Natadrol and T-911 are pushing AE over the edge (sponsored)

Why I dont lift at my school

Some good and some bad today

good:
competing again 1/9 and with my weight where it is right now I should be in excellent shape to just drop water to make 198. Will be going raw in BP and DL, want to get better than 3rd like the last one :aargh:

bad:
training with my students at school. Downright sucks...Due to the weight differential that is used, it is as if I am constantly on stage being gawked at, which is friggin annoying. On top of that, the equipment is circa 1930 and I feel I need a tetnas (spelling?) shot when using it.

Chest:
Incline BP: 7 sets 275lbs 5 reps 3 sets @ 225lbs 12 reps
Incline Flys: 5 sets 70lbs

Shoulders:
Seated Press: 6 sets 185lbs 8 reps
BTN Press: 5 sets 135lbs sets of 10
Front shrugs: 5 sets 405lbs 7 reps
BTB shrugs: 5 sets 275lbs
Upright rows: 4 sets 135lbs

Felt very strong, pump was excellent
 
So the run is over on what 3-4 more days? Seems like it has been kicking in harder for everyone during this last week or so. How the boys boucning, still full? Do you feel like a PCT is going to be required or that it will just be a nice boost after?
 
So the run is over on what 3-4 more days? Seems like it has been kicking in harder for everyone during this last week or so. How the boys boucning, still full? Do you feel like a PCT is going to be required or that it will just be a nice boost after?

Run is over on Sunday. It has been a good week thus far, looking forward to killing it.

boys are bouncing and hanging in nicely. The T-911 is a nice bonus and I think will add in nicely
 
Yes, I am very curious if this actually causes shut down or just that LG was being nice and made sure you were taken care of incase due to the nature of the supp. If no shut down that would be awesome and almost a guarrantee for me to give it a shot.
 
Do you feel shutdown at all?

Yes, I am very curious if this actually causes shut down or just that LG was being nice and made sure you were taken care of incase due to the nature of the supp. If no shut down that would be awesome and almost a guarrantee for me to give it a shot.

not anywhere near where I have been when I was "on". There are days where I feel a bit more high and tight <lacking a better term>
 
Gotcha, sounds good. So if at all you would say only a mild pct, or maybe just run Resveratrol while on and be fine without?
 
Gotcha, sounds good. So if at all you would say only a mild pct, or maybe just run Resveratrol while on and be fine without?

Probably be fine with that. Are you able to use the compound found in T911 or Formadrol, or is that banned where you compete? - It's just a 7,8-benz derivative.

Edit: Natadrol + Res + Herbal test booster sounds like a nice stack.
 
Why reverse hypers are awesome

Just got back from the gym and really got to hit deads hard.

DL (8 sets) 455lbs 1 rep sets @315lbs
Supported T-Bar (5 sets) 3 45's 6-8 reps
Barn doors (5 sets) 110lbs
Reverse Hypers (5 sets) 20lbs db 10 reps
Seated Rows (4 sets) 210lbs
NG BTN pulldowns (4 sets) 180lbs

Felt great. The 455 felt relatively without issue. I was thrilled. Strength was up and energy was through the roof. I was flying home as I was so anxious to hit deads. Today gave me a great feeling heading towards competing on 1/9, especially since I will be doing deads then as well
 
Gotcha, sounds good. So if at all you would say only a mild pct, or maybe just run Resveratrol while on and be fine without?
Mild at best. I have not seen any signs of any real supression, especially compared to previous compounds that I have used.
Edit: Natadrol + Res + Herbal test booster sounds like a nice stack.

That does sound pretty good :hmmm:
 
2nd to last day

Just got back from leg day

Hip Adduction (5 sets) 110lbs
Hip Abduction (5 sets) 110lbs
Lying Hamstring curls (5 sets) 120lbs
Seated Ham curls (5 sets)110lbs
Leg Press (5 sets) 6 45's
DB Lunges (5 sets) 65lbs per

Felt great, will do an official write up tomorrow with final pics and all final thoughts
 
Great day to end the log

Just updated the photo on the 2nd page. Overall 4.5lbs. You guys can judge the leaness of the weight, but it looks pretty solid.

Here was my last chest tris day
Flat BP (10 sets) 305lbs 2 reps
Incline BP (8 sets) 3 sets @ 225lbs 7-9reps

Tris:
CG BP (6 sets) 225lbs 7 reps
2 arm DB Extensions (5 sets) 90lbs

Felt great, very pumped and very strong. Was pleased to be 208.5 this am fully dressed.

