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New ban. Brace yourselves, here comes the DEA

ReaperX said:
so I am assuming that the date June 28, 2008 is the 'official date' then ?


I told my friend about this earlier this past Jan that there might be a ban sometime in the near future so he stocked up (6 bottles). Talk about the stroke of luck.

It was the P-Plex.
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Honestly...i did the same.....I still have 2 bottles of original, sealed AX Pheraplex.....and dont ever plan on using it either.....
 
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That is all :D
 
msucurt said:
Honestly...i did the same.....I still have 2 bottles of original, sealed AX Pheraplex.....and dont ever plan on using it either.....
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What stuff have you used in the past ?


My friend tore off all his p-plex labels when I told him about the ban. So now he just has a bunch of white bottles with ripped off labels and a black marker written with a 'P' lol.


He also went to a doctor about his gyno he got from his last cycle (10 weeks). The doctor was like, "Oh, I use P-Plex and I don't have gyno issues, what serm are you using ?"


ahhhhh....lol
 
Yeah, I tried to sell S-Drol by fast action pharma and it's been pulled several times from ebay even though it's not banned or discontinued or anything. There are even ebay stores selling it, and I've appealed it asking why they've pulled it even though it's obvious it's not illegal and other stores are selling it and they refuse to comment or reply...
 
I've seen a few H-50 auctions that made it in. Also a couple of 1-AD and Nordiol auctions that got pulled after a few days.


I've heard questionable things about the company Fast Action. My friend used their DMT clone before switching over to P-Plex by CEL. I heard that S-Drol by Fast Action sucks, but of course that is just hearsay.
 
ReaperX said:
This is the whole reason why it is not a good idea to stock up.

If they are legal, then they will be manuf. and you can buy them. No biggie.

If they are illegal, despite the demand, you can go to jail for it.


It is a lose-lose situation no matter how you look at it.
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DEA hasn't been to my house lately. anybody elses?
 
Ur right. I don't have anything anyway. more expensive in gas to check @ my crib vs. what I even have.
 
hate to dissapoint, but i'm guessing the dea has better things to do than bust down your door because they see you purchased a few bottles of pp prior to the ban.
they just want it off the market......they aren't trying to catch everyone who might still have some in their house.
 
no disapointment here. Anyway, would if you kept your receipts to the stuff and just kept your stash. Any amount of bottles. Just For saying, If you werent' selling it.....they couldn't do crap anyway. Could they...
 
Hank Vangut said:
hate to dissapoint, but i'm guessing the dea has better things to do than bust down your door because they see you purchased a few bottles of pp prior to the ban.
they just want it off the market......they aren't trying to catch everyone who might still have some in their house.
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I wouldn't be so sure. This is wishful thinking.

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This guy got busted over ten d-bol tablets.

It is more of a slam dunk to go after someone who dosen't have the funds to protect themselves. If anything, the average joe is a huge target to hit up.
 
Bravoboy said:
no disapointment here. Anyway, would if you kept your receipts to the stuff and just kept your stash. Any amount of bottles. Just For saying, If you werent' selling it.....they couldn't do crap anyway. Could they...
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not sure if i understood your question.

but it will be illegal to posess after a ban if passed. even if you purchased it legally prior to the ban.

i'm just saying they aren't going to spend the effort and resources to try and enforce that.
 
Bravoboy said:
no disapointment here. Anyway, would if you kept your receipts to the stuff and just kept your stash. Any amount of bottles. Just For saying, If you werent' selling it.....they couldn't do crap anyway. Could they...
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If you have crack in your house but not selling it can they do anything to you ? That answers your question.
 
ReaperX said:
If you have crack in your house but not selling it can they do anything to you ? That answers your question.
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It is far from crack. Most of these steroids have labels on them that say "supplement facts:". I have never heard of a case of a person being arrested for possesing prohormones, "Pro-steroids". Please if you have seen this or heard of this let me know. I would love to see a link. I bet if you asked 500 cops what hdrol or pplex was...maybe 5 would know what the phuck you were talking about. Also 3 out of the 5 would be personal users.
 
Makes me wonder if they will ban TRT (test replacemnt therapy) some day. Damn...
 
This doesn't really bother me at all though. I don't use any of this crap anyway. I don't need to. All I need is to tighten up my diet and I can make gains just as well as anyone on these products. So why worry about this crap?. All you need is good food. Plus you don't have to deal with testosterone levels of of a pre-pubescent girl during pct!.

Not saying my diet is pefect, it needs plenty of work. I have had it almost perfect before though and have made gains comparable to people using these types of products. You reap what you sow.
 
He also went to a doctor about his gyno he got from his last cycle (10 weeks). The doctor was like, "Oh, I use P-Plex and I don't have gyno issues, what serm are you using ?"


ahhhhh....lol
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sweeeeeet
 
ReaperX said:
I've heard questionable things about the company Fast Action. My friend used their DMT clone before switching over to P-Plex by CEL. I heard that S-Drol by Fast Action sucks, but of course that is just hearsay.
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Which is exactly why I'm trying to get rid of them on ebay lol.

And to go with what everyone is saying, think about all the investigating people would have to do to know that you have a banned subject. I mean if you have it hidden in your closet, how is anyone going to even know you have it? On top of that, even if someone finds out you do, most people don't even know what it is? The odds of getting caught are so slim post ban. You'd have to go about it pretty stupidly...
 
ReaperX said:
I wouldn't be so sure. This is wishful thinking.

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This guy got busted over ten d-bol tablets.

