Bludevil's FatLoss Stack + AndroHard (sponsored by PP)

Final Review of Primordial Performance’s Fat Loss Stack

Final Stats Age – 37 (same)
Height – 6’0 (same)
Weight – 189 Before | 188 After
BF% - 11.2 Before | 10.3 After
As you can see, only a 1lb drop in weight but almost a full 1% reduction in body fat. A very nice recomp for only 6 weeks with diet not being as strict as it should have been.

Measurements (took by my wife)
Neck – 15 7/8 Before | 15 1/2
Right Arm – 15 1/7 Before |15 13/16
Chest – 40 Before |39 3/4
Waist – 35 1/16 Before |34 3/4
Hips – 36 Before |35 1/8
Right Thigh – 23 ¾ Before | 23 1/4

Here are the Before and After Pictures
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I’ll give my review of each supplement and then a final review of the entire stack
Supplements (Green Tea, Dermatherm Target, AndroHard)

Green Tea – (8/10)
Pros – Seemed to heighten immune system. During my 6 week run, 1 of my kids had 3 colds, the other had 2 and my wife had 2 colds as well (due to wife being a nurse and kids starting back to school). I made it through the entire run unscathed with not even a sniffle. The only thing besides GT that I was taking that would have assisted was a multi.

Cons – Really don’t have a con, except it’s hard to judge if it’s doing anything or not.

Overall - Hmm, this is a hard one. Because you don’t really feel anything on it, it’s hard to say if it works or not. But I have to assume it did given the final measurements. So basically, if you’re looking to feel something or get a buzz this isn’t the product for you, but for overall health it has me won over.

Dermatherm Target – (5/10)
Pros – Nice cinnamon smell. I enjoyed putting it on each morning just for the smell. It seemed to absorb pretty fast as well compared to other topicals I’ve used (Absolved / Lipo Ultra). The other thing I liked about it was it seemed to last forever. You definitely good a large amount of servings for the price.

Cons – Biggest con for this product was the water retention. I would always feel and look bloated about an hour after putting this stuff on. It’s funny, it wasn’t that bad at the end of the day, but about an hour after application I would always get this gassy feeling in my stomach. I know it had to be the DT because it was consistent each day, about an hour after application. Another con for me, but may be a plus for others is there wasn’t really a burn. With absolved and Lipo Ultra there was always a burning sensation after putting it on. Even if it wasn’t doing anything, mentally I thought it was because of the burning sensation. But hey, that’s just me and how my mind works. I missed the burn.

Overall - Like I’ve mentioned in the log, this stuff is good for those in competition looking to drop that last .5% of bf. Even starting at 11%, I didn’t notice a whole lot in my mid-section after 6 weeks that I don’t think is 99% attributed to diet. So I’d recommend this for those competing, but for a regular joe like myself, I probably wouldn’t purchase.

AndroHard – (9/10)
Pros – I absolutely loved this stuff. I had no sides what so ever while running this. I had a checkup done the last week on AH and blood pressure and cholesterol were in normal ranges. My strength continued to increase each week while running AH. For instance, starting the run I was doing Bench Presses 3x5 @ 225 and at the end 3x5 @ 245. I usually went up about 5lbs a week in the lifting category. I seemed to lean out in the mid-section, upper arms and shoulder areas as well. Another pro was increased vascularity. Veins were really pronounced in the upper arm/shoulder areas.

Cons – Other than the 1st week, I really didn’t notice any libido increase or increased erection hardness which both are advertised selling points. I did get some acne as well. I can always tell when my test is high because I start getting bumps on my upper thighs and butt. About week 2, I started noticing a few bumps in both places. They started subsiding near the end of the bottle.

Overall – For those of you who are experienced in prohormones, to me this stuff is similar to the original 1-AD. I don’t think it’s as strong as 1-AD but it’s pretty close, especially in terms of strength gains. With no sides for me (no back pumps, gyno, non liver toxic,etc…) this is a definant winner. For me I believe most of my gains on this stack came from the AH.

