Gonna place my epilogue soon. How should I add my epic transdermal?
save your epic to combine with massacr3; im sure you will try it after you see how good ep1logue isGonna place my epilogue soon. How should I add my epic transdermal?
im also waiting for my amnes1a and rauwolscine to get shipped...Ordered 2 bottles of ep1logue off of Olympus labs website 2weeks ago and still haven't received them yet. Is this normal?
UroB is so versatile in my experience. It keeps you vascular and full when cutting even as you are leaning out.i will copy my current ep1logue feedback in this thread as well to let you know whats going on because here gets hardly anything written:
my 12 week ep1logue run is nearly finished (i think less than 2 weeks left). im definitely stronger, of course still insane pumps and a outstanding muscle-mind connection in the gym.
as far as body changes go i can say that i gained muscle, probably more than i would have without ep1logue. vascularity is better, i gained a little bit belly fat over the holidays but my vascularity is still there (mainly on the arms, weirdly it still gets better).
my gym buddy said two weeks ago something like „you gained remarkably on your back“ (he doesnt know about ep1logue, so i can keep him unbiased) and he is right, my shoulders, back, chest and also my neck are noticeably bigger, also the arms are bigger but there is primarily the increased vascularity noticeable. sadly only my legs didnt grow as nicely as the other bodyparts.
i have to mention that i was in caloric surplus during the whole cycle (not sure how high because lack of tracking but its easy discernible on the overall higher bodyfatpercentage) but i have a better vascularity than before, which is quite amazing.
overall im very satisfied with the results, even though i cant say for sure which effects are 100% related to the ep1logue - but when can we say that ever for sure about any supplement?
i already have 3 bottles of massacr3 here. after ep1logue i will take a 3 week break at least before i start the new cycle. maybe i will throw a lgd-4033 cycle in between (not sure yet, still researching the compound and thinking about the the pros and cons. maybe you, xtyler have a few impressions and can tell me your opinion) and use the massacr3 during pct.
It's fine.Hi guys! Currently runnin' X-factor 4 caps pre-wo.. would be a problem adding 2 caps of ep1logue (also pre-wo)? I'd read variuos advice on.. 'casue of the anti inflammatory action
Put it to good use. It'd be a shame to waste it!Well I'm a day or 2 away from finishing my first bottle, I am very happy with how I am feeling. My diet hasn't been as good as it should be but I'm happy when I look in the mirror. Weight is up 1-2lbs.
I'm going to try and be better during my second bottle and hit my daily protein and calories to see if I can add some more gains!!
I feel like Ep1logue would be wonderful during a cut and I'd really be able to see progress quickly
Okay.. i was worried about the possibility of them working against each other, thank you Tyler.It's fine.
Not at all ...just a rough guideline since. Both of them can be utilized in any scenario. I wouldn’t change your approach.Hey so just realizing looking at your Stacks on the OL site you have Ep1logue as cutting and recomping then Massacr3 as Bulking and recomping.
I've been trying to bulk in a caloric surplus with Epilogue. Am I making a mistake and should be cutting/recomping with it so at maintenance or less for calories?
Ok perfect thanks!Not at all ...just a rough guideline since. Both of them can be utilized in any scenario. I wouldn’t change your approach.
Calories seem to be ok. I'd personally drop fats to 75-80grams a day and fill the gap with about 270-300 calories from starchy carbs and protein.For this bulk and Ep1logue how much more than 1g/lb of Bodyweight should I go? Currently at 40% carbs=315g 30% protein=236g 30% fat = 105g
I'm 191 lbs
Starchy carbs = donuts ?Calories seem to be ok. I'd personally drop fats to 75-80grams a day and fill the gap with about 270-300 calories from starchy carbs and protein.
Duh! Day one stuff!Starchy carbs = donuts ?
I’m so ashamedDuh! Day one stuff!
Well that I can do!!Starchy carbs = donuts ?
Nah it only works for canadians. They have a special enzyme turning donuts into Myofibrils.Well that I can do!!
Oh I'm Canadian too eh!! All about those Tim Hortons donuts! LolNah it only works for canadians. They have a special enzyme turning donuts into Myofibrils.
