Definitely noticed I've been feeling thirstier since yesterday. DOMs weren't too bad even though I just came back from a deload, so I'm happy about that.
Please do keep us posted brother...Definitely noticed I've been feeling thirstier since yesterday. DOMs weren't too bad even though I just came back from a deload, so I'm happy about that.
Thanks brother. Yeah, the biggest barrier to say I have is, "Every review is mind blowing, this is too good to be true.. " But as anyone can tell you, it is true. Which is why I have so many supporters...Reviews look great buddy, will think about using this at some point down the line.
Very excited to combine most wanted and follidrone !
Finished my second workout today. Will keep a daily small log here if people don't mind.Please do keep us posted brother...
Super! For some it hits the first day (GREATLY mitigated DOMS). For others, it takes about two weeks. You'll know for certain when it hits, and I'll be around with any answers to your questions....Finished my second workout today. Will keep a daily small log here if people don't mind.
Nice and your only on day three?!?! When is your next heavy leg day? That is the true test as far as DOMS go.3rd day. DOMS is basically eliminated and sleep seems deeper. Definitely seems to be doing what it advertises.
It only gets better from there!!3rd day. DOMS is basically eliminated and sleep seems deeper. Definitely seems to be doing what it advertises.
Ah, true test of DOMSNice and your only on day three?!?! When is your next heavy leg day? That is the true test as far as DOMS go.
So grateful to hear this. The best part? I does get better with time...3rd day. DOMS is basically eliminated and sleep seems deeper. Definitely seems to be doing what it advertises.
That is a good thing. I may even switch into a slight caloric deficit to really put it to the test.So grateful to hear this. The best part? I does get better with time...![]()
Oooh, it excels on a cut/recomp diet. I must says, you're really stress testing it... :arms:That is a good thing. I may even switch into a slight caloric deficit to really put it to the test.
Yea right now I am on recomp cals on the plan I PM'd you about. Really tempted to see how effective it is on a deficit. I might switch it up in a few daysOooh, it excels on a cut/recomp diet. I must says, you're really stress testing it... :arms:
I like the last setence...low dosageSome good stuff:
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/content/ecdysteroids-curb-growth-6048/
I wonder how it compares to C3G, because gosh darnit, C3G really is effective at regulating blood sugar levels (for me at least, I know I know, n=1).
The study didn't even use what Mixel is a big proponent for, they used the "inferior" 20-hydroxyecdysone.I like the last setence...low dosage
As i said many times before.
There are 2 main factors why people dont get anything from ecdysteroids.
1. Dosage
2. Purity
So this is not the 20-H that is supposed to be inferior?I thought 20 was different nomenclature for beta?
So this is not the 20-H that is supposed to be inferior?
Also Ecdysterone,ecdysone, 20hydroxyecdysone,20hydroxyecdysterone,beta ecdysterone and beta ecdysone ia the same. Same structure just different names. That info is from ICPS so i believe they know their ****20-HE works but i am fan of ecdysteroid-blend.works even better
It is ecdysterone from RC but just single one. It works but i mean u need a damn good dosage of it. I have been taking couole of grams of ecdysterone and yes, it will increase strength,endurance,size etcThe only thing I can get my hands on is Ecdymorph (99% Ecdysterone) CO2 extraction from Rhaponticum Carthamoides
25 mg. would this be effective and/or worth it for strength related purposes?
Compared to PA... and... GO.It is ecdysterone from RC but just single one. It works but i mean u need a damn good dosage of it. I have been taking couole of grams of ecdysterone and yes, it will increase strength,endurance,size etc
Seriously , PA and ecdy gives me pretty similar gains but PA is muuuuuch cheaper.Compared to PA... and... GO.
so from a money standpoint it wouldn't be worth it then? If u need a couple grams and there is only 90 25mg servings for around 23-25 dollarsIt is ecdysterone from RC but just single one. It works but i mean u need a damn good dosage of it. I have been taking couole of grams of ecdysterone and yes, it will increase strength,endurance,size etc
To be very honest with you, i see no point taking ecdysterone (now i mean a single ecdysteroid ecdysterone) just 100mg.so from a money standpoint it wouldn't be worth it then? If u need a couple grams and there is only 90 25mg servings for around 23-25 dollars
Hey buddy,Danes, how did you arrive at your 7tab dose of turk? At the site you told me about they recommend up to 4tabs per day (each tab is 100mg, at 10% Turk)...did you just experiment?
Danes does not subscribe to the "minimum effective dose" philosophy. Isn't it clear that he subscribes to the "most I can take before getting sick from it" philosophy?Holy fak 15tabs per day!? Thats expensive :/ Is dosing a trial and error thing is it?