Overall thoughts on the FLS + AH Stack – While I can’t complain one bit with the results, especially with my diet not being as strict as it would have been if this was ran pre-beach time, I’m not sure I’d purchase the FLS stack. If I’m being honest, I think 98% of my results came from the AH while the GT attributed to 1.5% and the DT .5%. So while I would definitely purchase the AH again (waiting on the new series to come out), I doubt I would buy the FLS stack. I have thought about buying the GT separate just for overall health benefits though. So overall, AndroHard a big 2 thumbs up, FLS stack, neither positive or negative, really just middle of the road. However, I do think the FLS combo would be rather good stacked with other cutting agents (namely Alpha T2 + Lean Extreme).

By the way, I hope PP doesn’t mess with AndroHard to much with the new lineup because they definitely have a winner there.

And one last thing, thank you PP for the opportunity to run this stack. You seem to be one of the more reputable companies out there and I enjoyed running the log for you guys :thumbsup:
 
bludevil said:
Final Review of Primordial Performance’s Fat Loss Stack

Final Stats Age – 37 (same)
Height – 6’0 (same)
Weight – 189 Before | 188 After
BF% - 11.2 Before | 10.3 After
As you can see, only a 1lb drop in weight but almost a full 1% reduction in body fat. A very nice recomp for only 6 weeks with diet not being as strict as it should have been.

Measurements (took by my wife)
Neck – 15 7/8 Before | 15 1/2
Right Arm – 15 1/7 Before |15 13/16
Chest – 40 Before |39 3/4
Waist – 35 1/16 Before |34 3/4
Hips – 36 Before |35 1/8
Right Thigh – 23 ¾ Before | 23 1/4

Here are the Before and After Pictures
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I’ll give my review of each supplement and then a final review of the entire stack
Supplements (Green Tea, Dermatherm Target, AndroHard)

Green Tea – (8/10)
Pros – Seemed to heighten immune system. During my 6 week run, 1 of my kids had 3 colds, the other had 2 and my wife had 2 colds as well (due to wife being a nurse and kids starting back to school). I made it through the entire run unscathed with not even a sniffle. The only thing besides GT that I was taking that would have assisted was a multi.

Cons – Really don’t have a con, except it’s hard to judge if it’s doing anything or not.

Overall - Hmm, this is a hard one. Because you don’t really feel anything on it, it’s hard to say if it works or not. But I have to assume it did given the final measurements. So basically, if you’re looking to feel something or get a buzz this isn’t the product for you, but for overall health it has me won over.

Dermatherm Target – (5/10)
Pros – Nice cinnamon smell. I enjoyed putting it on each morning just for the smell. It seemed to absorb pretty fast as well compared to other topicals I’ve used (Absolved / Lipo Ultra). The other thing I liked about it was it seemed to last forever. You definitely good a large amount of servings for the price.

Cons – Biggest con for this product was the water retention. I would always feel and look bloated about an hour after putting this stuff on. It’s funny, it wasn’t that bad at the end of the day, but about an hour after application I would always get this gassy feeling in my stomach. I know it had to be the DT because it was consistent each day, about an hour after application. Another con for me, but may be a plus for others is there wasn’t really a burn. With absolved and Lipo Ultra there was always a burning sensation after putting it on. Even if it wasn’t doing anything, mentally I thought it was because of the burning sensation. But hey, that’s just me and how my mind works. I missed the burn.

Overall - Like I’ve mentioned in the log, this stuff is good for those in competition looking to drop that last .5% of bf. Even starting at 11%, I didn’t notice a whole lot in my mid-section after 6 weeks that I don’t think is 99% attributed to diet. So I’d recommend this for those competing, but for a regular joe like myself, I probably wouldn’t purchase.

AndroHard – (9/10)
Pros – I absolutely loved this stuff. I had no sides what so ever while running this. I had a checkup done the last week on AH and blood pressure and cholesterol were in normal ranges. My strength continued to increase each week while running AH. For instance, starting the run I was doing Bench Presses 3x5 @ 225 and at the end 3x5 @ 245. I usually went up about 5lbs a week in the lifting category. I seemed to lean out in the mid-section, upper arms and shoulder areas as well. Another pro was increased vascularity. Veins were really pronounced in the upper arm/shoulder areas.

