda srs. Maybe..
Why you gotta put me between a rock and a hard place PES!!
 
Looks like my 3rd stack of the year will be: The new ABE The new EP And Norcodren I've now planned my training and supplements for the first 32 weeks of the year
Sexy stack! Make sure to give us your thoughts and progress. :)
 
I really can't recommend anything besides sticking to the labeled directions

Both, depending on the effect

This will not replace enhanced. It's kinda in a category of its own. Thermogenic, GDA, well-being, etc

Soon.jpg

So when is the preworkout coming?


Never?!?
 
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