After he posted that I tried it with lime and separately with lemon. Both were great!Tried this today it tastes awesome!
After he posted that I tried it with lime and separately with lemon. Both were great!Tried this today it tastes awesome!
Do you prefer it to raspberry lemonade High Volume?rl alphamine is the best flavored non-protein supplement you guys make. it's seriously underrated. it's been awhile since i've had it, gotta give it another whirl.
In my opinion, all three of the newer flavours go to the top. I can't decide on my single favourite, it is between margarita and strawberry pina colada.I bought my RL as my first tub of Alphamine a little while back and it's very good, but like carmaf, the Margarita has really blown me away. I see only periodic RL servings in my future until the Margarita tub is gone!
Sounds like something I could dig. HmmmAfter he posted that I tried it with lime and separately with lemon. Both were great!
i was actually quite disappointed in rl hv, tbh. rl alphamine is infinitely better, imoDo you prefer it to raspberry lemonade High Volume?
I much prefer it in HV.
Dbol + high volume, now that's where the real fun begins...who needs high volume when you have dbol
jokes
wheres my white choc macadamia select and prolific insider
i did that once was nuts lol painfull pumpsDbol + high volume, now that's where the real fun begins...
I didn't use preworkout when I was on dbol. I usually try not to on any orals because the pumps are already so glorious. HV makes me feel like I'm on a good oral tbhi did that once was nuts lol painfull pumps
How dare you bring up dbol in a PESCIENCE thread sir!who needs high volume when you have dbol
jokes
wheres my white choc macadamia select and prolific insider
As it should. We did not cut short on dosing or pump specific ingedients.I didn't use preworkout when I was on dbol. I usually try not to on any orals because the pumps are already so glorious. HV makes me feel like I'm on a good oral tbh
Oh trust me I know. Haven't use HV in almost a year but I could never forget the feelsAs it should. We did not cut short on dosing or pump specific ingedients.
For sure brother. After blast and cruising for a few years I definitely notice a huge difference while on HV. It really shines while feeling that loss of beastness deep into my cruise.Oh trust me I know. Haven't use HV in almost a year but I could never forget the feels
haha i like it to lower blood pressure to. you deff don't need pre wo on oralsI didn't use preworkout when I was on dbol. I usually try not to on any orals because the pumps are already so glorious. HV makes me feel like I'm on a good oral tbh
Yes, I wasn't at all troubled by the actual results of the study, but I highlighted it just to illustrate that these sweeteners are not entirely biologically inert as has been suggested since they originally came on the market. I don't know that they will ever be scientifically shown to have negative effects at all, but in the end it's just another substance I'm putting into my body unnecessarily with a degree of uncertainty in its effects. With all the other ingredients in these products, I take them because of their purported performance enhancing benefits, and after taking the time to do my own research consider them worth whatever associated risk there might be. With the sweeteners/flavors/colors, they serve no purpose except to make it go down easier, and I'd personally rather just suffer a bit of unpleasant taste or even mix it into some diluted fruit juice while accounting for the additional calories. I assume that was the thinking behind releasing E9 unflavored in the first place, and when it was first released I picked up like a dozen tubs just in case it didn't sell well enough and got discontinued, haha.^ definitely would be considered with enough desire
On that note thank you for giving us your thoughts/opinions here!
As a side note, if you looked into the human mass equivalents even this latest study is not troubling to me.
I certainly understand your thinking. Unfortunately, as you alluded to, very few products will sell well enough unflavored/unsweetened to warrant them being made (and continued to be made). I am personally comfortable with the low dosages of sucralose I intake with sweetened powders/pre-workouts, but I get that some people are not. As with anything, the dosage makes the poison.Yes, I wasn't at all troubled by the actual results of the study, but I highlighted it just to illustrate that these sweeteners are not entirely biologically inert as has been suggested since they originally came on the market. I don't know that they will ever be scientifically shown to have negative effects at all, but in the end it's just another substance I'm putting into my body unnecessarily with a degree of uncertainty in its effects. With all the other ingredients in these products, I take them because of their purported performance enhancing benefits, and after taking the time to do my own research consider them worth whatever associated risk there might be. With the sweeteners/flavors/colors, they serve no purpose except to make it go down easier, and I'd personally rather just suffer a bit of unpleasant taste or even mix it into some diluted fruit juice while accounting for the additional calories. I assume that was the thinking behind releasing E9 unflavored in the first place, and when it was first released I picked up like a dozen tubs just in case it didn't sell well enough and got discontinued, haha.
