Finally. THE BLR PRE WORKOUT THREAD. New product leaks

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Can I ask a silly question, but who in this thread reps for BLR? Do reps not have to put it in their signature anymore?

I pass through this thread about once every 2 weeks and any person who has a question or is asking for any update gets jumped on by 5 different posters. And it only happens in these BLR threads. This kind of stuff makes me never want to deal with this company because of its "reps". I like BLR and I like that he has innovative products and I am genuinely curious as to what he has up his sleeve for this one since its such a saturated market.

But this pitchfork and torch crowd mentality is super toxic and all you are doing is driving anyway anyone on the fringe of wanting to support this company. A rep should be there to be positive and answer peoples questions in a polite manor, not constantly fighting and talking down to people. Isn't this a forum where we are trying to learn and support one another?

And again anyone who would like to say I bash BLR please find 1 post of me bashing this company? I will wait
Thank you for saying that!!!! That's why I didn't respond after my last post got bashed by a rep even after I said I LOVE BLR products and that I WILL buy the pre when it comes out. It's like if you don't praise everything they say, you get bashed even if its a legitimate concern. I never trashed BLR and I was told I was calling them liars even though I never said that. All I'm saying is they get extremely defensive which says a LOT in itself!!! Many other companies on this board that treat the people who are spending their hard-earned money on their products with much more respect....and watch, I'll probably get bashed for this post too.
 
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Thank you for saying that!!!! That's why I didn't respond after my last post got bashed by a rep even after I said I LOVE BLR products and that I WILL buy the pre when it comes out. It's like if you don't praise everything they say, you get bashed even if its a legitimate concern. I never trashed BLR and I was told I was calling them liars even though I never said that. All I'm saying is they get extremely defensive which says a LOT in itself!!! Many other companies on this board that treat the people who are spending their hard-earned money on their products with much more respect....and watch, I'll probably get bashed for this post too.
Can you please quote a BLR rep that was mean, or bashed another user on AM? I'm curious. Because to my knowlege, none of the reps were mean. There are some users that are not reps responding. And if we could add our own signatures, we would, so that we can be transparent. When one makes a claim, such as, reps are mean, bashing others, defensive, it should be substantiated. One can click on our profile, including @brundel himself, and see every thread we start, and how we respond in every reply. We certainly do not want to misrepresent Brundel, his company, or even ourselves.
 
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Thank you for saying that!!!! That's why I didn't respond after my last post got bashed by a rep even after I said I LOVE BLR products and that I WILL buy the pre when it comes out. It's like if you don't praise everything they say, you get bashed even if its a legitimate concern. I never trashed BLR and I was told I was calling them liars even though I never said that. All I'm saying is they get extremely defensive which says a LOT in itself!!! Many other companies on this board that treat the people who are spending their hard-earned money on their products with much more respect....and watch, I'll probably get bashed for this post too.
I too would like to know who was bashing anyone? Im simply asking, so going forward this can be fixed or addressed.

I know I was responding quite a lot and never want to come off as disrespecting anyone, I just thought I was responding to questions about why it was delayed, certainly wasn’t trying to be defensive.

With that said, some of those responding are not reps for the company, just members responding in the thread.
 
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Can I ask a silly question, but who in this thread reps for BLR? Do reps not have to put it in their signature anymore?

I pass through this thread about once every 2 weeks and any person who has a question or is asking for any update gets jumped on by 5 different posters. And it only happens in these BLR threads. This kind of stuff makes me never want to deal with this company because of its "reps". I like BLR and I like that he has innovative products and I am genuinely curious as to what he has up his sleeve for this one since its such a saturated market.

But this pitchfork and torch crowd mentality is super toxic and all you are doing is driving anyway anyone on the fringe of wanting to support this company. A rep should be there to be positive and answer peoples questions in a polite manor, not constantly fighting and talking down to people. Isn't this a forum where we are trying to learn and support one another?

