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Good supplement for cutting??

GTO4me

GTO4me

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Hey guys I have a question. What is the best supplements to support a fairly quick cut? Looking at OEP and AT2. Here's my stats.

5'8"

212lbs

27% bf

Bench 310
deadlift. 360
Squat. 410

I've got my diet in check and have a good training routine going. I would just like to start leaning up for spring. I realize it's kinda early but I've got a nice vacation on the beach coming up! Any help??
 
GTO4me said:
Hey guys I have a question. What is the best supplements to support a fairly quick cut? Looking at OEP and AT2. Here's my stats.

5'8"

212lbs

27% bf

Bench 310
deadlift. 360
Squat. 410

I've got my diet in check and have a good training routine going. I would just like to start leaning up for spring. I realize it's kinda early but I've got a nice vacation on the beach coming up! Any help??
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Iforce makes something called dexaprine which I really like. Really strong though and I'm pretty sure it had 1,3 dime. Which is a strong stimulant. But if you live stims like I do then you'll love dexaprine ;)
 
mattrag said:
Iforce makes something called dexaprine which I really like. Really strong though and I'm pretty sure it had 1,3 dime. Which is a strong stimulant. But if you live stims like I do then you'll love dexaprine ;)
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Although dexaprime is good; id suggest opting for tt33 which is a non-stim, metabolic enhancer for the moment as OPs bodyfat is fairly high. A lot can be done with a good diet and non-stim fat burners. Save the stims for when non-stims stop working imo.
 
At 27% any supp is going to have a very minimal (if any) impact on fat loss. You said yourself that you have plenty of time before your vacation so just concentrate on losing the fat slowly with a slight calorie defecit diet and increased cardio.

Save you money for supps once you get below 20% or even 15% BF as you will notice get more from them at a lower BF level.
 
warsteiner said:
At 27% any supp is going to have a very minimal (if any) impact on fat loss. You said yourself that you have plenty of time before your vacation so just concentrate on losing the fat slowly with a slight calorie defecit diet and increased cardio.

Save you money for supps once you get below 20% or even 15% BF as you will notice get more from them at a lower BF level.
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i 100% agree with this guy, again 100% what i would have said.
 
GTO4me said:
Hey guys I have a question. What is the best supplements to support a fairly quick cut? Looking at OEP and AT2. Here's my stats.

5'8"

212lbs

27% bf

Bench 310
deadlift. 360
Squat. 410

I've got my diet in check and have a good training routine going. I would just like to start leaning up for spring. I realize it's kinda early but I've got a nice vacation on the beach coming up! Any help??
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A solid stack, but if you want to drop weight FAST your diet is where you need to turn to first. Its never too early to start shedding off the pounds
 
warsteiner said:
At 27% any supp is going to have a very minimal (if any) impact on fat loss. You said yourself that you have plenty of time before your vacation so just concentrate on losing the fat slowly with a slight calorie defecit diet and increased cardio.

Save you money for supps once you get below 20% or even 15% BF as you will notice get more from them at a lower BF level.
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very solid advice here.once you have lost a good deal of weight.I'd look into what others have suggested as far as supplements.

I believe you would do well on n2burn ,need 2 slin or forged burner.
 
GTO4me said:
Hey guys I have a question. What is the best supplements to support a fairly quick cut? Looking at OEP and AT2. Here's my stats.

5'8"

212lbs

27% bf

Bench 310
deadlift. 360
Squat. 410

I've got my diet in check and have a good training routine going. I would just like to start leaning up for spring. I realize it's kinda early but I've got a nice vacation on the beach coming up! Any help??
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Im confused and not to sound like a jerk, but how do you have your diet in check?
 
thestein1016 said:
Im confused and not to sound like a jerk, but how do you have your diet in check?
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Could mean uber low calories
 
Oxyelite pro, finaflex PX 500-xt and lipo 6
 
I would diet down a bit then add in some supplements to help assist you. You have a long stretch don't try to get it done quickly.
 
