taman6886
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I have never used an insulin mimicker before, probably because I never quite grasped where the fit into the bigger picture but I have seen some guys just rave about them.
Big Boys on quest for leanness phase 2
- Thread starter Onlychevy6
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I have never used an insulin mimicker before, probably because I never quite grasped where the fit into the bigger picture but I have seen some guys just rave about them.
D2footballjrc
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Same here, I thought why not give them a try.
Onlychevy6
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2/8/12
Well today was interesting. Started off my evening workout pretty nice by the time I got to my cardio I got half way through it and my right calf was cramping like you wouldn't believe. I tried to ignore it as long as I could. But it got to a point were my calf was just stuck in a flexed position so I went and stretched them out. And drag me some more water. Also bumped up the weight a tad on some of the exercises.
Push Ups
15 reps
15 reps
15 reps
DB Squats
15 reps 45 lbs
15 reps 45 lbs
15 reps 45 lbs
DB Incline
15 reps 60 lbs
15 reps 60 lbs
15 reps 60 lbs
Reverse Grip Pulldowns
15 reps 130 lbs
15 reps 130 lbs
15 reps 130 lbs
DB Upright Rows
15 reps 40 lbs
15 reps 40 lbs
15 reps 40 lbs
Bench Dips (Legs off the ground)
15 reps
15 reps
15 reps
Hip Raises
20 reps
20 reps
20 reps
EZ Bar Curls (Switched between wide grip and narrow grip)
15 reps 70 lbs
15 reps 70 lbs
15 reps 70 lbs
Decline Sit Ups with 15lb Ball
20 reps
20 reps
20 reps
Overall I was happy with my workout. Got about 2 1/2 miles into my jog when the cramping started. Grrrrr
Well today was interesting. Started off my evening workout pretty nice by the time I got to my cardio I got half way through it and my right calf was cramping like you wouldn't believe. I tried to ignore it as long as I could. But it got to a point were my calf was just stuck in a flexed position so I went and stretched them out. And drag me some more water. Also bumped up the weight a tad on some of the exercises.
Push Ups
15 reps
15 reps
15 reps
DB Squats
15 reps 45 lbs
15 reps 45 lbs
15 reps 45 lbs
DB Incline
15 reps 60 lbs
15 reps 60 lbs
15 reps 60 lbs
Reverse Grip Pulldowns
15 reps 130 lbs
15 reps 130 lbs
15 reps 130 lbs
DB Upright Rows
15 reps 40 lbs
15 reps 40 lbs
15 reps 40 lbs
Bench Dips (Legs off the ground)
15 reps
15 reps
15 reps
Hip Raises
20 reps
20 reps
20 reps
EZ Bar Curls (Switched between wide grip and narrow grip)
15 reps 70 lbs
15 reps 70 lbs
15 reps 70 lbs
Decline Sit Ups with 15lb Ball
20 reps
20 reps
20 reps
Overall I was happy with my workout. Got about 2 1/2 miles into my jog when the cramping started. Grrrrr
taman6886
Well-known member
Good push Jeff!
DreamWeaver
Legend
They help shuttle carbs into your muscles adding more volume. Berberine will actually enhance uptake of Glut4 into muscles while inhibiting it from being transported into fat cells. Kind of a win win... Tannis will handle larger amounts of high glycemic carbs, good for after a workout. So they are basically for strategic carb use...
RickRock13
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taman6886 said:
I hadn't used one before until last winter. I started Need2slin, and now I won't go without it! Its my favorite supplement in the world and one of my daily staples.
Makes moderate to high Carb consumption much more lenient and less damaging for me
DreamWeaver
Legend
I hadn't used one before until last winter. I started Need2slin, and now I won't go without it! Its my favorite supplement in the world and one of my daily staples.
Makes moderate to high Carb consumption much more lenient and less damaging for me
Slin is that mostly Tannis I guess good for about 100 grams of high glycemic carbs, mainly for post workout.
taman6886
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Went a bit overboard on the diet today. Did not really eat garbage per se, just underestimated the caloric content of the hotwings I had for lunch with the salad bar. Anyways, 2850 cals with a burn of 3979. My be in my head, but I think I am seeing some improved vascularity in my arms and hands.
Day 3, wk 4 (Deload)
5:10-5:45
Bench 40/50/60%x5's (110/140/170)
Dead Press (in power rack, starting from the chest pushing up)
3x10 @100
Inc DB Press 3x12 @40's
Assisted Dip Bw-135 3x10
Dual DB Skull Crushers 3x12@ 15's
High Pulley Straight bar Tri PD 2x12 @70.
Finished it off with 40 minutes of Random Hills Cardio-250 cals.