And again anyone who would like to say I bash BLR please find 1 post of me bashing this company? I will wait
Rep here. (It's in my signature)
It looks like a lot of reps 'jumped on' to help out. lol. j/k. Ahem... :)

Don't take this the wrong way, but if you have an issue with a rep or an answer given by a group, the best thing to do is address it in the following way:

Some suggestions:
1. Contact page at http://www.blacklionresearch.com and give a link to the page here and post number in question.
2. If it is truly harassing, contact admin with link
3. DM @brundel on here with your concern

From a personal perspective that aligns with your thoughts and desires, re-iterating what others have stated.
"I'd like to know myself", but not here. This is something to take private and can certainly be addressed. If anyone gets heated, it's from passion, and a simple apology from one's perception is all that is necessary.

We're all very excited about the new products coming out, and you hit the nail with a saturated market it's difficult to outline a product that has novel ingredients that make a difference from the usual what is expected.

Hence the delay.
All my best,
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*If any reps need some help editing their signature, let me know and I'll put together a quick tutorial.
Actually, it's so darned easy! lol. Select your name above right, and click on the signature.

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Rep here. (It's in my signature)
It looks like a lot of reps 'jumped on' to help out. lol. j/k. Ahem... :)

Don't take this the wrong way, but if you have an issue with a rep or an answer given by a group, the best thing to do is address it in the following way:

Some suggestions:
1. Contact page at http://www.blacklionresearch.com and give a link to the page here and post number in question.
2. If it is truly harassing, contact admin with link
3. DM @brundel on here with your concern

From a personal perspective that aligns with your thoughts and desires, re-iterating what others have stated.
"I'd like to know myself", but not here. This is something to take private and can certainly be addressed. If anyone gets heated, it's from passion, and a simple apology from one's perception is all that is necessary.

We're all very excited about the new products coming out, and you hit the nail with a saturated market it's difficult to outline a product that has novel ingredients that make a difference from the usual what is expected.

Hence the delay.
All my best,
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*If any reps need some help editing their signature, let me know and I'll put together a quick tutorial.
Actually, it's so darned easy! lol. Select your name above right, and click on the signature.

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I got excited for a second. I am missing that option when I click my user profile.
 
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Rep here. (It's in my signature)
It looks like a lot of reps 'jumped on' to help out. lol. j/k. Ahem... :)

Don't take this the wrong way, but if you have an issue with a rep or an answer given by a group, the best thing to do is address it in the following way:

Some suggestions:
1. Contact page at http://www.blacklionresearch.com and give a link to the page here and post number in question.
2. If it is truly harassing, contact admin with link
3. DM @brundel on here with your concern

From a personal perspective that aligns with your thoughts and desires, re-iterating what others have stated.
"I'd like to know myself", but not here. This is something to take private and can certainly be addressed. If anyone gets heated, it's from passion, and a simple apology from one's perception is all that is necessary.

We're all very excited about the new products coming out, and you hit the nail with a saturated market it's difficult to outline a product that has novel ingredients that make a difference from the usual what is expected.

Hence the delay.
All my best,
M


*If any reps need some help editing their signature, let me know and I'll put together a quick tutorial.
Actually, it's so darned easy! lol. Select your name above right, and click on the signature.

View attachment 185093

Awesome!

I swear when I checked and rechecked and checked again that was never there lol.
 

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First, I didnt know who was a rep ITT so it makes it very hard to determine whom you are talking with in regards to this company. Now that is cleared up it will make it easier.

I am also not going to call any of you out or make some complaint on some other website. I am a grown adult and dont need any admin or others intervening in my issues, I vote with my $$$. You piss me off or act like a jerk and its real simple, I am done doing business with you.

The reason I even mention anything is I do like BLR actually and want to see him and his company do well. But you guys need to dial back the intensity a bit and be more interactive with your fanbase in positive manner. The way you currently handle questions and criticisms is very off putting to me and makes me not want to deal with BLR to be honest. Thats my 2 cents and my opinion, take it or leave it. But there seem to be a few others ITT who feel the same way so maybe its time to open your eyes
 
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First, I didnt know who was a rep ITT so it makes it very hard to determine whom you are talking with in regards to this company. Now that is cleared up it will make it easier.

I am also not going to call any of you out or make some complaint on some other website. I am a grown adult and dont need any admin or others intervening in my issues, I vote with my $$$. You piss me off or act like a jerk and its real simple, I am done doing business with you.