MM11 said:
I would diet down a bit then add in some supplements to help assist you. You have a long stretch don't try to get it done quickly.
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I agree...no sugar, no alcohol, no soda and eat less carbs...and drink plenty of water...do cardio atleast an hour...
 
punjabimunde said:
I agree...no sugar, no alcohol, no soda and eat less carbs...and drink plenty of water...do cardio atleast an hour...
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The only problem
I have out of those 2 is cardio and carbs haha
 
Carbs are the main thing if you wanna lose weight...coz when you do cardio ur body burns carbs first then fat...if you don't eat carbs then the body gonna burn more fat..
 
punjabimunde said:
Carbs are the main thing if you wanna lose weight...coz when you do cardio ur body burns carbs first then fat...if you don't eat carbs then the body gonna burn more fat..
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Makes sense it's just hard to do haha
 
punjabimunde said:
Lol yea...
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For me it is...
Guess that's where a good GDA can come into place?
 
Erase/AlphaT-2/TitaniumXL stack will be nice for a good natty cut stack.

Little bit of Slin Sane never hurt either :D
 
punjabimunde said:
I agree...no sugar, no alcohol, no soda and eat less carbs...and drink plenty of water...do cardio atleast an hour...
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And 1hr cardio is going to send ur test levels to the floor. HIIT @20mins max. Better and builds muscle too..less catabolism
 
JudgementDay said:
Erase/AlphaT-2/TitaniumXL stack will be nice for a good natty cut stack.

Little bit of Slin Sane never hurt either :D
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Recompadrol with ur stack JD... Big :)
 
runner_79 said:
And 1hr cardio is going to send ur test levels to the floor. HIIT @20mins max. Better and builds muscle too..less catabolism
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Agreed 20min max! Long distance running kills testosterone, also have been reading a lot lately how it's very unhealthy on the heart. Marathon runners don't live long......
 
runner_79 said:
And 1hr cardio is going to send ur test levels to the floor. HIIT @20mins max. Better and builds muscle too..less catabolism
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Depends on time of day/ empty stomach/ and whether he does it after a workout.

Morning
Empty stomach with 10-15g BCAA's = treamill with speed 4-5 on incline 7 or 8
Or HIIT for 20 minutes with somewhere around a 1:2 or 1:3 ratio

After workout
20 minutes on treadmill with speed 4-5 on incline 7 or 8
I dont think HIIT would be good after a workout

Night
Treadmill 30-45 min with speed 4-5 on incline 7 or 8
HIIT 25-35 min with 1:2 or 1:3 ratio

These are what works for me (and are just my opinion)
 
runner_79 said:
And 1hr cardio is going to send ur test levels to the floor. HIIT @20mins max. Better and builds muscle too..less catabolism
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This, all day.

Also, don't underestimate the amount of calories a hard lifting session can burn either. Nice stack, btw.
 
J19891 said:
This, all day.

Also, don't underestimate the amount of calories a hard lifting session can burn either. Nice stack, btw.
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Thanks...
I have to work out how to increase carb intake of sweet potato due to my training taking a beating at low low carb and my high output at running 3:45min a km, kills me... How can I have more carbs (still say at a deficit) but not bloat and get fat?
 
runner_79 said:
Thanks...
I have to work out how to increase carb intake of sweet potato due to my training taking a beating at low low carb and my high output at running 3:45min a km, kills me... How can I have more carbs (still say at a deficit) but not bloat and get fat?
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If we could answer the we'd all be shredded lol. I would just try to get some pre workout. But for fasted training I would try blending it or making it liquid lol.
 
mattrag said:
If we could answer the we'd all be shredded lol. I would just try to get some pre workout. But for fasted training I would try blending it or making it liquid lol.
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I guess smart post workout nutrition is where it's at
 
runner_79 said:
I guess smart post workout nutrition is where it's at
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Yup. That's where it's at :)

I think Alcar and some gda type supp is best for fat burning really. :)
 
mattrag said:
Yup. That's where it's at :)

I think Alcar and some gda type supp is best for fat burning really. :)
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Post workout?
Good GDA????like?
 
runner_79 said:
Post workout?
Good GDA????like?
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The info on berberine that has popped up on this forum over the past couple days is golden. Ppar and ampk pathways. Look into those. Increase fat burning enzymes in the intestine. Ssbackwards is the man for that. ;)
 
mattrag said:
The info on berberine that has popped up on this forum over the past couple days is golden. Ppar and ampk pathways. Look into those. Increase fat burning enzymes in the intestine. Ssbackwards is the man for that. ;)
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In other words, get RECOMPADROL lol...
Anabeta is a GDA per se, so how would anabolic pump go instead?how to take it hmmmm
 