Hey I finally knew something that xtyler didn’t. LolololOh I'm Canadian too eh!! All about those Tim Hortons donuts! Lol
But are you a DemiGod?Oh I'm Canadian too eh!! All about those Tim Hortons donuts! Lol
If abs are required then no....if I just need to be a fan of OL and their supps then oh yes for sure!But are you a DemiGod?![]()
1 prior to each workoutHow would I dose ep1logue if I was doing 2adays?
Told ya it was no joke....WARNING do not take p1louge on legs day ,couldn't do 2 sets of squats with light weight way too much pump . lesson learned lol
Bingo.On my second run of Ep1louge and after 3 or so weeks I am definitely noticing my hair is a bit thinner
Probably the Uro-b androgenic effects causing it but I am definitely noticing it this time round. Maybe because I am keeping a eye on it?
I thought Ep1louge didn’t affect the hair?Bingo.
Uro-B seems to behave as an AR agonist in muscle cells and as an AR antagonist in peripheral tissues like the prostate. I expect the same in the scalp.
It doesn't, indeed. Androgen Receptor AGONIST in muscle, Androgen Receptor ANTAGONIST in peripheral tissues like prostate, scalp, sebaceous glands.I thought Ep1louge didn’t affect the hair?
Time to stop it then!
seems like you are prone to androgenetic alopecia (i hope this is the right term), right? maybe you just loose your hair atm, not related to ep1logue??I thought Ep1louge didn’t affect the hair?
Time to stop it then!
That makes no sense to me hahaIt doesn't, indeed. Androgen Receptor AGONIST in muscle, Androgen Receptor ANTAGONIST in peripheral tissues like prostate, scalp, sebaceous glands.
What, exactly, makes no sense to you? I can try to break it down further. The take home message is still NO, Ep1logue does NOT cause hairloss.That makes no sense to me but I think I’ll stop Ep1louge for now as I was suspect on me losing my hair on my last run but now kept a eye on it and 3-4 weeks in it’s definitely lost density
curious if there is another existing pathway one can loose hair?What, exactly, makes no sense to you? I can try to break it down further. The take home message is still NO, Ep1logue does NOT cause hairloss.
Yeah I am very prone. Well yeah I get told it doesn’t but then none of us really know much about Uro-b (studies) and it’s affect on DHT etcseems like you are prone to androgenetic alopecia (i hope this is the right term), right? maybe you just loose your hair atm, not related to ep1logue??
i think you have asked the same a few months ago during your first run and you got told that ep1logue isnt the causer of it; also nobody else has mentioned hair loss or something like that.
Keep in mind that besides what studies show (its SARM [Selective Androgen Receptor Agonist]-like activity, so binding/activation in muscle cells and blockade in skin/hair follicles/prostate), thousands of users (including many people with obvious MPB) reported no effect on their hair, as expected. This is not to say I don't believe yor hair is thinning. I certainly do. You may start using Biotin and lose hair at the same time, but there's all the difference in the world between causality and casuality.Yeah I am very prone. Well yeah I get told it doesn’t but then none of us really know much about Uro-b (studies) and it’s affect on DHT etc
Yes I am the only one with this side effect and I’ve always been a fan of OL, so this is not a bash lol
This. Would be variablescurious if there is another existing pathway one can loose hair?
Your point is well taken.All kinds of feedback is always appreciated guys and never overlooked. Just remember that the hair cycle is actually extraordinarily slow (unless you're experiencing Telogen Effluvium, something not DHT/androgens-related). Scalp hair has a very long life cycle.
Scalp hair grows (Anagen) an average of 4-7 years, catagen probably lasts about 3 weeks and telogen a few months. In other words, nothing makes your hair fall within weeks unless, again, it's T.E. from emotional or physiological stress.
It is slow unless you’re taking androgens. I took letro for 3 weeks and I pretty much went from thick hair to thinAll kinds of feedback is always appreciated guys and never overlooked. Just remember that the hair cycle is actually extraordinarily slow (unless you're experiencing Telogen Effluvium, something not DHT/androgens-related). Scalp hair has a very long life cycle.
Scalp hair grows (Anagen) an average of 4-7 years, catagen probably lasts about 3 weeks and telogen a few months. In other words, nothing makes your hair fall within weeks unless, again, it's T.E. from emotional or physiological stress.
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