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Old Fugger Ready to take on all challengers...Transfomation time!!!

As always killing it, that carb up looked righteous!
 
DreamWeaver said:
I forgot to menition I added 80 mg ed of formestane a couple days back... now that I am finished with the EPI...
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Just when you think you got it figured out, the old fugger has something new up his sleeve! :)
 
oufinny said:
I am with you Doug, my body just said enough with the DS. PCT is still pretty ridiculous, it is definitely a DW approved stack :).
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I don't remember approving it!! :biggthumpup:

BarbellBeast said:
Good stuff in here! Did you start up the s4 and osta? How do you plan on dosing them?
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S4 and Osta arrived yesterday, I wiill tale S4 at 50 mg ed till the last 2 weeks of my cycle and then up it to 75 the Osta will be used during PCT ...still not sure about dose yet...

MrKleen73 said:
As always killing it, that carb up looked righteous!
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that's a good way to describe it... I only have a couple left as when I hit the grapefruit regime I will only have on after 2 weeks.... It's right on the money though, I will not fug with it, just a little bit of spill over but it's gone the next morning.

mich29 said:
I agree thats nice mix there
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Already reaping some benefits...

RickRock13 said:
Just when you think you got it figured out, the old fugger has something new up his sleeve! :)
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Yah Estro was feeling a bit high and I was right on the money... big improvment already...
 
Looks like I am about to cross over into single digits soon, my ceratusis is starting to show which means 10% for me... maybe give it a week. The addition of Forma was the ticket, have really seen improvement.. now lets see what the improvement in diet and extra cardio combined iwth the S4 will do...


Another 30 minutes fasted cardio this morning and a long walk to work in the fuggin snow ... yah it's fuggin snowin again!!
 
Drop into my log Doug, you can approve my PCT :). And good to hear you are getting into the single digits, I would love me some formestane for PCT but I am not spending any more money on this cycle.
 
Nice work Doug, single digits are where it's at. I am well on my way there too. :)
 
oufinny said:
Drop into my log Doug, you can approve my PCT :). And good to hear you are getting into the single digits, I would love me some formestane for PCT but I am not spending any more money on this cycle.
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Will do lol I have erase for PCT and have been told that forma is really good for during, I don't disagree....

MrKleen73 said:
Nice work Doug, single digits are where it's at. I am well on my way there too. :)
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I gotta say I like your rroute better lol I will be using it for lean bulk/recomp for sure. If I can maintain anything like 10-12% using that method I'll be happier than a pig in ****....
 
DreamWeaver said:
I have erase for PCT and have been told that forma is really good for during, I don't disagree........
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Neither do I disagree. Formestane is great on-cycle since it is somewhat suppressive considering it converts to 4-OH in the system. Most people ignore this and try to use Form for their PCT's. Not advisable.

Erase will be great for your PCT. Since you're using so many other compounds, you could probably get by with 2 or 3 caps per day. I'd suggest starting at just 2 caps and assess you estro levels after 4 or 5 days on it. If you feel you need more, bump it on up to 3 caps per day. I don't think you'll ever need more than 3 caps daily however. It's fairly potent stuff. :yup:
 
thundergod said:
Neither do I disagree. Formestane is great on-cycle since it is somewhat suppressive considering it converts to 4-OH in the system. Most people ignore this and try to use Form for their PCT's. Not advisable.

Erase will be great for your PCT. Since you're using so many other compounds, you could probably get by with 2 or 3 caps per day. I'd suggest starting at just 2 caps and assess you estro levels after 4 or 5 days on it. If you feel you need more, bump it on up to 3 caps per day. I don't think you'll ever need more than 3 caps daily however. It's fairly potent stuff. :yup:
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Yah right on the money, I'm a 2 cap man with all the stuff I use during PCT....:arms:
 
When do you plan on taking your first dose of S-4? And do you think would it be beneficial to take S-4 pre-bed as you build muscle in your sleep?
 
tetrasarin said:
When do you plan on taking your first dose of S-4? And do you think would it be beneficial to take S-4 pre-bed as you build muscle in your sleep?
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I already started last night around 5pm, I sort of felt a little stim when I took it so before bed might not be a great idea...
 
Interested if you have the sides from S4 with all the anabolics you are on... I hope you don't!
 
oufinny said:
Interested if you have the sides from S4 with all the anabolics you are on... I hope you don't!
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Only time will tell, nothing yet but most of the stuff is pretty mild. The S4 is supposed to at higher dosing...
 
RickRock13 said:
Wow I didn't know that S4 had that effect. Good to know though
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Neither did I it might just be my imagination...

Ok up at 4 am on the Eliptical at 4:30 for 1 hour fasted cardio, into the shower then 5 k walk to work. My legs are still screaming from last nights leg routine to boot.

I better look fuggin good when I carb up!!!
 
^^^ This guy crazy, I was sawing logs at 4 AM!!!!
 