Never tried recompadrol but glycobol is really weak. Anabolic pump was amazing for me. As well as yellow gold.
Next up for me is need2slin. Should be here in a couple days. ;)
 
dude you could probably cut a lot of you ran an epistane cycle and like just watched your carbs etc.
 
mattrag said:
Never tried recompadrol but glycobol is really weak. Anabolic pump was amazing for me. As well as yellow gold.
Next up for me is need2slin. Should be here in a couple days. ;)
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How u do AP?Take it before fasted sprints? Tomorrow is a fun run 2.5km sprint for Australia day fundraising. Thoughts?
I got some Nutra ALA coming. I wanna get n2slin but pricey........
 
Masciaman said:
dude you could probably cut a lot of you ran an epistane cycle and like just watched your carbs etc.
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I'm only 22. Too young
 
young but not too young. they say over 21 and i know its best like 25+ but epistane is extremely mild with very little sides..just saying
 
Masciaman said:
young but not too young. they say over 21 and i know its best like 25+ but epistane is extremely mild with very little sides..just saying
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Everyone will give me sh1t on here for contemplating it...I'll let others chime in and help me out
 
runner_79 said:
How u do AP?Take it before fasted sprints? Tomorrow is a fun run 2.5km sprint for Australia day fundraising. Thoughts?
I got some Nutra ALA coming. I wanna get n2slin but pricey........
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I would take it before meals. Never tried it fasted yet. But I felt it.
 
runner_79 said:
Everyone will give me sh1t on here for contemplating it...I'll let others chime in and help me out
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I did my first ph at 25. Only thing you gotta realize is once you start... It's hard to stop. And the gains will never be the same.
 
mattrag said:
I did my first ph at 25. Only thing you gotta realize is once you start... It's hard to stop. And the gains will never be the same.
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My running is always going to be a backseat passion. It's all about looking good right now. Aesthetic appease!!!!
I started too late to project towards a top level. Run for fun now. Love soccer and could play a decent level.
Ultimate goal: lean mean shredded machine... Bit bigger version of Tyler durton hahah

Mixture Ryan Reynolds/Christian bale in Batman and brad pitt in fight club
 
runner_79 said:
My running is always going to be a backseat passion. It's all about looking good right now. Aesthetic appease!!!!
I started too late to project towards a top level. Run for fun now. Love soccer and could play a decent level.
Ultimate goal: lean mean shredded machine... Bit bigger version of Tyler durton hahah

Mixture Ryan Reynolds/Christian bale in Batman and brad pitt in fight club
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In that case you have come to the right place. ;)
 
haha ya bro in the end its all about what you want to do and what you will do to get there just be smart about it :P endless amounts of info on this board
 
mattrag said:
In that case you have come to the right place. ;)
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:)
Why I ask you Matty. You are effing beast bro
 
thestein1016 said:
Im confused and not to sound like a jerk, but how do you have your diet in check?
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Well I've really cut my carbs almost to nothing. I've been taking in about 125-150g protein a day. Nothing but water. I know how to drop the weight I'm just looking for something to make it faster. I'm hitting the beach in early March and I really want to cut up! I really don't care what it takes!! I just don't want some crap that's not gonna work. Im meeting a chick when I go to Costa Rica and I want to look nice! Know what I mean bro?
 
Practically zero carbs and 150g protein is a recipe for muscle loss and not fat loss. Unless you are taking in a lot of fats you're going to be lucky to be getting 1000 cals per day. Stick with that diet until early March and you will look skinny-fat rather than toned with a decent amount of muscle.

Post your diet and we can tweak it for you so you lose fat and not muscle.
 
GTO4me said:
Well I've really cut my carbs almost to nothing. I've been taking in about 125-150g protein a day. Nothing but water. I know how to drop the weight I'm just looking for something to make it faster. I'm hitting the beach in early March and I really want to cut up! I really don't care what it takes!! I just don't want some crap that's not gonna work. Im meeting a chick when I go to Costa Rica and I want to look nice! Know what I mean bro?
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As the guy above me said, your diet is horribly mismanaged.

What is your caloric maintenance? Take that number and subtract 10-20% to create a deficit.

Within that deficit, get:

1g protein/lb BW
0.45g fat/lb BW
The rest in carbs
 
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