Per LG here is my comparison:
Superdrol: 10 Anabolic / 8 Sides
Epi/Havoc: 7 Anabolic/ 3 Sides
Furaz: 3 Anabolic / 0 Sides
1Andro: 5 Anabolic/ 2 Sides

Natadrol: 5 Anabolic/ 1 sides

The only side I found with Natadrol was the frequent urination. That seemed to dominate the majority of the 4 weeks. Outside of that, there is nothing but positives. My mood, appetite and lifts all made improvements. I really think LG might have a very special product here, and considering it is from Mother Nature's Cookbook, that makes it even more special.

I really appreciate the input and the opportunity. Thank you to LG and all those associated with LG, and thanks to all who followed along.
 
Great review brother. Did both bottles only last 4 weeks or are you doing a middle of the road after 4 weeks comparison but running it 8 weeks? I cant remember which is why im asking.

Great review though bro and im excited to try this stuff myself!
 
Great log and review my man! That is one thing I love about LG products they work well with low sides. You might not get S-Drol type gains, but you should get solid, maintainable gains.
 
Dropping body fat and adding muscle....that's a win,win right there!! Is 4 weeks the recommended max for this or is a longer cycle possible? Would increasing the dose also be viable? Just curious here. It seems like a mild substance as far as sides are concerned. Great log champ!!
 
Dropping body fat and adding muscle....that's a win,win right there!! Is 4 weeks the recommended max for this or is a longer cycle possible? Would increasing the dose also be viable? Just curious here. It seems like a mild substance as far as sides are concerned. Great log champ!!

Thanks my friend. From what I was told, it seems that 6 total per day were the max recommended. However, I am not sure if increasing the dose would create a beneficial situation. I will defer to the LG guys on this
 
Dropping body fat and adding muscle....that's a win,win right there!! Is 4 weeks the recommended max for this or is a longer cycle possible? Would increasing the dose also be viable? Just curious here. It seems like a mild substance as far as sides are concerned. Great log champ!!

Thanks my friend. From what I was told, it seems that 6 total per day were the max recommended. However, I am not sure if increasing the dose would create a beneficial situation. I will defer to the LG guys on this

You can most certainly go longer than 4 weeks. As far as increasing the dosage, well, I'm sure you could, but what you're really trying to do is achieve the greatest gains with the least amount of sides. Increasing the dosage may tip the scale in the wrong direction, although, we haven't seen any negative sides on this yet. It's still very new. A higher dose is definitely possible. We'll see what the future holds.

This stuff is very mild, but potent. Eric says it may be slightly suppressive which is why PCT is recommended, and it can have some of the same sides as any other androgen, but by no means do I see this really being a toxic product. It's called "Natadrol" for a reason. A mild PCT at best. I see no issue running it for 8 weeks, and possibly even longer. I'll talk to Eric about it as I'm sure he knows more.

AE, have you taken PRIME? How would you compare this to the first four weeks you were on PRIME? - I for one didn't see much from PRIME until Week 4, and while the strength gains are real nice after that, I just really can't justify the cost, especially considering the loading phase. Not to mention I just don't get that Alpha feel on PRIME that people sometimes report. - How about mood on Natadrol v. PRIME? - The questions are contingent; this all only applies if you've used PRIME.
 
Great log and review my man! That is one thing I love about LG products they work well with low sides. You might not get S-Drol type gains, but you should get solid, maintainable gains.

Def agree! That is why I :love: LG products too. Solid products that give me good gains. Never have neg sides and mild PCT is a ++.
 
You can most certainly go longer than 4 weeks. As far as increasing the dosage, well, I'm sure you could, but what you're really trying to do is achieve the greatest gains with the least amount of sides. Increasing the dosage may tip the scale in the wrong direction, although, we haven't seen any negative sides on this yet. It's still very new. A higher dose is definitely possible. We'll see what the future holds.

This stuff is very mild, but potent. Eric says it may be slightly suppressive which is why PCT is recommended, and it can have some of the same sides as any other androgen, but by no means do I see this really being a toxic product. It's called "Natadrol" for a reason. A mild PCT at best. I see no issue running it for 8 weeks, and possibly even longer. I'll talk to Eric about it as I'm sure he knows more.

AE, have you taken PRIME? How would you compare this to the first four weeks you were on PRIME? - I for one didn't see much from PRIME until Week 4, and while the strength gains are real nice after that, I just really can't justify the cost, especially considering the loading phase. Not to mention I just don't get that Alpha feel on PRIME that people sometimes report. - How about mood on Natadrol v. PRIME? - The questions are contingent; this all only applies if you've used PRIME.