The reason I even mention anything is I do like BLR actually and want to see him and his company do well. But you guys need to dial back the intensity a bit and be more interactive with your fanbase in positive manner. The way you currently handle questions and criticisms is very off putting to me and makes me not want to deal with BLR to be honest. Thats my 2 cents and my opinion, take it or leave it. But there seem to be a few others ITT who feel the same way so maybe its time to open your eyes
Going forward, we will be more mindful of responses. Our intent is to be gracious and respectful.
 
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It's probably me their referring to, but I am not a rep for BLR or anyone for that matter. It's just extremely annoying when people keep crying about stuff that is clearly out of someone's control. Brundel's integrity has been questioned, his reps have been questioned, and the company has been questioned simply because it's taking long than expected to release a product. It's egregious. However, I still don't see where I attacked or bashed anyone. If anything people are coming to BLR's defense for the bashing coming from the people complaining they can't share their opinions. You can share an opinion, but its not cool to turn around and say brundel is lying about delays and the people he work with are crap so it reflects on the company. That won't be acceptable in ANY company thread
 
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Thank you for saying that!!!! That's why I didn't respond after my last post got bashed by a rep even after I said I LOVE BLR products and that I WILL buy the pre when it comes out. It's like if you don't praise everything they say, you get bashed even if its a legitimate concern. I never trashed BLR and I was told I was calling them liars even though I never said that. All I'm saying is they get extremely defensive which says a LOT in itself!!! Many other companies on this board that treat the people who are spending their hard-earned money on their products with much more respect....and watch, I'll probably get bashed for this post too.
I’m a rep but I hope I don’t come off mean.
 
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WOW! Why did Bagofturdwind’s comment from yesterday get deleted. He just backed up mine and carguy123’s feelings. Now that is some shady ****! We all read what he said, there was not any bashing at all but just because he called out reps and their attitudes and backed us up, his comment gets deleted. Now I’m not going to be quite an longer. BLR, that was extremely shady!!!! I really don’t get this company, you make great products so you’re already ahead of most companies yet you treat your customers like they are enemies. Makes me think twice about your ethics!
The only ones that can remove comments are himself (poster of comment), and the admin.
 
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The only ones that can remove comments are himself (poster of comment), and the admin.
I sure as heck didn’t delete it. I didn’t say anything remotely controversial either. I just decided to pop in to shed light upon the mob mentality some reps have - didn’t bash the product or slow manufacturing of it at all. I personally don’t care if this takes 9 years.
 
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I sure as heck didn’t delete it. I didn’t say anything remotely controversial either. I just decided to pop in to shed light upon the mob mentality some reps have - didn’t bash the product or slow manufacturing of it at all. I personally don’t care if this takes 9 years.
Not sure what happened then since a basic member of AM does not have the ability to delete others comments.
 
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WOW! Why did Bagofturdwind’s comment from yesterday get deleted. He just backed up mine and carguy123’s feelings. Now that is some shady ****! We all read what he said, there was not any bashing at all but just because he called out reps and their attitudes and backed us up, his comment gets deleted. Now I’m not going to be quite an longer. BLR, that was extremely shady!!!! I really don’t get this company, you make great products so you’re already ahead of most companies yet you treat your customers like they are enemies. Makes me think twice about your ethics!
BLR or it’s reps have zero ability to delete comments like VT stated. Admin and commenter of said post are the only 2.
 
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@Admin do you know what might have happened? Possibly working on the site bc I think there were a couple that disappeared?
 
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WOW! Why did Bagofturdwind’s comment from yesterday get deleted. He just backed up mine and carguy123’s feelings. Now that is some shady ****! We all read what he said, there was not any bashing at all but just because he called out reps and their attitudes and backed us up, his comment gets deleted. Now I’m not going to be quite an longer. BLR, that was extremely shady!!!! I really don’t get this company, you make great products so you’re already ahead of most companies yet you treat your customers like they are enemies. Makes me think twice about your ethics!

Because bashing reps in their forum isn't going to be allowed my me. If you don't like it, you can leave.

And I just removed that one as well....see how shady I can get?
 
