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OUFINNY transformation with NeedToBuildMuscle and MrSupps!!!

What to run during this contest?

  • Epistrong for 5 weeks

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Superdrol/Epi Bridge w/ Dermacrine

    Votes: 12 66.7%

  • Pulsed Superdrol for 6-8 weeks

    Votes: 4 22.2%

  • Epistrong w/ AndroHard for 5 weeks

    Votes: 2 11.1%
  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .
DreamWeaver said:
Yah moving can be stessfull chillll......
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I am good to go now, made a lot of progress yesterday with unpacking to the point where I can function in my new place. After that though it was too late for a workout but tonight I will get one in for sure; never been so happy to have work start as it helps me get things back in order instantly. :lmao:

For those that are interested, I started my cycle support yesterday. Projected cycle start date, two Sundays from now. T3 will be started next weekend as well!!!!!
 
Got in a nice back/bis workout last night in the 5x5 fashion, even after days off I tore it up. Here is a brief overview:
Bent over BB Rows - up to 235x5
Lat Pull down (wide) - up to 160 Suck at this exercise
Narrow seated row - up to 160
Seated curls - 40 pounds
Standing ez bar curls - 85 pounds

Today will most likely be legs to give the upper body a rest. Should be a doozy and hopefully I don't have issues like I did last week with squats and my lower back. I got a few helpful tips from one of the guys at the gym that has the same issue I do, if it works I will update you. Basically I get this severe tightening almost like a back pump in my lower back after multiple sets, no pain after about 15 minutes but it limits my squat range of motion. Any thoughts, post them!
 
Legs today these are what I am going to focus on:
Squats 5x5
Leg Press 5x5
GHR 3x10 (these are brutal)
Leg curls 3x8-10
Calves - various exercises including donkey calf raises and standing calf raises.

If I can walk normal when I am done, I will do more.
 
oufinny said:
Legs today these are what I am going to focus on:
Squats 5x5
Leg Press 5x5
GHR 3x10 (these are brutal)
Leg curls 3x8-10
Calves - various exercises including donkey calf raises and standing calf raises.

If I can walk normal when I am done, I will do more.
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Legs went well yesterday, did 275x5 for 4 sets on squat, that would be a PR for under 200 pounds. Not bad for being on low cals and under 75 grams of carbs a day! I didn't do leg curls, hammies were shot from leg press/squats and I did try the GHR but that machine is BRUTAL. I can do back raises on it just fine, to do a true GHR I got 2 reps. The amount of hamstring and core strength needed is INSANE. Maybe on cycle I can get to 4-5 reps for a few sets, we shall see.

So far all goes well with the cycle support pre-load, I actually feel a little healthier at the moment and I think my blood pressure is a little lower which is great.
 
Getting PR's in a calorie defecit AND low carbs?....very nice bro!!:biggthumpup:
 
RickRock13 said:
Getting PR's in a calorie defecit AND low carbs?....very nice bro!!:biggthumpup:
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In all seriousness, I have to give a lot of credit to AppNut Drive, it is quite the underrated product. Right after I started it up again I strarted gaining my strength back within a week. If you have not tried it, I would look into it for something to be used in between cycles or part of any natty stack. There are other products I like but this one has been a nice surprise and the cordyceps in it make for some great workouts. I always had mixed thoughts on AppNut, now my thoughts are changing a little (still think FreeTest is kinda retarded but I could totally be wrong).

Plan updates and what is ahead for the week:
CS 2.0 - continue pre-load
T3 - 25 mcg starting this weekend
Dermacrine - start Wed/Thurs next week (have 2 bottles)
Clenviscerate - start next week
IGF-1 LR3 - Probably start next week 3-4 days, then go everyday thereafter for 50-60 days
Sat/Sun next week - 30 mgs DMZ

Diet changes - Currently I am doing a low carb diet by Scivation, the New American Diet, and it is going well though I am going to add in lots or carbs next week before I start the UD2.0 to get my metabolism going full bore. Also, the T3 needs enough cals so it won't be catabolic with the clen. I will see about adding in 100-150 grams of carbs each day next week then start the UD2.0 on Monday. Hoping the clen will give me some help with appetite control as ~1700 is very little for 4 days.