DreamWeaver said:
Neither did I it might just be my imagination...

Ok up at 4 am on the Eliptical at 4:30 for 1 hour fasted cardio, into the shower then 5 k walk to work. My legs are still screaming from last nights leg routine to boot.

I better look fuggin good when I carb up!!!
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Sweet set up there, AM fasted cardio and all the walking you do. I'm certainly not hanging with you on the cardio department.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Neither did I it might just be my imagination...

Ok up at 4 am on the Eliptical at 4:30 for 1 hour fasted cardio, into the shower then 5 k walk to work. My legs are still screaming from last nights leg routine to boot.

I better look fuggin good when I carb up!!!
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Nice!
oufinny said:
^^^ This guy crazy, I was sawing logs at 4 AM!!!!
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That is almost my regular schedule. Up 3:50 AM at gym and lifting or doing cardio by 4:35.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Nice!


That is almost my regular schedule. Up 3:50 AM at gym and lifting or doing cardio by 4:35.
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I sleep in compared to you two getting up at 4:50AM. Maybe I should get up earlier, but then I'd have to go to bed before 11...
 
RickRock13 said:
And I thought me getting up at 4:30 am was early. I guess I'm not the only early bird.
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There seems to be a bunch of us. I'm actually more encouraged now!
 
tetrasarin said:
Does the S4 from uniquemicals seem legit?
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Seems to be, I have heard some good things about there Orastine too

VolcomX311 said:
Sweet set up there, AM fasted cardio and all the walking you do. I'm certainly not hanging with you on the cardio department.
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I'm just getting through it myself...

MrKleen73 said:
Nice!


That is almost my regular schedule. Up 3:50 AM at gym and lifting or doing cardio by 4:35.
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That just makes you crazy like me...:lmao:

VolcomX311 said:
I can barely manage to get up and take a piss at that time. i don't know how you guys do it. What time do you get to bed, 8:00pm?
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I am asleep by 10 most nights...

RickRock13 said:
And I thought me getting up at 4:30 am was early. I guess I'm not the only early bird.
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Yah I really have no choice in the matter, might as well make use of my time...

Milas said:
There seems to be a bunch of us. I'm actually more encouraged now!
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Yah it's contagious...:arms:
 
Took a trip to Ottawa and back for my friends 50th, I've pretty much hit the wall and wall and will get some rest now and start the grapefruit diet tomorrow...
 
Enjoy that grapefruit diet DW. Keep the fats high, it should help your hormones stay optomized and give you energy along with cutting fat.
 
VolcomX311 said:
I can barely manage to get up and take a piss at that time. i don't know how you guys do it. What time do you get to bed, 8:00pm?
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Well the wife and I go into the room about 8:30-9:00 for our quality time. With the kids we have to take time for ourselves and that it is. We just talk or, whatever... :) We are up until about 10:00-10:30 most nights. I really don't need more sleep than that and will often wake up at 3:30 and not be able to shut my mind back down to fall asleep that extra 20 minutes.

I know some will disagree with this and say 8 hours is required but that does not take individualism into consideration. Metabolism and recovery are completely different from one person to another, just the same way as diet.

RickRock13 said:
And I thought me getting up at 4:30 am was early. I guess I'm not the only early bird.
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No not at all, and for me it is just easier not to miss workouts if they are the first thing you do.

DreamWeaver said:
That just makes you crazy like me...:lmao:
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Yeah crazy like a fox!
oufinny said:
Enjoy that grapefruit diet DW. Keep the fats high, it should help your hormones stay optomized and give you energy along with cutting fat.
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Yes this is always a great cutter and the high fats keep the muscle on. Less catabolism that way.
 
oufinny said:
Enjoy that grapefruit diet DW. Keep the fats high, it should help your hormones stay optomized and give you energy along with cutting fat.
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Yah I kind of like this diet, I should be getting enough fats from the steak and I am still taking 6 grams of fish oli ed and there is some in the fish I'm eating as well...

MrKleen73 said:
Well the wife and I go into the room about 8:30-9:00 for our quality time. With the kids we have to take time for ourselves and that it is. We just talk or, whatever... :) We are up until about 10:00-10:30 most nights. I really don't need more sleep than that and will often wake up at 3:30 and not be able to shut my mind back down to fall asleep that extra 20 minutes.

I know some will disagree with this and say 8 hours is required but that does not take individualism into consideration. Metabolism and recovery are completely different from one person to another, just the same way as diet.
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One thing to consider is age, it's impossible for me to sleep that much most nights, 6-7 hours is more the norm.
 
Ok yesterday was interesting....

Up and off to the gym, started my steak and grapefruit regime and just started Chris's warrior workout but with a double drop as apposed to a single. Need the volume right now... was preceeded by my 5K walk to the gym..

Decline DB Bench Press 85's X 10, 75's X 7 65's X 5 could have gone higher with the first set... oh well I plan to be progressive with this....