Unfortunately never used Prime. I would be interested to see how it compares however, as I was very pleased with Natadrol overall. I will also be interested to see what the pricing is on ND, as if priced correctly, could really offer a viable alternative to quite a few other natty products on the market
 
I wouldn't exceed the 6 capsule dose, since I am not sure it would be that effective. Considering your experience with PH's it seems like this is exactly what we figured it would be. No, it's not a superdrol but it does work above some of the more reasonable prohormones like 11-OXO, Boldione etc...
 
Nice review AE, glad to have followed along.
 
Great final review, really like the comparison!! Great work man! Thanks!

//CC
 
Libido was excellent, one of the strongest libido boosters I have tried. The only one that had a greater "punch" was T-Force

T-911 has been as good as advertised. Only side has been slight acne, but that is meaningless. Strength is up, weight has dropped a little but nothing too noteworthy
 
sweet deal, cant wait till this hits the market. People are going to go batty for it
 
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How are the strength gains on Natadrol? Thats what i want to hear about.

The 4 pack deal was a no brainer, so i bought it. Looks like i will have an xtra bottle to unload, as 3 bottles run 8 weeks. Im sure that wont be a problem.

FWIW, I responded to Prime and will run it again. Like mentioned earlier, it took awhile to load up, but once it did, i was happy with the gains. For me, strength gains did fall off after cycle. Im curious as to how this product compares to the labs flagship.
 
How are the strength gains on Natadrol? Thats what i want to hear about.

The 4 pack deal was a no brainer, so i bought it. Looks like i will have an xtra bottle to unload, as 3 bottles run 8 weeks. Im sure that wont be a problem.

FWIW, I responded to Prime and will run it again. Like mentioned earlier, it took awhile to load up, but once it did, i was happy with the gains. For me, strength gains did fall off after cycle. Im curious as to how this product compares to the labs flagship.

From the logs I have read so far (only 1 other than this one) I personally got better results using Prime but that varies from person to person. I am thinking this may be a good thing to stack with Prime as Prime is non-hormonal.
 
I saw fairly decent gains throughout my run with Natadrol. I was quite pleased with it
 
How did u gains seem to be coming along at the end? Since u had a 4 week run and LG is suggesting a 6 week cycle.
 
interesting your weight gains, because jdg ran it and he gained alot more. i think he started at 203 and near the end was weighing in at like 212. now his profile says 215 so i dunno.
 
interesting your weight gains, because jdg ran it and he gained alot more. i think he started at 203 and near the end was weighing in at like 212. now his profile says 215 so i dunno.

everybody responed differently I suppose. I am certainly a fan as I did find nice strnegth and solid weight gain.
 
I saw fairly decent gains throughout my run with Natadrol. I was quite pleased with it

I can see that, I am just trying to ascertain whether the juice is worth the squeeze, there are altenatives out there that I get just as good a results with without any shutdown whatsoever. I would have to see more from this one before I would use it. You understand where I am coming from though, if this does not out perform current natural products then it doesn't make much sense. Maybe you just didn't have a really strong response. Unforturately there were only 2 logs that went to completion.
 
I can see that, I am just trying to ascertain whether the juice is worth the squeeze, there are altenatives out there that I get just as good a results with without any shutdown whatsoever. I would have to see more from this one before I would use it. You understand where I am coming from though, if this does not out perform current natural products then it doesn't make much sense. Maybe you just didn't have a really strong response. Unforturately there were only 2 logs that went to completion.

Keep in mind too that AE only ran it for 4 weeks. I recommend a full 6-8 week cycle. - Additionally, AE has quite a bit of past hormonal experience. If you have a small history (I don't know if you do or not), then it will most likely be more effective on you.

I personally feel that Natadrol and Prime would work very well together. I know you enjoy Prime, so I think that would be a great stack for you, but I think it would be wise to use ND by itself the first time to judge the effectiveness.
 
Keep in mind too that AE only ran it for 4 weeks. I recommend a full 6-8 week cycle. - Additionally, AE has quite a bit of past hormonal experience. If you have a small history (I don't know if you do or not), then it will most likely be more effective on you.

I personally feel that Natadrol and Prime would work very well together. I know you enjoy Prime, so I think that would be a great stack for you, but I think it would be wise to use ND by itself the first time to judge the effectiveness.