Training - Continuing 5x5 as it is yielding some good strength gains, though next week I am going to ramp to a higher rep routine with 3-5 sets in the 8-10 rep range. This should get my joints ready for the volume training/depletion workouts that are looming on the horizon. I am really amped to start this and a little freaked out as this is my first dip into doing research on my rat.
 
oufinny said:
In all seriousness, I have to give a lot of credit to AppNut Drive, it is quite the underrated product. Right after I started it up again I strarted gaining my strength back within a week. If you have not tried it, I would look into it for something to be used in between cycles or part of any natty stack. There are other products I like but this one has been a nice surprise and the cordyceps in it make for some great workouts. I always had mixed thoughts on AppNut, now my thoughts are changing a little (still think FreeTest is kinda retarded but I could totally be wrong).

Plan updates and what is ahead for the week:
CS 2.0 - continue pre-load
T3 - 25 mcg starting this weekend
Dermacrine - start Wed/Thurs next week (have 2 bottles)
Clenviscerate - start next week
IGF-1 LR3 - Probably start next week 3-4 days, then go everyday thereafter for 50-60 days
Sat/Sun next week - 30 mgs DMZ

Diet changes - Currently I am doing a low carb diet by Scivation, the New American Diet, and it is going well though I am going to add in lots or carbs next week before I start the UD2.0 to get my metabolism going full bore. Also, the T3 needs enough cals so it won't be catabolic with the clen. I will see about adding in 100-150 grams of carbs each day next week then start the UD2.0 on Monday. Hoping the clen will give me some help with appetite control as ~1700 is very little for 4 days.

Training - Continuing 5x5 as it is yielding some good strength gains, though next week I am going to ramp to a higher rep routine with 3-5 sets in the 8-10 rep range. This should get my joints ready for the volume training/depletion workouts that are looming on the horizon. I am really amped to start this and a little freaked out as this is my first dip into doing research on my rat.
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this is great stuff here man outlined very nicely here
 
Everything looks good bro. I think you'll love the Dermacrine. Its been great for me so far
 
RickRock13 said:
Everything looks good bro. I think you'll love the Dermacrine. Its been great for me so far
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Thanks guys. Here is the deal on the IGF, it is oversold but I should have it next week. I also got some information that running it starting on say week 2 will be better for me as it will extend into PCT and help me keep gains. Moreover, I may not be able to run the UD2.0 with IGF as it is very low carb and my appetite is so supposed to go crazy on it. That said, there is a recomp version of the UD2.0 that is more like 2800 cals, similar to keto but with 60-100 grams of carbs, that should work well and still allow me to cut up well with the clen/t3 combo. I don't want to be miserably hungry for 6 weeks, I will kill something or someone and I like my job thank you!!!!

Going to catch a midday workout since I am off today due to weather. Shoulders and traps on tap, should be fun. Chest was great yesterday and I was able to maintain my strength on most exercises even though I am under maintenance. Weight is 200.8 before the daily download so it is under 200 and a nice recomp is already happening. I can see me being down to about 197 before I start if I can stay on track diet wise before I hit the hard stuff then the scale should go UPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!
 
So I hit up shoulders today, some great workout that was, damn they were rock hard and double sized at the end. Did shrugs with a 250 tractor tire today and for some of the reps I added 60 pounds so that is a 310 shrug for reps, 8 to be exact for 2 sets. Not bad for my scrawny self. Got my clen today and the Eviscerate Smolder is on order as well; once it gets here I will have to play mad scientist so my rat gets the right dose. I will be starting that here shortly as well.

Just an FYI, I tried Rag Ultra Caff free today WITH 1 scoop of Focus XT (same flavor), man that was a SICK workout. I had insane pumps and focus was, as you expect, off the charts. Love that there is MCC in the Rag, it is my favorite creatine.
 
Today is presenting me with some NASTY soreness everywhere in the upper body after that shoulder workout, NICE! I am feeling pretty good today, could be the T3 I just started who knows, so I will probably go do a full body blast for ****z and giggle. I figure that will be just as good as cardio.

Also, I am carbing up today so having a way to use this energy is a good idea or I will go stir crazy. The plan is 4 large carb feedings until I can't take it anymore, probably done by 4 PM then I will have a nice steak for dinner. Diet is on track, had my last night out yesterday and after the super bowl all booze is going to be ceased. Just dropping that from the weekends is going to be 2-4K cals less per week that are not junk.