That's ok, playing with Anogenin is already costly enough @ $40 a bottle. LoL.lol true, the big fella is always all in
i do recall mixelflick saying somewhere in here that 70mg would be a good minimum dose, but i think that was re iforce ecdy so dunno if that figure applies to the turk product too...
for those interested, the price of the turk product me and danes are referring to is $20 for 30tabs, $70 for 120tabs, $120 for 240tabs
Danes, would like you to pop in and join my Most Wanted log starting on Saturday, would be good to have an edcy guru like you in the threadLol
I mean ecdysteroids are expencice but likr i said. The right quality and the right dosage (no low dosages) it can really give nice results. One of my favourite but its expencive..
newage, you can allways start with 4 ajuga turkestanica tabs (40mg turkesterone) and increase dosage after couple of weeks
we are different and it seems like my body is like horse-body lol. Small dosages dont bother my body..
I will never forget when my doctor heard i took 12 tramadol (5 hours from one cao to last) and i barely could feel any painlowering effect. While my friend took 2 and he was "high" lol
Loool! Crazy crazy man !!Danes, would like you to pop in and join my Most Wanted log starting on Saturday, would be good to have an edcy guru like you in the thread
also, re tremadol, i once took 8 tremmies in a night too, zero effect, might of been because of ingestion through the nose, haha
so would 90mg of Ecdymorph (99% Ecdysterone) CO2 extraction from Rhaponticum CarthamoidesLolI mean ecdysteroids are expencice but likr i said. The right quality and the right dosage (no low dosages) it can really give nice results. One of my favourite but its expencive.. newage, you can allways start with 4 ajuga turkestanica tabs (40mg turkesterone) and increase dosage after couple of weeks we are different and it seems like my body is like horse-body lol. Small dosages dont bother my body.. I will never forget when my doctor heard i took 12 tramadol (5 hours from one cao to last) and i barely could feel any painlowering effect. While my friend took 2 and he was "high" lol
My opinion is that is wayyyyy too lowso would 90mg of Ecdymorph (99% Ecdysterone) CO2 extraction from Rhaponticum Carthamoides
Probably be good for normal people since u take high doses of everything?
so would 90mg of Ecdymorph (99% Ecdysterone) CO2 extraction from Rhaponticum Carthamoides
Probably be good for normal people since u take high doses of everything?
Fantastic man, so glad you're doing well with it. Synergistic is a word that's thrown a lot in our biz, but the Ecdy we use plus the complimentary ingredients truly lives up to that name. Took me 2 years plus, just to figure out the optimal EAA ratios...Eh, I like the discussion here, but overall, going with MPS was probably a decision I'm glad I chose. It's got everything already synergistically working. No questions asked.
When you combine the sum of ingredients, it's definitely worth the price.
This is fantastic to hear. To be fair, deeper sleep is one of the hallmarks of most quality Ecdy. Before I wrote 2.0, I studied hundreds of Ecdy logs for anecdotal feedback. Here's what's typically reported...I've gotta say....the sleep effects are no joke. I dose MPS in the mornings for my morning workouts (4am to 5am) and I still get awesome sleep effects when I sleep at night (around 10pm). I wake up feeling slightly groggy and its hard to open my eyes, and the sleep definitely feels deep (I also have vivid dreams sometimes).
Anyways, today is the 3rd time I've deadlifted/overhead pressed this week and I'm still able to put out the sets on a slight caloric deficit (~200 cals). I'm really like this stuff. High frequency programs normally trash me but I'm making it through!
Yup. I pretty much lined everything up so I could really see the effects of MPS. High frequency powerlifting + low calories = the recipe for the perfect disaster, and so far, I'm chugging along without feeling like I'm dead.Stress testing it like ma70 is doing is fantastic, because it tells us the limits of the compound. They do the same thing in aviation, where they'll bend a prototype airliner's wings until they snap.
I know it has betain in it, which badly dries out my skin. I could only see that as a positive thing if your skin was super oily to begin with. I will let Mixel chim in on any effects the ecdy may have on it.Hmm, noticing that my skin is looking a bit better. I don't know if it's ecdy or if it's one of the many components of MPS, but just something I noticed that I'd throw out there. Today is day 7.
Nausea,stomach ache/upset and diaerhea er typicaly TMG/betaine sidesMass pro Synthagen just isn't for me. It makes nauseous, gives me a stomach ache, and makes me go hypo. The recovery was amazing but I just couldn't handle the side effects even at low doses. Your tranquilogen on the other hand is awesome for sleep and I use it with Adaptogen N so I get great recovery with those 2 supplements.