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Offredjo'a post is exactly what im talking about. He accused BLR without even knowing what happen. Called them shady and questioned their ethics over a deleted comment that neither BLR or its reps control.
 
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Can I ask a silly question, but who in this thread reps for BLR? Do reps not have to put it in their signature anymore?

I pass through this thread about once every 2 weeks and any person who has a question or is asking for any update gets jumped on by 5 different posters. And it only happens in these BLR threads. This kind of stuff makes me never want to deal with this company because of its "reps". I like BLR and I like that he has innovative products and I am genuinely curious as to what he has up his sleeve for this one since its such a saturated market.

But this pitchfork and torch crowd mentality is super toxic and all you are doing is driving anyway anyone on the fringe of wanting to support this company. A rep should be there to be positive and answer peoples questions in a polite manor, not constantly fighting and talking down to people. Isn't this a forum where we are trying to learn and support one another?

And again anyone who would like to say I bash BLR please find 1 post of me bashing this company? I will wait
just to be real until about a week ago we had 0 active reps except comm. so if someone jumped on you previously it was due to your content not reps.
 
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it's always been interesting to me to see how people behave and respond to things. Someone will get so worked up about a product release date that they will spend 20 min writing a post about it.
at the end of the day I won't release any product until I am satisfied with it. we dont just look at whatever products sell well that are formulated by someone else and then add random stuff to it.
we actually take the time to test things and try to be different from all the other stuff available. I dont care if it takes 2 years if it's not right itll stay in r&d or get canned altogether.
yes it might be frustrating because it can take a long time to get products out but our products work and are not someone else's product with our label.
be patient, the end product is very good.
it just needs to taste good as well or nobody will want to choke it down.
 

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Because bashing reps in their forum isn't going to be allowed my me. If you don't like it, you can leave.

And I just removed that one as well....see how shady I can get?
How can I be bashing when I stated in all my posted that I love BLR products and that I WILL buy the pre when I comes out? I never bashed anyone.
Actually mechka_grizli started bashing me (go ahead and look) by saying I called the reps liars which I never did or even implied. I’ll say this for the last time...I use BLR products and I LOVE THEM! They work! So why would I attack a company who’s products I use and rave about? But when something seems off I didn’t realize I would get this retaliation just by expressing my options.
With that being said, I am man enough to admit when I’m wrong. I looked back and it was not a BLR rep who bashed me so I apologize for thinking it was. But none the less I was met with resistance from mechka_grizli for expressing how I felt which again was just an opinion based on what was being said. Again I NEVER criticized a BLR product nor said anything negative about their effectiveness as I made sure to state I love their products. Please go back and look at my posts and you’ll see
 
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How can I be bashing when I stated in all my posted that I love BLR products and that I WILL buy the pre when I comes out? I never bashed anyone.
Actually mechka_grizli started bashing me (go ahead and look) by saying I called the reps liars which I never did or even implied. I’ll say this for the last time...I use BLR products and I LOVE THEM! They work! So why would I attack a company who’s products I use and rave about? But when something seems off I didn’t realize I would get this retaliation just by expressing my options.
With that being said, I am man enough to admit when I’m wrong. I looked back and it was not a BLR rep who bashed me so I apologize for thinking it was. But none the less I was met with resistance from mechka_grizli for expressing how I felt which again was just an opinion based on what was being said. Again I NEVER criticized a BLR product nor said anything negative about their effectiveness as I made sure to state I love their products. Please go back and look at my posts and you’ll see

If you are continuing the conversation about reps, its going to be removed.

....whether you love the products or not. I am beyond the point I am going to deal with a bunch of whiners over a supplement companies reps...who aren’t even employees. This applies to everyone, not just you.
 
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Sorry, but if your statement is true, that says something is wrong on many levels. If I take unexpected vacation time while I'm working a major account and that account is counting on me to produce, well let's just say I would not have a job anymore.
Considering BLR is the account and the "flavoring company" is getting paid to produce results, it sounds fishy that they were like "hey let's take a vacation unexpectedly and leave our client (BLR) who is paying us to do something just waiting"... That's NOT how people do business. And if your statement is true, then what's that say about the manufacturers Brundel uses to produce his products? To me, it says that they are unreliable and kinda sketchy! This whole launch just doesn't seem right


Many other companies on this board that treat the people who are spending their hard-earned money on their products with much more respect....and watch, I'll probably get bashed for this post too.