Cons – Other than the 1st week, I really didn’t notice any libido increase or increased erection hardness which both are advertised selling points. I did get some acne as well. I can always tell when my test is high because I start getting bumps on my upper thighs and butt. About week 2, I started noticing a few bumps in both places. They started subsiding near the end of the bottle.

Overall – For those of you who are experienced in prohormones, to me this stuff is similar to the original 1-AD. I don’t think it’s as strong as 1-AD but it’s pretty close, especially in terms of strength gains. With no sides for me (no back pumps, gyno, non liver toxic,etc…) this is a definant winner. For me I believe most of my gains on this stack came from the AH.

Overall thoughts on the FLS + AH Stack – While I can’t complain one bit with the results, especially with my diet not being as strict as it would have been if this was ran pre-beach time, I’m not sure I’d purchase the FLS stack. If I’m being honest, I think 98% of my results came from the AH while the GT attributed to 1.5% and the DT .5%. So while I would definitely purchase the AH again (waiting on the new series to come out), I doubt I would buy the FLS stack. I have thought about buying the GT separate just for overall health benefits though. So overall, AndroHard a big 2 thumbs up, FLS stack, neither positive or negative, really just middle of the road. However, I do think the FLS combo would be rather good stacked with other cutting agents (namely Alpha T2 + Lean Extreme).

By the way, I hope PP doesn’t mess with AndroHard to much with the new lineup because they definitely have a winner there.

And one last thing, thank you PP for the opportunity to run this stack. You seem to be one of the more reputable companies out there and I enjoyed running the log for you guys :thumbsup:
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Thank you for the awesome review Chris. BTW...your not the only one who has an issue with topical fat burners causing major bloating and gassy feeling issues. I hate that about all topical fat burners because they all do that to me. Even the original DermaTherm did and I loved that stuff. Eviscerate in all honesty, while I think it is the most effective topical fat burner is also the biggest pain in the ass because it bloats me like nothing else. The biggest culprit about all these topical fat burners is that you have to wait about 3 days after you are done with them to notice the results they provided for you.

Anyway, again...thank you bud. :bigok:

Cheers!:cheers:

-Sean-

Primordial Performance
 
bludevil said:
Final Review of Primordial Performance’s Fat Loss Stack

Final Stats Age – 37 (same)
Height – 6’0 (same)
Weight – 189 Before | 188 After
BF% - 11.2 Before | 10.3 After
As you can see, only a 1lb drop in weight but almost a full 1% reduction in body fat. A very nice recomp for only 6 weeks with diet not being as strict as it should have been.

Measurements (took by my wife)
Neck – 15 7/8 Before | 15 1/2
Right Arm – 15 1/7 Before |15 13/16
Chest – 40 Before |39 3/4
Waist – 35 1/16 Before |34 3/4
Hips – 36 Before |35 1/8
Right Thigh – 23 ¾ Before | 23 1/4

Here are the Before and After Pictures
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I’ll give my review of each supplement and then a final review of the entire stack
Supplements (Green Tea, Dermatherm Target, AndroHard)

Green Tea – (8/10)
Pros – Seemed to heighten immune system. During my 6 week run, 1 of my kids had 3 colds, the other had 2 and my wife had 2 colds as well (due to wife being a nurse and kids starting back to school). I made it through the entire run unscathed with not even a sniffle. The only thing besides GT that I was taking that would have assisted was a multi.

Cons – Really don’t have a con, except it’s hard to judge if it’s doing anything or not.

Overall - Hmm, this is a hard one. Because you don’t really feel anything on it, it’s hard to say if it works or not. But I have to assume it did given the final measurements. So basically, if you’re looking to feel something or get a buzz this isn’t the product for you, but for overall health it has me won over.

Dermatherm Target – (5/10)
Pros – Nice cinnamon smell. I enjoyed putting it on each morning just for the smell. It seemed to absorb pretty fast as well compared to other topicals I’ve used (Absolved / Lipo Ultra). The other thing I liked about it was it seemed to last forever. You definitely good a large amount of servings for the price.