Day 3, wk 4 (Deload)
5:10-5:45
Bench 40/50/60%x5's (110/140/170)
Dead Press (in power rack, starting from the chest pushing up)
3x10 @100
Inc DB Press 3x12 @40's
Assisted Dip Bw-135 3x10
Dual DB Skull Crushers 3x12@ 15's
High Pulley Straight bar Tri PD 2x12 @70.
Finished it off with 40 minutes of Random Hills Cardio-250 cals.
mattrag
Legend
good work man! Deload week. Always had a hard time deloading but it is definitely worth it.
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
Day 3 of this challenge.
Weight: down .8 pounds total for week 2.8 pounds.
Feb 9, 2012
Diet:
Cals: 1783
Protein: 183
Carbs: 120
Fats: 53
Water: 130 oz.
Workout:
45 min: lifting + 30 minutes cardio : 913 cals burnt. W/hrm
Will list out lifts shortly on ipad.
Total cals burnt today: 3863
Supplements taken:
Am: testopro, daa, lclt, organ shield, multi, fish oil, joint protect, skele balm, agmatine 500mg
Lunch: need2slin
Pre: anabolic ignite, ancient strength
Intra: recover pro
Pm: testopro, 3z, joint protect, skele balm, age force patch (weight loss)
Weight: down .8 pounds total for week 2.8 pounds.
Feb 9, 2012
Diet:
Cals: 1783
Protein: 183
Carbs: 120
Fats: 53
Water: 130 oz.
Workout:
45 min: lifting + 30 minutes cardio : 913 cals burnt. W/hrm
Will list out lifts shortly on ipad.
Total cals burnt today: 3863
Supplements taken:
Am: testopro, daa, lclt, organ shield, multi, fish oil, joint protect, skele balm, agmatine 500mg
Lunch: need2slin
Pre: anabolic ignite, ancient strength
Intra: recover pro
Pm: testopro, 3z, joint protect, skele balm, age force patch (weight loss)
mattrag
Legend
D2footballjrc
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stxnas said:You guys are making me want to pay more attention to my macros. I have a tendency to eat too many carbs.
Its hard, I have to force myself to watch carbs. I could eat them all day long.
mattrag
Legend
Yea, i think we all crave the carbs. Though I just crave rice and steak. If I could eat rice and steak all day everyday and be lean mean and shredded I'd be in heaven...
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
stxnas said:
Water, and turkey pepperoni. One of the best low cal, low carb, low fat, high protein foods. I snack on it quite a bit, just up your water some for the sodium boost. Its pretty filling though, I'll add a low fat mozzarella cheese stick every so often, 60-80 cals, low fat, low carbs, and more protein.
mattrag
Legend
I drink a lot of water, and soup. And if I have to I will just eat a meal of a whole head of cabbage.... Usually once or twice a week I get mean hunger pains and make a whole pot of fibrous veggies about 3 times a day and eat it between my 6 meals.
SweetLou321
Well-known member
All this dieting makes me happy im always bulking haha
stxnas
Well-known member
Turkey pepperoni sounds pretty damn good!
You just reminded me of something that I did in the past. I used to eat a lot of chopped lettuce just to get me to the next meal. I have been trying to take some extra veggies with me in the old lunch box.
Thanks for the tips, guys.
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
One other tip (Matt's reminded me), I haven't done it for a bit. Look up the recipe. Sacred Heart Soup. It's a zero cal soup pretty much that they have heart patients eat before heart surgery to lose weight. It has a ton of veggies in it and is very filling and you can eat til it is coming out of your ears.
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
I found it on myfitness pal, (the calorie count site I use) and I tried it and was shocked, has good flavor. It's like a hearty veggie stew.
mattrag
Legend
Even when I'm bulking... I'm hungry hahah!
SweetLou321
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Depends on the day for me. But if im hungry that just means I should eat more food lol
mattrag
Legend
Does it have an app? I use calorie counter for my daily calorie intake.
Is the app good?
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
yes, the iphone and droid apps rock. You can set your own macros, has bar code scanning and more. It also ha s place to enter your own recipes in and it puts them with the nutritional info. I also have most of AI sports supplements, and other company sups entered into the database as you can add things.
Several of us on the boards here have accounts on it, that I know. (Lexy, UNCNate, and myself (D2footballjrc) ) You can friend request those people and see each others diaries and so forth.
mattrag
Legend
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
I'll join!
Warning, I get all motivational on there
I boot camp those people trying to lose weight along with me. Ask Lexagon about it. ;-)
mattrag
Legend
Warning, I get all motivational on there
I'm bulking
When the cut begins I will be fired up because I'm running a competition log with FL3X for spring. I just got a good idea I need to PM him about.
D2footballjrc
Well-known member
I'm bulking
When the cut begins I will be fired up because I'm running a competition log with FL3X for spring. I just got a good idea I need to PM him about.
