EvoMuse Defuse Writeup

U could even do 4 rdrol if u want as 2 caps Is typically good for 100g carbs .. The Defuse should handle the excess but if I knew I was taking in 600g cho I would hit up 4 r drol
 
You right i didnt think that. Much appreciated. I could Also Go higher,tolerate it very well,just need to know if it is overkill or not
 
Wasn't someone saying that taking GDA's or things of the like kind of defeats the purpose of the carb up/refeed or at least may interfere?
 
Avengeme said:
Wasn't someone saying that taking GDA's or things of the like kind of defeats the purpose of the carb up/refeed or at least may interfere?
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Only if it has a carb blocker type ingredient.
 
I think you're going to be extremely impressed.
 
Hansistyle said:
very well.
i will take a photo also before and after, so you can see also if interested
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I'm absolutely interested. Depending when your last refeed was, your macro plan is solid and you should the results overnight.
 
dsade said:
I'm absolutely interested. Depending when your last refeed was, your macro plan is solid and you should the results overnight.
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You must like noodz!
 
last refeed 18 days ago, im in the last week of cut at 240p 100c 15f.

Pretty paleo also,liking so far the results.
Think is gonna be great, the carbo i will have are both: 300sugar and 300complex about.
 
Hansistyle said:
last refeed 18 days ago, im in the last week of cut at 240p 100c 15f.

Pretty paleo also,liking so far the results.
Think is gonna be great, the carbo i will have are both: 300sugar and 300complex about.
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Throw in a dose of MyoSynergy Elite and watch children run away frightened from the Vein Monster.
 
cubs1987 said:
any idea when this will be available again?
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Release will be sometime in early october, plenty of time to be stocked for the Holidays.
 
cubs1987 said:
Excellent. You knew where I was going with this!
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You got to be crazy if you think I'm going through the holidays without Slintensity and Defuse.
 
Auslifter said:
15g of fat!!!? Dude that's pretty retarded tbh I would never go under 30
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Lmao yea I put it not so eloquently.. I would be pretty f'ed up on 15g of fat for more than like a day. Idk how its even possible even if consuming LEAN protein sources... Barring straight canned tuna
 
That's just his refeed meal I assume.

You can make up the rest of your fat intake for the day another meal.
 
chedapalooza said:
Lmao yea I put it not so eloquently.. I would be pretty f'ed up on 15g of fat for more than like a day. Idk how its even possible even if consuming LEAN protein sources... Barring straight canned tuna
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If I went that low especially if I was extremely lean and also on 100 carb. I'd binge myself into a coma from my hormones going hay wire lol. It's probably ok for one day maybe if you plan on cheating or something and your doing damage control
 
dsade said:
That's just his refeed meal I assume.

You can make up the rest of your fat intake for the day another meal.
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I may have misunderstood but I think he said his entire cut was with 15g fat daily

But that is a good point RE making it up another meal, in any case
 
After reading again I think you're right.

I don't think I would even be able to design a menu like that, even with chicken breast exclusively.
 
In fine with it so low fat,may 15 too low but for sure no more than 25g.
Menù is chicken grilled mushroom lattuce vegetebales white eggs.
Hope that with retarded u do not intend to insult. If not,ill appreciate your critique Auslifter
 
Hansistyle said:
In fine with it so low fat,may 15 too low but for sure no more than 25g.
Menù is chicken grilled mushroom lattuce vegetebales white eggs.
Hope that with retarded u do not intend to insult. If not,ill appreciate your critique Auslifter
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definitely not, sorry to sound rude. just alarmed at that and feel you might suffer some detrimental effects at that low. unless your enhanced, or your competing in a bodybuilding competition and your going all out or something.
 
Hansistyle said:
In fine with it so low fat,may 15 too low but for sure no more than 25g.
Menù is chicken grilled mushroom lattuce vegetebales white eggs.
Hope that with retarded u do not intend to insult. If not,ill appreciate your critique Auslifter
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No offense but I think your calculation is off...
4 oz of chicken is like 4-5g of fat and I don't know how you cook it without some sort of oil lol. Bam, 10-15g of fat right there!
Unless your only having one piece of chicken the whole day and canned/tuna/egg whites or shakes your over 15.
Not a bad thing lol, I try to hit 30-35g+ as a minimum when I'm in a deficit. In a surplus I go higher...
You must be getting trace fats from other sources as well...
 