This is my plan and I am with DW in regards to natural supps like Prime; both of us had great results with it. That being said, my plan is to run Natadrol 6 weeks, maybe 8 (just depends), and then do T-911 along with Prime and AP as my PCT for another 6 weeks. Most likely this will be fairly ridiculous in regards to packing on the lean mass and increasing strength. I have not heard (or read for that matter) much about the recomp effects of Natadrol. I am curious how it works compared to Prime/test boosters (TestpPro as an example)/and pro-hormones like Tren. If you can shed some light on that IC I would appreciate it; saves me some time reading pages of logs.
 
Keep in mind too that AE only ran it for 4 weeks. I recommend a full 6-8 week cycle. - Additionally, AE has quite a bit of past hormonal experience. If you have a small history (I don't know if you do or not), then it will most likely be more effective on you.

I personally feel that Natadrol and Prime would work very well together. I know you enjoy Prime, so I think that would be a great stack for you, but I think it would be wise to use ND by itself the first time to judge the effectiveness.

Yah I agree... if I ran it I would want to stack it with Prime but would be hard to judge it and know how to stack it, if I didn't run it individually.

Yah 4 weeks is not a long run and a lot depends on how fast it kicks in. Not to worry if it's a good product it will all come out in the wash. More logs will be forthcoming.
 
This is my plan and I am with DW in regards to natural supps like Prime; both of us had great results with it. That being said, my plan is to run Natadrol 6 weeks, maybe 8 (just depends), and then do T-911 along with Prime and AP as my PCT for another 6 weeks. Most likely this will be fairly ridiculous in regards to packing on the lean mass and increasing strength. I have not heard (or read for that matter) much about the recomp effects of Natadrol. I am curious how it works compared to Prime/test boosters (TestpPro as an example)/and pro-hormones like Tren. If you can shed some light on that IC I would appreciate it; saves me some time reading pages of logs.

This will be a good test...
 
This is my plan and I am with DW in regards to natural supps like Prime; both of us had great results with it. That being said, my plan is to run Natadrol 6 weeks, maybe 8 (just depends), and then do T-911 along with Prime and AP as my PCT for another 6 weeks. Most likely this will be fairly ridiculous in regards to packing on the lean mass and increasing strength. I have not heard (or read for that matter) much about the recomp effects of Natadrol. I am curious how it works compared to Prime/test boosters (TestpPro as an example)/and pro-hormones like Tren. If you can shed some light on that IC I would appreciate it; saves me some time reading pages of logs.

The recomp is pretty strong from Natadrol from what I can tell, and the weight gain seems to be good, and appears that it would only get better with time. I've only seen guys running it for 4 weeks, and we all know that that's a pretty short amount of time for something like this.

In comparison with Prime, I can say this...Prime gives me one thing: Strength. - I don't see recomp, fat loss, or anything else, but I see great improvement in strength. I've dosed Prime from 6 caps/day to 10 caps/day. I've discovered that 6/day does just as much as 10/day for me. I believe this is where the synergism is. Now, Prime seems to level off in the strength department, but it doesn't go down, and that's fine. If it boosts my strength and stays at that level, I'll obviously be growing more quickly due to the extended period of time I can lift extra weight. - I believe Natadrol is where the bodyweight, recomposition, and drying effects will come from, along with moderate strength gains, yet I believe adding Prime will cover the entire spectrum.

I've ran T911 and TestoPRO before which was awesome, but things were up and down. Natadrol seems much more stable and would definitely benefit you further...But adding TestoPRO to a T911 PCT for ND would be awesome. TestoPRO is great stuff.
 
In terms of recomp, take a look at my before and after pics. granted the weight gain was roughly 4lbs, but I certainly was a tad leaner with that gain
 
AE, did you feel shutdown at all? I am just wondering what an 8 week run would do.
 
In terms of recomp, take a look at my before and after pics. granted the weight gain was roughly 4lbs, but I certainly was a tad leaner with that gain

Yah recomp looks good, I get great recomp from Prime also so I am thinking that would be about the same for me. The most attractive thing with the Natodrol is the lessening of water retention which would make it good for a prep but then there's the shutdown. I don't know how I'd time it.
 
Yah recomp looks good, I get great recomp from Prime also so I am thinking that would be about the same for me. The most attractive thing with the Natodrol is the lessening of water retention which would make it good for a prep but then there's the shutdown. I don't know how I'd time it.
Suppression is a better term, as ND won't completely shut you down. It's really quite mild on your system, and the reason PCT is recommended is just to restore T-levels to optimal/maximum.
 
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