I'm out, got to make moves!
 
When are you starting the IGF-1? I've been reading up on it more, and it seems interesting. Are you doing sub-q or IM injections?
 
It will be as close to IM as a .5" pin will get. I'm not buying more pins.

Some updates for all of you that are following...

Supps in play right now:
Dermacrine - 4 pumps per day
Erase - 2 per day
Perform - 4 per day
Fish Oil - A crap load
CS 2.0 - per bottle
PCT Assist - Got some on a trade, finishing off just to boost test, enough for 5 more days
Cytomel (T3) - 25 mcgs/day

Soon to be added:
Forged DMZ - 30 mg/day
IGF-1 LR3 - TBD
Clenviscerate - TBD
AI HGHPro - 2 bottles :) (best trade deal ever, perfect timing for this)
Joint support - picked something up at Sam's that I liked the profile on
Fish Oil - Got 700 caps at Sam's for under $20, hells yeah! 10 grams or more per day
Benadryl - Got 400, yes 400, for $4 so I have plenty to take with clen

That pretty much covers it, I need to make a dang schedule to keep up with all this stuff starting next week. My outlook is going to be crazy with all the reminders it is going to give me, take this, take that!

And for those that care, GO STEELERS!! This Bears fan cannot in good conscience root for the Packers, sorry.
 
I am going to try and get 1 inch needles for IM buy I will be using DES and we will be comparing notes for those interested... My research has me thinking that DES binds to the receptor allowing it to remain in the blood stream longer. IM injections is supposed to be the way to go with DES.
 
I am using both IGF-2 and IGF Des (starting with 35mcg of each, pinned bi laterally pre workout) then hitting up PEG MGF immediately post workout.

I will be starting the IGF combo today, with a week of rest under my belt, and LEG day :) and I will also be increasing my total Time Under Tension for every body part I hit. Good luck to ya OUFinny...

Oh yeah.... How bout them packers ? hahaha
 
SouthernCharm said:
I am using both IGF-2 and IGF Des (starting with 35mcg of each, pinned bi laterally pre workout) then hitting up PEG MGF immediately post workout.

I will be starting the IGF combo today, with a week of rest under my belt, and LEG day :) and I will also be increasing my total Time Under Tension for every body part I hit. Good luck to ya OUFinny...

Oh yeah.... How bout them packers ? hahaha
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I was thinking more like 40mcg ed mornings and 40 preworkouts....
 
DreamWeaver said:
I was thinking more like 40mcg ed mornings and 40 preworkouts....
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That works too. It depends on how your body reacts to it. If you have the money you can always play with the dosing, I am going off of a couple of recommendations from people who have had good success with it.

I am also running a 3x daily dose of cjc1295 and ghrp. should be fun to see what results I get. Hell, it will be cool seeing everyone's results with peptides. I think they are gonna be getting a lot more use in future cycles.
 
SouthernCharm said:
I am using both IGF-2 and IGF Des (starting with 35mcg of each, pinned bi laterally pre workout) then hitting up PEG MGF immediately post workout.

I will be starting the IGF combo today, with a week of rest under my belt, and LEG day :) and I will also be increasing my total Time Under Tension for every body part I hit. Good luck to ya OUFinny...

Oh yeah.... How bout them packers ? hahaha
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Ha Ha Ha... neither team is my favorite and the best team definitely won. Green Bay could use a victory and they earned it, kuddos to them. If they were playing the Colts I would be pissed right now but that is neither here nor there as it didn't happen.

I am going to run the IGF-1 LR3 in two doses, 1 in the AM first thing and the other post workout with my carb meal to help with glucose disposal and protein synthesis, should be 30 mcgs per dose. Since it is systemic, I am going to start with 1 injection site, not bilateral.
 
DreamWeaver said:
I am going to try and get 1 inch needles for IM buy I will be using DES and we will be comparing notes for those interested... My research has me thinking that DES binds to the receptor allowing it to remain in the blood stream longer. IM injections is supposed to be the way to go with DES.
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I get that a longer needle is deeper into the muscle but there is not a lot of skin to go through in the chest, traps or tricep/bicep. You are going to be in the muscle after 1/4" without question. Less pain too :).
 