Cons – Biggest con for this product was the water retention. I would always feel and look bloated about an hour after putting this stuff on. It’s funny, it wasn’t that bad at the end of the day, but about an hour after application I would always get this gassy feeling in my stomach. I know it had to be the DT because it was consistent each day, about an hour after application. Another con for me, but may be a plus for others is there wasn’t really a burn. With absolved and Lipo Ultra there was always a burning sensation after putting it on. Even if it wasn’t doing anything, mentally I thought it was because of the burning sensation. But hey, that’s just me and how my mind works. I missed the burn.

Overall - Like I’ve mentioned in the log, this stuff is good for those in competition looking to drop that last .5% of bf. Even starting at 11%, I didn’t notice a whole lot in my mid-section after 6 weeks that I don’t think is 99% attributed to diet. So I’d recommend this for those competing, but for a regular joe like myself, I probably wouldn’t purchase.

AndroHard – (9/10)
Pros – I absolutely loved this stuff. I had no sides what so ever while running this. I had a checkup done the last week on AH and blood pressure and cholesterol were in normal ranges. My strength continued to increase each week while running AH. For instance, starting the run I was doing Bench Presses 3x5 @ 225 and at the end 3x5 @ 245. I usually went up about 5lbs a week in the lifting category. I seemed to lean out in the mid-section, upper arms and shoulder areas as well. Another pro was increased vascularity. Veins were really pronounced in the upper arm/shoulder areas.

Cons – Other than the 1st week, I really didn’t notice any libido increase or increased erection hardness which both are advertised selling points. I did get some acne as well. I can always tell when my test is high because I start getting bumps on my upper thighs and butt. About week 2, I started noticing a few bumps in both places. They started subsiding near the end of the bottle.

Overall – For those of you who are experienced in prohormones, to me this stuff is similar to the original 1-AD. I don’t think it’s as strong as 1-AD but it’s pretty close, especially in terms of strength gains. With no sides for me (no back pumps, gyno, non liver toxic,etc…) this is a definant winner. For me I believe most of my gains on this stack came from the AH.

Overall thoughts on the FLS + AH Stack – While I can’t complain one bit with the results, especially with my diet not being as strict as it would have been if this was ran pre-beach time, I’m not sure I’d purchase the FLS stack. If I’m being honest, I think 98% of my results came from the AH while the GT attributed to 1.5% and the DT .5%. So while I would definitely purchase the AH again (waiting on the new series to come out), I doubt I would buy the FLS stack. I have thought about buying the GT separate just for overall health benefits though. So overall, AndroHard a big 2 thumbs up, FLS stack, neither positive or negative, really just middle of the road. However, I do think the FLS combo would be rather good stacked with other cutting agents (namely Alpha T2 + Lean Extreme).

By the way, I hope PP doesn’t mess with AndroHard to much with the new lineup because they definitely have a winner there.

And one last thing, thank you PP for the opportunity to run this stack. You seem to be one of the more reputable companies out there and I enjoyed running the log for you guys :thumbsup:
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Thanks heaps for logging this and reporting back your experience, Chris.

You can see the body composition difference from "Before" and "After", if even with a little more definition.

Re Invalid Link Removed - this topical does NOT burn and will NOT burn. I don't know about your experience with other topicals, but I have used many and the ONLY one that burns is Eviscerate (and slightly, but nowhere near the original, Eviscerate Smolder). I don't know about the "gassy feeling", but the water retention is quite common with the majority of topicals, and the water goes away a few days after using it.

We won't be changing Invalid Link Removed because we no longer make it - is it a DIScontinued hormonal from our product line.

Anyways, great recomp there, and I agree totally with you about Invalid Link Removed - only LEANER people who want to get that little bit leaner should really use it. Invalid Link Removed on the other hand, could be used all the time, but use ACTUAL green tea, as it provides antioxidant and other health benefits.

Overall, nice results. Thanks for choosing Primordial :cheers:

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman
 
Awesome stuff man. Reps. Its detailed reviews like this that make it easy for a consumer to make a decision based on the experience of others. I hope more and more logs become this detailed. Good run my man!
 
nice log man
 
HereToStudy said:
Awesome stuff man. Reps. Its detailed reviews like this that make it easy for a consumer to make a decision based on the experience of others. I hope more and more logs become this detailed. Good run my man!
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Thanks, I agree. First thing I do when running something new is go search reviews to try and form a decision.
 
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