It is more of a slam dunk to go after someone who dosen't have the funds to protect themselves. If anything, the average joe is a huge target to hit up.
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i just read that link.
that guy was buying d-bol from an undercover officer.
 
Brian5225 said:
Which is exactly why I'm trying to get rid of them on ebay lol.

And to go with what everyone is saying, think about all the investigating people would have to do to know that you have a banned subject. I mean if you have it hidden in your closet, how is anyone going to even know you have it? On top of that, even if someone finds out you do, most people don't even know what it is? The odds of getting caught are so slim post ban. You'd have to go about it pretty stupidly...
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This is what I was saying...just don't be stupid about it post ban. I see guys selling tons of M1T on various sites...that's being stupid IMO.
 
stxnas said:
This is what I was saying...just don't be stupid about it post ban. I see guys selling tons of M1T on various sites...that's being stupid IMO.
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Yes it most definately is. It's viewed as a controlled steroid, so selling it to someone you don't know is NOT smart. And even selling it to a close friend is commiting a felony, because now you're a drug dealer.
 
B5150 said:
This is SO four years ago. Been through this at least once.

You stock up, it will expire, you won't use it all and before you do there will be hundreds of new loop hole compliant products available for free to test and log here on the board :hammer:
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That is what I'm figuring. I don't go balls-deep into buying supps but enough to hopefully get me through until the next innovation...
 
Brian5225 said:
Yes it most definately is. It's viewed as a controlled steroid, so selling it to someone you don't know is NOT smart. And even selling it to a close friend is commiting a felony, because now you're a drug dealer.
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True...

Hell even now I just sell to my close friends...
 
T-Bone said:
This doesn't really bother me at all though. I don't use any of this crap anyway. I don't need to. All I need is to tighten up my diet and I can make gains just as well as anyone on these products. So why worry about this crap?. All you need is good food. Plus you don't have to deal with testosterone levels of of a pre-pubescent girl during pct!.
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Well, normally i'd agree with your posts; however, there are no Ron Coleman's, Lee Haney's, or Dorian Yates if not for oils and AAS. That's truth.
 
shotgun 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol then :) ......

Yo reaper, change your signature doesn't make sense bro...You do realise a lot of drag cars run nos right off the start line right???? bad example bro.... health and family history are far more important than wheather or not your already massive anyway...
 
ReaperX said:
I wouldn't be so sure. This is wishful thinking.

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This guy got busted over ten d-bol tablets.

It is more of a slam dunk to go after someone who dosen't have the funds to protect themselves. If anything, the average joe is a huge target to hit up.
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Reaper, law enforcement isn't concerned with the "little people" that are buying a few bottles of the stuff. The same goes for all the drug trafficing that goes on in this country. They're concerned with controlling the overall large scale distribution issue, not the small time guy that's buying it....
 
I guess...they're under the assumption that steroid users like us, obviously turn out like meth heads in due time. Yet, we try to reach optimal health at all times. Show me the stats on this. Most are successful people trying to add to their lives. I myself, want the American Dream, but with addition to looking better.
 
Brian5225 said:
Yeah, I tried to sell S-Drol by fast action pharma and it's been pulled several times from ebay even though it's not banned or discontinued or anything. There are even ebay stores selling it, and I've appealed it asking why they've pulled it even though it's obvious it's not illegal and other stores are selling it and they refuse to comment or reply...
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Similar thing happened to me with Methandrol-50, I think I got on a list or something now they watch my auctions like a hawk.
 
ReaperX said:
What stuff have you used in the past ?
He also went to a doctor about his gyno he got from his last cycle (10 weeks). The doctor was like, "Oh, I use P-Plex and I don't have gyno issues, what serm are you using ?"
ahhhhh....lol
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Where can I find a Doctor like this! Seriously.
He should have said "I dunno, what SERM are you going to prescribe me =)"
 
Bravoboy said:
no disapointment here. Anyway, would if you kept your receipts to the stuff and just kept your stash. Any amount of bottles. Just For saying, If you werent' selling it.....they couldn't do crap anyway. Could they...
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They could charge you with possession of a controlled substance.

There is no grandfather clause. If you possess it after the day the law becomes effective, you are committing a felony.
 
Get ready for some big sales!!
 
Trauma1 said:
Reaper, law enforcement isn't concerned with the "little people" that are buying a few bottles of the stuff. The same goes for all the drug trafficing that goes on in this country. They're concerned with controlling the overall large scale distribution issue, not the small time guy that's buying it....
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Well, if it's illegal then it is fair game. The only thing from that point is if they choose to persue it or not which is personal discretion.


My line of work (not DEA) for the government is also enforcement. Different inspectors cite different things, but if it is written in law it is fair game.


Most inspectors (at my office) skip past the small stuff and go after big citations, but I like to cite the small stuff myself.


There's no assumptions to make about the government at all when it comes to enforcement. If it a law, then that's that.


Occasionally companies will try to contest that our laws are unfair. As far as I know no one has actually won with that argument.

Ebay is probably the biggest/easiest mouse trap out there. How could you deny that you sold ? lol.
 
jrkarp said:
They could charge you with possession of a controlled substance.

There is no grandfather clause. If you possess it after the day the law becomes effective, you are committing a felony.
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This is correct. How you would get caught is beyond me, but once that law hits, it is fair game.
 
broken7 said:
Where can I find a Doctor like this! Seriously.
He should have said "I dunno, what SERM are you going to prescribe me =)"
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yeah it was hilarious. he said the doctor he visited was a bb'er although not old enough to do TRT on himself yet.
 
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