SouthernCharm said:
That works too. It depends on how your body reacts to it. If you have the money you can always play with the dosing, I am going off of a couple of recommendations from people who have had good success with it.

I am also running a 3x daily dose of cjc1295 and ghrp. should be fun to see what results I get. Hell, it will be cool seeing everyone's results with peptides. I think they are gonna be getting a lot more use in future cycles.
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Yah so many different protocols, you could go 40 bi-lat pre workout only or add some dosing on nwd's maybe just 40mcg on nwd's, actually i think I like that better...

Yah I will definitely be going into the pecs and bi's, lats and shoulders too maybe. I might need some of both..
 
A lot of Peptides talk in here. I don't know crap about them, but like Mich said I'm learning in here. Interesting stuff and always taking some mental notes for the future ;)
 
Speaking of peptides for rat research, here is one that has many an interest: HGH Frag 176-191. Check this write up and tell me you wouldn't be all about getting some of this.

The (HGH fragment 176-191) is a stabilized analogue of the growth hormone-releasing factor (GRF) that induces growth hormone (GH) in a specific and physiological manner. To date studies suggest that (HGH fragment 176-191) has several beneficial features: it reduces abdominal fat (in particular visceral fat), without compromising glycemic control (blood glucose), it increases muscle mass and improves the lipid profile. These characteristics make it an ideal candidate for the treatment of excess abdominal fat, an important aspect of HIV-associated lipodystrophy. At a dosage of 500mcg the (HGH fragment 176-191) was shown to increase lipolytic activity in adipose tissue. In other words this fragment potently burns body fat, especially stubborn adipose body fat, and it does so potently! Of significance, is that the fragment has no negative impact on insulin sensitivity, a stark contrast from its Human Growth Hormone counterpart.(Ng FM, Sun J,Sharma L, Libinaka R, Jiang WJ, and Gianello R 2000). Not only does the (HGH fragment 176-191) not interfere with the body’s natural insulin regulation as Human Growth Hormone can, the (HGH fragment 176-191) does not result in cellular proliferation as Human Growth Hormone does.
 
Wow crazy stuff, and yeah Fin as long as you are pinning in delts chest biceps triceps you should not have any problem getting into the muscle. Question is with it not going in far is there any chance of the IGF coming back out of the muscle when backing out? If so then you have a sub-q pin and it does not get transported around the body as it should. I don't know the answer to that just a though, since not so deep in the muscle there is less resistance from themuscle to keep the injection inside the muscle.
 
Some updates for you all. Dermacrine is doing a few things, one I am more hungry and have added in some extra food to cope with it. Second, I am looking a lot more full and defined. I can't say it is all the Dermacrine but A LOT of positive changes are being made. T3 is still going and is going to ramp up to 50 mcgs starting this weekend with the DMZ.

Other news, made my Clenviscerate tonight, it should be about 45 mcgs of clen per pump so I will start with 1 then go up from there. I may just add more clen if I need to instead of doing more pumps. The IGF is on its way but it won't get started just yet.

Had two very good workouts this week, back on Monday and Chest/Tris on Tuesday. I finally think I am getting a handle on better bench form. I did a set on decline and I could tell something clicked for the better, the weight was under total control and I had no shoulder discomfort. The goal is maintain these changes... we shall see!

Tomorrow I am going to do legs, oh how excited I am about that. There is a sick hack squat there that I am going to try and of course squats. More on that after it is done. I may get some pictures up pre-cycle so there is a good indication of where I am at as there have been good changes since the first pictures went up.
 
oufinny said:
Some updates for you all. Dermacrine is doing a few things, one I am more hungry and have added in some extra food to cope with it. Second, I am looking a lot more full and defined. I can't say it is all the Dermacrine but A LOT of positive changes are being made. T3 is still going and is going to ramp up to 50 mcgs starting this weekend with the DMZ.

Other news, made my Clenviscerate tonight, it should be about 45 mcgs of clen per pump so I will start with 1 then go up from there. I may just add more clen if I need to instead of doing more pumps. The IGF is on its way but it won't get started just yet.