I know I grossly underestimated my total fat intake for years before I started tracking. It's so easy to add up especially when eating whole foods and quality protein sources
 
May be,but chicken here are pretty lean.

Max 25g anyway.but i got some verY good results btw. Also plenty of bcaa during and leucine with meals.
 
Sub'd for post-refeed photos!

Defuse and Slintensity + some extra NaRALA makes for a great time with the big meals.
 
MidwestBeast said:
Sub'd for post-refeed photos!

Defuse and Slintensity + some extra NaRALA makes for a great time with the big meals.
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KetoInduce will have a specially made Cyclo-R-ALA that is extremely effective. I'm considering pulling it over to a Slintensity update as well.
 
dsade said:
KetoInduce will have a specially made Cyclo-R-ALA that is extremely effective. I'm considering pulling it over to a Slintensity update as well.
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Do want!!
 
chedapalooza said:
Rookie question: what's the difference / benefits between r-ala and straight ala
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ALA is usually a combination of R-ALA and S-ALA, while R-ALA is the biologically active form of alpha lipoic acid (which S-ALA is not).

Also, Matt, what's your take on Bergenin? Seems to be a rare ingredient in products but seems to also be good for GDA purposes.
 
ma70 said:
ALA is usually a combination of R-ALA and S-ALA, while R-ALA is the biologically active form of alpha lipoic acid (which S-ALA is not).

Also, Matt, what's your take on Bergenin? Seems to be a rare ingredient in products but seems to also be good for GDA purposes.
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I use bergenin in the Eviscerates, and it works well. It has dismal oral availability though, so not really worth adding.
 
halfhuman said:
Add Na-Rala and it would be amazing.
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Not going to use Na-R-ALA. it would crank the price up at least $4, and this product category generally holds a max price of $25 or less.

The Cyclo complexed R-ALA will have superior oral activity as well as be plenty stable, and won't affect the price too bad.
 
dsade said:
Not going to use Na-R-ALA. it would crank the price up at least $4, and this product category generally holds a max price of $25 or less.

The Cyclo complexed R-ALA will have superior oral activity as well as be plenty stable, and won't affect the price too bad.
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FWIW, normal ALA has treated me well so I don't see R-ALA being too bad. Sounds good!
 
Slintensity update possibly?!

How come I'm just not hearing of this ;)
 
dsade said:
Not going to use Na-R-ALA. it would crank the price up at least $4, and this product category generally holds a max price of $25 or less.

The Cyclo complexed R-ALA will have superior oral activity as well as be plenty stable, and won't affect the price too bad.
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How about putting just Na-Rala out in pills? So people have a choice to stack it?ik it's available" but I rather buy from one company
 
halfhuman said:
How about putting just Na-Rala out in pills? So people have a choice to stack it?ik it's available" but I rather buy from one company
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Adding another product to the line takes a big chunk of resources. Right now everything is being invested in both the most badass new stuff, and restock of everything else.
 
halfhuman said:
How about putting just Na-Rala out in pills? So people have a choice to stack it?ik it's available" but I rather buy from one company
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dsade said:
Adding another product to the line takes a big chunk of resources. Right now everything is being invested in both the most badass new stuff, and restock of everything else.
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Yeah, as nice as it would be to be able to keep everything with one company, it's just very difficult to do. Matt is constantly pushing the envelope and that usually entails a lot of R&D and putting money into one or two new ideas, waiting to see if they're viable and if they are, waiting for those sales to hit to generate revenue for the next new product or two. And of course re-stocking those that are already in existence, but have been depleted like Matt mentioned.

EvoMuse makes up the bulk of my supplement usage, but I like using stuff from other (reputable) companies -- it's exciting to see what others get to come up with, as well. And with something like Na-R-ALA, it's great to find a reputable company (or companies) that can provide those bulk type supplements at lower costs. Long live capitalism! ;)
 
dsade said:
Adding another product to the line takes a big chunk of resources. Right now everything is being invested in both the most badass new stuff, and restock of everything else.
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A agree your hard working as$ is always on something Innovative and keeping stock is always a hassle it seems. So I agree. Maybe in the near, far future lol c
 
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