Bent Over DB Row, 75's X 10, 65's X 7 55's X 5
Standing Arnold Presses 50's X 10 40's X 7 30's X 5
DB Hammer Curls 55's X 10, 45's X 7 35's X 5 these were awesome.. ripped flesh from bone with some really slow negatives....
DB Overhead Triceps Extension 80 X 10, 70 X 7, 60 X 7
Leg Press 630 X 7, 580 X 6, 530 X 12
Leg Curls 140 X 9, 110 X 8, 95 X 6

Some of rep ranges may be off a bit as I am doing it from memory

5K back home I was feeling damn good... then I did 60 minutes on the eliptical when I got home... madness...

Up 4:45 am did 30 minutes on the Eliptical, showered then 5K in the cold to work .. it's supposed to start warming a bit tomorrow, I am so fuggin sick of winter weather!!!
 
By "warming up", does that mean above freezing?

Seriously, I don't know how you do it in the cold weather! I hated it when I lived in MI, and you're a few clicks north of that!
 
DreamWeaver said:
One thing to consider is age, it's impossible for me to sleep that much most nights, 6-7 hours is more the norm.
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Agreed one of the great things of getting older is needing less sleep.

VERY nice!

For me bed at 2 AM and wake up with no alarm at 7 AM and feel great!

So basically you have 15% more awake hours a week.

This equals and entire day compared to sleeping 8 hours.

The productivity sky rockets :)

Imagine that 52 days more per year, imagine what you can accomplish

EDIT: Just redid the math. It is 62 more days of being awake per year. So basically making a year 14 months instead of 12. Is that possible?

Somebody do the math lol
 
Milas said:
By "warming up", does that mean above freezing?

Seriously, I don't know how you do it in the cold weather! I hated it when I lived in MI, and you're a few clicks north of that!
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Yes above freezing starting tomorrow, today it will just make it to 0 or 32 feirhenheit...
 
CROWLER said:
Agreed one of the great things of getting older is needing less sleep.

VERY nice!

For me bed at 2 AM and wake up with no alarm at 7 AM and feel great!

So basically you have 15% more awake hours a week.

This equals and entire day compared to sleeping 8 hours.

The productivity sky rockets :)

Imagine that 52 days more per month imagine what you can accomplish
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Yah sometimes I wish I could sleep longer but if I am going to be up that early might as well make it count!! :drillsergeant:
 
Hmmm, turns out that grapefruit energizes me.. go figure ... I don't remember this being the case from last year... bonus!!!
 
Glad to hear the weather's warming up! It's just starting to warm up here....
 
punthra said:
Glad to hear the weather's warming up! It's just starting to warm up here....
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Yah it's usually a bit warmer there I believe, how similar is your weather to Vernon? You're a bit north I know... Winter was over March 01 in Vernon when I was living there...
 
We're definitely colder than Vernon....The snow should be gone here by mid april (Fingers crossed) but it usually takes until may to really start heating up. How long ago did you live in Vernon?
 
punthra said:
We're definitely colder than Vernon....The snow should be gone here by mid april (Fingers crossed) but it usually takes until may to really start heating up. How long ago did you live in Vernon?
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83-84 for about a year...
 
Beautiful city and it's grown quite a bit since you were there.
 
punthra said:
Beautiful city and it's grown quite a bit since you were there.
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Yah Kelowna too, I was there to help a buddy move back east a few years ago and was surprised when I went through Vernon how prosporous the town was looking. It was a bit dead when i lived there but very nice.
 
Well I'd be lying if I didn't admit that this new diet and added cardio is really pressing me... up at 4:45 for 30 minutes fasted cardio, shower walk 5K to work. I am hoping I will adjust to the low carbs. I am trying to fight off a cold and still have this infection.

Day 2 of the warrior workout today...

Just document it, I am doing 4 hours on the Eliptical besides my 60K of walking a week. I may have to increase that further but for now that's enough.

I am looking better all the time, but time is something their may not be enough of... seems like there never is...
 
Nobody should be saying anything about need2's prices, I just orfered a bottle of Helladrol whiich was 69.99 true, but it was 180 caps ... you'd have to buy 3 bottles of the competitors brand to get the same amount.

I also bought a bottle of formastanzol for 50 bucks but wait .. it's got twice as much formestane and DIM besides some other ingredients... this will do me through 2 cycles...

Wish they had EPI but I can get that, and will run the Helladrol with trenazone... which is going to be an awesome summer cycle.
 
Nice! I'm debating on a m-drol / 4ad run in late spring....
 
punthra said:
Nice! I'm debating on a m-drol / 4ad run in late spring....
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You might want to consider DieselbolanV2, the combo of DMZ and M-LMG make for a nice mass gainer and the DMZ will balance out the wet M-LMG. After taking DMZ, I can't picture anything stonger being fun... Superdrol is just mean and take so much to deal with the sides.
 
interesting... I'll keep that in mind!
 
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