Had two very good workouts this week, back on Monday and Chest/Tris on Tuesday. I finally think I am getting a handle on better bench form. I did a set on decline and I could tell something clicked for the better, the weight was under total control and I had no shoulder discomfort. The goal is maintain these changes... we shall see!

Tomorrow I am going to do legs, oh how excited I am about that. There is a sick hack squat there that I am going to try and of course squats. More on that after it is done. I may get some pictures up pre-cycle so there is a good indication of where I am at as there have been good changes since the first pictures went up.
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My clen is still not in, but more importantly my Tor is in that order ... :aargh: I can run eviscerate without Clen but an 8 week cycle without Tor!! I think not...
 
DreamWeaver said:
My clen is still not in, but more importantly my Tor is in that order ... :aargh: I can run eviscerate without Clen but an 8 week cycle without Tor!! I think not...
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Yeah I would hold off on starting until you get that Torem, I am happy that my nolva is sitting in the drawer already and I have enough for two cycles so no worries there. Next one though I may get some of this torem as I hear it is the bomb diggity.
 
oufinny said:
Yeah I would hold off on starting until you get that Torem, I am happy that my nolva is sitting in the drawer already and I have enough for two cycles so no worries there. Next one though I may get some of this torem as I hear it is the bomb diggity.
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I have 2 more weeks...
 
DreamWeaver said:
My clen is still not in, but more importantly my Tor is in that order ... :aargh: I can run eviscerate without Clen but an 8 week cycle without Tor!! I think not...
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That's why I carry a stash of RC's. I stock up at sale time, lasts 1-2 years properly stored.
 
Milas said:
That's why I carry a stash of RC's. I stock up at sale time, lasts 1-2 years properly stored.
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Smart thinking, I have enough clen to make my rat shake apart so I am good to go there ;). :drillsergeant:
 
Its good to see you having the great effects from Dermacrine that I'm having bro. It makes things a lot better running that stuff. Your doing great man. Keep it up!!
 
Lookin good in here OU. Can't wait to see what the 50mcg of t3 does to your appetite lol..

And looking forward to the IGF too bro, see how that treats you. The pumps I get from it are OBNOXIOUS!
 
Milas said:
That's why I carry a stash of RC's. I stock up at sale time, lasts 1-2 years properly stored.
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I'm pretty new to the scene haven't got a chance to stock up...tough when you have to order from Canada...
 
Well I made my last order today, this one is hush hush, can't have you knowing all my secrets!
 
DreamWeaver said:
I'm guessing HGH Frag....:afro:
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I question if you are checking my email... :spank:

It is too good a deal to pass up and the amount you get is stupid. As if I needed yet another thing to pin!!!!
 
oufinny said:
I question if you are checking my email... :spank:

It is too good a deal to pass up and the amount you get is stupid. As if I needed yet another thing to pin!!!!
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lol....

addicting aint it lol. i pinned my chest the other day and i was like hellll yeah lol

i might try hitting up a ml of test or tren in my pec and see how it does lol
 
DreamWeaver said:
I'm guessing HGH Frag....:afro:
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oufinny said:
I question if you are checking my email... :spank:

It is too good a deal to pass up and the amount you get is stupid. As if I needed yet another thing to pin!!!!
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Don't fall for his mind games. He is using the old Jedi mind trick on you...:lmao:


:wizard:


"These are not the droids you are looking for..."
 
RickRock13 said:
Don't fall for his mind games. He is using the old Jedi mind trick on you...:lmao:


:wizard:


"These are not the droids you are looking for..."
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:friday: I drink to the Star Wars reference, an all time favorite of mine. The source I have been using has such a ridiculous deal on a 3 pack I couldn't pass it up and I have enough AA coming that I can mix it all up no problem. Now I need to see about when to dose, most likely first thing in the morning and before bed. Any kind of pinning before a workout is not really feasible unless it is at the gym and that is minutes before I start. I could do that I just don't like the idea of carrying vial of GH frag and syringes in my gym bag!
 
pin in the car. takes a second.
 
SouthernCharm said:
pin in the car. takes a second.
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I guess with GH frag location won't matter so much either... I could pin before I go to the gym in the car come to think about it, it is 45 minutes before I hit the weights. Good idea even though it would be nice and awkward if someone walks by and I have a slin pin in my arm or chest.
 
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