Thanks as always for listening to your consumers. PES is a great company and has earned and kept my trust over a long period of time.
For sure, and I've been taking Alphamine and High Volume despite my concern, because I too feel that the low amount of sweeteners I'm ingesting are most likely no problem. That said, if there was an unflavored version, I would switch to that immediately. I figured making some noise about it here could only help to make that happen.I certainly understand your thinking. Unfortunately, as you alluded to, very few products will sell well enough unflavored/unsweetened to warrant them being made (and continued to be made). I am personally comfortable with the low dosages of sucralose I intake with sweetened powders/pre-workouts, but I get that some people are not. As with anything, the dosage makes the poison.
haha ya I speak its praises every chance I get. Sucks bc I end up sipping it during the day bc it tastes so damn good.Hahah you guys are the true Team Nana OGs.
How do you gauge demand? Would it be at all cost effective to do a smaller limited run and see how well it sells?We have discussed unflavoured versions of Alphamine and High Volume but aren't convinced there is the demand for them.
We wouldn't want to manufacture a special unflavoured batch and then have them go to waste.
If the demand is there, we can do it of course.
I don't know that it's actually beneficial in any way, but I used to take my e9 intraworkout just because I didn't like chugging the whole thing so quickly. Lately though I've gone to mixing the e9 with a full 32oz of water and sipping it preworkout over the course of a half hour or so, and then actually sipping HV + Alphamine intraworkout. I know it's kinda weird, but I really like taking the caffeine intra... The extra energy kicks in gradually as I go through my workout and helps me keep up the intensity all the way to the end. Same thing with the HV... the e9 gives enough pump effect to start the workout, and doesn't hinder any of my compound lifts. Then as I start shifting to some isolation work later on in the workout, the HV is really kicking in and feels awesome.Anyone try Ergonine 1/2 pre, 1/2 intra? Would this be beneficial for looong workouts like 2+ hours?
My wife works a trainer and a friend, they double the workout since there are 2 of them. Then she usually does 30 min of cardio.
I like your idea of Alphamine intra, she does long hours at the gym and the boost during the workout. She can mix it with her aminos.I don't know that it's actually beneficial in any way, but I used to take my e9 intraworkout just because I didn't like chugging the whole thing so quickly. Lately though I've gone to mixing the e9 with a full 32oz of water and sipping it preworkout over the course of a half hour or so, and then actually sipping HV + Alphamine intraworkout. I know it's kinda weird, but I really like taking the caffeine intra... The extra energy kicks in gradually as I go through my workout and helps me keep up the intensity all the way to the end. Same thing with the HV... the e9 gives enough pump effect to start the workout, and doesn't hinder any of my compound lifts. Then as I start shifting to some isolation work later on in the workout, the HV is really kicking in and feels awesome.
Did this forever, still do.Anyone try Ergonine 1/2 pre, 1/2 intra? Would this be beneficial for looong workouts like 2+ hours?
My wife works a trainer and a friend, they double the workout since there are 2 of them. Then she usually does 30 min of cardio.
Same for me. About 1/8 pre for flavor and the rest intra in about 44oz with some aminoIV. Drink that through my hour workout and sometimes 20min sauna.Did this forever, still do.
My E9 goes into almost 26oz. Overall and I drink it throughout until I finish it.
Not everyone is as thirsty as me during their workout though lol, but in 2 hours I'm sure she'd like it.
You'll get just as much benefit IMO.
I've also done alphamine in this during longer lifts before, it lasted an hour into a 2+ so it worked nicely
I I don't typically mix those two because I take my hv a good while (45min+) pre and then if I take stims it's much closer.Whats your go to HV/E9 flavour combo?
I only have Paradise Cooler left, need to grab more cotton candy
Absolutely, any time dailyIs e9 ok to take intra as opposed to just pre?
Is e9 ok to take intra as opposed to just pre?
Anyone try Ergonine 1/2 pre, 1/2 intra? Would this be beneficial for looong workouts like 2+ hours?
My wife works a trainer and a friend, they double the workout since there are 2 of them. Then she usually does 30 min of cardio.