You can set MFP to bulk as well. Tell it how much weight you want to gain a week and etc.
mattrag
Legend
Onlychevy6
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stxnas said:
Mind over matter. Lmao
Onlychevy6
Well-known member
D2footballjrc said:
Nice job. And omg look at that stack. Good lord.
Onlychevy6
Well-known member
mattrag said:
It works pretty good I use it as well. I also use fitday.
Onlychevy6
Well-known member
D2footballjrc said:
That is a good idea. I will have to add y'all. Onlychevy6 is mine of course.
Onlychevy6
Well-known member
mattrag said:
You signed up in japan so your searches are probably based on yout location. I found you and sent a message. Change the location to us and type in the user name. Like mine or d2's
DreamWeaver
Legend
What I have been doing is using progression then when I change my routine I go back down to 60% load so it works like a deload each time I start a new progression.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Ah. Yea. That's a sound idea
This way you never really have to deload but it's part of the whole strategy... It's great when I want to go a long time without a break.
taman6886
Well-known member
I must admit that although the deload weeks, although tough on the ego, are a blessing to the joints. Your idea sounds pretty cool too DW.
2/10/12 Day 4, wk 4 (Deload)
4:50-5:45 (Started with 10 minute cardio warm up)
Today was more about working on my squat form, decreasing my forward lean and getting my depth.
Back Squat 170/215/260 x5's
Barefoot Squat -135 3setsx10 reps, 175 2 sets x10 reps.
Took some time to just squat down to a bench with no wait or just the bar, stretching the hip flexors etc. Pretty satisfied with the improvements. I think that for the next cycle I am gonna drop my training weight from 430 down to 360 and start squatting to a bench.
Lying Leg Curl 3x12 @55
Leg Extension 3x12 @ 120
Cable Crunch 3x15 @ 120
Finished up with 25 minutes on the bike, random hills for 155 cals, then hit the whirlpool.
Dietary for today:2317 cals, estimated burn of 3828, 234 grams of protein and 18g BCAA.
I have been doing 5/3/1 for almost a year now, thinking about moving on to something else for a bit, maybe GST, idk.
Anyways, Training maxes for MC 10 (starting next week) OH BB Press - 195, Deadlift - 425, Bench - 285, squat - 360 (rework on form AGAIN)
Onlychevy6
Well-known member
2/10/12
Well today was a little off. Was busy at work however I was able to get my water intake back up. Was a tad scatter brained just because there was a ton of things going on. To make matter worse. I get home change for the gym make my pre-workout drink and mistakenly added 3 scoops of Beast Mode instead of two. Wow was it a kick in the arse. Today's lifts was a little heavier than last week as well.
Leg Press
15 reps 540 lbs
15 reps 540 lbs
15 reps 540 lbs
Seated Calf Raises
20 reps 145 lbs
20 reps 145 lbs
20 reps 145 lbs
Roman Dead Lifts
15 reps 230 lbs
15 reps 230 lbs
15 reps 230 lbs
Hand to Toe Crunch
40 reps
40 reps
40 reps
Close Grip Bench Press
15 reps 190 lbs
15 reps 190 lbs
15 reps 190 lbs
DB Shoulder Press
15 reps 50 lbs
15 reps 50 lbs
15 reps 50 lbs
DB Rows
15 reps 60 lbs
15 reps 60 lbs
15 reps 60 lbs
Superman's
15 reps
15 reps
15 reps
Crunch's
30 reps
30 reps
30 reps
Finished It all up with 3 miles of treadmill. If all goes well tomorrow not only do I have some of underbrush to clear on my land I will try to get in a nice 5+ mile jog. We shall see about that though.
Well today was a little off. Was busy at work however I was able to get my water intake back up. Was a tad scatter brained just because there was a ton of things going on. To make matter worse. I get home change for the gym make my pre-workout drink and mistakenly added 3 scoops of Beast Mode instead of two. Wow was it a kick in the arse. Today's lifts was a little heavier than last week as well.
Leg Press
15 reps 540 lbs
15 reps 540 lbs
15 reps 540 lbs
Seated Calf Raises
20 reps 145 lbs
20 reps 145 lbs
20 reps 145 lbs
Roman Dead Lifts
15 reps 230 lbs
15 reps 230 lbs
15 reps 230 lbs
Hand to Toe Crunch
40 reps
40 reps
40 reps
Close Grip Bench Press
15 reps 190 lbs
15 reps 190 lbs
15 reps 190 lbs
DB Shoulder Press
15 reps 50 lbs
15 reps 50 lbs
15 reps 50 lbs
DB Rows
15 reps 60 lbs
15 reps 60 lbs
15 reps 60 lbs
Superman's
15 reps
15 reps
15 reps
Crunch's
30 reps
30 reps
30 reps
Finished It all up with 3 miles of treadmill. If all goes well tomorrow not only do I have some of underbrush to clear on my land I will try to get in a nice 5+ mile jog. We shall see about that though.