Which is another way of saying it will be another 3 months.
The above 3 came directly from you @offredjo. You put flavoring company in "" as to make it seem its a fake excuse then tried to back it up by saying that is not how people do business. Then you say what does it say about brundel and the people he deals with. You then say BLR doesnt treat their customers as well as other companies and then follow that up by stating this delay will cause the pre take another 3 months. <- Those are your words bro, no one is making that up
 
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Looking forward to this release and looking forward to many people ending their soapbox "feelings" rants. When the hell did everyone become such whiny t***s?
 

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Looking forward to this release and looking forward to many people ending their soapbox "feelings" rants. When the hell did everyone become such whiny t***s?
Lol since the internet was created, this is not a new phenomenon
 
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Lol since the internet was created, this is not a new phenomenon
I talked to an older gentleman the other day, I said people are softer, he said of course people are softer, they aren't tilling the land, chopping wood anymore, not milking cows, harvesting crops etc.. xD true
 
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I talked to an older gentleman the other day, I said people are softer, he said of course people are softer, they aren't tilling the land, chopping wood anymore, not milking cows, harvesting crops etc.. xD true
Gotta love the “back in my day” folks. I for one definitely long for the day of getting black lung to show my fellow mates how hard I am :)
 
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Gotta love the “back in my day” folks. I for one definitely long for the day of getting black lung to show my fellow mates how hard I am :)
I'm good chopping wood. I like my lungs lol.
 
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I like our current line up so I can only imagine when new stuff come out but I’m very happy with what we have now .
 
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Man. I have given blr the benefit of the doubt through this whole process, but the “it’s completely out of our control” thing is getting a little old. It just gets harder and harder to buy by the month...
 
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Man. I have given blr the benefit of the doubt through this whole process, but the “it’s completely out of our control” thing is getting a little old. It just gets harder and harder to buy by the month...
Hey, we agree. Brundel is not happy with how everything has played out.
 
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You guys have to imagine how frustrating it is for Brundel to be promising a product and to have hold back after hold back! He’s doing the best he can to get it out!
 
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I'll vouch for the above comments. He's more frustrated than anyone.
 
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Lol since the internet was created, this is not a new phenomenon
Glad I'm not a rep for this reason. Seeing everyone wet their panties over something that has ZERO effect on their life is disgusting. People get upset about delays is heartbreaking 💔
 
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Man. I have given blr the benefit of the doubt through this whole process, but the “it’s completely out of our control” thing is getting a little old. It just gets harder and harder to buy by the month...
It is extremely frustrating for us as well but it truly is out of our control and even if it is getting old to some we cannot control it, as much as we’d love to.

This is far beyond hype or creating excitement and I can assure you it’s not a stunt. Also, while you said it’s getting harder and harder to buy by the month I just ask for some patience and understanding.
 
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Man. I have given blr the benefit of the doubt through this whole process, but the “it’s completely out of our control” thing is getting a little old. It just gets harder and harder to buy by the month...
If it is not out of BLR's control that would mean the man is delaying a product intentionally thus intentionally delaying orders and revenue. Not sure any company with a sane person at the helm would ever do this lol.
 
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If it is not out of BLR's control that would mean the man is delaying a product intentionally thus intentionally delaying orders and revenue. Not sure any company with a sane person at the helm would ever do this lol.
I get that lol. Which has been why i have been continually patient and stood behind them when others threw hate during this whole process. It just seems like that can only truly go on for so long until some of the onus actually does fall on the company. Just my 2 cents.
 
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People bitching about unreleased supps is what's getting old....just my 2 cents
 
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Got the main vasodialtor ingredient for the BLR pre workout that I will be testing out with some coffee pre workout tomorrow.
 
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Wtf? I thought the product was complete and tested except for flavouring.
 
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Wtf? I thought the product was complete and tested except for flavouring.
Brundel and some others tested final product minus flavoring. Us reps have not tried flavoring or complete product yet.
 

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