I don't know that it's actually beneficial in any way, but I used to take my e9 intraworkout just because I didn't like chugging the whole thing so quickly. Lately though I've gone to mixing the e9 with a full 32oz of water and sipping it preworkout over the course of a half hour or so, and then actually sipping HV + Alphamine intraworkout. I know it's kinda weird, but I really like taking the caffeine intra... The extra energy kicks in gradually as I go through my workout and helps me keep up the intensity all the way to the end. Same thing with the HV... the e9 gives enough pump effect to start the workout, and doesn't hinder any of my compound lifts. Then as I start shifting to some isolation work later on in the workout, the HV is really kicking in and feels awesome.
Did this forever, still do.
My E9 goes into almost 26oz. Overall and I drink it throughout until I finish it.
Not everyone is as thirsty as me during their workout though lol, but in 2 hours I'm sure she'd like it.
You'll get just as much benefit IMO.
I've also done alphamine in this during longer lifts before, it lasted an hour into a 2+ so it worked nicely
Same for me. About 1/8 pre for flavor and the rest intra in about 44oz with some aminoIV. Drink that through my hour workout and sometimes 20min sauna.
Most enjoyable time of my day ha
Anyone try Ergonine 1/2 pre, 1/2 intra? Would this be beneficial for looong workouts like 2+ hours?
My wife works a trainer and a friend, they double the workout since there are 2 of them. Then she usually does 30 min of cardio.
That's how I use it as well.Lol we all do it,
Nice with the big multi-quote highlighting this one though lol poor guy
Such a pesky fella! He says that was literally just discussed. LolThis was LITERALLY just discussed
Normally if there are a lot of requests on the forum it is a decent gauge.How do you gauge demand? Would it be at all cost effective to do a smaller limited run and see how well it sells?
Again, truly appreciate that you guys even consider this stuff as a possibility.
Thanks again... I won't get my hopes up, haha.Normally if there are a lot of requests on the forum it is a decent gauge.
Even if we did the smallest manufacturing run possible there is still a strong possibility we wouldn't sell through it all as a large percentage of customers place a large emphasis on taste. In all the years we have sold Alphamine and High Volume I have only ever seen a handful of people ask for unflavoured.
We can certainly consider it if more people ask for it.
For colors, not all of them actually have it. Hopefully this helps—I get the flavouring thing....most people want flavour (especially amazing PES flavour). Also, some of the ingredients that go into these products taste terrible on their own.
As for the colours....I really don't get it. I personally have no need for my Rasberry Lemondade to be red, etc. I've always been baffled by the need to add artificial colours. Do other people really need their products to be bright and vibrant when they mix it up?
Thanks for laying this out brother, repsFor colors, not all of them actually have it. Hopefully this helps—
High Volume
No artificial color:
cotton candy (beet juice powder)
raspberry lemonade (beet juice powder)
Yes artificial color:
paradise cooler
blue frost
Alphamine
No artificial color:
raspberry lemonade (no color)
cherry limeade (beet juice powder)
fruit punch (beet juice powder)
Yes artificial color:
margarita
appletini
strawberry pina colada
Good share here. I know it was mentioned this was shared before but I never saw it before this post.For colors, not all of them actually have it. Hopefully this helps—
High Volume
No artificial color:
cotton candy (beet juice powder)
raspberry lemonade (beet juice powder)
Yes artificial color:
paradise cooler
blue frost
Alphamine
No artificial color:
raspberry lemonade (no color)
cherry limeade (beet juice powder)
fruit punch (beet juice powder)
Yes artificial color:
margarita
appletini
strawberry pina colada
Thanks for sharing!For colors, not all of them actually have it. Hopefully this helps—
High Volume
No artificial color:
cotton candy (beet juice powder)
raspberry lemonade (beet juice powder)
Yes artificial color:
paradise cooler
blue frost
Alphamine
No artificial color:
raspberry lemonade (no color)
cherry limeade (beet juice powder)
fruit punch (beet juice powder)
Yes artificial color:
margarita
appletini
strawberry pina colada
I've personally tried both combos and feel RL has the best flavor for combining with other products flavors. CL and RL make such a sweet and sour combo it is a must try for sure.Thanks for sharing!
Has anyone tried mixing the raspberry lemonade HV with the cherry limeade or fruit punch Alphamine?
If so how did it taste?
yes! our numbers are growing!damn warpy beat me to it.. was just about to mention a lot color with beet.. so on that note.. coloring doesn't bother me.. it's the artificial flavoring.. i don't care if i have to buck something nasty as hell tasting.. it's not like Liquor ever tasted great str8 up..
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