Onlychevy6
Well-known member
It shall be fun. It really does fit the guy life style pretty good.
Onlychevy6
Well-known member
Here are some old vs new measurements
September 17th 2011
Weight: 249.6
Neck: 17.75
Shoulder: 51.5
Chest: 48.75
Waist: 43
Abdomen: 49.0
Hips: 45
Thigh: 24.25
Knee: 16
Calf: 16.5
Ankle: 9.25
Arm: 16.5 non flexed 17.5 Flexed
Forearm: 12.25
Wrist: 7
2/11/12
Weight: 235
Neck: 17
Shoulder: 55
Chest: 47
Waist: 42
Abdomen: 46.5
Hips: 45
Thigh: 23.75
Knee: 15
Calf: 16.25
Ankle: 9.25
Arm: 15.25 non flexed 16.5 Flexed
Forearm: 11.5
Wrist: 7
A you can see there was some good change and some not so good change in my opinion. But it is what it is.
September 17th 2011
Weight: 249.6
Neck: 17.75
Shoulder: 51.5
Chest: 48.75
Waist: 43
Abdomen: 49.0
Hips: 45
Thigh: 24.25
Knee: 16
Calf: 16.5
Ankle: 9.25
Arm: 16.5 non flexed 17.5 Flexed
Forearm: 12.25
Wrist: 7
2/11/12
Weight: 235
Neck: 17
Shoulder: 55
Chest: 47
Waist: 42
Abdomen: 46.5
Hips: 45
Thigh: 23.75
Knee: 15
Calf: 16.25
Ankle: 9.25
Arm: 15.25 non flexed 16.5 Flexed
Forearm: 11.5
Wrist: 7
A you can see there was some good change and some not so good change in my opinion. But it is what it is.
taman6886
Well-known member
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Coming along man!
Started employing IF protocols for the diet today. Went pretty well so far, just a bit of a challenge to get 250+g of protein in over 8 hrs. Would be easier if I could eat steak daily . Broke today's fast at 12:00, ate 5 eggs scrambled, some wheat toast, colby cheese and a grapefruit and hit the iron. Think I am gonna like this.
Day 1, wk 1 (MC10)
1:30-2:30 (Started with 5 minute warm up and light RC work)
Oh BB Press 125x5, 145x5, 165x6 and a partial. (All reps with strict form, no push from hips, bar just above clavicle)
Went "Boring but Big" for the assist work 5 sets x10 reps at 60% (115). Coasted through first 4 sets thinking this is easy, has to really grind out those last 3 reps.
Upright Row 95-8/5, lightened up to 75lbs-12 reps.
Nautilus Lateral Delt Raise @160x15/12
Face Down rear delt raise @25's 15/14
Standing Alt DB Curl (went a little light on these, trying to heal my elbow some)
35x15, 40'sx12
EZ Curl @85 -12/12
Low Pulley Cable Curl Drop set at 130/85/60 (5/8/12 reps respectively)
Cardio got a bit broken up due to some calf cramping but we pieced together 41 minutes for 215 cals (includes that 5 minute warm up)
Diet for the rest of the day planned out, shutting it off at 8pm. 2694 cals in, estmated burn of 4169, 154 carbs, 222 protein and 18g bcaa.
Started employing IF protocols for the diet today. Went pretty well so far, just a bit of a challenge to get 250+g of protein in over 8 hrs. Would be easier if I could eat steak daily
. Broke today's fast at 12:00, ate 5 eggs scrambled, some wheat toast, colby cheese and a grapefruit and hit the iron. Think I am gonna like this.Day 1, wk 1 (MC10)
1:30-2:30 (Started with 5 minute warm up and light RC work)
Oh BB Press 125x5, 145x5, 165x6 and a partial. (All reps with strict form, no push from hips, bar just above clavicle)
Went "Boring but Big" for the assist work 5 sets x10 reps at 60% (115). Coasted through first 4 sets thinking this is easy, has to really grind out those last 3 reps.
Upright Row 95-8/5, lightened up to 75lbs-12 reps.
Nautilus Lateral Delt Raise @160x15/12
Face Down rear delt raise @25's 15/14
Standing Alt DB Curl (went a little light on these, trying to heal my elbow some)
35x15, 40'sx12
EZ Curl @85 -12/12
Low Pulley Cable Curl Drop set at 130/85/60 (5/8/12 reps respectively)
Cardio got a bit broken up due to some calf cramping but we pieced together 41 minutes for 215 cals (includes that 5 minute warm up)
Diet for the rest of the day planned out, shutting it off at 8pm. 2694 cals in, estmated burn of 4169, 154 carbs, 222 protein and 18g bcaa.
Onlychevy6
Well-known member
Nice start. Just make sure you have your heaviest meal after your workout. Then on your non training day have your heaviest meal first.